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New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming
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Just dont go anywhere near paddy power honestly, you wont be winning shit over there.
£20 in 0.40p stake
GOLD - £4.80
GOLD - £6.40 (£2 of this was already going into the bonus)
Best base hit £5.60
Dead spin central, MASSIVE cascade blocks during bonuses, Paddy power always will be the most insufferable existing casino within the realm of gambling.
Great hit above though! Congrats!
£20 in 0.40p stake
GOLD - £4.80
GOLD - £6.40 (£2 of this was already going into the bonus)
Best base hit £5.60
Dead spin central, MASSIVE cascade blocks during bonuses, Paddy power always will be the most insufferable existing casino within the realm of gambling.
Great hit above though! Congrats!
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Interestingly, for me paddy power and unibet my stats were noticablely lower feature ave was only running at 58x ave before i left but that was on a lot less data than I have now ( only 300 ish), this did indicate to me early on that there was at least two potentially different math models early on.
Not that this proved either way, but it did feel like it and is why I started tracking sites seperately, and has been hinted at by many people that could be the case.
Not that it will ever happen but as a community, we could get enough data in no time to compare sites to confirm or prove anything eventually.
Not that this proved either way, but it did feel like it and is why I started tracking sites seperately, and has been hinted at by many people that could be the case.
Not that it will ever happen but as a community, we could get enough data in no time to compare sites to confirm or prove anything eventually.
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That’s 2 features in a 50x deposit?? That will probably only happen about 1 in 6/7 times.
Just unlucky they were shit.
I did £500 earlier on a £1 stake for 2 festures which didn’t make 50x between them. So ten times worse than you!!
It’s bonanza all over. Always has been always will be.
Having said that sky vegas was very generous to me yesterday.
Both run the same version as unibet.
Check the version numbers/update date/servers/RTP
If they were variations in the game you were playing they surely would be different???
They should be pulling results from exactly the same place according to the information screen.
Well this was on Paddys again, which apparently runs the same EVO version as unibet, but i can assure you 100%....its not the same.
Its not even the same layout, it doesnt spin or feel the same, connects arent the same....
£10 deposit, 0.20 stake
This is what i got....
Multiplier was happy to build up, but the only thing connecting was the K's and Q's for 3 a piece constantly, pennies again.
Its not even the same layout, it doesnt spin or feel the same, connects arent the same....
£10 deposit, 0.20 stake
This is what i got....
Multiplier was happy to build up, but the only thing connecting was the K's and Q's for 3 a piece constantly, pennies again.
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I can’t say for bonanza, but I have seen two different games have same version number, as the version number can just applies to the platform as in theory the “player” don’t need to see the internal versions.
Without knowing how they display versions and what they apply to we just don’t know.
It’s the same as a game showing v1.0.3 then you notice bits have changed, or buttons have but then you look and it’s still v1.0.3 etc in theory any change you would expect the version to change but it definitely doesn’t always.
In bonanzas case v2.73.0-nextgen does not mean two different versions of the game can’t exist, as in theory that’s just the front end version number.
I have never been involved in compliance side of things so I’m unsure of what’s permitted in this side of it.
I was planning to give bonanza, extra chilli and more turkey a good go tonight but after the first try on bonanza I think I might be skewing towards dropping these out of my slot rotation.
Shame really as these are fun slots but having to rely on all the other slots I play to restore my bonanza and friends losses means that I'd just rather play those and maybe give these a spin if I hit a really decent win.
The other slots I play have already shown me their potential and play pretty consistently so I'd rather put my time into those. I did hit a 400x on bonanza but it feels like I'll just be playing it all back so might as well leave them with a little profit.
These bonanza types slots are just way too patchy and I can't get the 1/460 bonus frequency for avg 100x win thing out my head when I'm playing. Sure way to lose easily I feel.
I even searched for bonanza max win and there was one video for 14000x i think but even that had some skepticism around it.
Something I have noticed over the last week tho is that bonanza implements the psychological tricks amazingly well.
In the 15 months I've played this is probably the only slot that almost gets me to want to just keep playing. No slots so far have triggered the give it a few more spins feeling more than this one!
It really does seem like BTG decided to create a slot that could have been legendary but for whatever reason created an infamous one. It doesn't really surprise me that every thread on the internet when i searched 'bonanza slot forum' is pretty much moaning
Shame really as these are fun slots but having to rely on all the other slots I play to restore my bonanza and friends losses means that I'd just rather play those and maybe give these a spin if I hit a really decent win.
