New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[goatwack]

This game is good in the sense that it pisses players off so much that it puts them off slotting in general.

The amount lost to this beast daily must be astronomical, for a select few to win on it. It's the most thankless slot probably ever devised.

BTG must take responsible gambling seriously because once the initial wow factor wears off with their games people end up feeling cheated by their unfulfilled potential. It's like dropping money into a bottomless pit with their machinations

 

[greylady]

This game is good in the sense that it pisses players off so much that it puts them off slotting in general.

The amount lost to this beast daily must be astronomical, for a select few to win on it. It's the most thankless slot probably ever devised.

BTG must take responsible gambling seriously because once the initial wow factor wears off with their games people end up feeling cheated by their unfulfilled potential. It's like dropping money into a bottomless pit with their machinations

When it first came out, we were seeing almost weekly big wins and it seems that they are few and far between now, it makes you wonder if BTG has changed the game since it's original release and now that people are hooked.

I played it last night and it just kept me going in a constant loop, keeping me at my deposit amount, three bonus's all bringing me back to what I deposited. I can only play it for short bursts now as I find it incredibly boring when it goes for 700 spins or more waiting for the bonus to drop in for a poor result.

 

[Tirilej]

When it first came out, we were seeing almost weekly big wins and it seems that they are few and far between now, it makes you wonder if BTG has changed the game since it's original release and now that people are hooked.

I played it last night and it just kept me going in a constant loop, keeping me at my deposit amount, three bonus's all bringing me back to what I deposited. I can only play it for short bursts now as I find it incredibly boring when it goes for 700 spins or more waiting for the bonus to drop in for a poor result.

Could you please explain to me why BTG would risk their license by changing the game, and in what way they would do it, because I fail to understand the reason for it?

 

[Jono777]

Could you please explain to me why BTG would risk their license by changing the game, and in what way they would do it, because I fail to understand the reason for it?

Didn't realise they had one

In all fairness I do feel games churn out well over the expected TRTP when first released to catch players attention and then settle down as time goes on / more spins are played.

Nothing dodgy, nothing illegal, nothing they can get in trouble for just part of their design

 

[Harry_BKK]

Could you please explain to me why BTG would risk their license by changing the game, and in what way they would do it, because I fail to understand the reason for it?

They updated the game a few weeks or month ago. E.g. you have now tons of G-O on reel 1 + 2. Or the Sound and the Autoplay options (when they released the update you could only go one way with the Autoplay options, they corrected that since)

This all does not mean that they changed RTP or math model as that would be a huuuuge job considering the complexity of this game. But they made it even more addictive, just my "feeling".

 

[incrediblestuff]

Didn't realise they had one

In all fairness I do feel games churn out well over the expected TRTP when first released to catch players attention and then settle down as time goes on / more spins are played.

Nothing dodgy, nothing illegal, nothing they can get in trouble for just part of their design

Hey bud..seen this often, and it's only logical, as new games are played in a much higher volume in the first weeks of release..depending on it's succes it will slowly but surely 'normalize'

Fact is, that BTG Games are quite popular, and the fellow forum members here that keep playing them, seem to produce the expected amount of decent hits, just judging by this thread and winners screens alone...

But you'll see the same with all provider's Games - upon release everybody is playing them, and naturally you'll see quite a few players posting some big or decent wins, but then later on, it becomes more of an 'occasional' event...

The only noticeable thing regarding BTG, is that their Games are all very high variance....
Expect to lose, don't play them if you want playtime or a decent win every other session

That's not a 'tip' for you of course, but more some balancing reflection for any newbies reading this thread..

 

[greylady]

Could you please explain to me why BTG would risk their license by changing the game, and in what way they would do it, because I fail to understand the reason for it?

I didn't say they actually had changed the game, I know they updated it since it's release and I am not so much meaning the RTP but more the way the reels play.

Whoops just saw Harry's post, kind of what I was getting at.

 

[Tirilej]

They updated the game a few weeks or month ago. E.g. you have now tons of G-O on reel 1 + 2. Or the Sound and the Autoplay options (when they released the update you could only go one way with the Autoplay options, they corrected that since)

This all does not mean that they changed RTP or math model as that would be a huuuuge job considering the complexity of this game. But they made it even more addictive, just my "feeling".

