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[gonzo fonso]

you are not mad Snorks regarding bonanza at videoslots,it plays 95% of the time absolute trash deposits go down like an hour glass,thats why i dont play there much at all anymore

 

[goatwack]

It's not uncommon for players to have their site preferences for their favourite slots, as well as noticing the disparities when doing so.

You'd have had a fun time convincing me that DOA played well at AllBritish Casino (and Mr.Smith, was it?) 'back in the day', as it was so far removed from anything I'd encountered prior at my regular haunts. Not only was the base game arid, but scatters coming into view was like witnessing divinity itself. By contrast, it seemed to always play at tad better at e.g LeoVegas, which was my clipjoint of choice back then.

Other oft-played games behaved with similar contrast, up until you could fine-tune what games to play where, I don't think that practice was too outlandish, and I'd wager many punters still apply that method (even if it shouldn't technically make any discernible difference).

Roll on to VS Bonanza however, and I'd say my gameplay there didn't exactly 'feel' tickety-boo compared to elsewhere, at least from a base game perspective. I may have had a good session there over many an attempt, but it was definitely not my go-to Bonanza hub, as I didn't project much luck to be forthcoming when playing it there. At least not in a 'value-for-money, prolonged placebo session kind of way, as the game normally behaves. It was usually straight to Bustville....

So yes, games do behave differently at certain sites, hand-waving away any preconceptions one might have had prior, as to the game's inner workings. When really the games ought to (have) played the same everywhere once upon a time. It's a strange thing!

 

[snorky510238]

you are not mad Snorks regarding bonanza at videoslots,it plays 95% of the time absolute trash deposits go down like an hour glass,thats why i dont play there much at all anymore

As posted above, I used to get sessions at VS, where I could hit 5 or 6 bonuses. That would happen say 1 in 4 sessions on average. That was fairly consistent for 3-4 years. Then all of a sudden I could go 15 sessions and perhaps only see 3 or 4 and that became the new pattern so nobody can tell me hasn’t changed because I know different.

The other thing I always noticed at VS was the average of the bonuses was particularly low and almost as if it were capped. I think out of hundreds of bonuses there, I only had 2 over x500.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Yes, and it went from that to going days and thousands of spins without seeing one. To anyone who has played the game enough, it’s obvious there was a change.

I asked Videoslots for my rtp since April 2021, when I think the change happened. 94% so at least that proves I am not mad and seeing things or making it all up, as some people on here have claimed.

I think, that actually proves the opposite. I am actually very astute and switched on, to notice a dip in rtp, just by what I observed.

Across all games or just on Bonanza? And how many spins was that over?

If it's just Bonanza then you're only 2% adrift from T-RTP, which isn't too bad. The more telling number would be your lifetime RTP on the game at VS.

 

[cncas2123]

Another cracking 22 spin bonus...

 

[snorky510238]

Across all games or just on Bonanza? And how many spins was that over?

If it's just Bonanza then you're only 2% adrift from T-RTP, which isn't too bad. The more telling number would be your lifetime RTP on the game at VS.

Just talking Bonanza here and over 100,000 spins since the date in question.

Trtp doesn’t really count for anything it’s just smokescreen bollox.

The only thing that matters from a player point of view, is the maths behind the game, that determines how the rtp is met.

For example, most slots initially had Trtp’s of around 96% so they should all pay out the same over a long period and they may well have done but you wouldn’t get the same chance of withdrawals playing Starburst as you would playing Bonanza and neither of those can be compared to DOA.

It’s the variance that matters and the range of hits available. If and it’s a mighty big IF, Bonanza is still paying the said rtp, then the variance has been changed dramatically.

The range of hits in the bonus round is nowhere near what it was before. It may be legal but it’s totally immoral and unethical imo.

It also seems more than a coincidence that on every site I played at, my rtp has dropped dramatically since that date. One is as low as 86% and others are around 93%. It’s hard to put that down to just pure bad luck over 10 different sites. Especially when the game is playing markedly different at every one.

 

[mack341]

It's not uncommon for players to have their site preferences for their favourite slots, as well as noticing the disparities when doing so.

You'd have had a fun time convincing me that DOA played well at AllBritish Casino (and Mr.Smith, was it?) 'back in the day', as it was so far removed from anything I'd encountered prior at my regular haunts. Not only was the base game arid, but scatters coming into view was like witnessing divinity itself. By contrast, it seemed to always play at tad better at e.g LeoVegas, which was my clipjoint of choice back then.

Other oft-played games behaved with similar contrast, up until you could fine-tune what games to play where, I don't think that practice was too outlandish, and I'd wager many punters still apply that method (even if it shouldn't technically make any discernible difference).

