New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[PMKFRUITPRO]

You can work it out in the transaction history if you’ve only played bonanza.

Set it to gaming and put ur dates in.

Work it out from staked and returned.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I only play danger, bonanza, millionaire at paddy. For obvious reasons. Won’t touch anything that’s not on top RTP.

Here is mine over the last 6 months. Average stake of about 40p

So 93.4%. Not even the equivalent of the lowered RTP models of the same games. From a fairly large sample there. Apparently customer service can’t go further back to give lifetime figures. Probably just as well.

When it’s in its ‘shitter’ mode what’s most noticeable is not the lack of features. It’s the lack of even a chance of a feature. Almost a miracle to get 3 scatters in view with then a chance of the D. Which if you know the paddy version gives the pause of doom anyway to signify it’s not dropping in.

Hence my very apt description of the scatterless reel set.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Oh and here is my sports betting over the same period…….

Just goes to show what a stupid idea it is to play random slots on any RTP!!!

 

[dunover]

I only play danger, bonanza, millionaire at paddy. For obvious reasons. Won’t touch anything that’s not on top RTP.

Here is mine over the last 6 months. Average stake of about 40p

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So 93.4%. Not even the equivalent of the lowered RTP models of the same games. From a fairly large sample there. Apparently customer service can’t go further back to give lifetime figures. Probably just as well.

When it’s in its ‘shitter’ mode what’s most noticeable is not the lack of features. It’s the lack of even a chance of a feature. Almost a miracle to get 3 scatters in view with then a chance of the D. Which if you know the paddy version gives the pause of doom anyway to signify it’s not dropping in.

Hence my very apt description of the scatterless reel set.

I remember at Sky Vegas doing over 100,000 spins on BTG's Starclusters and for the first time in my gambling career feeling something was absolutely not right about my continuous beatings, I asked for lifetime stats on the bloody game. Turns out I was just shy of or just over 91% (cannot recall the exact figure) but I was convinced that I was NOT playing the 96% version although it was in the game info.

So yeah, I get the doubts this kind of deviation throws up.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Wasn’t it 30 odd thousand spins Dazza!! I remember you posting it!!

I’ve said this before about Bonanza.

The one thing I do agree with Snorky (and it is the only thing) is that sometimes you do feel you’re pulling results from a rigged deck.

Trust me I’ve done enough spins to see this.

Like I commented above, I perfectly understand how the bonus can be a long way away in bonanza. But when you session it for days and play 4-5 hours a session and the number of cascade chances you get or the actual chances of a roll in feature are 1 an hour or even worse then you know you’re getting fucked over.

On all the NYX versions I’ve experienced this numerous times. It’s like you’re loaded up with reel sets contains less scatters on reels 3-6, thus making even a tease the equivalent odds of actually landing a feature.

Wouldn’t surprise me if there are different reel sets for the base game.

Still random but with much less chance of a feature.

The base game remains the same, no complaints there. I can understand a few brutal sessions in a row, but when you see it non stop for a week it does concern you. You shouldn’t get that kind of gameplay on a consistent basis.

 

[dunover]

Wasn’t it 30 odd thousand spins Dazza!! I remember you posting it!!

I’ve said this before about Bonanza.

The one thing I do agree with Snorky (and it is the only thing) is that sometimes you do feel you’re pulling results from a rigged deck.

Trust me I’ve done enough spins to see this.

Like I commented above, I perfectly understand how the bonus can be a long way away in bonanza. But when you session it for days and play 4-5 hours a session and the number of cascade chances you get or the actual chances of a roll in feature are 1 an hour or even worse then you know you’re getting fucked over.

On all the NYX versions I’ve experienced this numerous times. It’s like you’re loaded up with reel sets contains less scatters on reels 3-6, thus making even a tease the equivalent odds of actually landing a feature.

Wouldn’t surprise me if there are different reel sets for the base game.

Still random but with much less chance of a feature.

