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I tried 40 cent bet today and it was playing great. Like 170% rtp. I raised it to $2 and my rtp went right to about 22% and I lost $140 in about 7 minutes. I will never do $2 bets on this thing again.

its the same old crap with all the providers lockinlove , for some reason i know providers are still standing by this bet amount does not play any part in their random spins or outcomes, but sadly i do not & will never agree with that fact , the reason being these machines are set to pay out whatever design its set at period ( although we now know this can be changed )

you cannot build a slot for 96% unless somewhere somehow this machine adjusts the play & knows all the info for this bets etc etc even over 40 million spins etc etc , i doubt any provider could ever give me a losing slot machine period. that server knows & this is a fact , or they would not have any online players , you have to win at some point or no casinos would be here , forget about the super high rollers we are led to believe i bet this makes less than 2% of the whole market )

Clearly bets make a huge difference in play ( this isnt about bank roll either ), i can play low stakes & go for sodding days playing slots hitting 100x bets so often you would not believe but its 20p bets thats why , soon as you start playing £2 onwards , try getting lots of 100x bets , your be bust before you know it.
 
its the same old crap with all the providers lockinlove , for some reason i know providers are still standing by this bet amount does not play any part in their random spins or outcomes, but sadly i do not & will never agree with that fact , the reason being these machines are set to pay out whatever design its set at period ( although we now know this can be changed )

you cannot build a slot for 96% unless somewhere somehow this machine adjusts the play & knows all the info for this bets etc etc even over 40 million spins etc etc , i doubt any provider could ever give me a losing slot machine period. that server knows & this is a fact , or they would not have any online players , you have to win at some point or no casinos would be here , forget about the super high rollers we are led to believe i bet this makes less than 2% of the whole market )

Clearly bets make a huge difference in play ( this isnt about bank roll either ), i can play low stakes & go for sodding days playing slots hitting 100x bets so often you would not believe but its 20p bets thats why , soon as you start playing £2 onwards , try getting lots of 100x bets , your be bust before you know it.

I dont mind losing 140 on $2 bets. heck even $500. Its bigger bets and it can happen. But the way it happens on this bloody slot is what pisses me off! It goes from banging around paying out a bit. To instantly icecold once my bet was raised.

It actually put me on huge tilt. I deposited $200 and worked it up to $440. I started on bonanza and went down to around $300 from the $2 bets. I was steaming so I played 3 slots at once bonanaza, buffalo blitz and dragon born. I lost another $220 in about 15 mins doing that lol. I won About $600 on FL last night and was ready to cashout total $800 profit between the two sites. But because of my tilt I cashed out $450 profit. I had to stop myself though. I actually cashed out $80 remainng on VS so took $120 loss. but I cashed out profit on the other site so I still did well.

I never would cash out $80 before. Id just piss it away trying to hit but I was so pissed I was like you arent taking it all bonanza you rotten dirt bag slot! :D:o

Im thinking of doing .40 bets going forward. I dont usually like betting that small but above that surely isnt working out. So lets do the next 500,000 spins on that. lol
 
Just had my best ever start to a feature. I was up to x7 after the first spin. It then preceded to give me a dead spin for every single one of the next 11 spins. What an utter piece of shite this slot is. I'm really starting to wish i'd never played it and the thing is i can't stop playing until i get a decent win which will probably be never! Do one BGT :mad: At least slots like Dead or Alive pay, one win over 350x stake in over 200,000 spins. CRAP
 
its the same old crap with all the providers lockinlove , for some reason i know providers are still standing by this bet amount does not play any part in their random spins or outcomes, but sadly i do not & will never agree with that fact , the reason being these machines are set to pay out whatever design its set at period ( although we now know this can be changed )


I have respectfully to say that it isn't the case. Our games and all the providers' ones I know well (who aren't all of them, of course) aren't designed to pay their theorical RTP at a period of time, they have just a set of reels formed each one by a set of symbols that, in conjuction with the paytable, determine which theorical RPT the game has. Over a period of time, the actual RTP depends on the number of spins played (the higher the closer to the theorical RTP it will tend to be), the volatiliy of the slot (most volatile ones tend to have a higher difference, in a positive or negative way, from the theorical RTP) and randomness.

