New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[thr0b]

Yeah, but thats why i said long term.
The more spins you put thru a slot, the closer to the theoretical rtp you would be, no?

Not really, as the RTP is not exclusive to you. Someone else could be getting 110% RTP, you could be getting 78% RTP and the hypothetical game would still be playing at 94% RTP.

 

[thr0b]

(The same theory can be said of scratch cards. Most say they have a chance of 1 in 5 of winning. But you could buy 20 cards and none would win a penny, as the 1 in 5 refers to all of those printed.)

 

[Kroffe]

Not really, as the RTP is not exclusive to you. Someone else could be getting 110% RTP, you could be getting 78% RTP and the hypothetical game would still be playing at 94% RTP.

But those things all even out the more spins you put thru it.
Its not like my rtp on a slot would stay at 200% if i won 2x on my first spin.
Over the years it would creep closer to the trtp.

Same with the scratch cards.
Buy enough of them and if theres a 20% chance of winning, after buying enough you would reach that 20% winrate.

 

[thr0b]

But those things all even out the more spins you put thru it.
Its not like my rtp on a slot would stay at 200% if i won 2x on my first spin.
Over the years it would creep closer to the trtp.

Same with the scratch cards.
Buy enough of them and if theres a 20% chance of winning, after buying enough you would reach that 20% winrate.

Nope - only if you're the only person playing. The moment another player is involved, the variables increase. It's one reason the RTP is theoretical - it would be correct if you were the only person who played

 

[Kroffe]

Nope - only if you're the only person playing. The moment another player is involved, the variables increase. It's one reason the RTP is theoretical - it would be correct if you were the only person who played

But the rtp over 200 billion spins (or however many they do when testing) will be 96%.
Does not matter if its 10 people each doing 20 billion spins, or one person doing 200 billion, the result will be the same.

Why would another person playing affect my rtp on the slot in any way?

Edit: It would work like you say if they are compensated.
Then a lucky hit from one player would need to be compensated by taking from others.

 

[Kroffe]

Ill let @trancemonkey decide.

Does another players spins affect my rtp in any way if the slot is not compensated?

 

[trancemonkey]

Ill let @trancemonkey decide.

Does another players spins affect my rtp in any way if the slot it not compensated?

Nope. Of course not.

 

[Kroffe]

Nope. Of course not.

 

[snorky510238]

Rtp doesn’t necessarily account for a slot being any good. It’s more to do with how the slot is structured to pay out the rtp.

Example, a slot has a rtp of 98%. Every £1 you spin you get 98p back. Great! You are never ahead.

 

[Kroffe]

Rtp doesn’t necessarily account for a slot being any good. It’s more to do with how the slot is structured to pay out the rtp.

Example, a slot has a rtp of 98%. Every £1 you spin you get 98p back. Great! You are never ahead.

True, but more rtp leaves more room for a good basegame & good bonuses.
Wich is what makes people choose certain slots over other ones, and what providers are shooting for since they want as much of the market as possible to themselves.
The lower the rtp is, the more the base&bonus pays have to be shaved off.

 

[trancemonkey]

Not really, as the RTP is not exclusive to you. Someone else could be getting 110% RTP, you could be getting 78% RTP and the hypothetical game would still be playing at 94% RTP.

No it isn't. The amount if people playing has no influence on anything.

RTP is based on the overall game across a site(s) depending on how many sites an operator runs. Your own personal RTP is irrelevant statistically...

 

[trancemonkey]

Nope - only if you're the only person playing. The moment another player is involved, the variables increase. It's one reason the RTP is theoretical - it would be correct if you were the only person who played

No, the reason it's called a theoretical RTP is because due to randomness and variance, it may never be 100% accurate. Of course, if you played an infinite amount of games, then the actual RTP would be smack on the theoretical RTP. But even after 4bn games, if the RTP says 96.04, it could actually be 96.03 that the game is running at due to variance and fluctuation.

 

[thr0b]

No it isn't. The amount if people playing has no influence on anything.

RTP is based on the overall game across a site(s) depending on how many sites an operator runs. Your own personal RTP is irrelevant statistically...

That's what I mean- you could be playing terribly, but the game is still playing at it's designed RTP overall.

 

[snorky510238]

Yes, surely for a slot to hit the rtp one man’s loss must be another’s gain, no?

 

[snorky510238]

How much u making a week on
Bonanza then Snorky?

£8.50 but I am working on it.

 

[pinnit2014]

The only words of advice in terms of Bonanza playing is manage expectations: I've hardly touched it the last month or so but the 3 times i have I've walked out 500 quid up plus in the 3 sessions: it's tempting to play it again but i know it'll just sook it back, so, as boring as it sounds I've put the money towards my new kitchen (must be getting old).