The base game remains the same, no complaints there. I can understand a few brutal sessions in a row, but when you see it non stop for a week it does concern you. You shouldn’t get that kind of gameplay on a consistent basis.

Yep, you were right, I pulled the stats at 30k-ish but eventually stopped ever playing it again at around 100k spins, the latter 50k of them on sub-£1 stakes unlike the first 30k. Nothing changed. I got one 1000x plus in the whole time IIRC.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Wouldn’t surprise me if there are different reel sets for the base game.

Still random but with much less chance of a feature.

There is more than one set for base, and yes still random, but tbf many slots use more than one set for base, often slots that tease a lot but still manage to miss a feature can be using that method.

It can also be used to fine tune a feature hit rate etc. like when adding or removing a scatter changes the math too much, having two or more sets can help.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

You know this factually for bonanza??

Why and in what circumstances would you load up the game and be assigned a different one??

 

[Reelsoffun]

Yes it’s fact, but not sure what you mean by in what circumstances…..

If you mean being assigned different base reel sets that’s done randomly each spin, the same as everything else but obviously each set could be weighted so they are not necessarily equal chance.

 

[TheAddict]

So lets recap on what we've established. There's 3 base game reel sets and these are known as the Dazza set, the Snorky set and the PMK set.

 

[dunover]

So lets recap on what we've established. There's 3 base game reel sets and these are known as the Dazza set, the Snorky set and the PMK set.

Mine are the best as they pay 124% RTP and give scatters on the max megaways spins (after first tumble).

 

[TheSchwad]

Aah, ages since had 6 scatter trigger. Ooh what a disappointment

 

[Jono777]

Had a VERY rare but also VERY decent offer from Videoslots today based on this game....

50% deposit match plus 75FS @ 0.20 in Bonanza - 35x total WR

Now the shitty bit which spoils thing for us low rollers, they want a £50 minimum deposit for it

 

[TheSchwad]

Had a VERY rare but also VERY decent offer from Videoslots today based on this game....

50% deposit match plus 75FS @ 0.20 in Bonanza - 35x total WR

Now the shitty bit which spoils thing for us low rollers, they want a £50 minimum deposit for it

That offer was only reason I played it this morning, played my 75 free spins and just stayed, against my better judgement, got through 13% of total wagering before busting out, £50 + £25 bonus + £11.73 winnings from free spins.

 

[TheSchwad]

Had a VERY rare but also VERY decent offer from Videoslots today based on this game....

50% deposit match plus 75FS @ 0.20 in Bonanza - 35x total WR

Now the shitty bit which spoils thing for us low rollers, they want a £50 minimum deposit for it

They gave me an offer last month that was a lower initial deposit, didn't read T&C's properly, cos was only to be played on Evolution Live games, couldn't even open slot cos the big warning message wouldn't let me, even whilst in own deposited funds, until I cancelled the bonus

 

[Jono777]

They gave me an offer last month that was a lower initial deposit, didn't read T&C's properly, cos was only to be played on Evolution Live games, couldn't even open slot cos the big warning message wouldn't let me, even whilst in own deposited funds, until I cancelled the bonus

Had that live games offer last weekend I think....

Went to risk it hoping I could play other games (slots) but decided against it in the end and played bonus free at L&L instead.

 

[TheSchwad]

Had that live games offer last weekend I think....

Went to risk it hoping I could play other games (slots) but decided against it in the end and played bonus free at L&L instead.

Videoslots definitely don't help themselves with unenticing offers, despite clearly grabbing my attention . Especially for those that have to be selective with their monthly gambling budget, and can play higher RTP games elsewhere.

Thankfully L&L have consistent weekly offers, so always extra playtime. The Hyper offer today turned into 120% bonus to deposit ratio after decent wins in the 100 free spins.

 

[Jono777]

Videoslots definitely don't help themselves with unenticing offers, despite clearly grabbing my attention . Especially for those that have to be selective with their monthly gambling budget, and can play higher RTP games elsewhere.

