New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[goatwack]

Ooh

Sounds to me like someone doesn't believe in unlimited wins. For all you know someone could still be playing out a bonus round from 2016

 

[sufferinsilence]

Ooh

Sounds to me like someone doesn't believe in unlimited wins. For all you know someone could still be playing out a bonus round from 2016

 

[snorky510238]

And the multiplier still hasn’t reached x30.

 

[gonzo fonso]

well Bonanza certainly isnt paying in this last week or so,i tried Chocolates last night and it was awful worse than Bonanza and thats saying something

 

[snorky510238]

Was never over fussed on Chocolates or Donuts (apart from the edible kind). They always seemed a bit too staged, if you know what I mean. Not as bad as Holy Diver and that Survivor shite though, they were bloody awful. Did anybody ever manage a decent hit on either? Never saw one.

 

[pinnit2014]

Survivor was ok-ish in my first foray: HD started off crap, was crap, probably still is crap and will forever remain crap

Donuts and Choccy are OK - seen a few good hits and they can deliver

Their Megacluster games though are far away from being good and leave you very much underwhelmed - they should probably just chuck them

 

[The Viking]

$45 deposit this morning first spin helluva lot of Q´s

 

[gonzo fonso]

Was never over fussed on Chocolates or Donuts (apart from the edible kind). They always seemed a bit too staged, if you know what I mean. Not as bad as Holy Diver and that Survivor shite though, they were bloody awful. Did anybody ever manage a decent hit on either? Never saw one.

i thought i would just try a different game,one thing i will say though out of all the BTG games Bonanza will in general give you more play time regardless of win or lose,slots like the final countdown,chocolates etc will strip your bankroll alot quicker

 

[gonzo fonso]

$45 deposit this morning first spin helluva lot of Q´s
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lovely hit,we dont get base game hits in the uk like that

 

[kennygamerboy]

i thought i would just try a different game,one thing i will say though out of all the BTG games Bonanza will in general give you more play time regardless of win or lose,slots like the final countdown,chocolates etc will strip your bankroll alot quicker

beg to differ. bonanza these days is zero play time zero fairness zero cash out

 

[pinnit2014]

That's because BTG/Evo like zeros....on the bottom line of their accounts

 

[Phenomoron]

Hours of play today on paddy power with no bonus.. None!!... Biggest base game hit was 25x...why do we go back playing bonanza with no rewards!!

 

[goatwack]

Because it's not just about the playing, it's a pilgrimage of enlightenment that is never-ending.

Take this path long enough and you'll be 'at one' with it, trust me on this

 

[Phenomoron]

Because it's not just about the playing, it's a pilgrimage of enlightenment that is never-ending.

Take this path long enough and you'll be 'at one' with it, trust me on this

My feet are sore from this pilgrimage....

 

[dunover]

My feet are sore from this pilgrimage....

My arse was sore from it, but I've not played it for a month so comfortable again.

 

[snorky510238]

I think it’s because our brain remembers how it was capable of playing during the first 4 years after it’s creation and trust me it could play well, despite what a lot of people said and thought.

The problem is nowadays, we keep hoping for those days. just like we yearn for times gone by in other walks of life. Unfortunately, just as those wonderful times past, are denied us by Father-Time so are the great days of Bonanza.

Yet it is not Father-Time who denies us the great days of Bonanza past. No indeed, that is down to a bunch of cunning programmers called @BTG Rep, who since being bought out by Evolution have decided to rinse their customers and bleed them dry of every penny they have.

I have to hand it to you @BTG Rep, a genius move and a master stroke, if ever there was one. A bit like getting everyone addicted to heroine at £100 a throw and then charging them a £1,000 a throw.

Although totally unethical and immoral, just like the example above, you couldn’t give a damn because you are the ones reaping the rewards and we are the fools who keep coming back for more punishment.

 

[goatwack]

When BTG asked you to write a global advert for Bonanza, I don't think that's what they meant Snorky

 

[snorky510238]

It is bent to be a compensatory post but I can’t if help it and surfer from dislexic if my words come out rong.

