New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[Greigssy]

Just won my probably biggest x stake at WH at 412x
Played 400 spins at 0.20 was dead, upped to 0.40 and won £164 but never took the screenshot.

Then the very first spin after the bonus and GOLD again.
It paid out a whopping £0.60 which is probably my lowest ever return, and they say every spin is random or maybe it was just a glitch in the Matrix.

 

[snorky510238]

I know I always come back to this point but yes it is so hard to imagine (even if you try your very best) that every spin is random. The only way it could be is if it constantly switches between reel sets and some of them are written in such a way that it is almost impossible to win.

Tbh I would rather have predetermined bonus rounds with one set of reels and know where I stand than God knows how many and relying on the right set of reels and the right amount of ways etc.

It definitely has a restriction on the amount of ways or a larger percentage chance of hitting a smaller amount of ways. Notice how many times the first 3 reels are only 2 or 3 deep. That can only be selecting randomly if the pool is skewed. If the pool is skewed/weighted whatever then it’s not strictly random is it. Hypothetically providers could be giving you a 0.00001 chance of a huge hit and in their eyes that qualifies as random. Hang on why did I use the word hypothetically .

P.S. Btg when are you going to start showing a bit of customer care and react to our constant complaints about disconnections. It’s been going on forever and it’s driving me nuts. Tbh it’s getting worse instead of better. Instead of promoting you by posting my wins I will post everyone of these I get until you at least acknowledge THERE IS A PROBLEM.

 

[pinnit2014]

I know I always come back to this point but yes it is so hard to imagine (even if you try your very best) that every spin is random. The only way it could be is if it constantly switches between reel sets and some of them are written in such a way that it is almost impossible to win.

Tbh I would rather have predetermined bonus rounds with one set of reels and know where I stand than God knows how many and relying on the right set of reels and the right amount of ways etc.

It definitely has a restriction on the amount of ways or a larger percentage chance of hitting a smaller amount of ways. Notice how many times the first 3 reels are only 2 or 3 deep. That can only be selecting randomly if the pool is skewed. If the pool is skewed/weighted whatever then it’s not strictly random is it. Hypothetically providers could be giving you a 0.00001 chance of a huge hit and in their eyes that qualifies as random. Hang on why did I use the word hypothetically .

P.S. Btg when are you going to start showing a bit of customer care and react to our constant complaints about disconnections. It’s been going on forever and it’s driving me nuts. Tbh it’s getting worse instead of better. Instead of promoting you by posting my wins I will post everyone of these I get until you at least acknowledge THERE IS A PROBLEM.View attachment 111479

Are you playing the autospin one much? It's going through severe lag one hour, OK the next and then back again - happening at my 2 mainstays; Novibet and Redbet. Dare i say it, the other night i actually left Bonanza for another game with money still it in....yes, i felt dirty afterwards and not in the good way.

Now we have a lag and disconnections. Woohoo.

Maybe the BTG hamster running the wheel has collapsed with Nutnuts reduction in play and the shockwaves it sent through Sydney.

 

[snorky510238]

Is Sydney the place or the name of one of the Hamsters. That’s not a good image.

You won’t believe this but I have never once in all my thousands of spins used the auto. I think it goes back years when I developed a phobia of auto play. Being such a sceptic I used to think once you have pressed auto 50 spins the game knows it can have you over and not pay a penny whereas if you press individually it has to keep you interested.

Ridiculous I know but it’s something I find hard to break. Although recently I found the speed and boredom of Napoleon so excruciating that I have started using auto there but I will say that I have never once during auto hit the random bonus. Obviously must happen but that’s a few thousand spins.

 

[pinnit2014]

Is Sydney the place or the name of one of the Hamsters. That’s not a good image.

You won’t believe this but I have never once in all my thousands of spins used the auto. I think it goes back years when I developed a phobia of auto play. Being such a sceptic I used to think once you have pressed auto 50 spins the game knows it can have you over and not pay a penny whereas if you press individually it has to keep you interested.

Ridiculous I know but it’s something I find hard to break. Although recently I found the speed and boredom of Napoleon so excruciating that I have started using auto there but I will say that I have never once during auto hit the random bonus. Obviously must happen but that’s a few thousand spins.

You've kept that well hidden - i thought you and Trance were related, such is your agreement on most things slot related

 

[sufferinsilence]

Is Sydney the place or the name of one of the Hamsters. That’s not a good image.

You won’t believe this but I have never once in all my thousands of spins used the auto. I think it goes back years when I developed a phobia of auto play. Being such a sceptic I used to think once you have pressed auto 50 spins the game knows it can have you over and not pay a penny whereas if you press individually it has to keep you interested.