The other slots I play have already shown me their potential and play pretty consistently so I'd rather put my time into those. I did hit a 400x on bonanza but it feels like I'll just be playing it all back so might as well leave them with a little profit.
These bonanza types slots are just way too patchy and I can't get the 1/460 bonus frequency for avg 100x win thing out my head when I'm playing. Sure way to lose easily I feel.
I even searched for bonanza max win and there was one video for 14000x i think but even that had some skepticism around it.
Something I have noticed over the last week tho is that bonanza implements the psychological tricks amazingly well.
In the 15 months I've played this is probably the only slot that almost gets me to want to just keep playing. No slots so far have triggered the give it a few more spins feeling more than this one!
It really does seem like BTG decided to create a slot that could have been legendary but for whatever reason created an infamous one. It doesn't really surprise me that every thread on the internet when i searched 'bonanza slot forum' is pretty much moaning
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Confused what you mean by this, you think 100x average per feature is high or low?
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Exactly, nobody knows for sure. Pointless discussing unless you know the facts. Which nobody does.
Even the BTG ‘rep’ had no clue what we were discussing sometimes when different ‘versions’ were mentioned that some could do and others couldn’t.
Stats and figures can vary so much all over the place despite it being apparently the same game.
So if you think it’s bent don’t play it. It will wind u up and fuck you over like no tomorrow but it can also please you now and again.
I hate it one day but love it the next.
That’s slots.
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It was some diamonds all the way across a few different ways.
Ive done 4.5 trillion spins on this slot and this is one of my best wins. Extremely rare to get 500x+ on this.
100x is a great bonus return but the average bonus frequency of 1/460 is too high for me even if the average feature returns 100x.
I try to take a long term view of a slot and bonanza feels like a slot where even if I hit a nice win there will have been too many dead sessions before it to make the wins enjoyable.
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Well the 100x average was banded around at the start.
Now apparently it’s 86x (ish) but that’s only if you go by the version that has bonus buys available.
Nobody knows for sure if that feature is exactly the same as if you landed one in the normal version.
Now apparently it’s 86x (ish) but that’s only if you go by the version that has bonus buys available.
Nobody knows for sure if that feature is exactly the same as if you landed one in the normal version.
Well all i know is, theres defo something wrong with Paddy powers version compared to the others i play...
Just saw the GOL about 9 times within 30 spins of each other, one of them even cascaded like 6 times, still not a single D drop but swere to god if i was over on Unibet (Ive hit my cap sadly) - that D woulda dropped 3 times lol.
And there both running the "same" version, which is bs, cause im telling you, the bricks are way to big, the drops are disgusting, no connects, constant dead spins....its just abysmal, i feel like im playing the version that most of you are on to the point, im feeling the sting now.
And again, even when features come - its the same usual payout bs.
Weird slot to say the least.
BTG defo made some special with this one.
Just saw the GOL about 9 times within 30 spins of each other, one of them even cascaded like 6 times, still not a single D drop but swere to god if i was over on Unibet (Ive hit my cap sadly) - that D woulda dropped 3 times lol.
And there both running the "same" version, which is bs, cause im telling you, the bricks are way to big, the drops are disgusting, no connects, constant dead spins....its just abysmal, i feel like im playing the version that most of you are on to the point, im feeling the sting now.
And again, even when features come - its the same usual payout bs.
Weird slot to say the least.
BTG defo made some special with this one.
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It's a 20.5x feature, below the average, not a total disaster, entirely to be expected.
I genuinely don't understand what you're expecting to happen the longer you plug away at this game, it's never going to pull a DoA/DoA2 style life saver out of the bag, and over time it is just going to take all your money off you.
20.5x features are just part and parcel of normal slots play.
And my answer to your question still stays the same…
I’m expecting a decent lil win out of the many bonuses I’ve had lol not looking for a max win just something better than average considering my bonus amount.
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I just enjoy when a £75 starter balance lasts the full of a football game on 40p spins before I have to move on. And that 3 scatters become a feature before it runs out. Regulating your losses for most people means regulating how often you spend money spinning.
If I had your bonus frequency mate I'd love bonanza, even with all the wins you say are shite. It's given me decent wins 400x, 140x, 95x, 85x but the last tries I've been sitting there just hoping to see a GOL tease
My bonanza experiment is probably over after 10 days of playing it everyday. I've been spinning it way more than my usual approach of 30x loss and move on because I know the bonus frequency is 1/460. I've been giving it a go with over 20 quid at 0.20 which I never do.