I was just a bit ironical with my question. I'm so tired over people believing, thinking, suspecting, feeling accusing casinos and game providers and everyone there is to blame all odd things they imagine. They are doing that and moaning and complaining instead of figuring out how things work. Instead of asking. Instead of learning.
I'm not surprised any longer for having to read that sentence. I've done it a thousand times in this forum and other places over the years. I guess it's the human mind and it will continue

 

[Harry_BKK]

I was just a bit ironical with my question. I'm so tired over people believing, thinking, suspecting, feeling accusing casinos and game providers and everyone there is to blame all odd things they imagine. They are doing that and moaning and complaining instead of figuring out how things work. Instead of asking. Instead of learning.
I'm not surprised any longer for having to read that sentence. I've done it a thousand times in this forum and other places over the years. I guess it's the human mind and it will continue

You're right.

However, the introduction of HTML5 has given game providers the opportunity/freedom to display anything they like on the reels which, in my view, can be used or misused to increase addiction capability. And all that is within the licensed RTP and math model, has nothing to do with the game being rigged, updated, changed or anything else. They gauge finely how many near-misses (be it bonus round or big win) a player will endure on a slot or what events will find their way into a player's subconsciousness and align their displayed spin results with that.

I follow job adverts at game providers quite regularly and next to game developers they all are hiring psychologists. Hmmm, why would that be needed for a "normal" slot game?

 

[Tirilej]

You're right.

However, the introduction of HTML5 has given game providers the opportunity to display anything they like on the reels which, in my view, can be used or misused to increase addiction capability. And all that is within the licensed RTP and math model, has nothing to do with the game being rigged, updated, changed or anything else. They gauge finely how many near-misses (be it bonus round or big win) a player will endure on a slot or what events will find their way into a player's subconsciousness and align their displayed spin results with that.

I follow job adverts at game providers quite regularly and next to game developers they all are hiring psychologists. Hmmm, why would that be needed for a "normal" slot game?

It's all in our minds so psychology will work in all areas.
It's like they are counting what words are mostly used in an email and if those words make people read them and enter the casino. That is unfortunately true
We have to learn to see through it, that's all.

Thank you Harry for having the knowledge you have and for being so good in explaining things, when I completly fail :notworthy

 

[greylady]

You're right.

However, the introduction of HTML5 has given game providers the opportunity/freedom to display anything they like on the reels which, in my view, can be used or misused to increase addiction capability. And all that is within the licensed RTP and math model, has nothing to do with the game being rigged, updated, changed or anything else. They gauge finely how many near-misses (be it bonus round or big win) a player will endure on a slot or what events will find their way into a player's subconsciousness and align their displayed spin results with that.

I follow job adverts at game providers quite regularly and next to game developers they all are hiring psychologists. Hmmm, why would that be needed for a "normal" slot game?

Sorry but in my mind a psychologist is someone who heals the mind and doesn't entertain the 'mind games' that some slots display today - to me, it is against all ethics of who a psychologist is and doesn't sit well with me but I suppose a grand salary would be enticing to some people.

I am not saying I am right but I have strong morals and ethics and money would never buy me

 

[incrediblestuff]

Sorry but in my mind a psychologist is someone who heals the mind and doesn't entertain the 'mind games' that some slots display today - to me, it is against all ethics of who a psychologist is and doesn't sit well with me but I suppose a grand salary would be enticing to some people.

I am not saying I am right but I have strong morals and ethics and money would never buy me

There's no right or wrong here..Harry was merely posting an observation, which i can confirm, and it's not limited to the Casino Industry.
The distinction you could make here, is that a 'proper' psychologist would be someone that focuses on healing the mind, but those are a rare breed, i'm afraid.

Totally overrated in terms of profession also, as most of them don't even have a grip on themselves...
It's an interesting science, but very limited in it's factual achievements, since it's origination..

All they do in general, is replace the good 'ole 'listening ear' or 'shoulder to cry on' which is all any regular troubled person needs really, and if they happen to come across real mental issues, they will just prescribe heavy, personality changing med's, of which the long time workings have not even been properly researched..

It's a bloody mess.

The irony is, that in Casino technology they are more useful then anywhere else
Scandalous really!

 

[goatwack]

The industry is worth billions, of course psychologists would turn to the dark side if paid well enough.

Designers are constantly looking to perfect their slots and make them the ultimate coin munchers. Every jingle, every crappy 1x win animation, it's all part of the charade.

This is why most of us can't fathom why we even play or like Bonanza. I mean I hate rolling reels games, and the gameplay is predictably bad, even when it pretends to hold your balance for a while.

And of course most have had some type of decent win on it & seen the screenshots too, it's just unfortunate that for the most part the game plays like dog.

It's as if we're BTG's human test subjects and sponsors at the same time. Now that psychology :bubbles::baby:

 

[greylady]

The industry is worth billions, of course psychologists would turn to the dark side if paid well enough.