Roll on to VS Bonanza however, and I'd say my gameplay there didn't exactly 'feel' tickety-boo compared to elsewhere, at least from a base game perspective. I may have had a good session there over many an attempt, but it was definitely not my go-to Bonanza hub, as I didn't project much luck to be forthcoming when playing it there. At least not in a 'value-for-money, prolonged placebo session kind of way, as the game normally behaves. It was usually straight to Bustville....

So yes, games do behave differently at certain sites, hand-waving away any preconceptions one might have had prior, as to the game's inner workings. When really the games ought to (have) played the same everywhere once upon a time. It's a strange thing!

 

[brianmon]

My lifetime RTP on Bonanza at Videoslots is 94.22, although I don't play it much at VS, so that's only over 56,336 spins
More of a concern is that my lifetime RTP for ALL games is 94.34% which seems low, considering I don't ever play any games that have had their RTP lowered or any games less than 96%

 

[snorky510238]

Another cracking 22 spin bonus...

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Seems familiar, this is from VS.

 

[snorky510238]

Here are the 3 I hit prior to that, all at VS and if I can find the time, I will go back and post my last 100 bonuses from there, with nothing left out, just to suit the agenda.

I think 100 should be enough to be able to draw a reasonable conclusion. What do you think people? Or will that still not be enough to satisfy some?

 

[goatwack]

Never ceases to amaze that the added five spins would ever likely bring about a greater bonus round, given that the bonus is predetermined anyway.

I realized this myself after around the 3rd time this happened, as the 'extra' spins are just visual padding to keep players engaged, and are of no consequence to the end result. Unless one gets off on watching four out of the five spins being dead, that is

 

[snorky510238]

We have analysed your account activity for the game Bonanza. Your stakes and winnings show your pay-out winning percentage (RTP%) is 87.71%.

Should you have any concerns regarding a bet/s placed whilst playing at our casino, please provide us with more details in order to investigate further.

Regards

Complaints Team

This is copy and pasted directly from the reply I got from SpinRider, after questioning some unbelievably shite gameplay at their site.

 

[goatwack]

We have analysed your account activity for the game Bonanza. Your stakes and winnings show your pay-out winning percentage (RTP%) is 87.71%.

Should you have any concerns regarding a bet/s placed whilst playing at our casino, please provide us with more details in order to investigate further.

Regards

Complaints Team

This is copy and pasted directly from the reply I got from SpinRider, after questioning some unbelievably shite gameplay at their site.

That doesn't tell me anything. Over how many spins? How much was wagered? Were you wearing your special hat?

 

[snorky510238]

Over 5 years, £1,000’s deposited 6 figure spins but yeah, you’re right, I forgot to wear the right hat.

 

[6HellsBells6]

Seeing this thread put me on the Bonanza trail as I got curious from all the posts.

So, recently I have only started giving it a try with real play.

Last week I played one day and it had raped (But Gently) me for 130e, a few days later tried again on the same site, and hit 230e on a 60cent bet. Cashed out tried again a few hours later and it (Brutally)raped me for 230e.

Couple of days later played 1e per spin and landed a 22 spin trigger and hit 430x. And that's where I've stopped for now.

Maybe I got a bit of beginners "luck" and it being also a bit late in the day....

 

[goatwack]

That's what we like to see, a new Bonanza convert to join the ranks and rejoice in the game's glory!!

That, but more so that we have someone to push us towards the 20,000 posts mark in this thread, so that the Keyser Söze of reps may finally honour that Bonanza comp he promised around four years ago ?

 

[6HellsBells6]

22 spin trigger 407x

 

[kennygamerboy]

22 spin trigger 407x

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i see that’s in € hardly get the big wins in £ anymore

 

[snorky510238]

i see that’s in € hardly get the big wins in £ anymore

Quite right! From memory, I had nothing above x300 in my last 100 bonuses. If I did it may have been 1 at the most.

 

[sufferinsilence]

I play in € and haven't seen anything close to 200x on Bonanza for a while... atleast a couple hundred € mostly on 20 and 40c play.

So playing in $, £ or € doesn't really matter

 

[goatwack]

It's no secret the *only* currency Bonanza warms to are streamer dollars. You know the ones - look like regular dollars but in the shape of a penis

 

[Jackstar]

Has anyone actually hit gold on vs??

 

[snorky510238]

Check above, I posted my last 4 but for what they paid, wasn’t worth talking about.

 

[snorky510238]

Looks like we’re both having some of that “random” bad luck or as I prefer to call it “bullshit”.