Thankfully L&L have consistent weekly offers, so always extra playtime. The Hyper offer today turned into 120% bonus to deposit ratio after decent wins in the 100 free spins.

Hopefully it will return similar for me after work, can only do one more deposit this week

My 50 No deposit loyalty spins returned 0.32p lol

 

[TheSchwad]

11th bonus of the day, which seems like an achievement on this game anyway. Third one under 10x, biggest one is the 64.75x from 22 spins. Where did all the decent bonuses go?
Every single one has started with at least 4 dead spins

 

[TheSchwad]

On the 17th bonus of the day finally got above 100x.

Loads today have bonused just before busting out

 

[Jono777]

17th!!!!!

You'll have all the conspiracists posting shhh

 

[SpinUk]

On the 17th bonus of the day finally got above 100x.

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Loads today have bonused just before busting out

X16 and didnt even manage 200x. Yes definately Bonanza

 

[Jono777]

I got a bonus yesterday and although I have no proof, I wrote and read the script before the bonus had played out and finished.

GOL - cascaded D and a +5

First spin, up to x4 and a win of about 30x, 16 spins to go.....

If you're beyond bored, have a guess at what I predicted and also as mentioned was pretty much spot on and I'll confirm later lol.....

Clue: - It wasn't 16 dead spins

 

[dunover]

I got a bonus yesterday and although I have no proof, I wrote and read the script before the bonus had played out and finished.

GOL - cascaded D and a +5

First spin, up to x4 and a win of about 30x, 16 spins to go.....

If you're beyond bored, have a guess at what I predicted and also as mentioned was pretty much spot on and I'll confirm later lol.....

Clue: - It wasn't 16 dead spins

Sub-100x win, plenty of blocking scatters and bogus wilds, 3 or 4 small 3OAK/40AK wins and multiplier not even getting to 10x or 10x max.

 

[itsme123]

87 x stake win with a multiplier of x 13. Virtually impossible to get 100 x win on 17 spin trigger.

 

[Jono777]

Predicted the final total from 16 remaining spins would be just short or just over 100x

It paid £21 (105x)

As guessed, bogus wilds, 2 carts at top almost every spin (above reels 2 & 5 were most common) furthest win reached reel 4/5 at best dead spins in blocks of 2/3.

Multi reached x12

Took the lot with no further GOLD's

 

[brianmon]

4 Bonuses in 30 minutes (I only thought about including the time after the 4th one)

The L and the 3 +5's all dropped in together and a retrigger droped during the bonus.
So, quite disappointing for 32 spins (the last 5 spins gave one 3OAK).

516x

 

[dunover]

4 Bonuses in 30 minutes (I only thought about including the time after the 4th one)

The L and the 3 +5's all dropped in together and a retrigger droped during the bonus.
So, quite disappointing for 32 spins (the last 5 spins gave one 3OAK).

516x

516x is not disappointing when you consider @PMKFRUITPRO got 87x for a 32-spin trigger, and unbelievably when I got the BTG test demo for the bonus buy version some months after his disaster (which I have never played for real money) I did even worse.

It always starts the bonus buy with a 4-scatter trigger equivalent of 12 FS, I got 1x 10 and 2x 5-spin retriggers and had the same amount of winning spins as he did, ended up on a similar multiplier but somehow got 67x which I thought would be almost impossible as his 87x must've been an anomaly.

Never had one in real play, just a couple of 27's. So yours is good in context.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

More and more tilted everyday…….

 

[geordiecolin]

I have been stupidly persuing my quest to get something back a la Dunover on this bloody game responsibly for maybe 3 months now. £100 max per session maybe 3 times per week. Then today on my first £50 deposit I hit a six scatter trigger. The dead spins made it akin to a basic trigger.
I went out into our street to kick Mrs Patels cat but it was nowhere to be seen.
I will perservere

 

[dunover]

I have been stupidly persuing my quest to get something back a la Dunover on this bloody game responsibly for maybe 3 months now. £100 max per session maybe 3 times per week. Then today on my first £50 deposit I hit a six scatter trigger. The dead spins made it akin to a basic trigger.
I went out into our street to kick Mrs Patels cat but it was nowhere to be seen.
I will perservere
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270x isn't bad!