Designers are constantly looking to perfect their slots and make them the ultimate coin munchers. Every jingle, every crappy 1x win animation, it's all part of the charade.

This is why most of us can't fathom why we even play or like Bonanza. I mean I hate rolling reels games, and the gameplay is predictably bad, even when it pretends to hold your balance for a while.

And of course most have had some type of decent win on it & seen the screenshots too, it's just unfortunate that for the most part the game plays like dog.

It's as if we're BTG's human test subjects and sponsors at the same time. Now that psychology :bubbles::baby:

They are actually condoning a practice that causes an addiction in itself (gambling) and needs therapy or treatment in an attempt to remove (or at least control) that addiction - it's incomprehensible to me and abhorrent to the profession as far as I am concerned - now that is only my opinion, I am not expecting everyone to agree with me.

Where there is money, there is greed!

 

[nutnut]

I was just a bit ironical with my question. I'm so tired over people believing, thinking, suspecting, feeling accusing casinos and game providers and everyone there is to blame all odd things they imagine. They are doing that and moaning and complaining instead of figuring out how things work. Instead of asking. Instead of learning.
I'm not surprised any longer for having to read that sentence. I've done it a thousand times in this forum and other places over the years. I guess it's the human mind and it will continue

You seem to post constantly picking out people for believing whatever they believe. But you're just as clueless as the rest of us. By that I mean we would never know what truly goes on behind the scenes unless you was involved in the making or distributing of the games/casinos. It is human nature and in every other sport or activity that involves the ability to be bet on has had corruption or cheating. Name me one sport that has not had cheating. So I find your posts equally as tiring constantly defending casinos. I can't quite work out if you're just one of those people that loves to argue a point no matter what or have shares in casinos. Frankly it doesn't matter.

But you or I have no clue if cheating happens in slots, but given the nature of the industry and sums of money involved I personally feel it is not so out of the question as you constantly make out.

Slots should be treated as rigged money eating machines, because they legally are just that.

 

[interlog]

You seem to post constantly picking out people for believing whatever they believe. But you're just as clueless as the rest of us. By that I mean we would never know what truly goes on behind the scenes unless you was involved in the making or distributing of the games/casinos. It is human nature and in every other sport or activity that involves the ability to be bet on has had corruption or cheating. Name me one sport that has not had cheating. So I find your posts equally as tiring constantly defending casinos. I can't quite work out if you're just one of those people that loves to argue a point no matter what or have shares in casinos. Frankly it doesn't matter.

But you or I have no clue if cheating happens in slots, but given the nature of the industry and sums of money involved I personally feel it is not so out of the question as you constantly make out.

Slots should be treated as rigged money eating machines, because they legally are just that.

Hence the reason why a win should be celebrated and a loss expected. If not, don't gamble.

As for slot machines rigged, if that were to be the case there would be a whistle blower by now. There are sure to be disgruntled ex employees somewhere.

 

[greylady]

Hence the reason why a win should be celebrated and a loss expected. If not, don't gamble.

As for slot machines rigged, if that were to be the case there would be a whistle blower by now. There are sure to be disgruntled ex employees somewhere.

....and even more casino's with deep pockets! To whistle blow or to never work again, that is the question??

I don't so much think slots are rigged but becoming harder to trigger the bonus meaning more spins - either way you look at it, it's not for the benefit of the player but to further line those deep pockets.

 

[nutnut]

Hence the reason why a win should be celebrated and a loss expected. If not, don't gamble.

As for slot machines rigged, if that were to be the case there would be a whistle blower by now. There are sure to be disgruntled ex employees somewhere.

But thats just it they're rigged, rigged to take a profit. So thats why I said legally rigged. The illegally rigged accusations is it goes on way more than the RTP suggests. That is the discussion. The fact we gamble on something that is designed to always win, probably makes us all stupid in the first place. But we all have that delusion we can "win" or hit big.

 

[Jono777]

I will go as far to say everything is rigged in some way or another.

If there is fraud in higher levels of government, match fixing in the Premiership, surely there is the odd "brown envelope" passed around in the gaming industry.

The choice is now ours whether we believe, dis-believe or ignore. The scale I could not comment.

There has been over 20 "emptiers" I have been privy to over the years on land based slots, 95% of which were put there by the programmers / employees, I can only think to benefit themselves and close family & friends, this in turn obviously affected the RTP and the next handful of unfortunate visitors to those particular machines stood a very good chance of losing.

Sure the scale is much larger online but If I say to say yes or no, then Yes would win every time, there are "back doors", "tell's" and other advantage play scenarios within certain slots programs.