 

[Jackstar]

Defo something changed I had a bit of a break and thought I’d try again but no D is in there and base game dire

 

[snorky510238]

Absolutely, it did and not just subtly either. I never used to question my gameplay at Videoslots because it used to bonus regularly and I was playing a lot of other sites and overall one subsided another and so on for months on end.

It was only when every site started to play markedly different, that I began to look deeper. When I look back, I very rarely had a decent base hit at Videoslots and I never hit, what you would class as a monster.

I also didn’t hit that many (compared with some other sites, not all), decent bonuses. I think my best was around x500 but most were less than x200. That’s a very unlikely stat, considering how many I hit over the time.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

To put what ur saying into perspective…..

It took me a year to hit my first 500x and 2 years to hit my first 1000X!!!

And obv most bonuses are well under 200x Snorks. Always have been.

Use to do my head in when I was looking at all your screen shots back in the day as I was getting nothing like what you were hitting.

Our pinnit then had a very purple patch just recently along with Dazzas year long run of continuous profit. Ur answer to why Dazza has a year long winning spell??? It’s compensating him for losing the year before!!!

That’s what’s supposed to happen!!! You play online slots you lose overall.

You’ve said before for your RTP at VS was at 102% for an age and levelled out at 98%. Do you have any idea how lucky you were for that to happen??? Over that many spins?

Was it bent when it was like that for 3 years or so? When u were running better than anyone else on the forum??

You’ve now had a shitty period, a long shitty period. Which is the flip side I’m afraid.

Ask them for your lifetime RTP and post it. Then we can see overall?? And none of this oh they just lie about it or make it up etc etc like you said sky did. Because you can’t use a short term rtp which they’ve told you is a couple of % under and take it as fact. Then claim it’s bullshit when the long term one is probably bang on what it should be.

Let’s see your long term/all time RTP. Then we can put this to rest about videoslots!!!

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I pretty much stopped depositing at VS, when they dropped all the RTP for uk players. I know that doesn’t affect bonanza play, but if I fancied playing a few other games then I obv just deposited elsewhere, where I could also play bonanza!! Why on earth would anyone want to continue with them is beyond me but that’s another argument.

Here is mine, only 75k spins but as you can see it’s a bit over. I remember doing ok on it just before I stopped playing there.

 

[snorky510238]

I pretty much stopped depositing at VS, when they dropped all the RTP for uk players. I know that doesn’t affect bonanza play, but if I fancied playing a few other games then I obv just deposited elsewhere, where I could also play bonanza!! Why on earth would anyone want to continue with them is beyond me but that’s another argument.

Here is mine, only 75k spins but as you can see it’s a bit over. I remember doing ok on it just before I stopped playing there.

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You know the game changed, I know the game changed. As posted above, rtp is immaterial really. It’s how a game pays that rtp that counts and the way Bonanza pays it now, IF it does, has changed.

If I go back in the thread, there’s numerous posts from yourself claiming certain sites had rigged versions and you in your own words “gave up playing for your own sanity” so something must have changed.

There’s not much strength for the defence when you say, you played at sites where it was rigged but it’s impossible for anyone else to have the same experience, is there really?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Oh god!!!

All my rigged posts are just tongue in cheek ffs!!

If I was serious about thinking a casino was stealing my money using underhand tactics like u obv are then I’d stop playing and refer them to the relevant authorities with PROOF.

Do you honestly, honestly think I’d be stupid enough to carry on depositing at a site I thought was bent and not above board??

I was playing bonanza to much, sometimes running it all day. On the back of a terrible run I knocked it on the head. Better I am for it aswell. I don’t call it out over and over again and whinge like fuck but then carrying on rowing it!!

IMO different versions do play slightly different from each other. Subtle differences. But I could never prove that and not once have I ever came out with nonsense like oh evolution are behind it, oh since the April update it’s terrible, something you had NEVER mentioned until Kenny did. You’ve been saying it for way before that when basically you ever you had a shit spell.

Everybody has ranted about the game. Of course we all have, but the proof is in the long term RTP you have. Something you’ve still not posted!! Ask for it and post it!!

If you’re on 94 or below overall I’d be amazed.

Pretty much all mine are in and around where they should be. Some a bit under and some a bit over.

The game is a horrible nasty c**t sometimes. Trust me I know more than anyone. Leave it alone Snorks like you’ve said you would god knows how many times.

Take it from me, it’s clearly doing you no good!!!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

U r correct I gave up for my own sanity.

I doubt anybody, maybe even you, has spun it as much as I have.

Altho I still dabble with bet winnings/losses I’m a far happier person. There are other games out there as well.