 

[brianmon]

I can't say it's been too bad over the last few weeks. Not brilliant. But it's generated a few cash-outs.
Although that's maybe down to knowing when to walk away. Once I've hit a semi-decent bonus, I play up or down to the nearest £10, just in case something else happens. Then either withdraw my balance or play something else.


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[snorky510238]

How many shitters did you hit? 7 decent bonuses in 2 weeks is outstanding these days but still not ground breaking. Interested to know which Casinos you play. Oh, and just for the record 31 of my last 34 bonuses paid under x100, 2 paid x100-200 and 1 between x200 and 300. Disgraceful shit.

 

[brianmon]

I usually get 3 - 5 rubbish bonuses before a semi-decent one.
I think it's more a case of which server you're playing from rather than the casino.
MGS - seems to be lower variance. The bonus seems to drop in more often. But generally pays low
NextGen - Higher variance. Bonus less frequent. But generally pays higher.
Relax - seems to be impossible to win anything on, although I've only found that version at Unibet

I also now avoid playing between 5pm and 8pm. Its always been a very unlucky time period for me

 

[snorky510238]

Makes you wonder how the server can make a difference. I agree, it does seem that way but it shouldn’t, should it?

 

[pinnit2014]

3-5 is the holy grail - few months ago i think i wracked up 17 in a row under 50x. Got to the 8th and remember saying: it won't go to 10?. Then it was: not to 15. Weird sensation watching all those <50x: mix of disbelief and rage. Used to crack up if it gave 6 shitters in a row but 17 is the new 6

It then gave it back via Beef Lightning in a few decent hits so all was forgiven.

 

[paul7388]

Just to add a little perspective.

Here are just a couple of quotes from pages 10 to 13 from 5 and a half years ago.

Personally never saw the fascination of this game. Even many megaways since have far higher potential and actually show it.

But tho some members are saying it now plays so poor as used to play good. Many even when it first came out never got good sessions and found it the way people are finding it now.

Well. I had 3 bonuses. One paid 6x the other 22x and the other a 5 scatter that paid 100x.

The more I play this the more unethical I feel this game is. How can you create a game where the base game pays nothing and the bonuses are triggered once every 1200 spins on average. And then half the time pays nothing?

I also saw this happen to a twitch user. It took him 1200 spins and it paid 0.5x. He was pretty upset obviously.

BTG you make some nice looking slots with great potential but I think this is unethical by all standards and hope to see some changes made

just my thoughts anyways

Well I am going to question the randomness of this slot.

£1,200 gone within no time.

Why is it not random in my opinion:

- Base game is more than happy to bang 2 scatters in a lot, you get a win, it drops and happy days 3rd scatter appears. But if you happen to have 3 scatters and it then drops (more than once) bad luck - no 4th scatter to be seen

- You wait hundreds of spins for a bonus round, then it finally drops in and the next one drops in within 70 spins. And that is EVERY frigging time

- During the free spins, I have never had a win on the last spin. It is always a dead spin.

And where is the Rep from BTG? He hasn't answered some of my questions.

How big a bank roll do you need for this game?

You have as much chance of seeing a 3,000+ win on this game as I have a chance of winning the lottery, and I don't even play the lottery.

And when finally the bonus round drops in, you get this piece of crap:

During that £1,200 loss (not bothered about that) I didn't even have a win big enough to post in here.

So whoever reads this topic and wants to give this game a try: don't! You better off playing Dead or Alive. At least we all know it can pay big.

So BTG - come clean with this game please. What are the odds of having at least a 3,000x win and what is the biggest multiplier win this game has dished out.

I think as customers we owe an answer to this.

After yet another bonus round of under 50x (25x to be precise) that I had to wait 721 spins for, that is me done.

Not just with this slot, but for online slotting for a period of 30 days. Deposit limit set and reached.

Well done BTG, you just took the fun away from online gambling.

And if VS is reading this post, look at BTG's direction why you're not seeing any of my money for the foreseeable future.

Hope the designers of this slot sleep well at night, they created a monster here. A very dangerous monster.