Now the main point is, knowing all this, am I bothered and will I stop playing?

Short answer is No, I still feel I get a fair roll of the dice 7/10, I still get the odd decent play time for my deposit, I still get the occasional withdrawal and (although not as much as I used to) I still enjoy it (for now )

Truth has already been mention in some posts above

1) We will NEVER truly know for sure, EVER!

2) Where there is money there is greed!

 

[nutnut]

I will go as far to say everything is rigged in some way or another.

If there is fraud in higher levels of government, match fixing in the Premiership, surely there is the odd "brown envelope" passed around in the gaming industry.

The choice is now ours whether we believe, dis-believe or ignore. The scale I could not comment.

There has been over 20 "emptiers" I have been privy to over the years on land based slots, 95% of which were put there by the programmers / employees, I can only think to benefit themselves and close family & friends, this in turn obviously affected the RTP and the next handful of unfortunate visitors to those particular machines stood a very good chance of losing.

Sure the scale is much larger online but If I say to say yes or no, then Yes would win every time, there are "back doors", "tell's" and other advantage play scenarios within certain slots programs.

Now the main point is, knowing all this, am I bothered and will I stop playing?

Short answer is No, I still feel I get a fair roll of the dice 7/10, I still get the odd decent play time for my deposit, I still get the occasional withdrawal and (although not as much as I used to) I still enjoy it (for now )

Truth has already been mention in some posts above

1) We will NEVER truly know for sure, EVER!

2) Where there is money there is greed!

But thats because they want you to taste the odd win and keep thinking it can be done over and over. If someone always lost they would soon give up. Key is to give you a taste of something you will 9 times out of 10 not reproduce.

I am in control of my gambling, but the slot industry should be banned. It's not like other normal betting, this is purely a big mental mind head fuck. Please don't tell me slots is like betting on football or horse racing(not you Jon, i mean others) as it's not even remotely the same.

 

[incrediblestuff]

But thats because they want you to taste the odd win and keep thinking it can be done over and over. If someone always lost they would soon give up. Key is to give you a taste of something you will 9 times out of 10 not reproduce.

I am in control of my gambling, but the slot industry should be banned. It's not like other normal betting, this is purely a big mental mind head fuck. Please don't tell me slots is like betting on football or horse racing(not you Jon, i mean others) as it's not even remotely the same.

Just some food for thought, there has been more confirmed rigging (cheating - not allowed) in the sports industry/sports-betting scene then in any other gambling pastime.

I don't really believe you are in full control of your gambling...and apparently you don't either, because a lot of your posts are oozing with disbelief and astonishment over the clear rigged-ness..yet you still keep playing the games you post about (after repeatedly saying you wouldn't) and note that i am a pothead, with a bad memory, which means that the fact i am remembering this, proves you have said it a LOT of times before

If you question their integrity and still play them, then either you aren't in control or...making some odd decisions.

 

[nutnut]

Just some food for thought, there has been more confirmed rigging (cheating - not allowed) in the sports industry/sports-betting scene then in any other gambling pastime.

I don't really believe you are in full control of your gambling...and apparently you don't either, because a lot of your posts are oozing with disbelief and astonishment over the clear rigged-ness..yet you still keep playing the games you post about (after repeatedly saying you wouldn't) and note that i am a pothead, with a bad memory, which means that the fact i am remembering this, proves you have said it a LOT of times before

If you question their integrity and still play them, then either you aren't in control or...making some odd decisions.

I'm a gambler, every time I deposit for slots I expect to lose it. I don't play thinking I can win or beat it, when I gamble on sports I have different mindset. I've had the odd big win on slots, so yes you can win big, very unlikely but possible.

But yes I know the slots are rigged, not for me to lose personally but for everyone to lose over a long period of time. I play in the hope I occasionally hit the odd big win. But still the industry is poison. Least sports gambling funds the sports I love. No one loves slots, least I hope not. It might be fun but love it?

 

[pinnit2014]

Those evil slot providers will be rigging emissions next

 

[incrediblestuff]

I'm a gambler, every time I deposit for slots I expect to lose it. I don't play thinking I can win or beat it, when I gamble on sports I have different mindset. I've had the odd big win on slots, so yes you can win big, very unlikely but possible.

But yes I know the slots are rigged, not for me to lose personally but for everyone to lose over a long period of time. I play in the hope I occasionally hit the odd big win. But still the industry is poison. Least sports gambling funds the sports I love. No one loves slots, least I hope not. It might be fun but love it?

