New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[toslotornot]

Do GOLD drops that also give a decent base game win generally pay nothing? Or is it just the luck I've had the last few days?

For 3 days I've hit two bonuses inside 10 mins and all six have dropped with 15x-25x base wins as well but they've all returned basically nothing in the bonus. The one other bonus that paid 97x dropped with no base win.

Happened just now again, dropped in with a 17x base hit and ended 25x, so 8x bonus. So that's seven dead bonuses with decent base game hits with the GOLD drop.

I'm not even complaining as the base game has been playing ridiculously well so I've used the same deposit for 3 days...until the heat last night had me trying to bonus or bust it at 1am, failed as usual lol

No more bonus or bust for me on this, I just couldn't be bothered to change slots last night and bonanza is usually the best slot to just pass some time.

Kind of amusing that I can bonus the game and have great sessions with 20x but play it like you guys and it just gives me some base game time until I hit zero!

all that matters is that the base game shows life and plays good and then it's worth sticking around to wait for a bonus or hit a good base win and leave with a profit too.

 

[lukey141]

Do GOLD drops that also give a decent base game win generally pay nothing? Or is it just the luck I've had the last few days?

For 3 days I've hit two bonuses inside 10 mins and all six have dropped with 15x-25x base wins as well but they've all returned basically nothing in the bonus. The one other bonus that paid 97x dropped with no base win.

Happened just now again, dropped in with a 17x base hit and ended 25x, so 8x bonus. So that's seven dead bonuses with decent base game hits with the GOLD drop.

I'm not even complaining as the base game has been playing ridiculously well so I've used the same deposit for 3 days...until the heat last night had me trying to bonus or bust it at 1am, failed as usual lol

No more bonus or bust for me on this, I just couldn't be bothered to change slots last night and bonanza is usually the best slot to just pass some time.

Kind of amusing that I can bonus the game and have great sessions with 20x but play it like you guys and it just gives me some base game time until I hit zero!

I haven't got a large sample size to work with but it does feel like that yes.

The last 'large' base game bonus I had that I noted was a 52x base into bonus with the bonus itself only paying another 18x.

The win is already calculated when you pressed spin. So the game knew it was paying you say 100x. If that was 100x in the base and 0x in the bonus or 50/50 split or all 100x in the bonus. The outcome was already determined.

So you just have to think of it as all part of the same spin (which it is). Obviously it feels bad when you hit a large base game during the trigger then the bonus flops but it's no different to having it all in the bonus other than psychologically. At least if you had a decent hit before the bonus you know you're not going away empty handed even if the bonus itself sucks.

 

[2Slots]

all that matters is that the base game shows life and plays good and then it's worth sticking around to wait for a bonus or hit a good base win and leave with a profit too.

This is what I generally do. If the base game puts me up enough I just set a leaving point that is still in profit and see if a bonus hits by then.

Even if it it puts me up a little it's usually enough to try and bonus it and leave at zero so it's like a free try.

It's the best thing about bonanza imo. The base game is so good it plays really well so much more often than other slots.

I was just asking about the GOLD with base game wins because I don't think I've ever had the bonus drop in with anything more than 5x. Those ones I mentioned are the first ones I've landed with such big base wins, 7 of them as well but the bonus didn't play well.

 

[2Slots]

I haven't got a large sample size to work with but it does feel like that yes.

The last 'large' base game bonus I had that I noted was a 52x base into bonus with the bonus itself only paying another 18x.

The win is already calculated when you pressed spin. So the game knew it was paying you say 100x. If that was 100x in the base and 0x in the bonus or 50/50 split or all 100x in the bonus. The outcome was already determined.

So you just have to think of it as all part of the same spin (which it is). Obviously it feels bad when you hit a large base game during the trigger then the bonus flops but it's no different to having it all in the bonus other than psychologically. At least if you had a decent hit before the bonus you know you're not going away empty handed even if the bonus itself sucks.

I usually have good bonuses tbh, they are usually near 100x when I do manage to land them so to have a great run of 8 in 4 days and only one 97x is a bit disappointing!

The bold part I'm confused by. I'm sure others have mentioned that bonanza isn't pre-scripted and each spin in the bonus is random but I feel like it plays out like any other pre-scripted slot bonus. I could be wrong about this though and they were commenting about something else.

DoA2 Train Heist feels more random than bonanza to me.

 

[lukey141]

So you're saying when you trigger the bonus the game has no idea if it will pay you 0 or 1000x?

No idea tbh. I thought games always knew what they were going to pay you and you simply watch a fancy animation that shows you what that amount was.

