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[Schind]

One more quick session before bed. 200 spins at 40p.
2 bonuses. First one 16.25x then even worse - got £6.50 but £6.20 of that was the winning spin that led to the bonus. 12 extra spins - one win @30p.
Luckily I've had a good day and can smile about it. Another day and I would have kicked something really hard!

 

[gonzo fonso]

i went 5 months dry on this,yes was mostly playing at genesis global could not hit a barn door,then its like 2 buses turn up at once,thats slots for ya

 

[snorky510238]

i went 5 months dry on this,yes was mostly playing at genesis global could not hit a barn door,then its like 2 buses turn up at once,thats slots for ya

It’s not though is it really. It’s called compensatory, shithousery, at which BTG are the masters.

 

[brianmon]

Most of this (£253) came from a load of Kings, but just on x7 multiplier
The thing that makes this win even better is that I started with some freespins winnings of £5.75 and was down to £1, when this dropped in. So never even made a deposit

1388x

 

[dunover]

Most of this (£253) came from a load of Kings, but just on x7 multiplier
The thing that makes this win even better is that I started with some freespins winnings of £5.75 and was down to £1, when this dropped in. So never even made a deposit

1388x

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This annoying me now, best in 21 months (since I last hit 1000x plus) I had was just over 500x, once, and I play it every 2-3 days on average. But good hit, nice to cash a couple of ton out for 20p stakes.

 

[snorky510238]

Just for the record, has anyone hit 4 scatters in the max ways lately?

What I noticed was that: 1. It showed up way less frequently than it did about 18 months ago.
2. On the occasions I did see it, I didn’t hit a single “big win”.
3. I must’ve seen over 100 consecutive, without seeing a single scatter. Wondering if that possibility has now been removed?

 

[hogexd]

Just for the record, has anyone hit 4 scatters in the max ways lately?

What I noticed was that: 1. It showed up way less frequently than it did about 18 months ago.
2. On the occasions I did see it, I didn’t hit a single “big win”.
3. I must’ve seen over 100 consecutive, without seeing a single scatter. Wondering if that possibility has now been removed?

I’ve noticed a big increase in it giving G.O.L a lot more, sometimes even a couple times in a row where they all fall in the first few reels, but the 4th scatter never seems to drop even with cascades, even though the setup makes it look like it should easily be GOLD or GOLD +5 even.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Watch Dazzas vids over the last 18 months.

You’ll soon change ur opinion.

 

[StuLawre]

Just for the record, has anyone hit 4 scatters in the max ways lately?

What I noticed was that: 1. It showed up way less frequently than it did about 18 months ago.
2. On the occasions I did see it, I didn’t hit a single “big win”.
3. I must’ve seen over 100 consecutive, without seeing a single scatter. Wondering if that possibility has now been removed?

Believe it or not I hit this for the very first time yesterday….the first screen had no scatters but then a number of cascades dropped in the +5 as well. Cascade paid 40ishX. First spin of free spins retriggered, ended up with 22 multiplier but in total bonus amounted to just over 200x. Not too shabby but could have been so much better!

 

[snorky510238]

I am pretty sure that scatters never land on the initial spin of the 117 (@dunover might confirm). 40x off of the initial spin so a bit over x160 off of the 22 spins that followed, so extremely poor to be honest. Still it’s about what to expect off this heap of shite nowadays.

 

[dunover]

I am pretty sure that scatters never land on the initial spin of the 117 (@dunover might confirm). 40x off of the initial spin so a bit over x160 off of the 22 spins that followed, so extremely poor to be honest. Still it’s about what to expect off this heap of shite nowadays.

No, they don't land 4 at once, but rarely they will gradually appear on the right kind of spin with plenty of cascade wins, once I had +5 on a max-ways trigger. As we know, there is a version used at SkyVegas (at least when I played there) and other places where scatters don't appear at all in max-ways spins. I don't know if that's still the case at SkyVegas. You alse tend to find when features trigger with wins of say more than 10x before the spins start, then the results are crap. My record was a 137x base game win during the trigger and IIRC it paid 17x for the spins. You did quite well getting 160x ont hat trigger, even though it was +10 spins.

 

[snorky510238]

Oddly enough, when this thread was constantly asking the immoral thieving scum aka BTG, whether the Sky version was different, the game was taken down and upon its return, lo and behold, I hit GOLD in the 117.

 

[The Viking]

When you only have 4 spins left from a $30 deposit and it gives you 5 scatters then few spins later another bonus
withdrew the lot

 

[Scatter]

600x+
I started with U$1 free from partycasino

 

[brianmon]

Rather disappointing for the number of spins (17 to start then 2 retriggers).
But I was just 2 spins away from busting out

409x

 

[Schind]

It's been a right sod to me at the past couple of days.
I had 15 winning 2 or 3 hundred spin sessions out of 16 now, all of a sudden, I've had ten losing sessions on the trot. Two of my last three bonuses have been lower than 5x and the base game's gone to pot as well.
I'm gonna give a rest for a few days so it can get over whatever issue it has with me.

 

[Slotter]

I'm quite surprised really to see people are still playing this game after it seemed to be nerfed about a year ago by consistently adding in good size batches of back to back dead spins that nullify most bonus rounds. Maybe the new norm for the slot has just been adopted as new by new comers?

