New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[paul7388]

Okay as stated on another thread.

People are chasing this game believing it can pay unlimited amounts and are going crazy trying to get a once in a lifetime hit.

I could be far wrong but in a simple google search the general consensus is that the slot has a max payout of 10000x stake. That is all. Nothing totally mind blowing. Tho i know someone hit a 14000x win . Maybe some casinos cap it at 10000x . Whatever the answer BTG really should be honest about it.

Okay bet at £1 a stake and its a great win. But nothing many slots cannot pay.

As i said i could be wrong but several casinos and review sites state the same. Here is the copy of info from one of many sites.

Jackpot: 10,000x your bet
RTP Payout Percentage: 96.00%
Paylines/Reels: 5 reels / 117,649 ways to win
Min/Max bet per spin: 20p – £500
Wild Symbols: Dynamite symbol
Free Spins: G, O, L, and D symbols
Bonus Games: No
Autoplay: Yes

Up to everyone if they still want to chase a 50000x stake win as according to google its impossible.

Yes i know we have heard its unlimited. But really does anyone actually believe a slot can be programmed and accepted by all the testers if noone knows exactly what it can pay. Most sites say it has a 10000x max. One person has hit 14000x at Leo Vegas who just happens to be the streamer mentioned all over BTGs home page and Leo Vegas just happen to be the casino that if you click slots on BTG page you get directed to and are advertised all over their site.

Sorry but i just find the whole idea of a slot that the makers will not even answer to the max payout and multiplier a bit fishy. No matter what they say it will have a max payout.

And anyway regardless of what the maximum x stake win you can get. The most important fact that shows the slot has a max win that noone seems to want to share is that every site out shows one thing. The slot has an RTP of 96%

If a slot genuinely has unlimited potential and the makers really have no idea exactly how high it can payout then they would not be able to obtain a RTP for the slot and would never be able to pass all the tests to get it through all the licencing needed.

So sorry but its time BTG just came clean and said exactly what the biggest times stake and win that is possble really is.

 

[chris87]

Latest experience from me on this slot-

Friday evening I decided to risk a couple of hundred £ and see what happened. It soon hoovered almost all of this up on small bets with no bonus, so I thought I'd up the ante to £4.00 spins and blow my last £40. Almost immediately I hit the feature. The first 6 spins were dead and it paid a total of 5x. In frustration I then decided to blow the rest on £5.00 bets. On my very last spin I hit the feature, it paid 605x..............

Chris

 

[Monnii]

Latest experience from me on this slot-

Friday evening I decided to risk a couple of hundred £ and see what happened. It soon hoovered almost all of this up on small bets with no bonus, so I thought I'd up the ante to £4.00 spins and blow my last £40. Almost immediately I hit the feature. The first 6 spins were dead and it paid a total of 5x. In frustration I then decided to blow the rest on £5.00 bets. On my very last spin I hit the feature, it paid 605x..............

Chris

That sounds so weird, so NOT random that a slot decides to give you two features so close together. Ive had times where ive lost 120€ on 0,20 bets and then hit the feature when ive had under 2€ left, ok so- it hasnt paid me anything those times but it's like to slot is saying that your close enough for a bust to give the feature, because if it wouldnt some probably might not redeposit and think the feature is unabtainable.

 

[interlog]

Okay as stated on another thread.

People are chasing this game believing it can pay unlimited amounts and are going crazy trying to get a once in a lifetime hit.

I could be far wrong but in a simple google search the general consensus is that the slot has a max payout of 10000x stake. That is all. Nothing totally mind blowing. Tho i know someone hit a 14000x win . Maybe some casinos cap it at 10000x . Whatever the answer BTG really should be honest about it.

Okay bet at £1 a stake and its a great win. But nothing many slots cannot pay.

As i said i could be wrong but several casinos and review sites state the same. Here is the copy of info from one of many sites.