 

[Jono777]

Seems to be some grey areas and confusion here guys after 800 pages, I am still very confused....

So, I ask. Is it rigged or not?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

It’s rigpensated.

 

[cncas2123]

The usual shite...

 

[brianmon]

Sorry, but... 32Red again

490x

 

[TheSchwad]

Not my wins, they're the last 2 posts on the BTG Facebook group, look at the difference in x wins ?.

Not sure if you want this type of content you want in this thread not being CM players, but at least its another 5000x win to add to the 'not so long list'! Must be five in total worldwide now. Wonder what the guy hit on the last spin with 28x multiplier (assumng Vincita €4,876.60 represents the last spin win) and how the hell did he get to 28x multiplier on 12 spins, though I did get to 50x multiplier on Royal Mint enhnaced once, which would've been 25x on regular bonus, didn't pay massive though.

 

[pinnit2014]

I'll say it first before someone else does:

Big X win - not in ££££

Super small X Win - ££££

No one mentioned this as being a consequence in the Brexit brochure

 

[bianchini82]

Not my wins, they're the last 2 posts on the BTG Facebook group, look at the difference in x wins ?.

Not sure if you want this type of content you want in this thread not being CM players, but at least its another 5000x win to add to the 'not so long list'! Must be five in total worldwide now. Wonder what the guy hit on the last spin with 28x multiplier (assumng Vincita €4,876.60 represents the last spin win) and how the hell did he get to 28x multiplier on 12 spins, though I did get to 50x multiplier on Royal Mint enhnaced once, which would've been 25x on regular bonus, didn't pay massive though.

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wow we have an italian pinnit here ! @pinnit2014

 

[dunover]

Not my wins, they're the last 2 posts on the BTG Facebook group, look at the difference in x wins ?.

Not sure if you want this type of content you want in this thread not being CM players, but at least its another 5000x win to add to the 'not so long list'! Must be five in total worldwide now. Wonder what the guy hit on the last spin with 28x multiplier (assumng Vincita €4,876.60 represents the last spin win) and how the hell did he get to 28x multiplier on 12 spins, though I did get to 50x multiplier on Royal Mint enhnaced once, which would've been 25x on regular bonus, didn't pay massive though.

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I once hit 33x multiplier on a 12-spin bonus, in the first months it was out. Rare, but it does happen.

Playing Max Megaways in demo, the next release, I have had 60x on the 2x multiplier once and over 50x twice. With retriggers.

 

[snorky510238]

I once hit 33x multiplier on a 12-spin bonus, in the first months it was out. Rare, but it does happen.

Playing Max Megaways in demo, the next release, I have had 60x on the 2x multiplier once and over 50x twice. With retriggers.

Very rare indeed. I have had over 4,000 bonuses and never got the multiplier above x27, iirc (certainly never x30 or above). To be honest, not that many over x20 and when I did manage it, never hit a mass of any symbol.

 

[aceking123]

Multipliers go up,wins go down. Scripted crap.
But it has big potential..............
Oh sorry 6 years on & we still don't see the fulfilment.........

 

[dunover]

Very rare indeed. I have had over 4,000 bonuses and never got the multiplier above x27, iirc (certainly never x30 or above). To be honest, not that many over x20 and when I did manage it, never hit a mass of any symbol.

LOL...just got this on Max Meagreways:

 

[snorky510238]

Multipliers go up,wins go down. Scripted crap.
But it has big potential..............
Oh sorry 6 years on & we still don't see the fulfilment.........

Said a few times, that the clue was the game not having a cap on winnings. Any game with the possibilities that Bonanza should have, if it were genuinely random, comes with a cap.

 

[brianmon]

A rather disappointing one tonight, considering the number of spins and multiplier.
It started as a standard 12 spins, then added a 4 scatter and then a 3 scatter.

639x

 

[johnnymcc1966]

I once hit 33x multiplier on a 12-spin bonus, in the first months it was out. Rare, but it does happen.

Playing Max Megaways in demo, the next release, I have had 60x on the 2x multiplier once and over 50x twice. With retriggers.

I got up to that on only my second ever bonus on the game,it was triggered by 8 scatters and paid around 750x.

 

[kennygamerboy]

LOL...just got this on Max Meagreways:

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shilling hard i see ?

 

[CongoGB]

8 or 9 of the 12 were dead spins, and I was getting annoyed until a shedload of A's turned up:

 

[dunover]

shilling hard i see ?

WTF??

I was demonstrating what a previous poster had said about 'multipliers go up, wins go down'.

In this instance, 38 spins after loads of retriggers and a monster 72x multiplier, to return a mere 1400x.