you cannot build a slot for 96% unless somewhere somehow this machine adjusts the play & knows all the info for this bets etc etc even over 40 million spins etc etc , i doubt any provider could ever give me a losing slot machine period. that server knows & this is a fact , or they would not have any online players , you have to win at some point or no casinos would be here , forget about the super high rollers we are led to believe i bet this makes less than 2% of the whole market )

You can build a slot for a theorical 96%, but that's just in the long term. In the short term you can have sessions with very different RTPs.

Clearly bets make a huge difference in play ( this isnt about bank roll either ), i can play low stakes & go for sodding days playing slots hitting 100x bets so often you would not believe but its 20p bets thats why , soon as you start playing £2 onwards , try getting lots of 100x bets , your be bust before you know it.

At the end of the day, even if the provider wanted to do it, if you work in reputable juridisctions, you can't do this. Gambling comissions like the UK or Spain's one require the providers to certify each of their games with approved testing houses. Testing houses make a number of different tests to the games, and one of them is aimed to verify that every play outcome is truly random and not influenced by previous results. If the game has different paytables for every bet level it has to be clearly stated in the rules section so the player knows it undoubtly, otherwise bet level will not influence the outcome.

Best regards.
 
More foil hat theories triggered today by this "lovely" creation :rolleyes:

Features flowing in, think I had 4 in under 200 spins :eek:

All crap but the "aliens exist" part was set off by the way it was triggering.

Just the "G" showing with a few ways of small letter wins, these exploded and the "O, L and D" dropped all at once, happened 3 times, something I've never seen in MILLIONS of spins :confused:

Guess 99/100ths of the staff at BTG spend their working day playing with the coding of this slot ;)
 
I have respectfully to say that it isn't the case. Our games and all the providers' ones I know well (who aren't all of them, of course) aren't designed to pay their theorical RTP at a period of time, they have just a set of reels formed each one by a set of symbols that, in conjuction with the paytable, determine which theorical RPT the game has. Over a period of time, the actual RTP depends on the number of spins played (the higher the closer to the theorical RTP it will tend to be), the volatiliy of the slot (most volatile ones tend to have a higher difference, in a positive or negative way, from the theorical RTP) and randomness.



You can build a slot for a theorical 96%, but that's just in the long term. In the short term you can have sessions with very different RTPs.



At the end of the day, even if the provider wanted to do it, if you work in reputable juridisctions, you can't do this. Gambling comissions like the UK or Spain's one require the providers to certify each of their games with approved testing houses. Testing houses make a number of different tests to the games, and one of them is aimed to verify that every play outcome is truly random and not influenced by previous results. If the game has different paytables for every bet level it has to be clearly stated in the rules section so the player knows it undoubtly, otherwise bet level will not influence the outcome.

Best regards.

cheers for that i shall PM you as i dont want to derail the thread )
 
I feel like when they dont want to give a certain IP adress a bonus, they wont no matter what. I did about 600 spins on VS. No bonus.

900 spins on betsson no bonus

1200 play money and no bonus

They are tracking my IP to drive me crazy I know.

Im taking a break for a few days from this. Maybe even a week. :eek:
 
I feel like when they dont want to give a certain IP adress a bonus, they wont no matter what. I did about 600 spins on VS. No bonus.

900 spins on betsson no bonus

1200 play money and no bonus

They are tracking my IP to drive me crazy I know.

Im taking a break for a few days from this. Maybe even a week. :eek:


Got to admit it's still the best and most exciting slot to exist.

Sadly my massive win was robbed by a shit bonus max conversion, I will keep chasing a win like that and it will never come but I still enoy the game.
 
My stats for the last 3 weeks, I haven't got the bonus round since early last week either after hundreds of dollars spent grrr...

Anyway I am not good with gambling figures so is this average or ?

Spins 9203
RTP 82.47 %

That is pretty awful. I posted my stats some months ago and my RTP sat over 90% with a similar number of spins.
 