 

[geordiecolin]

270x isn't bad!

I am distressed Dunover. I want to emulate your feets but when I think back to the size of your feet at the Meister meet I should have concluded that mine will never get there at my age

 

[Jono777]

270x isn't bad!

It's not good either lol.

Problem is and we fall for it every time, we know these triggers usually end in disappointment (maybe even rage for a select handful ) but the 'eye candy' still fools us and there is always with us gamblers "Maybe this is the one...."

 

[geordiecolin]

It's not good either lol.

Problem is and we fall for it every time, we know these triggers usually end in disappointment (maybe even rage for a select handful ) but the 'eye candy' still fools us and there is always with us gamblers "Maybe this is the one...."

I was so bored that I was willing my money go to nothing before it hit so I can move on to a different game at another casino.

It is funny how we can do that when we have no compunction about smacking someone who is trying to rip us off!

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Somebody moaning about 270x on bonanza.

The tilt is even more real now.

Jeez.

 

[Slotter]

I hit the beast last night after a long vacation from it. 6 scatter trigger, paid 275x or thereabouts. Was quite impressed. The 4 scatter usually pays next to nothing these days.

Good to see @dunover still putting some Bonanza content out on YT.

 

[dunover]

I hit the beast last night after a long vacation from it. 6 scatter trigger, paid 275x or thereabouts. Was quite impressed. The 4 scatter usually pays next to nothing these days.

Good to see @dunover still putting some Bonanza content out on YT.

Only once a month now, had a terrible run until June's session. I didn't actually spend a penny of it on me, it all went towards my daughters birthday cash this month. Only a couple of days now until I unlock July's deposit limit lol, bet I don't win this time.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Dazzas idea of a ‘terrible run’ is a few 50x deposits that produce nothing of note.

But then don’t worry……. Here’s 3 bag to make up for it.

Spawny C**t

 

[slot_zombie]

Only once a month now, had a terrible run until June's session. I didn't actually spend a penny of it on me, it all went towards my daughters birthday cash this month. Only a couple of days now until I unlock July's deposit limit lol, bet I don't win this time.

You really need to get on the Cryptos then you can start doing £20 ($20) spins again without all this deposit limit nonsense and £5 stakes.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

A 20 quid deposit on 40p a spin should be enough for Dazza to build a balance to start hitting the £20 spins within half an hour.

 

[gonzo fonso]

ive been playing bonanza for several years now like alot of you here,like many also ive had a few thousand bonuses on the game,never had the 4 cart trigger in the bonus(strange that one would think in a few thousand bonuses over time)anyway signed up to lottogo casino at the weekned deposited £50 got a 100% match bonus,i played 40p spins had a few bonuses that payed 10x or so,real money was lost and was into the bonus money about £37 left hit the bonus 12 spins after a few spins got the 4 cart trigger ended up paying about 504x it just seemed i was playing a different game in the bonus it was hitting stuff all over the shop reminded me of days playing with a bonus at genesis global,i mananged to complete wagering and won £307

 

[The Viking]

When you think you are about to break every Bonanza records
6 scatter trigger with 10x on first spin but then pffffffffff
had another 2 features on .60 paid 200x and 250x so not all bad was 400 up after the play.

 

[dunover]

When you think you are about to break every Bonanza records
6 scatter trigger with 10x on first spin but then pffffffffff
had another 2 features on .60 paid 200x and 250x so not all bad was 400 up after the play.
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OMG don't tell me after the brilliant first spin you just got bogus wilds, blocking scatters and sporadic 'wins' of 3 or 4OAK royals.....