Jackpot: 10,000x your bet
RTP Payout Percentage: 96.00%
Paylines/Reels: 5 reels / 117,649 ways to win
Min/Max bet per spin: 20p – £500
Wild Symbols: Dynamite symbol
Free Spins: G, O, L, and D symbols
Bonus Games: No
Autoplay: Yes

Up to everyone if they still want to chase a 50000x stake win as according to google its impossible.

Yes i know we have heard its unlimited. But really does anyone actually believe a slot can be programmed and accepted by all the testers if noone knows exactly what it can pay. Most sites say it has a 10000x max. One person has hit 14000x at Leo Vegas who just happens to be the streamer mentioned all over BTGs home page and Leo Vegas just happen to be the casino that if you click slots on BTG page you get directed to and are advertised all over their site.

Sorry but i just find the whole idea of a slot that the makers will not even answer to the max payout and multiplier a bit fishy. No matter what they say it will have a max payout.

And anyway regardless of what the maximum x stake win you can get. The most important fact that shows the slot has a max win that noone seems to want to share is that every site out shows one thing. The slot has an RTP of 96%

If a slot genuinely has unlimited potential and the makers really have no idea exactly how high it can payout then they would not be able to obtain a RTP for the slot and would never be able to pass all the tests to get it through all the licencing needed.

So sorry but its time BTG just came clean and said exactly what the biggest times stake and win that is possble really is.

Slight correction to your post as it wasn't the streamer that had the 14000x win. It was one of his viewers that had it and the streamer managed to get the bonus replay and showed that on stream

 

[lockinlove]

I wouldnt expect BTG to come clean about anything really but all it takes is someone with a little common sense to realize that it is not uncapped.

There must have been billions of spins on this thing so far and from all the forums, youtubes, screenshots, twitch channels nobody has posted anything over the top crazy crazy. Even BTG has admitted The 14,000x is the best so far. Its pretty wild but its no where near uncapped winnings.

At what point do you call it probable? Just because you have the odds of 1 in 3.5 billion chances in hitting whatever uncapped means to you, doesnt mean its going to happen. Its just misleading imo which I think is unnecessary because the slot is already a hit.


I also dont think that people pound on this slot because they are chasing the once in a lifetime hit. I mean, atleast I didnt anyways. Sure it would be nice but I played it alot because I really enjoyed the slot and knew there was some potential. But I would be happy with a 1000x. Pounding away on something where the odds are easily in the millions-1 is just not very smart.

 

[nutnut]

with all due respect Paul you're making assumptions of people that don't exist. No one has been chasing those once in life time wins as lockinlove stated.

certainly not myself.

i also agree how often it gives bonus is when you're about to bust out.

 

[brianmon]

Slight correction to your post as it wasn't the streamer that had the 14000x win. It was one of his viewers that had it and the streamer managed to get the bonus replay and showed that on stream

Considering that BTG fake screenshot incident, the less than innocent reputation of that streamer plus his connections with LéoVegas and BTG...

I'll bet that 'viewer' was someone one from BTG.

 

[Mouche12]

Usually slots state the absolute maximum obtainable (MG games), but I suppose it will remain a mystery for Bonanza. And yeah, it's like playing the Euro Lottery where you can win millions upon millions with the odds being 1 in billions upon billions.

 

[lockinlove]

Usually slots state the absolute maximum obtainable (MG games), but I suppose it will remain a mystery for Bonanza. And yeah, it's like playing the Euro Lottery where you can win millions upon millions with the odds being 1 in billions upon billions.

If you show an uniformed player hey you can win $555,555.000 the player thinks oh wow maybe I can deposit $40 and bet 30 cents and win that prize. Which we all know is not the case. You need to be max betting the slot and then hit the max win which is pretty flippin unlikely. So I think it falls under false advertising or at the very least misleading.

I think BTG should take down the uncapped claim to be honest

 

[paul7388]

with all due respect Paul you're making assumptions of people that don't exist. No one has been chasing those once in life time wins as lockinlove stated.

certainly not myself.

i also agree how often it gives bonus is when you're about to bust out.

With all due respect.

I never said yourself or lockinlove were.

But there are people that are playing the slot because they believe that because they think the payouts are unlimited they may get a huge win that is not possible on any other slot.