Ridiculous I know but it’s something I find hard to break. Although recently I found the speed and boredom of Napoleon so excruciating that I have started using auto there but I will say that I have never once during auto hit the random bonus. Obviously must happen but that’s a few thousand spins.

I find myself not using the auto function alot of the time too, especially when I venture into these €1 and 2 bets. Think for me it has more to do with a sense of control which is bull ofcourse

 

[pinnit2014]

Yeah, normally 40ps for auto, for the 2's and 4's single spins.

If spinning 10's - a new set of pants. And a prayer to God. And then a call to re-mortgage the house.

 

[snorky510238]

I would like to have a go at £2. If you hit it right it could be so rewarding. The fact we hit it wrong more often than not is enough to put me off.

I have ventured to £1 on occasions when I have large wagering to complete but I have never hit a bonus. My bankroll doesn’t really allow for much above 60p (and I need oxygen to go that high).

£10 spins now that’s a different league. I would probably get enough excitement just watching someone else play at that stake I mean just thinking 6oak diamonds = £500. It’s all relevant though as 50 losing spins = £500.

 

[pinnit2014]

I would like to have a go at £2. If you hit it right it could be so rewarding. The fact we hit it wrong more often than not is enough to put me off.

I have ventured to £1 on occasions when I have large wagering to complete but I have never hit a bonus. My bankroll doesn’t really allow for much above 60p (and I need oxygen to go that high).

£10 spins now that’s a different league. I would probably get enough excitement just watching someone else play at that stake I mean just thinking 6oak diamonds = £500. It’s all relevant though as 50 losing spins = £500.

I've had quite a few, certainly in the last few months where i've been running on a profit on it, but there's a massive difference between getting 17x on that, than 40p - mentally it shoots you down more than a 40p round. Sounds obvious but the deflation felt is compounded. 80% of mine on that stake have been useless, 10% not bad but more extra funds for going again and the rest a decent return. But NO MONSTER

 

[paul7388]

I would like to have a go at £2. If you hit it right it could be so rewarding. The fact we hit it wrong more often than not is enough to put me off.

I have ventured to £1 on occasions when I have large wagering to complete but I have never hit a bonus. My bankroll doesn’t really allow for much above 60p (and I need oxygen to go that high).

£10 spins now that’s a different league. I would probably get enough excitement just watching someone else play at that stake I mean just thinking 6oak diamonds = £500. It’s all relevant though as 50 losing spins = £500.
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And here is me thinking i am showing off and highrolling when i up my stakes to 40p

 

[sufferinsilence]

In my opinion 40p is already a big stake and on most games I wouldn't dream of staking higher. Just for some reason Bonanza gives you that sense of security a higher stake won't hurt (it can.. big time ). I haven't done a single spin over 60c now in about a weeks time and I'm perfectly fine with that.

 

[pinnit2014]

First time I have seen this for a while.

Gotta feeling am gonna need 'em

 

[pinnit2014]

Absolute mince. Dead, dead and more dead!

 

[pinnit2014]

Plus side: QF is liking bonus’s

Down side: Er

 

[nutnut]

12am and 5am play time. Pinnit you should go full time streamer, benefits are

1) Free cash from a casino to play
2) Enhanced RTP so more x200+ wins

 

[snorky510238]

Plus side: QF is liking bonus’s

Down side: Er

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There are so many dead spins in the bonus rounds nowadays. We must be getting the worst reel sets every time .

I wonder how many times Bonanza has been tinkered with. It plays differently than when it was first released that’s for sure. You also have to say that everything about slots is controlled.

The more I think about it the more I realise we are being shafted in the sense that we just play along thinking the big win is possible. It very possibly ISN’T or at least not at realistic odds.

I think as a customer we should have the rights to know more detail about the games we are playing and tighter restrictions put in place as to what providers are allowed to get away with.

If these slots work in the way I have been forced to believe then there has to be a few bits of sinister trickery that goes with it. There are too many stats to suggest there isn’t. Here is my take on the “special maths”.

If it’s not predetermined as I have been repeatedly told then it must work something like this. Hypothetically you have 10 different reel sets for the bonus round. The winnings attainable from any reel set are capped by the way the symbols can fall. For example reel set 1 is capped at x25 and that is if you hit the premium screen every time. Reel set 2 is capped at x50 and that’s if you hit premium screen every time and so on until reel set 10 is capped at x50,000 if you hit premium screen every time. The way they are capped is by ensuring a win cannot occur by symbol positions on the reels after a cascade.