I think I prefer slightly scripted. If it's truely random and the game hit rate is around 3.5 then each bonus you'd technically only expect 3 hits from your 12 spins. I'm pretty sure it's almost always more than this other than the really dead bonuses. So it does seem like it hits more frequently. Though if they're using different reels maybe the hit rate is much higher (1 in 2 say) but it's still random how the outcome plays out. Just because 1 in 2 is average doesn't mean you can't have 12 dead in a row likewise you can hit all 12 too.

 

[2Slots]

So you're saying when you trigger the bonus the game has no idea if it will pay you 0 or 1000x?

No idea tbh. I thought games always knew what they were going to pay you and you simply watch a fancy animation that shows you what that amount was.

I think I prefer slightly scripted. If it's truely random and the game hit rate is around 3.5 then each bonus you'd technically only expect 3 hits from your 12 spins. I'm pretty sure it's almost always more than this other than the really dead bonuses. So it does seem like it hits more frequently. Though if they're using different reels maybe the hit rate is much higher (1 in 2 say) but it's still random how the outcome plays out. Just because 1 in 2 is average doesn't mean you can't have 12 dead in a row likewise you can hit all 12 too.

Same here. I assumed that bonanza is pre-scripted just from the way it plays out most of the time.

Maybe it was this comment but it could be referring to the max win only not the bonus in general:

New Slot Announcement Post in thread 'Bonanza by Big Time Gaming'

Jun 10, 2026

Yeah 40+ spins could still easily produce sub 200x

Obv games that have 10,000 20,000 and 50,000 x wins etc are normally games with max win scripts programmed into the game.

Bonanza doesn’t have that, hence why it can’t touch or get near some of the nutty wins other providers can produce.

Or get close to the likes of DOA2.

I said a while back that I’d much rather it was like the 5,000x max win prags which have that pre scripted max win feature.

I’m sure between all the sad cunts like me and others on this forum over the years would have seen several with all the spins we’ve all put...

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[lukey141]

Oh

Well I don't think those posts are saying something different to me though. I'm saying when you've pressed spin the slot already knows what it pays, regardless of how it does that. So it is scripted in the sense that it knows it has to pay 100x it now needs to work out how to give you it.

But yes I know there are games were you know straight away it's the max win seed because the start is insane.

Because of the way bonanza is 'uncapped', there's no such script for the max win as there's no specific max win for it to hit. Doesn't mean it's not still scripted.

Somewhere there's a script that says this spin needs to pay 20,000x and it will get there. Will that be a huge 1 hit wonder screen of diamonds or multiple retriggers that build up some stupid high multi who knows.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Bonanzas bonus isn’t pre scripted.

Each spin is a random call to the server.

Therefore when you start the bonus it doesn’t know in advance what the end outcome/final amount will be.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Bonanzas bonus isn’t pre scripted.

Each spin is a random call to the server.

Therefore when you start the bonus it doesn’t know in advance what the end outcome/final amount will be.

Glad we've cleared that up after nearly 20,000 posts to this thread.

Can we sort out whether or not it's compensated next please.

 

[Nate]

Glad we've cleared that up after nearly 20,000 posts to this thread.

Can we sort out whether or not it's compensated next please.

I'm trying to sort that out.

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[PMKFRUITPRO]

Glad we've cleared that up after nearly 20,000 posts to this thread.

Can we sort out whether or not it's compensated next please.

It is compensated yes. I have Nick Robinson on tape saying so.

 

[2Slots]

128x. Got a 112x hit of red gems. Hit the bonus on the 7th spin I think after the 6th spin did a GOL tease.

First time that's happened. Didn't think I was likely to get one that way with the bonus being so hard to hit.

Nice if I could get a back to back bonus now! I've had one on the first spin before.

 

[paul7388]

Bonanzas bonus isn’t pre scripted.

Each spin is a random call to the server.

Therefore when you start the bonus it doesn’t know in advance what the end outcome/final amount will be.

But how exactly do we know its not pre scripted.

We're told years ago it couldn't be pre scripted as the maths was too complicated . And that it would be impossible to pre script the bonus . Then Blueprint launched megaways using basically same maths and they could pre script the bonus.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

The game in question (Diamond Mine Megaways) uses the ball out the bag à la Jammin jars and shows that win. I’ve no idea if other blueprint Megaways work the same but I wouldn’t be surprised.

That’s not how bonanza works.(apparently)

Obv im not a programmer or game designer etc etc but that’s what we were told and despite some rather not so true statements from BTG themselves I’ve no reason not to believe that one.