Theres even people on this forum talking about possibilities of full screens of diamonds on huge multipliers and how its possible as the winnings are uncapped.

If thats not people chasing a dream hit what is.

 

[interlog]

Considering that BTG fake screenshot incident, the less than innocent reputation of that streamer plus his connections with LéoVegas and BTG...

I'll bet that 'viewer' was someone one from BTG.

Not sure I can agree with you there.

It went something like this

A long established viewer of the streams made a comment in chat that he hit a 14,000x win on Bonanza. The streamer and chat asked for a screen shot but the viewer responded that he didn't take one. The question was asked what casino and what date and the streamer was going to attempt to contact the casino and BTG to see if he could get a replay of the bonus. That took quite some weeks to get. It was then played on one of the streams.

Seems genuine enough to me.

 

[paul7388]

Usually slots state the absolute maximum obtainable (MG games), but I suppose it will remain a mystery for Bonanza. And yeah, it's like playing the Euro Lottery where you can win millions upon millions with the odds being 1 in billions upon billions.

Thats what really pisses me of about BTG.

Any other provider will give information about slots and max wins.

Go to BTG homepage.

Lists the slots. Click on any slot and you get no info at all it automatically takes you to the game on LeoVegas.

In fact you should really read how bad their homepage is. It seems more interested in LeoVegas and a streamer than giving any info on its own slots.

 

[chris87]

i also agree how often it gives bonus is when you're about to bust out.

Yes, as in my experience on Friday night. Naturally, ever since my win the slot has been ice cold at every casino. I'm not hammering it though as every time this is the case after a half decent win. It was particularly noticeable after the only 2 other big wins I had on IR and Terminator 2.

Chris

 

[lockinlove]

Thats what really pisses me of about BTG.

Any other provider will give information about slots and max wins.

Go to BTG homepage.

Lists the slots. Click on any slot and you get no info at all it automatically takes you to the game on LeoVegas.

In fact you should really read how bad their homepage is. It seems more interested in LeoVegas and a streamer than giving any info on its own slots.

Thats pretty pathetic.

I saw in his stream that he is now offering some sort of sign up deal with leovegas where the people get 40 freespins on bonanza.

You are telling me there is a chance to hit a monster on this slot and they just are giving freespins away on it in large amounts like nothing.

Seems very fishy to me they are intertwined with leovegas and this streamer so heavily and are offering freespins like that. Like come on here, you click on the games on their site and it does take you directly to leovegas. Whats up with that? Is there maybe an affiliate code on their own product?

lol just shows what kind of company BTG is. I knew we should never have trusted them after the fake screenshot scandal.

Ever notice that any time BTG has a new game, that leovegas gets it for like a month before anyone?

 

[Tirilej]

Thats pretty pathetic.

I saw in his stream that he is now offering some sort of sign up deal with leovegas where the people get 40 freespins on bonanza.

You are telling me there is a chance to hit a monster on this slot and they just are giving freespins away on it in large amounts like nothing.

Seems very fishy to me they are intertwined with leovegas and this streamer so heavily and are offering freespins like that. Like come on here, you click on the games on their site and it does take you directly to leovegas. Whats up with that? Is there maybe an affiliate code on their own product?

lol just shows what kind of company BTG is. I knew we should never have trusted them after the fake screenshot scandal.

Ever notice that any time BTG has a new game, that leovegas gets it for like a month before anyone?

That's simply a good way of marketing and I see no fishy with that. It's often a special casino gets the games before others. It's business.

It's LeoVegas who are offering the spins to their customers.
It's LeoVegas that are having a deal with the streamer.

 

[DreamRJ]

Or here is my 2cents.

Maybe LeoVegas or partners in leovegas also own or are partners in BTG. that would explain the close relationship with them anyway.

I haven't done any research on who owns Leovegas and BTG to see if there is any names that are the same. But maybe there might be one person who has ties in both.