It's not a HV game IMO but it is a very good slot for, if you catch it, maybe walking out 500x profit.

Mrs P's being bashing away at it (oh Matron) and she's been getting some real shitters: last sesh was 7 GOLDS in about 250 spins: 13,43,56,124,18 and some other low numbers. Some had 22 spins in there for good measure.

In many ways i don't see it as any different to some other games - you need to know when to stop, simple. I remember losing about a grand in a day ages ago playing Secret of the Stones - all because i got wild reels 2 and 4 and ended up a few k up the week before: just cos i lost discipline; if you're lumping 50 after 50 at Bonanza you're going to end up on the floor most times. Hard to do when the fuckers Gol'ing right enough - becomes a war of attrition

 

[Kroffe]

The only words of advice in terms of Bonanza playing is manage expectations: I've hardly touched it the last month or so but the 3 times i have I've walked out 500 quid up plus in the 3 sessions: it's tempting to play it again but i know it'll just sook it back, so, as boring as it sounds I've put the money towards my new kitchen (must be getting old).

It's not a HV game IMO but it is a very good slot for, if you catch it, maybe walking out 500x profit.

Mrs P's being bashing away at it (oh Matron) and she's been getting some real shitters: last sesh was 7 GOLDS in about 250 spins: 13,43,56,124,18 and some other low numbers. Some had 22 spins in there for good measure.

In many ways i don't see it as any different to some other games - you need to know when to stop, simple. I remember losing about a grand in a day ages ago playing Secret of the Stones - all because i got wild reels 2 and 4 and ended up a few k up the week before: just cos i lost discipline; if you're lumping 50 after 50 at Bonanza you're going to end up on the floor most times. Hard to do when the fuckers Gol'ing right enough - becomes a war of attrition

7 golds in 250ish spins is freaking amazing tho.

 

[pinnit2014]

7 golds in 250ish spins is freaking amazing tho.

Yeah, not quite on a par with my 3 in a row in Leo Vegas though....she's been getting loads of them, one of those weeks where every heart stopper has a D - shame they've been mainly poor though - u always think 'that's 5 in a row that are crap, there can't be another one'

There can be

There can be another 50 in a row like that

 

[Kroffe]

Yeah, not quite on a par with my 3 in a row in Leo Vegas though....she's been getting loads of them, one of those weeks where every heart stopper has a D - shame they've been mainly poor though - u always think 'that's 5 in a row that are crap, there can't be another one'

There can be

There can be another 50 in a row like that

As a seasoned Doa player i know a thing or two about getting many crappy bonuses in a row.

 

[snorky510238]

Discipline, that is the main element you need. Took me a lifetime to achieve any at all and I will never perfect it, that’s for sure but I am 85% of the way there.

 

[snorky510238]

Here’s snorky.

A bit more gold and an unusual one on the x1,047. Going nowhere with the multiplier on x10 with 2 spins left, it went crazy. I think 11 wins were on the last spin.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Here’s snorky.

A bit more gold and an unusual one on the x1,047. Going nowhere with the multiplier on x10 with 2 spins left, it went crazy. I think 11 wins were on the last spin.

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Look at this filth...

Hail the new King of Bonanza!

 

[nutnut]

downside for snarky is hes gone.to be on.the biggest run of loss for months soon. o remember when i won 7k over several weeks it felt like I couldn't lose. then caught up with me for several months afterwards.

 

[sufferinsilence]

downside for snarky is hes gone.to be on.the biggest run of loss for months soon. o remember when i won 7k over several weeks it felt like I couldn't lose. then caught up with me for several months afterwards.

My losing streak on Bonanza last autumn has cured my severe Bonanza-addiction tho. In the process I discovered there are other slots out there too

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Only took about 3,400 spins. Only my 2nd bonus since my absolute stinker 22 spin trigger and my 26th bonus on the bounce without hitting 100x

 

[Greigssy]

I've always wondered how BTG games are actually operated via a third part server.

Bonanza is hosted by 4 different suppliers NYX, Quickfire,SG and Relax
Is the RNG hosted on these independent servers or does that come direct from BTG?

If independent does that then mean there are 4 different version of the same game running simultaneously?
4 different RNG's......... possibly on different cycles (if you believe that happens)

* I've edited my post as Relax is another host

 

[pinnit2014]

Who hosts the Sky Vegas one?

 

[Greigssy]

Not sure what version is at Sky Vegas I only play at Hills and Paddy Power both NYX I think.
All I know is the one with no Autoplay is Quickfire.