Rant over now.... I said my piece so will continue reading in this topic only.

And for those playing it..... good luck.... and boy will you need it unlike any other slot you play.

this is a turd

Goes 500 spins no feature then get a whole 20x bet in feature.
Gave this game alot of goes and so far not even one good session

 

[CongoGB]

Just to add a little perspective.

Since when did that sort of thing make any difference to this thread!

 

[snorky510238]

And just too balance it out, I had thousands of great wins in the first 4 years but could probably count on 1 hand the big wins in the last 18 months.

 

[goatwack]

Th-th-thousands??

I've played it a fair bit and could count what I consider Bonanza big wins on one hand (but then my teacher did say I'm not quite ready to progress to two hands....yet)

 

[CC07]

Back when I started playing it I remember having three 1000x wins in quick succession and lots of big wins. I’ll be honest, got a bit obsessed and ended up playing it daily and playing through a lot of spins. Slowly the wins started to diminish. Averaging out of RTP or the game changing? At that point who knows. All I know is it got me so angry that I was never getting a cash out, that I took a 6 month break from slots. Since I’ve been back in the slotting world I’ve not had a bonanza bonus over 10x, so have officially moved it to the list of slots I’m bored with and probs won’t go back to again. I’ve actually been having a lot of luck and fun (most importantly) with some of my old Netent faves (not starburst Goatwack before you start - it was a rookie mistake and I understand now ?) and have found some new games to play. My advice to anyone who is still trying to reach the massive “potential“ on this game… it’s really not worth the anguish.

 

[Phenomoron]

Beau

I think it’s because our brain remembers how it was capable of playing during the first 4 years after it’s creation and trust me it could play well, despite what a lot of people said and thought.

The problem is nowadays, we keep hoping for those days. just like we yearn for times gone by in other walks of life. Unfortunately, just as those wonderful times past, are denied us by Father-Time so are the great days of Bonanza.

Yet it is not Father-Time who denies us the great days of Bonanza past. No indeed, that is down to a bunch of cunning programmers called @BTG Rep, who since being bought out by Evolution have decided to rinse their customers and bleed them dry of every penny they have.

I have to hand it to you @BTG Rep, a genius move and a master stroke, if ever there was one. A bit like getting everyone addicted to heroine at £100 a throw and then charging them a £1,000 a throw.

Although totally unethical and immoral, just like the example above, you couldn’t give a damn because you are the ones reaping the rewards and we are the fools who keep coming back for more punishment

I think it’s because our brain remembers how it was capable of playing during the first 4 years after it’s creation and trust me it could play well, despite what a lot of people said and thought.

The problem is nowadays, we keep hoping for those days. just like we yearn for times gone by in other walks of life. Unfortunately, just as those wonderful times past, are denied us by Father-Time so are the great days of Bonanza.

Yet it is not Father-Time who denies us the great days of Bonanza past. No indeed, that is down to a bunch of cunning programmers called @BTG Rep, who since being bought out by Evolution have decided to rinse their customers and bleed them dry of every penny they have.

I have to hand it to you @BTG Rep, a genius move and a master stroke, if ever there was one. A bit like getting everyone addicted to heroine at £100 a throw and then charging them a £1,000 a throw.

Although totally unethical and immoral, just like the example above, you couldn’t give a damn because you are the ones reaping the rewards and we are the fools who keep coming back for more punishment.

Very well said, jesus to play a game as long as i did today without one bonus is incredible... Foolish too but for some reason i had to see for myself how bad this classic is gone... Back to golf and football betting i would say. I genuinely believe if they were brought to court now they wouldn't have a chance ??

 

[snorky510238]

Unfortunately they will never be brought to task over any skulduggery, just as no other provider/Casino will. The reason being, they are not answerable to anybody who has a clue what goes on. Even if they were, you could guarantee the judge would find in their favour, as the industry is too big and well protected to ever be brought down.

Like you, I too went above and beyond what is logical, yesterday. I deposited around £400 and mainly played 60p. I guess that’s a wagering through of at least £1,000 and not 1 bonus. It’s beyond scandalous words just fail me.