The bonusgame is great but the music and sound effects are really horrible. Had to mute the sound, otherwise I would become crazy.
 
That's what I was thinking cause can't win a thing, just lost another $300 on .60-.80 cent spins... still no bonus lol, wth! So yep done, but so addicting so that's how they get you.

I didnt keep track of my rtp over the past few days but fml it has to be like yours. Its on some gross cycle right now so just stay away from it. Ill give it til next week probably til I play it again.. aside from playing in freeplay to see how its playing. I did 1900 more spins between last night and this morning on freemode and it was still sucking money with no bonuses.
 
A half-decent, but not brilliant win at LeoVegas last night

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Better than one of mine - I once had a ZERO paying bonus round at £2 a spin. I was surprised my computer screen was still intact but you can imagine that the air was rather blue and I had to wash my mouth out.

This slot caused me to take a break from gambling once before. Haven't really played it since.
 
It sure is funny to see all these members posting screenshots of next to zero wins all the time and the numerous complaints and yet BTG claim they have done nothing to the slot.

Sure guys.

I dont know if im just fed up with piece of rigged garbage slot or just feeling tiltish but I dont want to ever play it again. Im so sickened by it the last couple months. I hope im done with it but ive said it before and come back to it.

I feel like BTG had the rtp turned up the first month to get players addicted to it then turned it down to about 80%.

I find it pretty damn hard to believe its just a coincidence that all these members are having the same outcome. And same horrid results. But the first month it was out there were tonnes of screenshots and only complaints on how long it took to get the bonus.
 
It sure is funny to see all these members posting screenshots of next to zero wins all the time and the numerous complaints and yet BTG claim they have done nothing to the slot.

Sure guys.

I dont know if im just fed up with piece of rigged garbage slot or just feeling tiltish but I dont want to ever play it again. Im so sickened by it the last couple months. I hope im done with it but ive said it before and come back to it.

I feel like BTG had the rtp turned up the first month to get players addicted to it then turned it down to about 80%.

I find it pretty damn hard to believe its just a coincidence that all these members are having the same outcome. And same horrid results. But the first month it was out there were tonnes of screenshots and only complaints on how long it took to get the bonus.

if you think its so rigged why play it ? I know I would not go near a slot if I felt it was rigged ...

Reading this thread with some amazment how some are shouting out that either code is changed daily (it cant be)
or that somehow the game is compensated ...

Its random and its very very HV ....

The software providers of this game (and any other from a reputable company) have zero to gain and all to loose if they did not adhere to the standards set by the various licensing authorities such as Malta and the UKGC

Makes me laugh when someone comes in says they have done 800 spins on this game and from that they "Know" 100% the maths model has been changed.

If its rigged - stop playing simples.

for me personally lifetime Im up around £1500 on this beast. Maybe though BTG awarded my own personal IP a higher RTP :-)
 
It's simple for me now the game is not so new and the comp has ended less people play so the big wins are less. I noticed this matters because play a videoslots battle and the rtp is insane on any game and big wins happen. Then go back play the same game hour after the battle and it's back to normal. Firmly believe your best chance with any slot is when it comes out.
 
if you think its so rigged why play it ? I know I would not go near a slot if I felt it was rigged ...

Reading this thread with some amazment how some are shouting out that either code is changed daily (it cant be)
or that somehow the game is compensated ...

Its random and its very very HV ....

The software providers of this game (and any other from a reputable company) have zero to gain and all to loose if they did not adhere to the standards set by the various licensing authorities such as Malta and the UKGC

Makes me laugh when someone comes in says they have done 800 spins on this game and from that they "Know" 100% the maths model has been changed.

If its rigged - stop playing simples.

for me personally lifetime Im up around £1500 on this beast. Maybe though BTG awarded my own personal IP a higher RTP :-)

Im glad you find this thread both amazing and laughable. Its nice to be entertained for free.

I didnt know someone has done only 800 spins and made those claims. But gl to them I hope their luck improves.