Or even better still, maybe LeoVegas funded the creation of BTG, not even sure when BTG was founded or when the first slot was made, but maybe another good sign would be if the time LeoVegas and BTG was founded was similar or in the same year, then that might also be an indicator. It is not the first time a casino makes their own slots and it certainly wouldn't be the last. 3dice comes to mind.

Or all i said could be totally wrong.

EDIT: It appears that the 3 names listed on BTG and the management team of LeoVegas do not have any names that are the same. So my above statement does indeed seem to be partially wrong.
But that still doesnt mean that LeoVegas didn't fund BTG though, they could have bought shares and stayed anonymous. It happens in businesses.

Who Knows.

 

[lockinlove]

That's simply a good way of marketing and I see no fishy with that. It's often a special casino gets the games before others. It's business.

It's LeoVegas who are offering the spins to their customers.
It's LeoVegas that are having a deal with the streamer.

Maybe good business for them but I dont like to see favortism by a software provider. I like to see them remain neutral. Same would be said if you went to netent and all their slot logos redirect you to videoslots. I would not like it at all. And given their shady history where even Bryan stated to be weary of their product, I dont like it. I wasnt saying that them having the slot first for a month is really a big deal, I think you add it all together and I just dont like it.

I also disagree its the casino that offers the deals. Im sure a deal is cut between the three in regards to the spins being offered and other deals. Its a link that channels down. I know this from experience when doing my challenge that the casino, the player and software provider come to a deal together

 

[interlog]

Thats pretty pathetic.

I saw in his stream that he is now offering some sort of sign up deal with leovegas where the people get 40 freespins on bonanza.

You are telling me there is a chance to hit a monster on this slot and they just are giving freespins away on it in large amounts like nothing.

Seems very fishy to me they are intertwined with leovegas and this streamer so heavily and are offering freespins like that. Like come on here, you click on the games on their site and it does take you directly to leovegas. Whats up with that? Is there maybe an affiliate code on their own product?

lol just shows what kind of company BTG is. I knew we should never have trusted them after the fake screenshot scandal.

Ever notice that any time BTG has a new game, that leovegas gets it for like a month before anyone?

I think that credit of 40 free spins on Bonanza was a one off when you placed a minimum bet of euro10 on the result of 500 spins that he did the other day. I think it was a promotion by Leo Vegas endorsed by Big Time Gaming who see it as a way to attract attention to their slot offerings. All three parties (the streamer, Leo Vegas and BTG) of course potentially gain from this kind of promotion but hey, that is business for you.

 

[nikantw]

I agree with the argument that there should be enforced more transparency about a slots potential (info about max win and possibilities of that happening). But this is not in the rules of UKGC, MGA and most others so far, hopefully soon. So there is nothing illegal or unethical about what slot providers do, try to make us think it is easy to win big. They all do it.

We just need to make it a habit to learn a bit about a slot before we really bet on it. Know your slot, manage your expectations.

Just a few things that come to mind from latest posts:

It is properly licensed, it says it’s unlimited, it is unlimited. No question about it.

Something can happen doesn’t mean it will happen, not in 10, 100, or 1000 years. But it is perfectly ok to say it can happen. Hopefully soon they will also be forced to add the probability of that happening.

"Keep an open mind. But not so open that it will fall on the floor". You see a forum member get 39x multiplier, you see 4 diamonds stacked on a reel in free spins, then you can be 100% sure a combination of all in one spin is possible. Maybe once every 1000 years, but it is.

There are members here that have knowledge, experience and desire to share with us. Listen to them. They help get a good feeling about a slot. Early on we knew bonus hit rate is 1/450, that means it can go for 1000s without a bonus. We know this early on. Some casinos cap winnings, that means bigger than 10,000x hits are extremely rare. It also has very good base game, that means 1000x wins are very rare. We know all this early on.

Player can win 10 million from fs offer, doesn't matter, a 100 cap on cashout takes care of that.

Know all this, manage your expectations, that is the key.

 

[interlog]

It is all about expectations. At least with slots that have it displayed "win up to xxxxx coins" you know the max potential. You know the max potential when you open up Mega Moolah and see the jackpot amounts.