Now add another factor. The chances of getting reel set 1 is 20%,reel set 2 15% set 3 10%,..................reel set 10 1%. So even if you are lucky enough to get reel set 10 you still have to rely on being lucky enough to hit large amounts of ways. Which again will be controlled on a scale that gives you a higher chance of hitting 2 symbols on a reel than 7. Plus hitting the right symbols to go with it.

I can’t say for sure that is exactly how it works. It’s just my reckoning on bits of info I have been given but I think I am on the right lines. This would also account for more spins not producing higher wins because if you have set 1 with 32 spins you are going to struggle for a decent hit. On the flip side 12 spins on reel set 10 could be epic.

 

[pinnit2014]

12am and 5am play time. Pinnit you should go full time streamer, benefits are

1) Free cash from a casino to play
2) Enhanced RTP so more x200+ wins

Deal.

As i'm too lazy to smash stuff, you can join me and have full authorisation to wreck the house upon 'Bonus Complete', at my behest.

Edit - oops, first mistake: I'm a streamer so caveat it with 'any bonus under 2000x'

 

[myke35]

So true Bonanza lulling you into a false sense of security it's somehow safe to play at a higher stake which of course it isn't.

Ref different reel sets I'm sure I've read slot designers use different reel sets for different parts of games. Have a look at Book of Sun in free mode. Get the bonus & after your symbol's been chosen watch a fair amount of symbols disappear from the reels before your spins start!

 

[Jono777]

There are so many dead spins in the bonus rounds nowadays. We must be getting the worst reel sets every time .

I wonder how many times Bonanza has been tinkered with. It plays differently than when it was first released that’s for sure. You also have to say that everything about slots is controlled.

The more I think about it the more I realise we are being shafted in the sense that we just play along thinking the big win is possible. It very possibly ISN’T or at least not at realistic odds.

I think as a customer we should have the rights to know more detail about the games we are playing and tighter restrictions put in place as to what providers are allowed to get away with.

If these slots work in the way I have been forced to believe then there has to be a few bits of sinister trickery that goes with it. There are too many stats to suggest there isn’t. Here is my take on the “special maths”.

If it’s not predetermined as I have been repeatedly told then it must work something like this. Hypothetically you have 10 different reel sets for the bonus round. The winnings attainable from any reel set are capped by the way the symbols can fall. For example reel set 1 is capped at x25 and that is if you hit the premium screen every time. Reel set 2 is capped at x50 and that’s if you hit premium screen every time and so on until reel set 10 is capped at x50,000 if you hit premium screen every time. The way they are capped is by ensuring a win cannot occur by symbol positions on the reels after a cascade.

Now add another factor. The chances of getting reel set 1 is 20%,reel set 2 15% set 3 10%,..................reel set 10 1%. So even if you are lucky enough to get reel set 10 you still have to rely on being lucky enough to hit large amounts of ways. Which again will be controlled on a scale that gives you a higher chance of hitting 2 symbols on a reel than 7. Plus hitting the right symbols to go with it.

I can’t say for sure that is exactly how it works. It’s just my reckoning on bits of info I have been given but I think I am on the right lines. This would also account for more spins not producing higher wins because if you have set 1 with 32 spins you are going to struggle for a decent hit. On the flip side 12 spins on reel set 10 could be epic.

Quite probably a lot more to it than this, however this is the basic framework.

I have thought along these lines with all games for years, stopped posting those thoughts due to too many "against" and not many "for" also lack of evidence or proof.

I do feel it is right though, has to be some sort of defining parameters to protect providers and casinos alike

Never these days do I argue the 'random' claim but do strongly believe random within a set of pre-scripted selections.

Its even got to the stage where they don't even bother to disguise it much anymore, simply take a look (as I think I mentioned last week sometime) at Dragon Horn for one example, when the lower symbols are converting regularly and re-trigggers are coming often, it will all of a sudden totally change the reel bands to block any HUGE winning potential and does so often.

 

[slotmaster]

Have you guys ever thought you were effed in the head?

Also we need more Mrs. Pinnit stories!

 

[greylady]

Hardened Bonanza addicts nutnut and pinnit

I have not managed to win on any BTG game since my hit on Donuts £432 on 10p bet in February, must have clawed it all back and more by now - you just never seem able to get ahead and stay ahead on any of their games.

 

[irish-ranger]

Hardened Bonanza addicts nutnut and pinnit

I have not managed to win on any BTG game since my hit on Donuts £432 on 10p bet in February, must have clawed it all back and more by now - you just never seem able to get ahead and stay ahead on any of their games.