I decided to make a couple of last deposits at Mr Q and lost the first one so thought, shit or bust, make another and play £2. Problem with Mr Q, it doesn’t update your balance so to save going back in and out of the game, I lowered my stake to 20p as after that spin the balance will update.

At a point of weariness, I left it on 20p and 3 spins later it drops GOLD. After thousands of spins at 60p or higher yes, it kicks me in the teeth. Paid x150 as well. Upped my stake and sure enough it wiped me out rapidly. Deposited again and had the same problem with balance being below stake I wanted so lowered to 20p again, thinking that can’t happen again.

Well, of course it did, GOLD within 10 spins and a retrigger so 17 spins and it paid x35. Upped stake again and wiped out rapidly. Now some people would say that’s just random and the way it goes. Well, it’s all about opinions and mine is, that it’s pure bullshit. The more I see of this game (and I have seem more than most), the more I realise just how disgustingly programmed/rigged it is. Something very similar has happened to me a few times. One in particular that sticks in my mind is a time, when again, the slot was dealing out its usual shite so I dropped to 20p, which I hardly ever do. After not seeing a bonus for about £350 and over 1,000 spins, 5 spins later it drops GOLD back to back. Something I hadn’t seen for about a year.

Call it coincidence, call it what you will but I am starting to wonder just how much these games are tracking every move you make. My deposit to withdrawals ratio has become so predictable, that I can only deem and describe it as controlled. The pattern is too predictable and regular and nothing I do will change it.

I have been through gambling phases before with different crazes. Online poker, FOBT roulette, etc. Eventually I have always reached a point where, as much as I have at one point, loved it, I began to hate it and see through it and shortly afterwards left it behind forever. I have that feeling with online slotting and have for a while. I know in my mind the end is very close for me. There is always a day when I say enough is enough and I can feel that day coming very soon.

 

[goatwack]

There comes a point where most will have seen all this game has to offer, which mostly consists of 'not a lot'.

I'd also bet that Bonanza's cited as one of the main antagonists in making people pack in slotting altogether, such is its ability to chew and spit players out. And all this in its short five-and-a-half year tenure!

One can almost envisage a future Bonanza Anonymous group, consisting of broken players that have fallen out of love with slotting because of its damaging nature

There has to be at least five or more posters that can attribute this game to their apathy towards slotting, or even Megaways itself, you can be sure of that!

Fact is, Bonanza's shitness was likely always there and simply cyclical. As mentioned, those lauding it as the greatest thing since sliced bread soon found themselves whistling to a different tune, as its 'charms' were laid bare for the Ponzi game it truly is. And then along comes another bunch of Bonanza hopefuls, assuredly basking in its glow, until it was their turn....

I'm pretty sure this already bad game became irreparably worse after Evolution's tinkering, that much seems apparent, as evidenced by the lack of meaningful wins thereafter. If I was to play it today I'd have little doubt something was afoot, and that this game will never recapture its 'better' days. Hence why dropping this crud like a hot potato was at the right time by the looks of it.

Guess I should thank BTG if anything? So here goes....

"ta, BTG"

 

[mack341]

You've got to keep the faith brothers

...the game has moved on from using a standard btg issued truncheon to something with barbed wire and rusty spikes

 

[dunover]

Lord 'Dazza' Tennyson:


I
Half a grand, half a grand,
Half a grand down,
All in the slot of doom
Went my five hundred.
“Downward, the night's balance!
Charge for the Tesla!” he said.
Into the slot of doom
Went my five hundred.

II
“Downward, the tight bastard!”
Was there a man not dismayed?
Not though the player knew
Someone had prospered.
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to spin and die.
Into the slot of doom
Went my five hundred.

III
Scatter to right of them,
Scatter to left of them,
Scatter in front of them
Crashed in and thundered;
Laughed at with GOL hell,
Boldly they span and well,
Into the coffers of BTG,
Into the chasm of hell
Went my five hundred.