With this slot there is none, irrespective of going through the argument what it takes to get that maximum potential win.

 

[nutnut]

Had some free bonus so used it on this.

All gone within mnutes....

 

[hockeyninja]

Hi all,
Just wondering where I can play this game as a Canadian? I have closed my account at Videoslots and was wondering if there are any other CAD friendly sites that offer BTG games.

 

[Monnii]

Okay, so 1700 spins, countless GOL GOL GOL and down from 100€ closing on zero, and ofcourse.. completely "RANDOMLY" it does this:

This slot is a fucking disgrace. I mean, ive said it before and ill say it again, it gives you the feature- a shit one might i add in order for you to have had it and re deposit. Fucking bullshit, oh and yeah it was less than 20x.

Edit: cant see the image, but if i uploaded the right pic it should show that i had 0,80€ euro left with 0,40€ bet when finally getting GOLD

 

[lockinlove]

Hi all,
Just wondering where I can play this game as a Canadian? I have closed my account at Videoslots and was wondering if there are any other CAD friendly sites that offer BTG games.

I think the music is just starting to get out of my head for not playing it like crazy anymore. It was funny though, the other day I was driving and some texan restaurant ad came on the radio and the music sounded like bonanza and went yeeehawwww. I never changed a radio station so fast in my life

 

[goatwack]

I think the music is just starting to get out of my head for not playing it like crazy anymore. It was funny though, the other day I was driving and some texan restaurant ad came on the radio and the music sounded like bonanza and went yeeehawwww. I never changed a radio station so fast in my life

Good to see you still knocking about

And even better that you've got rid of that abomination of a slot

 

[dunover]

I've got a good one to upload tomorrow, but last night I had a 20 in my a/c at Midaur, so thought I would play the bastard at 40p. In about 8 or 9 spins feature dropped straight in and gave me 1.44 in cascade wins before it began. So on to the feature:

12 Spins:

1-fuck all
2-fuck-all
3-fuck-all
4-fuck-all
5-fuck-all
6-20p (now on a whopping 2x multiplier!)
7-fuck all
8-fuck-all
9-fuck-all
10-fuck-all
11-44p (now on a monstrous 3x multiplier!)
12-fuck-all


Total: Pre trigger 1.44, FS 64p result £2.08

So 64p, or 1.51 x stake for 12 bastard spins.

Now I hold the filth record for TFTUT 4-scatter trigger at 0.45x bet, a world record until proven otherwise.
Surely this is the filth record for Borenanza?? Or don't tell me, somebody claims to have had 12 dead spins for zero?

 

[lockinlove]

I've got a good one to upload tomorrow, but last night I had a 20 in my a/c at Midaur, so thought I would play the bastard at 40p. In about 8 or 9 spins feature dropped straight in and gave me 1.44 in cascade wins before it began. So on to the feature:

12 Spins:

1-fuck all
2-fuck-all
3-fuck-all
4-fuck-all
5-fuck-all
6-20p (now on a whopping 2x multiplier!)
7-fuck all
8-fuck-all
9-fuck-all
10-fuck-all
11-44p (now on a monstrous 3x multiplier!)
12-fuck-all


Total: Pre trigger 1.44, FS 64p result £2.08

So 64p, or 1.51 x stake for 12 bastard spins.

Now I hold the filth record for TFTUT 4-scatter trigger at 0.45x bet, a world record until proven otherwise.
Surely this is the filth record for Borenanza?? Or don't tell me, somebody claims to have had 12 dead spins for zero?

Got me beat

 

[Tirilej]

I rather not focus on the bad play. Today I went in with just $4 and got this in normal play. Not so bad

 

[interlog]

I've got a good one to upload tomorrow, but last night I had a 20 in my a/c at Midaur, so thought I would play the bastard at 40p. In about 8 or 9 spins feature dropped straight in and gave me 1.44 in cascade wins before it began. So on to the feature:

12 Spins:

1-fuck all
2-fuck-all
3-fuck-all
4-fuck-all
5-fuck-all
6-20p (now on a whopping 2x multiplier!)
7-fuck all
8-fuck-all
9-fuck-all
10-fuck-all
11-44p (now on a monstrous 3x multiplier!)
12-fuck-all


Total: Pre trigger 1.44, FS 64p result £2.08

So 64p, or 1.51 x stake for 12 bastard spins.