 

[snorky510238]

Well, the thread is progressing at the rate of 2 pages a month. It used to be 10 pages per day so it gives a fair perspective of how unpopular the game is today. It was definitely nerfed, beyond recognition. BTG should be shot with a ball of their own shit, from point blank range.

 

[johnnymcc1966]

Well, the thread is progressing at the rate of 2 pages a month. It used to be 10 pages per day so it gives a fair perspective of how unpopular the game is today. It was definitely nerfed, beyond recognition. BTG should be shot with a ball of their own shit, from point blank range.

The problem is that BTG are still operating at maximum RTP while releasing mostly shit alternatives to Bonanza. The RTP attracts the savvy slotter and the game mechanics are still popular.

 

[snorky510238]

They may be still operating at max rtp (although I would love to see genuine proof) but they have changed how the rtp is achieved. The game became virtually impossible to bonus and virtually all the big base hits have been removed.

The game became an absolute joke since Evolution took over, along with their other original games like DHV. As so many of their recent releases completely flopped, they had to cash in somewhere and they chose to hit Bonanza. They are fizzling out anyway. One trick ponies and once the audience has worked out how the trick is done, they stop paying your wages.

 

[johnnymcc1966]

They may be still operating at max rtp (although I would love to see genuine proof) but they have changed how the rtp is achieved. The game became virtually impossible to bonus and virtually all the big base hits have been removed.

The game became an absolute joke since Evolution took over, along with their other original games like DHV. As so many of their recent releases completely flopped, they had to cash in somewhere and they chose to hit Bonanza. They are fizzling out anyway. One trick ponies and once the audience has worked out how the trick is done, they stop paying your wages.

I dont disagree re the bonus distribution and payout but I wonder how they got around it? The change to Evolution was the turning point for me. The rot began there.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

The thing that no one's been able to adequately explain about Bonanza is if it's been changed, then what aspect of it has been changed, and how? And for what reason?

RTP is the same, 96%, so it's not that.

Feature frequency still appears to be the same old insane 1/460 number, so it's not that.

A couple of months ago someone posted their numbers from long extended periods of play without getting a bonus, and RTP came in at 76%, which is bang on what the base game RTP in Bonanza is known to be. (And if base game RTP is the same, then the RTP allocation for the bonus must be the same as well.)

At that point all we've got is volatility, and they could have messed with either or both of the base game and/or the bonus round, but then we come to the other question, why bother?

I've been reading this thread for years and it seems to me that Bonanza has always been a weird proposition, thanks to that bonkers 1/460 feature frequency and large allocation of RTP to the base game - it's always been capable of weird shit, and it's still doing it today.

I mean, I'm not saying they haven't messed with it, but as per the list above, there's not really much they could have actually messed with!

 

[snorky510238]

There’s a lot they could mess with. Increase the amount of small meaningless wins dramatically, which they have done. Take the top off the big base hits, which they have done. Increase the amount of spins it takes to hit a bonus. That is for certain. Stick the odd x5,000 (one in 1,000 or more), in the bonus round and remove all the middle ground, which has happened too.

The reason for doing it is obvious. When a lot of bonus rounds were paying x200-x500, there would be a lot of people making withdrawals. Remove those possibilities and replace with a x5,000 and only one person is withdrawing, whilst the rest get continually shafted.

At its peak, I was probably making between 10-15 withdrawals per week. Not saying I was winning a fortune but I consistently made those withdrawals and there are several members here who could back that up, as I was PM’ing my results, daily.

I went from that to not being able to make a single withdrawal in a fortnight and this wasn’t the odd occasion, it became the “standard”.

So nobody and I mean nobody can tell me the game hasn’t been nerfed beyond recognition. I will post my stats when I have time and you’ll be in no doubt something changed.

Unfortunately, I am an extremely busy person so it may take months to trawl through everything but I’ll get around to it. Nearly 5,000 bonus rounds is a lot to scrutinise.

 

[Schind]

I'm quite surprised really to see people are still playing this game after it seemed to be nerfed about a year ago by consistently adding in good size batches of back to back dead spins that nullify most bonus rounds. Maybe the new norm for the slot has just been adopted as new by new comers?

I don't know if you're implying I'm a new comer but, as your post was directly under mine can I just say that being new to a forum doesn't make you new to slots. I've been playing fruit machines since about 1980, back in the days when 72 - 74% RTP was standard. You youngsters moaning about figures such as 92% don't know you're born!
Bonanza is the game I play the most, during the holidays I've averaged over 1000 spins a day, and I'm in profit over the last 25000 spins. I'm not playing it for the money though, it's for entertainment value and Bonanza entertains me. I've been playing it online for about three years and it's still my go-to game. I usually play Megaways as other slots apart from Slingo bore the hell out of me.
Some people on this forum love the Pragmatic games. They bore me rigid but I'm not gonna have a go at them if that's how they get their entertainment.

 

[pinnit2014]

As someone with no axe to grind and no skin in the game - left Bonanza in 2022 (shame about the previous 4 years) actually up courtesy of a 5k x hit and a few between 1-2k x, my screenshots show a lot more of 300-600x hits in the period of say 2018-2021 but had more 1000x hits in the last 18months to 2 years. Might well be the same RTP but the variance model has felt like it's been ramped up - Like Snorky says, a chunk of those middle hitting X wins have been gobbled up and put in a sink hole and almost feels as if substituted with the >1000x hits.

RTP might be the same but does that make it the 'same' game - some will say yes, as same RTP, other will say of course not - pick your poison I'd go with the latter.