IV
Flashed all their wallets bare,
Flushed as they won fresh air
Sabring the gamblers there,
Losing a fortune, while
All the forum wondered.
Disguised in the 'potential' smoke
Right through their limits they broke;
Briton and Canadian
Reeled from the Megaways stroke
Shattered and plundered.
Then they withdrew, but not
Not the five hundred.

V
Scatter to right of them,
Scatter to left of them,
Scatter behind them
Crashed in and thundered;
Stormed at with max Megaways hell,
While balance and spirit fell.
They that had gambled so well
Came through the reels of death,
Back from the overdraft of hell,
All that was left of it,
Left of five hundred.

VI
When can the attraction fade?
O the wild claims BTG made!
All the forum wondered.
Honour the attempt they made!
Honour the Fool Brigade,
Minus five hundred!

 

[snorky510238]

Very poetic, Daz . I had written one too but not as complimentary and well worded as your version. No, more along the, “took BTG to the station, to see the engine shunt”, kind of genre. Thanks for saving me the embarrassment of posting mine first.

 

[mcgameboy]

Very poetic, Daz . I had written one too but not as complimentary and well worded as your version. No, more along the, “took BTG to the station, to see the engine shunt”, kind of genre. Thanks for saving me the embarrassment of posting mine first.

It all ended in sheer frustration, the effing rotten cu......??

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

No need to use coarse language in the bonanza thread.

Thank you.

 

[snorky510238]

No need to use coarse language in the bonanza thread.

Thank you.

No need to use it in any thread, is there?

 

[snorky510238]

I don’t care if anybody is offended, I don’t care if I get a ban or a warning…..

You fucking, disgusting, abhorrent, reprehensible, sick, disgraceful, vomit inducing, pathetic, shitting, wanking, vile CUNT of a game.

By the way, how’s the glass house?

Asking for a friend.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yes Snorks was obv tongue in cheek post.

Bonanza brings out the rage in even the most calm of the human generation.

That’s why you shouldn’t play it.

Just as well I don’t as sky have slapped a £100 monthly loss limit on my account!!

Nice of them wasn’t it.

Also been bonus banned from a few other sites, simply because I’m not rowing bonanza everyday anymore.

Nice people these casinos.

 

[snorky510238]

Well, for what it’s worth, I have put a letter together that I will be sending to the relevant organisation(s), concerning the ethics of this game.

I expect there are thousands of people out there, who feel they have been “ripped off” at some point by Casinos/Providers but how many actually do anything about it?

I have been gambling for 40 odd years and have only had a handful of instances, where I have felt cheated and this is one of them.

I 100% believe that underhanded tactics have been employed regarding this game, absolutely no question about it. I have stats and records that more than back up my allegations.

I haven’t sent the email yet so if anyone feels that they have anything of value that I can add to it, then please send me a pm.

Regards

Snorky

 

[Jono777]

I wish you the very best of luck with it and you have my backing 100% mate.

Sadly I feel if it even gets off the starting blocks, a brown envelope or two made be slid here and there and that will be the end of it, unfortunately your brown envelope will not contain untold riches, rather a hastily composed stinking pile of bullshit explaining that the game is running at 96% and you have simply been "unlucky"

 

[snorky510238]

I wish you the very best of luck with it and you have my backing 100% mate.

Sadly I feel if it even gets off the starting blocks, a brown envelope or two made be slid here and there and that will be the end of it, unfortunately your brown envelope will not contain untold riches, rather a hastily composed stinking pile of bullshit explaining that the game is running at 96% and you have simply been "unlucky"

Yes, I am under no illusions mate but it will go to show, that if it is completely ignored, that nobody is answerable for anything.

Just look at this total bullshit and I have hundreds more that are similar. It’s a disgrace, x11 and x16 on a 17 spin bonus.

 

[pinnit2014]

Another ruby fest in the base

Only had 1/2 places to drop as a few reels has 4/5 on them

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Well, for what it’s worth, I have put a letter together that I will be sending to the relevant organisation(s), concerning the ethics of this game.

I expect there are thousands of people out there, who feel they have been “ripped off” at some point by Casinos/Providers but how many actually do anything about it?