Now I hold the filth record for TFTUT 4-scatter trigger at 0.45x bet, a world record until proven otherwise.
Surely this is the filth record for Borenanza?? Or don't tell me, somebody claims to have had 12 dead spins for zero?

Yep, I had - https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/bonanza-by-big-time-gaming.76428/

 

[dunover]

Yep, I had - https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/bonanza-by-big-time-gaming.76428/

Fair enough. An unwelcome filth record I've avoided....

 

[interlog]

Fair enough. An unwelcome filth record I've avoided....

It is beatable though - zero paying trigger plus a zero paying bonus round.

 

[dbl88]

What a freaking joke.? Almost my second ever 0.00 Pay . 2.50 i rather have 0

 

[interlog]

Question for the BTG rep: are the reel sets in the bonus different to the one in the base game? We all know that the top moving "reel" has carts rather than wilds. Do these carts substitute the wilds and all of the rest is the same?

 

[nikantw]

Trancemonkey, insists Bonanza is rigged. Not his words, it is what I get out of it, let me explain.

His exact words are that there is no legal obligation for a slot to say what it can pay, or even pay what each reel drops from time to time. It is perfectly legal to have 6 diamonds drop regularly on reel 1, and 6 diamonds drop regularly on reels 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 together (6x5 = 30 diamonds but no pay since no diamond on reel 1), and have it programmed to never drop 6 diamonds on all 6 reels at the same spin. It is perfectly legal to do that, especially if you say your math model is not based on reels. It doesn’t matter if reels appear on screen, only if the math model is based on reels. For example it would be perfectly legal if only one wildline was ever possible in DoA.

Based on that, he is very skeptical about Bonanzas true potential. Believes that we may see many diamonds stacked on all reels, but is perfectly legal for BTG (and believes they probably have) to cap the available diamond ways to 20 or something like that.

For me that means rigged. May be legal, not sure, but if true in my book it means rigged. If any other slot with reels does that it is also rigged. And I mean screen reels, not "math reels". If symbols drop one after the other in line, it is a reel. Fruit Wrap - no reels, Gonzo - reels, Birds in a Wire - reels. Bonanza - reels, no question about that.

Again, not an expert in legislation, but if all slots can be so rigged (explained what I mean, personally I don’t think anyone does that), then it is time for UKGC, MGA and others to force games to state exactly what they can pay and the possibility for such a win. MG already says the max win, well done MG.

 

[Tengil]

Question for the BTG rep: are the reel sets in the bonus different to the one in the base game? We all know that the top moving "reel" has carts rather than wilds. Do these carts substitute the wilds and all of the rest is the same?

Of course they are different. The top reel as you said is different as is the "bottom" one as there's no G O L D symbols.

 

[interlog]

Of course they are different. The top reel as you said is different as is the "bottom" one as there's no G O L D symbols.

Maybe I phrased it wrongly.... other than the top reels and lack of scatters, are they the same?

No answer from the rep though...... a little like that t-shirt that I won. I know it is coming all the way from Australia but I haven't seen it as yet

 

[Harry_BKK]

Maybe I phrased it wrongly.... other than the top reels and lack of scatters, are they the same?

No answer from the rep though...... a little like that t-shirt that I won. I know it is coming all the way from Australia but I haven't seen it as yet

The reels might be the same, which I doubt, but what surely is different is the amount of pay lines in each spin. Have you seen once the full pay lines in the Free Spins? The most I have seen is 41,000 something.

Secondly, the front 3 reels, seem to be mostly 2 - 4 tiles, rarely 5 - 7.

 

[Monnii]

The reels might be the same, which I doubt, but what surely is different is the amount of pay lines in each spin. Have you seen once the full pay lines in the Free Spins? The most I have seen is 41,000 something.