I changed my IP address this morning before I tried it again. Seemed to work now excuse me for a minute Im going to change it again before the slots track me again

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It sure is funny to see all these members posting screenshots of next to zero wins all the time and the numerous complaints and yet BTG claim they have done nothing to the slot.

Sure guys.

There are plenty of people who didn't win on it back when there where more people posting screenshots of nice wins.
Stories of going 1k+ spins without a bonus round only to get a crappy one aren't new.
And you can find those same stories from other games as well and that very much includes this forums darling slots IR and Book of Dead (excluding DoA on purpose as it behaves more like an ultra low variance base game with a jackpot bonus round).
But just like Bonanza they are among the highest variance slots in existence so it makes some sense regardless of it being very frustrating because the money for the big wins has to come from somewhere.

What is far worse is when it happens in slots with no potential, hell you can go 1k+ spins in Starburst before seeing two reels of stars on the same screen and we all know that game has no big wins to fund.
 
There are plenty of people who didn't win on it back when there where more people posting screenshots of nice wins.
Stories of going 1k+ spins without a bonus round only to get a crappy one aren't new.
And you can find those same stories from other games as well and that very much includes this forums darling slots IR and Book of Dead (excluding DoA on purpose as it behaves more like an ultra low variance base game with a jackpot bonus round).
But just like Bonanza they are among the highest variance slots in existence so it makes some sense regardless of it being very frustrating because the money for the big wins has to come from somewhere.

What is far worse is when it happens in slots with no potential, hell you can go 1k+ spins in Starburst before seeing two reels of stars on the same screen and we all know that game has no big wins to fund.

People do 1k spins on starburst? That seems incredibly irresponsible.
 
Folks, the game is still the same. I've had some great wins over the week, I'll post them when I get on my laptop, for argument's sake.

And of course I have had sanity testing bad spells, so yes, still the same mad bad amazing slot.
 
yeah but you dont count. Ive seen all your huge wins. its obvious to me and everyone else BTG chose your IP address to get some wins so you can be the voice of reason and to discourage the people whose IP has been chosen to suffer.

Example me being the chosen one to suffer the most.

Unlucky!
 
yeah but you dont count. Ive seen all your huge wins. its obvious to me and everyone else BTG chose your IP address to get some wins so you can be the voice of reason and to discourage the people whose IP has been chosen to suffer.

Example me being the chosen one to suffer the most.

Unlucky!

:D I wish.

BTG, if you're there, please add my mobile too, I'll be posting screenies, promise :thumbsup:
 
whats even more shocking is you won on videoslots, thats like a miracle reborn.


Videoslots has been really hot for me the last few months. Just tried to cash out $700 but couldnt as I had a prepaid card not verified which I just used..really hate this:mad::mad: but
this time it paid off as waiting for it to be approved I continued playing and now have balance up to $2600.00
 
nice win.

I remember the days when I was able to dabble with $2-$5 bets. I couldnt even imagine doing that anymore. My god its scarey to think how much I would have lost if I was a regular at those stakes

Now i cant play it on vs for awhile because you got the big win of the day on that server. The rest of the day the slot will be making up for that to compensate.
 
Alright got my stats from betsson on this game. I only requested them because of how horrific this slot plays there

43,902 spins

37 bonuses.

RTP 79.8%

So that means on average im hitting freespins on that site every 1294 spins. This includes not having a bonus on 4283 spins between real money and play money right now. i stopped playing real money obviously so most of that is play money. But the above stats is real money

Ive requested them from videoslots where I expect them to be much better. Probably low 90's
 
I got my stats from videoslots and a bit better than I thought

171,365 spins

RTP 98.0%

Total bets made is $76,099,03



So real money spins on this slot is 216,267

I havent kept track of my play money that much but I would says Its around 100,000

So 316,000 total spins on this.

Best base game is 630x

Best bonus is 450x
 
So let me sum up a 130 page thread in a few words...
Its shit.
Its great.
Its shit again.
Its rigged but I still play it.
They have changed it.
No they haven't....
And some screenshots.
There, that saves the new members a hour or so :laugh:

"ill never play this again"

haha.

This thread is as emotional as a teenage girl
 

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