 

[The Viking]

OMG don't tell me after the brilliant first spin you just got bogus wilds, blocking scatters and sporadic 'wins' of 3 or 4OAK royals.....

you got that right mostly blocking scatters and 3 and 4 oaks and on a 22 multi only a decenst 6 oaks would be big but didnt happend exept that first spin even started to record it the screenies are from the video figured this was the one
would have made some brilliant entertainment on one of your videos

 

[TheAddict]

Trump might become Pope though! Never know!
So please give much more money between now and 2026, and then one of you will eventually get the chance to try again! One of you will hit one day, only 900 pages in so far on one of the most popular casino forums. Just been unlucky bro's. Any day now.

 

[megadam]

Interested to know how long folks have waited for a feature on Bonanza?

I've just come back off a 2400+ spin dry fest, taken me 3 weeks for a feature! Was genuinely thinking the D symbol was removed from the site I've been playing at. And yes before you ask got all of the classics, bogus wild above reel 2, carts blocking wins harder than the UK Government blocking access to Wikipedia and the usual distinct sense of disappointment that we all don't play with Dazza's reel set!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Interested to know how long folks have waited for a feature on Bonanza?

I've just come back off a 2400+ spin dry fest, taken me 3 weeks for a feature! Was genuinely thinking the D symbol was removed from the site I've been playing at. And yes before you ask got all of the classics, bogus wild above reel 2, carts blocking wins harder than the UK Government blocking access to Wikipedia and the usual distinct sense of disappointment that we all don't play with Dazza's reel set!

Once in a while a random game is going to want 6x the average number of spins for a feature, maybe even 7x. (This is about the outer limit in my experience.)

This feels bad enough on 'normal' slots but in Bonanza's case, with its psychotic maths model and stupidly rare bonus (1/460), this is going to leave it wanting somewhere around the ~3000 spin mark for a feature, which of course doesn't have to be any better or worse than any other feature when it finally drops in.

So at 2400 spins for a feature you're certainly up in the realms of shittery, but worse will be possible!

 

[TheSchwad]

I went over 9,000 spins once, on the same site, over a couple of days. Losses were dampened by several 50% deposit bonuses otherwise i wouldn't have stuck with it. The stats are buried somewhere in this thread.

It normally makes up for it with a flurry of quick bonuses (by bonanza's terms ) so you might get 3 or 4 in 500 spins once it hits.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I went over 9,000 spins once, on the same site, over a couple of days. Losses were dampened by several 50% deposit bonuses otherwise i wouldn't have stuck with it. The stats are buried somewhere in this thread.

It normally makes up for it with a flurry of quick bonuses (by bonanza's terms ) so you might get 3 or 4 in 500 spins once it hits.

OK I've found it here, at 9616 spins for a feature you're at just shy of 21x the average feature frequency which I've never seen in all my years of slotting and millions upon millions of spins.

I'm not saying it's statistically impossible, but it's getting into those realms.

I also note you were using Slot Tracker which at the time was known to have issues with tracking stats on some versions of Bonanza (and indeed, in general, if you look at the comments around your post).

Either way, as has been noted a gazillion times at this point, Bonanza uses an insane maths model that BTG have done very well with, creating a strangely hypnotic sort of experience that promises much but basically never delivers.

New Slot Announcement Post in thread 'Bonanza by Big Time Gaming'

Nov 25, 2022

Please see the final screenshots, it finally hit on spin 9615.
Although it recovered a little and RTP improved, I'm still five times the bonus frequency average, and the RTP doesn't tell the whole story, as at least 5,500 spins were on 20p. The snap-in shows money RTP (money in/money out), wheres the dashboard console shows StatiscticalRTP which takes into account stake, this is down at 73% cos of all the 20p spins when it was playing horrendously.

I upped it to £1 stake as was about to bust out.

The £3 bonus actually did a rare hit...

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[TheSchwad]

Cheers for finding it @ChopleyIOM crazily I continued to play it after this but have had good sessions on it as well. And the bonus frequency does eventually even out after bad runs.

Some pragmatics I've played have come close to beating this for actually feature frequency vs stated, and once went nearly 500 spins for a bonus on Wild North which was ludicrous!