Well, if you know that, then that's good, and playing with that mindset is fine.

Sportsbetting is also similarly, and legally 'rigged' in advantage of the bookies and Casinos, there are high end servers with specialized software and bot's calculating the best odds constantly, (which are then analyzed/and/or scrutinized by 'experts') for the Casinos to offer of course, and as such getting a 'big' win either means risking a really big sum on a bet with low odds (which are your best chances in general) or winning a combo-bet, with combined odds (accumulators) or picking a big underdog with insane odds with lower sums.

As you stated, if you only pick on the teams you actually like, that's a different story indeed, but for the general playerbase it's all about the money, and in that regard, it's pretty much all the same, whether you play slots, sportsbetting, table games, or whatever...the house always wins. Legal.

There is indeed a level of sickness to this industry, but so is drinking alcohol, using smartdrugs, coffee and whatnot, it's all based on a tax model for the government in one way or another, and there are billions of dollars in play, and knowing all this, i still am o.k. with my odds.

The responsible gambling thing..that's the hot topic right now, and if you find slots like these BTG games for instance, are too big of a mindfuck, and too much to handle for most people, you should try to appeal to the UKGC, to do something about it.

If not, then just enjoy their slots

I do love slotting, it's one of my favorite pastimes, especially when i'm sleeping

 

[Jono777]

To lighten the mood slightly, I cannot believe my previous post didn't even attract a single 'like'

This Bonanza thread is rigged I tell ya

 

[goatwack]

To lighten the mood slightly, I cannot believe my previous post didn't even attract a single 'like'

This Bonanza thread is rigged I tell ya

I'm not gonna count the number of my posts you haven't liked or thanked. But it's in the hundreds

But in the interest of fair play I will give you the holy trinity on that post you mentioned

 

[paul7388]

To lighten the mood slightly, I cannot believe my previous post didn't even attract a single 'like'

This Bonanza thread is rigged I tell ya

FFS Jon.

To be honest i could not even be arsed reading your post again but what the hell i gave you the like and thank anyway. Wont make a habit of it tho lol

 

[Jono777]

I'm not gonna count the number of my posts you haven't liked or thanked. But it's in the hundreds

But in the interest of fair play I will give you the holy trinity on that post you mentioned

One does apologise sir, I do try and thank em all

I'll try and be extra vigilant moving forward

See how we were mentioned in the same post earlier this week as the funniest blokes here on CM - You maybe but my SOH comes from my Dad and is 1960's based

Getting back on topic, played £10 on Bonanza earlier, nowt past the 'G', rigged, honest!

Time for bed Jon, Sharpish!


Edit: If ever we meet, beers on me £10 paysafe voucher for the none drinkers

 

[goatwack]

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One does apologise sir, I do try and thank em all

I'll try and be extra vigilant moving forward

See how we were mentioned in the same post earlier this week as the funniest blokes here on CM - You maybe but my SOH comes from my Dad and is 1960's based

Getting back on topic, played £10 on Bonanza earlier, nowt past the 'G', rigged, honest!

Time for bed Jon, Sharpish!


Edit: If ever we meet, beers on me £10 paysafe voucher for the none drinkers

Not a problem. I won't let it get between us, cuddle cakes

 

[lockinlove]

To lighten the mood slightly, I cannot believe my previous post didn't even attract a single 'like'

This Bonanza thread is rigged I tell ya

Say it loud and say it proud. Dont let the people who come in here daily to quote others and argue and defend btg dismay you.

bonanza is rigged and has changed. Im certain of it. And I can say that because I can.

The reason for it, is simple. It entices people to get addicted to the game and play their product. The more people who play their product the more traffic they drive into the casino. The better results for them the better the contract.

Next.

I do like the comments thought, why would BTG risk their license? Oh you know the same way they risked everything when they were shilling on the forum posting fake screenshots and fake posts to increase interest in their brand. How quickly some of us forget.

 

[goatwack]

Say it loud and say it proud. Dont let the people who come in here daily to quote others and argue and defend btg dismay you.

bonanza is rigged and has changed. Im certain of it. And I can say that because I can.

The reason for it, is simple. It entices people to get addicted to the game and play their product. The more people who play their product the more traffic they drive into the casino. The better results for them the better the contract.

Next.

I do like the comments thought, why would BTG risk their license? Oh you know the same way they risked everything when they were shilling on the forum posting fake screenshots and fake posts to increase interest in their brand. How quickly some of us forget.

So, er, you a fan?

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

 

[lockinlove]

So, er, you a fan?

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

Im a fan of myself.