Secondly, the front 3 reels, seem to be mostly 2 - 4 tiles, rarely 5 - 7.

That is very true, usually you have to "survive" meaning just make a connection on reel 1 and 2 in order to get a good spin. You dont see that in the basegame, giving 1 ways of 3 oaks of nines like 50% of the spins that are NOT deadspins.

 

[danchop]

Question for the BTG rep: are the reel sets in the bonus different to the one in the base game? We all know that the top moving "reel" has carts rather than wilds. Do these carts substitute the wilds and all of the rest is the same?

There are wilds in the bonus round,unless ive read your question wrong?

 

[sueyh]

His exact words are that there is no legal obligation for a slot to say what it can pay, or even pay what each reel drops from time to time. It is perfectly legal to have 6 diamonds drop regularly on reel 1, and 6 diamonds drop regularly on reels 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 together (6x5 = 30 diamonds but no pay since no diamond on reel 1), and have it programmed to never drop 6 diamonds on all 6 reels at the same spin. It is perfectly legal to do that, especially if you say your math model is not based on reels. It doesn’t matter if reels appear on screen, only if the math model is based on reels. For example it would be perfectly legal if only one wildline was ever possible in DoA.

I had diamonds all 6 reels, 16 ways on base game, it paid 800x bet size, if it happened during free spin with a couple of diamonds more it could been really huge win, though not sure that one million times bet size win can be really possible. But hope it is true...it will be cool to win one million times bet size win.

 

[Monnii]

Quite clearly, i dont know how it can be allowed to not have to state the max win. Even if the freespins were unlimited with unlimited multiplier as has been told that cannot be confirmed as it could "THEORETICALLY" could go on for ever. Well, each to their own to then figure what is realistical but they should ATLEAST answer what the individual spins maximum win is (without any multipliers in affect) is it then the 2x3x3x3x4x5 diamonds or is it something else entirely?

You wouldnt buy a house without inspecting it but people have collectively spent ALOT more than that on a slot that we dont even get to know how it pays?

 

[Harry_BKK]

Quite clearly, i dont know how it can be allowed to not have to state the max win. Even if the freespins were unlimited with unlimited multiplier as has been told that cannot be confirmed as it could "THEORETICALLY" could go on for ever. Well, each to their own to then figure what is realistical but they should ATLEAST answer what the individual spins maximum win is (without any multipliers in affect) is it then the 2x3x3x3x4x5 diamonds or is it something else entirely?

You wouldnt buy a house without inspecting it but people have collectively spent ALOT more than that on a slot that we dont even get to know how it pays?

Only the last reel has a full row of 7 diamonds. Never seen it on any other reel, max is 2 + 1 in the top cart. Hence, from that I assume the max diamonds are 2 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 7 = 1,134x 6OAK @ 50x bet = 56,700x bet as max pay in the base game.

Considering though the complexity of this slot and virtually endless amount of combinations, I would also assume that the chance to hit that in the base game to be somewhere in the 1 : XX Billions and 1 : XXX Billions in the Free Spins as the reels change during the bonus round.

 

[nikantw]

Quite clearly, i dont know how it can be allowed to not have to state the max win. Even if the freespins were unlimited with unlimited multiplier as has been told that cannot be confirmed as it could "THEORETICALLY" could go on for ever. Well, each to their own to then figure what is realistical but they should ATLEAST answer what the individual spins maximum win is (without any multipliers in affect) is it then the 2x3x3x3x4x5 diamonds or is it something else entirely?

You wouldnt buy a house without inspecting it but people have collectively spent ALOT more than that on a slot that we dont even get to know how it pays?

Yes, but as I said, we can be pretty sure about 3 things about Bonanza:
1. Good base game.
2. Over 13,000x potential
3. Over 13,000x odds are super small, like winning the Mega Moolah jackpot small.

The last one we know from the max bet size and the legal requirements for the 250k cap some casinos have on winnings.

Of course all games must be forced to tell. Otherwise only CM members will have this essential information.