I have been gambling for 40 odd years and have only had a handful of instances, where I have felt cheated and this is one of them.

I 100% believe that underhanded tactics have been employed regarding this game, absolutely no question about it. I have stats and records that more than back up my allegations.

I haven’t sent the email yet so if anyone feels that they have anything of value that I can add to it, then please send me a pm.

Regards

Snorky

I don't see how that's going to pan out well for you.

'Dear Sirs,

Over an extended period of time I have lost quite a lot of money on a random game that runs with a 4% house edge, can you please investigate this for me because I think it's cheating'.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Well @snorky510238 , I did say several times over the years you did seem to be running very well on that slot way better than nearly all of us and more than I have. Your just seeing what its been like all along to many of us LOL Coincidence? maybe but as you have been running a lot worse the last 6 months etc I have been running a little better nothing huge but better than my averages so while i feel your pain im not totally sure your not just up against your luck changing.

You say "I have stats and records that more than back up my allegations." but you haven't posted them for us to see? why not? at least we could compare and maybe draw the same conclusions as you? But at the moment your just the same as countless others that have said that something is rigged but not actually posting any data or proof for us all to see. At least give us the chance to back you up by showing us your proof.

 

[mack341]

ukgc:

Even though games must be tested prior to release (and after updates which may affect fairness) it is possible for a design, implementation or operational issue to evade identification during testing or deployment. This may affect the game’s RTP and result in either an overpaying or underpaying product.

You should raise alerts where a game appears to be falling outside the acceptable performance range. You should keep appropriate records as evidence of these processes as well as any more detailed investigations that have been performed as a result of an alert or an escalated customer complaint that warrants such an investigation.

...It will be up to the licensee (often based on the game designer’s instructions) to determine the measurement approach and frequency. One approach could be to perform daily measurements based on the previous 30 days of play, which will ensure fresh data sets are measured as time progresses. Measuring months and months of activity could hide errors that have been introduced by new updates.

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I think the maths have been tweaked to make it more starburst in terms of returns from the feature, it's micro and macro, small changes can greatly affect a player's session but on the macro/long term the rtp stays the same.

 

[goatwack]

I dunno. I can't help but feel this is the time Evolution come clean about their subterfuge, and 'confess' to diddling Bonanza.

If history's taught us anything, it's that they're a highly respected, professional outfit with an unblemished relationship with its customers.

Complaints are looked into, mistakes acknowledged, and a time of 'inward reflection' the end result. God knows they've always set out to 'right the wrongs' of their Roulette, for example, and as a result, the complaints have all but dried up. We can all do better ?

BTG are a company of integrity. Throw in Evolution and you got yourself the greatest duo since Sonny & Cher. If they don't disclose Bonanza's tampering workings the moment they read the complaint I will eat my hat live on air, I make that my solemn pledge ?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I don't see how that's going to pan out well for you.

'Dear Sirs,

Over an extended period of time I have lost quite a lot of money on a random game that runs with a 4% house edge, can you please investigate this for me because I think it's cheating'.

I’m not even sure he’s down on the game(overall) tbf.

 

[snorky510238]

If you can’t post something sensible…….

 

[snorky510238]

Well @snorky510238 , I did say several times over the years you did seem to be running very well on that slot way better than nearly all of us and more than I have. Your just seeing what its been like all along to many of us LOL Coincidence? maybe but as you have been running a lot worse the last 6 months etc I have been running a little better nothing huge but better than my averages so while i feel your pain im not totally sure your not just up against your luck changing.

You say "I have stats and records that more than back up my allegations." but you haven't posted them for us to see? why not? at least we could compare and maybe draw the same conclusions as you? But at the moment your just the same as countless others that have said that something is rigged but not actually posting any data or proof for us all to see. At least give us the chance to back you up by showing us your proof.

Even if I did, it would just get ignored by people who refuse to believe the industry can be anything other than totally above board. I am old enough and wise enough to know when I have been shafted and this is an occasion when there is no doubt.

Proving it however, may be extremely difficult but I will leave that to those who are paid to judge and not CM members who just have an opinion without knowing any facts.