 

[goatwack]

Im a fan of myself.

I'm a fan of yours too.

Even if you terrify the shit out of me

 

[greylady]

Say it loud and say it proud. Dont let the people who come in here daily to quote others and argue and defend btg dismay you.

bonanza is rigged and has changed. Im certain of it. And I can say that because I can.

The reason for it, is simple. It entices people to get addicted to the game and play their product. The more people who play their product the more traffic they drive into the casino. The better results for them the better the contract.

Next.

I do like the comments thought, why would BTG risk their license? Oh you know the same way they risked everything when they were shilling on the forum posting fake screenshots and fake posts to increase interest in their brand. How quickly some of us forget.

That is shocking

How does anyone ever gain back the trust of BTG after that, they were obviously willing to not only ruin their reputation but treat their customers as complete idiots and yet people still return to their games. BTG has just gone to the bottom of my crap list.

Off to see if I can find the posts.

 

[lockinlove]

That is shocking

How does anyone ever gain back the trust of BTG after that, they were obviously willing to not only ruin their reputation but treat their customers as complete idiots and yet people still return to their games. BTG has just gone to the bottom of my crap list.

Off to see if I can find the posts.

Go to post #267 of this thread and you can follow the links and read from there https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/dragon-born-117649-ways-at-unibet.71146/

 

[greylady]

Go to post #267 of this thread and you can follow the links and read from there https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/dragon-born-117649-ways-at-unibet.71146/

I found it through search, thanks LiL, quite shocked at this:

I bet you did since you and Big Time Gaming are sharing the same computer.

@everyone - these sorts of shilling stunts really piss me off. You can go through this thread and see how Big Time Gaming used the magicjohnson account to exploit this forum and worse of all - exploiting the good nature and friendship of our members.

I noticed this several days ago, and sent a mass PM to all iGaming reps giving them a heads up that one of their brethren was in the forum making shill posts. I also mentioned that if it would happen again I would step in with a ban-hammer in hand, and that it wouldn't be pretty.

It's not a pretty sight to see someone abuse our membership in such an unprofessional and unethical manner.

I will go so far as to warn anyone to approach these games with caution. If the operator of this gaming firm is bold enough to try and trick our membership, what else so you think they are capable of? Keep that in mind.

It does me wonder now why so many people are doing so poorly on Bonanza, the RTP is a continual decline it would appear for many, I really don't understand how they managed to come out of that

God it got worse. They ran a competition too and posted fake screenshots to win their own competition - how low can you get????

 

[lockinlove]

I found it through search, thanks LiL, quite shocked at this:

I bet you did since you and Big Time Gaming are sharing the same computer.

@everyone - these sorts of shilling stunts really piss me off. You can go through this thread and see how Big Time Gaming used the magicjohnson account to exploit this forum and worse of all - exploiting the good nature and friendship of our members.

I noticed this several days ago, and sent a mass PM to all iGaming reps giving them a heads up that one of their brethren was in the forum making shill posts. I also mentioned that if it would happen again I would step in with a ban-hammer in hand, and that it wouldn't be pretty.

It's not a pretty sight to see someone abuse our membership in such an unprofessional and unethical manner.

I will go so far as to warn anyone to approach these games with caution. If the operator of this gaming firm is bold enough to try and trick our membership, what else so you think they are capable of? Keep that in mind.


God it got worse. They ran a competition too and posted fake screenshots to win their own competition - how low can you get????

And the only person who really laid into them was Harry by rereading the thread and he didnt even really receive any type of support. People made the off hand comment here and there including myself but man these guys were let off so easy by the members here and again, including me too. I mean, mentally I despised them but more needed to be said. But people were too into the contest and trying to win I guess

That situation, them ignoring me via pm and lying to me, them never honoring the danger high voltage contest, is why Im so hard on them

It does me wonder now why so many people are doing so poorly on Bonanza, the RTP is a continual decline it would appear for many, I really don't understand how they managed to come out of that

They came out of it because they made the only excuse they could that couldnt be proven they were lying. They blamed it on some junior employee.

We drift into different areas once we start saying the game is rigged though. Maybe tinfoil hat stuff, maybe paranoia or maybe its real. I have played this slot a massive amount and here is how I look at it simple terms.

Aside from the dishonesty and shilling lets just talk about game play.

This game is designed so big hits and hot streaks happen very few and far apart. its in its design. You can see that with the math. The hit accuracy percentage and the amount of spins it takes to trigger a bonus on average makes this slot very hard to go on any kind of streaks. Will they happen? Of course. but not frequently by any means.