I managed to really avoid this slot until a drunken night last month in Scotland which netted me £250 on 20ps.
Now I have put the guts on £600 thru it in the last month I promise myself I'm not gonna play it but every session I'm sucked in like yesterday despoit/opended DOA had 5 spins and before I knew I was seeing g/old/gol/gld/blah blah blah one thing I will say I'm triggering bonuses but nothing to write home about.

 

[greylady]

I managed to really avoid this slot until a drunken night last month in Scotland which netted me £250 on 20ps.
Now I have put the guts on £600 thru it in the last month I promise myself I'm not gonna play it but every session I'm sucked in like yesterday despoit/opended DOA had 5 spins and before I knew I was seeing g/old/gol/gld/blah blah blah one thing I will say I'm triggering bonuses but nothing to write home about.

I never stay on it longer than 100-150 spins now. It's like a troll that suckers you in and robs you blind otherwise - I don't even play it every session but just now and again as BTG's games are soo predictable

 

[thebigs]

About time i hit a decent one on the most frustrating game known to man woman and beast.

 

[Mouche12]

Congrats thebigs, for Bonanza it's a rare win indeed!

 

[sufferinsilence]

Over 1000x, so rare... on most games btw!

 

[nutnut]

About time i hit a decent one on the most frustrating game known to man woman and beast.

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pinnit will be seething.

 

[pinnit2014]

pinnit will be seething.

I know...well done.

Honestly, well done.

Happy for them

Honestly

Seriously

B@@tard

:machinegunner::axeman2::sniper:

 

[irish-ranger]

I never stay on it longer than 100-150 spins now. It's like a troll that suckers you in and robs you blind otherwise - I don't even play it every session but just now and again as BTG's games are soo predictable

Well no BTG tonight for one night only I'm going on the piss lol

 

[pinnit2014]

Impressive:

Gold on last 4

And both above 50x

Living the dream

 

[pinnit2014]

anyone been doing daily willhill summer sizzler promo. anyway got 10 1 pound spins on some pirate game.

won 23 so went to bonanza 1 pound spin hit x237 bonus followed by x270 so was floating around 600 was stopping at 500 so got bored upped to 2 pound hit one more bonus for x150. So in end cashed out 900 from no deposit.

STILL not tempting me back quiet opposite now ive won from nothing I'll avoid it even more. only downside is now its pending till Sunday so might lock myself out the account for 3 days to avoid temptation

Meant to say at the time: if you ask Willhill to disable the reverse withdrawal function they will. Certainly did with mine.

 

[snorky510238]

. When is this going to be sorted. It’s a bleeding nightmare.

 

[goatwack]

Thought I'd see wassup with everyone's favourite ga-

goodbye

 

[slotmaster]

test test 123 are we live?

 

[misstrouble]

. When is this going to be sorted. It’s a bleeding nightmare.View attachment 111535View attachment 111536View attachment 111537View attachment 111538View attachment 111539

I thought it was me having a bad connection.

 

[Jono777]

nope it is awful tonight, abandoned ship after 20 or so spins

 

[pinnit2014]

NYX is now unplayable here - mobile is far worse than desktop: 2 casino's have said they'll escalate it to the provider but the first time was a week or so ago, so not holding breath.

 

[pinnit2014]

BTG's summer holidays will all be paid for by now, so one assumes it's an upgrade to 'streamline payment efficiency' ie. increase bonus wins from 50x, back to 100x

That'll run to October and then it'll be back to normal to account for the Xmas presents.

Ho, Ho, Ho.

 

[snorky510238]

I thought it was me having a bad connection.

I used to think the same but I can play games by other providers at the same site and have no issues. I also see other members posting about the same problem with Btg games. It’s been going on for ages now and nothing changes. Tbh it’s getting worse. There are some sites where I won’t even play Chilli or DHV because it annoys me so much.

 

[misstrouble]

I used to think the same but I can play games by other providers at the same site and have no issues. I also see other members posting about the same problem with Btg games. It’s been going on for ages now and nothing changes. Tbh it’s getting worse. There are some sites where I won’t even play Chilli or DHV because it annoys me so much.

I’m more a table game player (think I’m 50k Total up on Black Jack since i started), But When i play slots i like extra chili... even with the 50x refresh lol

 

[pinnit2014]

I used to think the same but I can play games by other providers at the same site and have no issues. I also see other members posting about the same problem with Btg games. It’s been going on for ages now and nothing changes. Tbh it’s getting worse. There are some sites where I won’t even play Chilli or DHV because it annoys me so much.