It doesn’t really matter anyway. Most bonuses on both games are shit. No matter how they work or are designed.

IMO and I’ve said it before, I’d much rather bonanza bonus be like the lower end Pragmatics with the 5,000x capped win.

Look how much evidence of those hitting that win compared to bonanza. It’s chalk and cheese.

Even I’ve had 1 max win on prags, so if I can hit one anybody can. Altho I’m about 5 million down on gates of Olympus at the moment trying to get another one!!!

 

[thediro]

Pure utter hot ass garbage game

 

[thediro]

sigh - too many dead spins again

literally first 6 spins were dead

 

[2Slots]

That's a great bonus for bonanza lol

I just look at the bonus like it's no different to Big Bass ones. Bonanza just has a much more appealing design.

Other than that they really play the same way.

Big Bass might actually be a better option if you can sit through the dead base game tho!

My best win on that was 900x+ and I never actually played them that much compared to bonanza.

 

[Akercocke]

sigh - too many dead spins again

literally first 6 spins were dead

+5 is literally the death knell for a bonus, they always seem to be absolutely dire.

 

[toslotornot]

+5 is literally the death knell for a bonus, they always seem to be absolutely dire.

+5 bonuses pay way more than 12 spin bonuses. on average. according to my stats 17 spin bonuses pay 66% more than 12 spin.

 

[toslotornot]

sigh - too many dead spins again

literally first 6 spins were dead

who really cares how many dead spins (you could get 1 spin that builds up the multiplier say to 10x and then two or spins that pay some good symbols, that's worth more than some 6 or 7 dead spins in a feature), fact is the bonus paid 224.25x and the win multiplier reached x19 !, that's way above average of any average 12 spin or 17 spin bonus. only you could sigh over a great bonus like that. this is bonanza we talking about, where a 200x+ bonus is like a 1000x on almost any other slot.

 

[Akercocke]

+5 bonuses pay way more than 12 spin bonuses. on average. according to my stats 17 spin bonuses pay 66% more than 12 spin.

I never seem to get good spins from them - hit one literally last night and made less than 10x.

 

[lukey141]

I think it's just your mind.

When it's 12 spins you get a bad bonus you grumble and move on. When it's 17 spins you immediately expect it to do well so when it also flops it feels way worse than a 12 spinner so you remember the bad 17's a lot more.

 

[cof180]

Yeah, that’s about fucking right.

 

[cof180]

That’s better. Nice max megaways hit on Falls. Total win just under 500x.

 

[toslotornot]

That’s better. Nice max megaways hit on Falls. Total win just under 500x.

yeh but that's falls not the OG bonanza.

 

[lukey141]

That’s better. Nice max megaways hit on Falls. Total win just under 500x.

First I've seen of that version doing anything

 

[thediro]

Bonanza is just a fucking joke now days tbh....

complete balance vacuum, literally getting about 4-5min of gameplay on 0.20spins from a £10 deposit, thats just fucking mental now.

 

[cof180]

yeh but that's falls not the OG bonanza.

This one is. No idea how many 6 of a kind diamonds this was but over 1800x in the base. Holy shit.

 

[lukey141]

This one is. No idea how many 6 of a kind diamonds this was but over 1800x in the base. Holy shit.

Gesh what a base hit that is.

 

[cof180]

Wasn’t really paying attention so not sure how many ways it was but diamonds were everywhere. Shame you can’t replay the spin.

 

[thediro]

This is the real BTG bonanza at works

And once again i state, doing 0.10 spins is more fucking profitable than 0.20 spins on this dire mess....

And you are increasing your chances an extra 50 spins by doing the 10p slots.

Honestly, this is why i put small deposits through BTG now days.

Just a joke slot

 

[lukey141]

Well 6oak purples is 50x.

You got 1800x and some change. So you hit 36 ways of purples.

I want to say that Coral has not a spin replay but you can pull up the data that shows what was in each reel that would let you figure out exactly what the setup was.

My best guess would be 1,1,3,3,2,2 in some order as that makes 36 ways.

 

[2Slots]

Wasn’t really paying attention so not sure how many ways it was but diamonds were everywhere. Shame you can’t replay the spin.

What a hit

You might be able to see what landed:

New Slot Announcement Post in thread 'Bonanza by Big Time Gaming'

Jun 21, 2026

On some of the slots you can click on the win in the 'show history' section in options and it will show you what landed.

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[PMKFRUITPRO]

Coral / lads still has old versions, so I believe this isn’t possible.

Be careful playing falls there, it’ll be on the dogshit RTP.