For people to be spinning this slot for the first month with wins all over the place and then it suddenly stops, raises a tonne of red flags to me. It goes against the game design. How can so many people claim the game changed? How can so many people claim such hot streaks in the first month of its release? How can so many people claim such nice hits in its first month? And no, i do not buy into it that people were playing it more. people play it the same amount as we can see from the comments in this thread and constantly being streamed on youtube and twitch. For 10-20 members to claim this slot was hot for them the first month and then never returned is very suspicious considering the design of this game makes it hard for 1 person to go on a month long hot streak. Let alone dozens.

Will some people find my post absurd? Sure. But I dont care. The amount of sweat and time I put into this game has given me a large enough sample size to give a proper opinion. And no I dont buy into I need to do 1 billion spins before anyone can claim anything.

There are really only 2 slots I have really really called out. that is this one and vikings go berserk. But I had data for both, they werent just wild rants.

I applaud Harry but the most people definitely seemed blinkered, it was back to business as usual for them, like it never happened

Are some gamblers so blinkered that they will actually swallow a load of bulls**t?

It has put a whole new perspective on their games for me - so morally and ethically wrong!!

Again, it was the first of its kind really. So many megaways so much potential and a contest. Thats still the case today, when a gambler sees potential like this, they believe that next spin can be them. I have done it, we all have and people will continue. Then you have a bunch of boring regurgitated slots on the market, btg offers something new and different and the belief the 20,000x is possible. Very possible.

The only way gamblers stop playing their slots is if there was clear cut evidence they manipulate the outcome or target people. The likelihood of that happening is right around zero.

 

[greylady]

And the only person who really laid into them was Harry by rereading the thread and he didnt even really receive any type of support. People made the off hand comment here and there including myself but man these guys were let off so easy by the members here and again, including me too. I mean, mentally I despised them but more needed to be said. But people were too into the contest and trying to win I guess

That situation, them ignoring me via pm and lying to me, them never honoring the danger high voltage contest, is why Im so hard on them

I applaud Harry but the most people definitely seemed blinkered, it was back to business as usual for them, like it never happened

Are some gamblers so blinkered that they will actually swallow a load of bulls**t?

It has put a whole new perspective on their games for me - so morally and ethically wrong!!

 

[goatwack]

I applaud Harry but the most people definitely seemed blinkered, it was back to business as usual for them, like it never happened

Are some gamblers so blinkered that they will actually swallow a load of bulls**t?

It has put a whole new perspective on their games for me - so morally and ethically wrong!!

I think we all know the answer to that

 

[Nate]

I bet you did since you and Big Time Gaming are sharing the same computer.

Still can't put my head around this one. When the information on the shill was brought up by Bryan, I couldn't believe that an operator would go so low....

The SAME computer.... Since when does the CEO of a company SHARE his PC with the average staff member...

Looking at the profiles - Game of Thrones for both the CEO and Magicjohnson.... I know the show is EPIC, but that similarity stands out.

At least BTG won an award at CM - Faceplant of the year 2016 : https://www.casinomeister.com/casino-awards/year-2016/faceplant-of-the-year-2016/

As for me... 2 hits on just over 800x i think and thats been about it. I have played more than 200 or 300k worth of spins just at videoslots... In all this time, I have NOT had a single feature I could upload to my YT channel that was not the same old 200x or 300x. I played probably 2% of that amount of spins on Book of Dead and I have hits for over 1000x.

Makes me wonder if I should have been playing DOA which I have abandoned of late...


Nate

 

[greylady]

Still can't put my head around this one. When the information on the shill was brought up by Bryan, I couldn't believe that an operator would go so low....

The SAME computer.... Since when does the CEO of a company SHARE his PC with the average staff member...

Looking at the profiles - Game of Thrones for both the CEO and Magicjohnson.... I know the show is EPIC, but that similarity stands out.

At least BTG won an award at CM - Faceplant of the year 2016 : https://www.casinomeister.com/casino-awards/year-2016/faceplant-of-the-year-2016/

As for me... 2 hits on just over 800x i think and thats been about it. I have played more than 200 or 300k worth of spins just at videoslots... In all this time, I have NOT had a single feature I could upload to my YT channel that was not the same old 200x or 300x. I played probably 2% of that amount of spins on Book of Dead and I have hits for over 1000x.

Makes me wonder if I should have been playing DOA which I have abandoned of late...



Nate

Maybe the CEO and Magicjohnson are one and the same person

 

[AlexJamesSmith]

SlotsMillions upgraded this game the other day, and it feels like a completely different game - in a bad way. Does anyone else feel the same?