I thought it was Novibet, but Redbet's the same and one more. Not sure if the autoplay one runs on more than the NYX as i think there was one (still autoplay) that was fine; so possibly just the NYX version.

Truth be told I'm warming to the non-auto one as it appears to have become a lot more smoother since the start (and less stingy with bonus's, even if they're mainly shite)

 

[snorky510238]

Yeah I don’t know just how many platforms there are. Quite a few but God knows why. I think Slotsmillions has a different one than everyone else (could be wrong) it drops the cascades slightly quicker and to be fair is far smoother than any other.

The thing I notice with that platform is when you load the game it goes to exactly where you left off last time which is strange. Most sites (not all) go to the default page with GOL in view and 60p a spin set. Not sure what that’s all about.

 

[SteveBr]

I’ve noticed since yesterday that the desktop version works fine for me, but the mobile version is utter, utter pants. Every cascade brings a disconnection, even in the base game sometimes.
It’s also just spinning the reels for 6-8 seconds at a time before displaying the result.

This is happening on all casinos and all browsers too.

 

[paul7388]

Bonanza has been doing it anytime i have played it for weeks on Coral WH and VS. Not my most played slot but anytime i play it it spins crap. As for the error connections they have happened for me since the game came out. All BTG slots do it it is a real unstable platform.

Last few weeks i have thought maybe it was my internet as Virgin can be crap but realised it is not.

But another slot Genie Jackpot Megaways is also playing crap. You have about 5 spins then a really slow spin it makes you think the Genie is going to appear but got used to the fact it is just the game spinning slow. Rea;;y annoying about 4 spins go okay then one takes seconds to spin and pattern keeps repeating.

 

[mcgameboy]

Well I tried nutnut's "golden half hour" strategy for the...uhm....."Nth time" last night.
£50 in at Sky Vegas, another £50 at Bet365. £1 spins.
Deposits made some time between 11.45 and 11.50 (yes, really)

At SV, I busted without a feature, but was (very) briefly ahead.

Bet365 - different story. Four features in the space of 1 hour and 1 minute. ALL of them paid over 100x (101x, 247x, 142x and 183x).
Oh yeah...the 183x feature came just 3 spins after I upped my bets to £2 spins. £50 had become over £700.

I then tried something I've never done before....on any game. EVER. £4 spins. GULP!!!!

Didn't feel comfortable AT ALL. Stopped after 50 spins, but "only" lost £50.
Dropped back to £2 spins. And when I was at £600, I cashed out the lot.

A rare success story for me. If I have any brains at all, I'll avoid it until sometime around the 21st August.

Which means I'll probably have another go tonight....at around 11.45pm.

 

[nutnut]

Well I tried nutnut's "golden half hour" strategy for the...uhm....."Nth time" last night.
£50 in at Sky Vegas, another £50 at Bet365. £1 spins.
Deposits made some time between 11.45 and 11.50 (yes, really)

At SV, I busted without a feature, but was (very) briefly ahead.

Bet365 - different story. Four features in the space of 1 hour and 1 minute. ALL of them paid over 100x (101x, 247x, 142x and 183x).
Oh yeah...the 183x feature came just 3 spins after I upped my bets to £2 spins. £50 had become over £700.

I then tried something I've never done before....on any game. EVER. £4 spins. GULP!!!!

Didn't feel comfortable AT ALL. Stopped after 50 spins, but "only" lost £50.
Dropped back to £2 spins. And when I was at £600, I cashed out the lot.

A rare success story for me. If I have any brains at all, I'll avoid it until sometime around the 21st August.

Which means I'll probably have another go tonight....at around 11.45pm.

Doesn't work on Skyvegas, but glad to see it paid off on other site

 

[goatwack]

Yet it's at SkyVegas the game runs like a dreamboat

*present technical circumstances excepted

 

[nutnut]

Yet it's at SkyVegas the game runs like a dreamboat

*present technical circumstances excepted

skyvegas was one site that totally felt random. it was good and bad randomly. it was why i stopped playing at the site lol. and yes one of few that ran super quick and no issues.

 

[mack341]

I'm supposed to be abstaining from slots but had a little flutter last night at coral...and bonanza was utter pants, slow spins, hardly any cascade wins beyond 1 drop down. All these smegaways and the game was struggling to give me a 1.5 x win. I've now chucked about £170 its way at 20p with not 1 friggin bonus, sorry bonanza fans but what a pile of shite it is

 

[goatwack]

Smegaways! Of course!

Mack wins Bonanza today