I reckon you have to look at this slot with the maths in mind. 20 quid at 0.20 is 100 spins but the avg bonus frequency is 1/460 so I'm relying on a hell of a lot of luck to actually hit the bonus. Either getting it early enough or the base game giving me enough stake back to keep going.
I'm sure I haven't hit any early bonuses all of mine have come after around 15 minutes right up to 45 but it's been the base game that let me get that far. Last bonus I was down to a quid then hit a 58x which got me a 95x bonus 10 mins later.
I don't remember the exact base/bonus split but I've been checking my game history at the end and it usually sits around 50-70% RTP with no bonus. If I'm correct then I'm hitting the base game RTP most sessions because that's going to be roughly the RTP available without the bonus.
I'll definitely play it if I ever have a decent win and don't mind losing 20 quid but for now I've played back the winnings and a little more but it's not cost me much so it's been fun...mostly!
Personally I look at a slot relative to what I've lost playing it and the gametime I got. If I spend 40x to get a bonus and it returns 30-50x it's a good bonus for me. Obviously being up is better but the nature of the game is what it is.
I started typing the above while my last 17p was invested in a penny bingo special. Had 17/300 tickets and somehow hit the full house for 30 quid 
Gave my usual slots another spin but they've been dead last few days so thought f it I'm going to spin bonanza with 15 quid and leave a fiver.
Thought it was going to be failure again but hit a double drop from GO to GOLD then hit a 236x on the 11th spin.
Gave my usual slots another spin but they've been dead last few days so thought f it I'm going to spin bonanza with 15 quid and leave a fiver.
Thought it was going to be failure again but hit a double drop from GO to GOLD then hit a 236x on the 11th spin.
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Now I remember why I stopped spinning this stupid game
Decided to put in a deposit and spin a bit. Big surprise 525 spins no bonus. I just can't get a bonus within 1000-1500 spins and it's been this way for the last 5 or 6 bonuses in a row now. Takes the piss
I only saw the L literally 4 times in those spins too. Including one of those huge piss take GOL on 123 followed by nothing on 456 AND a tumble that also doesn't drop it. That setup really hurts.
Decided to put in a deposit and spin a bit. Big surprise 525 spins no bonus. I just can't get a bonus within 1000-1500 spins and it's been this way for the last 5 or 6 bonuses in a row now. Takes the piss
I only saw the L literally 4 times in those spins too. Including one of those huge piss take GOL on 123 followed by nothing on 456 AND a tumble that also doesn't drop it. That setup really hurts.
Made 3 deposits of 70 euro , finally hit a bonus on the last deposit, I was betting 40cent a spin . Won 30 quid on a base hit and got up to a 100 quid. I was tilting a bit so whacked the bet up to 80 cent , hit a bonus with about 30 euro left and won 7 quid . I must have spun 7 or 8 hundreds spin by this point . I swear this game is can be brutal . I'd love to give the developers a kick in the balls
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£8 after all that play is good, you are playing a -EV game
was just unlucky it took that long, normally after long spells you get some way closer together, but not always of course! I mentioned before that this is one of the few games that makes me want to keep spinning, tilt is probably the more accurate way of putting it!£8 after all that play is good, you are playing a -EV game
Well yeah £8 loss from 1112 spins is fine. Though that wasn't the full picture. I should have said £8 today. I lost £100 yesterday as part of those 1112 without anything so actually it was £108 loss after the bonus.
But the 5000 spins before cost around £1000 as well so I'm still only running at 81% rtp combined.
And 4 bonuses in 6000 spins is criminal.
So yeah I'm 'due' a lot of faster bonuses but as we know the slot doesn't know this so I'm unlikely to ever see them.
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Ahem.
Just gonna slide this one in here... plenty of purple boxes at 12x
Just gonna slide this one in here... plenty of purple boxes at 12x
Very nice hit mate. Are there any differences to the original or is it just a christmas themed clone?
Honestly in my opinion….no
There both just as volatile and have there moments of “wtf”.
But I suppose it depends the casino you play.
Paddy power Xmas one seems more friendly than there normal version but both still absolutely vile.
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They're the same, just a reskin. Although it plays better - original game you can generally tell if a cascade is gonna hit or not with the speed of the drop. Christmas version it's always a "surprise" when the D doesn't drop.