 

[Monnii]

Only the last reel has a full row of 7 diamonds. Never seen it on any other reel, max is 2 + 1 in the top cart. Hence, from that I assume the max diamonds are 2 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 7 = 1,134x 6OAK @ 50x bet = 56,700x bet as max pay in the base game.

Considering though the complexity of this slot and virtually endless amount of combinations, I would also assume that the chance to hit that in the base game to be somewhere in the 1 : XX Billions and 1 : XXX Billions in the Free Spins as the reels change during the bonus round.

But if i understood correctly what trancemonkey wrote earlier (in the other thread IIRC) the provider is allowed to show reel positions on losing spins (not connecting) That cannot be achieved together. So the game could legally speaking allow it to show 3x3x3x4x7 without ever having the possibility hit a diamond on reel 1. And if that is the case then I think it's kind of morally upsetting, even though legal. But as BTG have not cleared this were left to just wonder.

Also my estimate of the max win would be ( including drops and from what ive seen on reels/carts.)
Reel 1: 3 (2 drops) =3
Reel 2: 2 (+1 cart) =3 (2 in scenario)
Reel 3: 2 (+1 cart) =3
Reel 4: 3 (+1 cart) =4
Reel 5: 3 (+1 cart) =4
Reel 6: 5 ((only seen five, but if youve seen seven then lets go with that one)
Now, dont know which is better, having reel two empty at start and a cart displaying a K for example which then blows up. And having one diamond +1 cart on Reel 2 land.
Then that would make it 3x2x3x4x4x7=2016 ways of diamond at 50x a piece would then be 100,800x bet.
Then if it were possible for reel 2 to drop in 2 diamonds in one spin that number would be 3024 ways for 151,200x.
And we have now atleast seen 39x multiplier in freespins so that would then total 5,896,800x bet win.
Playing for say 5€ a spin that would total to 29,484,000€ win from that spins.
So that would probably be enough to bankrupt most casinos if they would not have a max win cap.
Now okay, this is in the billions, but i think the slot doesnt even allow you to hit these reelstrips together. So it's yet unknown what we could expect as a max win.

Sorry for the long post lol, got really into it

 

[Monnii]

Yes, but as I said, we can be pretty sure about 3 things about Bonanza:
1. Good base game.
2. Over 13,000x potential
3. Over 13,000x odds are super small, like winning the Mega Moolah jackpot small.

The last one we know from the max bet size and the legal requirements for the 250k cap some casinos have on winnings.

Of course all games must be forced to tell. Otherwise only CM members will have this essential information.

But isnt that 250k wincap basically that no matter what you win ( like in my example playing 5€ spins - 29 million euro, the wincap would then just make it that max exceeded and then have it pay out 250k? Or is it like that the max vombination of symbols have to display a win that is 250k?

With that "unlimited multiplier" being marketed, good that were not being marketed that "WIN UP TO INFINITY TIMES YOUR MONEY"

 

[nikantw]

But isnt that 250k wincap basically that no matter what you win ( like in my example playing 5€ spins - 29 million euro, the wincap would then just make it that max exceeded and then have it pay out 250k? Or is it like that the max vombination of symbols have to display a win that is 250k?

Cap works like this: You win 1,250,000, casino takes 1,000,000 and you take 250,000
For that to be legal, the 1,000,000 must not change the TRTP ---> super small chance for any win over 13,000x

 

[Monnii]

Cap works like this: You win 1,250,000, casino takes 1,000,000 and you take 250,000
For that to be legal, the 1,000,000 must not change the TRTP ---> super small chance for any win over 13,000x

Yeah i figured that it would just cut the amount over, thanks

 

[b3b44]

Geez this slot is Tilting AF

 

[Monnii]

Nightmare of a weekend. Once again the true coldstreak is on. Not that ive had wins in between but now it's just painful

2500 spins in without seeing the D.
Way over 50 times had GOL..
Weirdly enough no D ever when getting GOL
but had twice GOL drop from nothing.
10+ times had OL drop in.
And god knows how many times getting the L in.

Garvage piece of shit gaaahh.. and you just know it will be a 5x when you get it.

 

[nutnut]