 

[goatwack]

SlotsMillions upgraded this game the other day, and it feels like a completely different game - in a bad way. Does anyone else feel the same?

I haven't played it as much as others round here, but barring one good session a couple of weeks ago it's been stone cold dead

Yesterday. £30 straight to oblivion on minimum bets. Don't know why everyone raves about its mythical playtime, I find other games to be way more value for money!

 

[greylady]

SlotsMillions upgraded this game the other day, and it feels like a completely different game - in a bad way. Does anyone else feel the same?

I said this earlier on in the thread, it plays different and it takes a lot more spins than previously to trigger the bonus!

 

[AlexJamesSmith]

I said this earlier on in the thread, it plays different and it takes a lot more spins than previously to trigger the bonus!

Interesting - I find it's actually much easier to trigger the bonus now, but I find the 'teases' have increased, as well as the number of times "G O L" lands. Also I find it much harder to play a session now - the wins just don't seem to be there any longer. Shame!

 

[interlog]

So a few months ago I won a Bonanza t-shirt via this topic.

Eventually two t-shirts arrived (I think the courier lost the original) after some email correspondence with Big Time Gaming. Good stuff indeed

A few weeks after the t-shirts arrived an invoice from the courier arrived asking for £20.45 import duties.

Got in contact with BTG again and was informed that they would take care of it.

Nothing since (despite a few email reminders following payment reminders from the courier), so had no choice to pay the duties as I was being threatened with legal action.

I am sure that if Big Time Gaming does future competitions or gives away t-shirts that they will declare it as a "gift" so no import duties are payable by the lucky winner of the item.

Bit disappointed by it to be honest.

 

[ReggieMac]

So a few months ago I won a Bonanza t-shirt via this topic.

Eventually two t-shirts arrived (I think the courier lost the original) after some email correspondence with Big Time Gaming. Good stuff indeed

A few weeks after the t-shirts arrived an invoice from the courier arrived asking for £20.45 import duties.

Got in contact with BTG again and was informed that they would take care of it.

Nothing since (despite a few email reminders following payment reminders from the courier), so had no choice to pay the duties as I was being threatened with legal action.

I am sure that if Big Time Gaming does future competitions or gives away t-shirts that they will declare it as a "gift" so no import duties are payable by the lucky winner of the item.

Bit disappointed by it to be honest.

WOW! That is a very poor show. The import duties were probably than the value of the t-shirts in the first place as well!

 

[greylady]

So a few months ago I won a Bonanza t-shirt via this topic.

Eventually two t-shirts arrived (I think the courier lost the original) after some email correspondence with Big Time Gaming. Good stuff indeed

A few weeks after the t-shirts arrived an invoice from the courier arrived asking for £20.45 import duties.

Got in contact with BTG again and was informed that they would take care of it.

Nothing since (despite a few email reminders following payment reminders from the courier), so had no choice to pay the duties as I was being threatened with legal action.

I am sure that if Big Time Gaming does future competitions or gives away t-shirts that they will declare it as a "gift" so no import duties are payable by the lucky winner of the item.

Bit disappointed by it to be honest.

I would have sent the t-shirts back and billed them for my time and costs.

BTG really can't seem to make any competition they allege to run be hassle free

 

[Harry_BKK]

Awful, just awful.

Probably another new low-level intern who didn't know what he/she was doing.

So a few months ago I won a Bonanza t-shirt via this topic.

Eventually two t-shirts arrived (I think the courier lost the original) after some email correspondence with Big Time Gaming. Good stuff indeed

A few weeks after the t-shirts arrived an invoice from the courier arrived asking for £20.45 import duties.

Got in contact with BTG again and was informed that they would take care of it.

Nothing since (despite a few email reminders following payment reminders from the courier), so had no choice to pay the duties as I was being threatened with legal action.

I am sure that if Big Time Gaming does future competitions or gives away t-shirts that they will declare it as a "gift" so no import duties are payable by the lucky winner of the item.

Bit disappointed by it to be honest.

 

[aceking123]

Awful, just awful.

Probably another new low-level intern who didn't know what he/she was doing.

its not the only casino to mess up , not sure if you seen the trada one , t shirts diary laptop case or along those lines for comments anyways i made a comment & wasn't doing it to win anything , just comments anyways my name got pulled from bowl , that was a couple of weeks ago , nothing received at this point , i even spoken to Jack & mentioned it & cheekily told him to put a laptop in it as i don't have one ) hahaha anyway silence & i have not bothered touching with rachel as i already did e mail her with my username name, im sure accounts would know my address.