…explain how
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I hate that pause when a cascade is going to miss..once you notice it,
it sticks out like a sore thumb! Thankfully my casino has the Relax version
that doesn't have this trait.
it sticks out like a sore thumb! Thankfully my casino has the Relax version
that doesn't have this trait.
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I kinda like it, as you can tell if the drop is a win, nice when very little chance of a win so its a D
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Same as he said the speed that the drop happens tells you if win or no win, particularly nice when you only have one hole and no win poss so you know its the D
So is the D faster or slower?
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A normal win is fast drop, for a D tease the heartbeat has to be fast, eg the glow has to be quick, hard to explain but as Downsman says once you see it you cant unsee it.
For example when i get a GOL i can tell if there is a chance or no chance, if there is a chance it still could be just a normal win dropping instead. If there is no chance you know straight away if that makes sence, its always been like this on some versions. Extra chilli can do it too, but not millionaire, turkey, vegas MW etc
I guess its sort of like the tell on hacksaw, win, no win you can tell by the speed of the drops.
For example when i get a GOL i can tell if there is a chance or no chance, if there is a chance it still could be just a normal win dropping instead. If there is no chance you know straight away if that makes sence, its always been like this on some versions. Extra chilli can do it too, but not millionaire, turkey, vegas MW etc
I guess its sort of like the tell on hacksaw, win, no win you can tell by the speed of the drops.
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in this 916-page drama: the Habitual Complainers and the Luckboxes.
this dynamic is actually what makes the thread so dangerous for someone trying to quit. It creates a "Cycle of False Evidence" that keeps everyone trapped
this dynamic is actually what makes the thread so dangerous for someone trying to quit. It creates a "Cycle of False Evidence" that keeps everyone trapped
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when you see the luckboxes drop in a 1000x win into a 916 page thread of misery the carrot is dangled just close enough to keep the cart-haulers moving for another 1,000 spins. The Luckboxes are the "Carrot-Holders" and the Habitual Complainers are the "Cart-Haulers.
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Tbh I feel the same about people constantly posting big wins on hacksaw, prag, NLC etc etc so it’s no different to any other slot.
For whatever reason people just constantly fail to accept bonanza for the slot it is, a marmite slot lol
If anyone should hate bonanza it’s me having never had a win over 1400x, but I don’t, why? Because it provides everything I want in a slot, gameplay, fun bonus, and entertainment, something many many other slots fail to do these days, yeah I’m looking at you hacksaw, elk, prag, NLC and many others lol
For whatever reason people just constantly fail to accept bonanza for the slot it is, a marmite slot lol
If anyone should hate bonanza it’s me having never had a win over 1400x, but I don’t, why? Because it provides everything I want in a slot, gameplay, fun bonus, and entertainment, something many many other slots fail to do these days, yeah I’m looking at you hacksaw, elk, prag, NLC and many others lol
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Its dire for me cant bonus it on any site or stake.
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I got bonus extra chilli before 60p stake 27p winnings btg hates me
BTG - Big Tormenting Goblins
Trust me, I have a love/hate relationship with this slot/provider almost as bad as nutnut had before.
I HIGHLY recommend anyone apart of this to literally just go back - and browse through the first 50-100 pages, you will see how much history repeats itself, only with different people at different times lol.
10+ years later, were all still saying "You know, maybe 1 day!"
Trust me, I have a love/hate relationship with this slot/provider almost as bad as nutnut had before.
I HIGHLY recommend anyone apart of this to literally just go back - and browse through the first 50-100 pages, you will see how much history repeats itself, only with different people at different times lol.
10+ years later, were all still saying "You know, maybe 1 day!"
Oh wow. Tried a version with this for the 1st time and once I caught the difference I could tell every tumble if it was a hit or not. That's really interesting. Gives you an extra game of guessing what will hit.
Though I'm not sure about the D situation. I had a tease and I thought it was fast and it dropped the D then I had another tease later that seemed the same but no D (or any other tumble). It seems harder to tell because it does a fast/short pause? Then the usual bonus tease anyway.
Either way shock horror that I actually got a bonus in 300-400 spins for once. Unfortunately didn't pay and I ended up withdrawing my deposit but better than nothing.
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On the tease it’s how fast the glow appears round the letters for the heartbeat before the drop, not the drop itself, if that makes sense, again once you see it you will not unsee it.
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Why the hell am I playing this SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
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