I'm just trying wondering if I'd be better moving about different host servers if it's particularly shite at the one I'm playing at.

I know it'a all eh 'random' but it might be worthwhile rather than battering away 1000's of spins at the same place.

 

[pinnit2014]

Not sure what version is at Sky Vegas I only play at Hills and Paddy Power both NYX I think.
All I know is the one with no Autoplay is Quickfire.

I'm just trying wondering if I'd be better moving about different host servers if it's particularly shite at the one I'm playing at.

I know it'a all eh 'random' but it might be worthwhile rather than battering away 1000's of spins at the same place.

Personally, there's only been a few times that when i've jumped around there's been a seismic change in play; normally it just means i lose twice as fast

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

At some point you’ll be connected to the ‘fuck you, I’m gonna mug you off, at least dick Turpin wore a mask, prepare to do utter brains, you ain’t having fuck all no matter where you play’ server anyway.

 

[Greigssy]

I think I'm on that server just now £50 loss no bonus on 0.20.
Thought I would try Mega-Clusters 400 spins £30 and I still haven't triggered even 2 spins, when did this get cranked up to Bonanza bonus variance!

On LIL Devil I give it a max £5 loss a day on (0.10) so three days £15 loss and just the one heart collected.
Ever since I won £700 at 0.09 on DOA my luck has vanished on all slots.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Where's my @snorky510238 at with some beauties?

 

[snorky510238]

Didn’t get much chance to play this evening, probably not a bad thing as it could be Friday at the earliest before the next cycle.

 

[mrshyguy]

is it me or anyone else, if the bonus comes in just gold more often then not, the pays are ok, but if i get gold plus five or plus 10 the pays are terrible, never got anything over x30 when the plus symbol drops.

 

[nutnut]

Looks at multi after 1 spin on 17 spin retrigger. not moaning about end result but if you can't hit a x1000 on that then how feck can you? x500 seems to be limit for this slot

 

[goatwack]

Damn right you're not moaning bitch. You had 3 spins left

 

[nutnut]

back to normal.

tons of gol then finally gold which paid x6

 

[snorky510238]

Not as good as it should have been given the stake but still profit so can’t moan. Well not to much.

 

[Playford7]

You vile disgusting piece of filth.....

Note the feature trigger amount....

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Serious high rolling here, you should stream.
that said terrible innings lol

 

[ZoeP]

I just do not think i can bring myself to play this again, its so painful 90% of the time the 10% doesn't make up for it.

I could take the £25 from the VS battles/ Opal, and it would not last 20 mins.

 

[Playford7]

Here’s snorky.

A bit more gold and an unusual one on the x1,047. Going nowhere with the multiplier on x10 with 2 spins left, it went crazy. I think 11 wins were on the last spin.

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Superb that to see. Almost half a bag of sand on 40p, that’s cash that could buy loads if you where not in for too much...
This game can pay and it’s entertaining, holds the balance...
Just a shame the 1000x or even 500x hits are so rare, not that BTG care this slot alone has more discussion than any other on CM..
Job done.

 

[snorky510238]

Superb that to see. Almost half a bag of sand on 40p, that’s cash that could buy loads if you where not in for too much...
This game can pay and it’s entertaining, holds the balance...
Just a shame the 1000x or even 500x hits are so rare, not that BTG care this slot alone has more discussion than any other on CM..
Job done.

No, just a £20 deposit at ABC. That’s the key to Bonanza, never chase it, that’s what it wants you to do. It will beat you 95% of the time if you do that.

 

[Playford7]

No, just a £20 deposit at ABC. That’s the key to Bonanza, never chase it, that’s what it wants you to do. It will beat you 95% of the time if you do that.

Lovely result mate. Especially off a small deposit.
enjoy!...

 

[nutnut]

nearly 3000 spins today without a bonus. I would say shocking but really not one of those evenings no matter how many gol it just ain't landing

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Serious high rolling here, you should stream.
that said terrible innings lol

I play with real money, my own money, no silly deposit bonuses, no golden hand shakes, no max cash outs, no lump sum payments etc etc

Hence the reason why my stakes are 20-80p. I’m also not funded by other people’s losses despite me pretending I want people to gamble responsibly when deep down I want as many sign ups and brain outs as possible.

However you are correct, I should start streaming because I would be far more entertaining than MOST of the wooden actors you currently see who have no interest in gambling what so ever. The reason being is that I would actually care if was losing.

If my stakes were to suddenly jump from 60p to £5 a spin however.............

Mind you at least I would be a gambler becoming an affiliate rather than an affiliate come gambler. There is a huge difference and it shows.


I hope you are happy with my response young Playford.

As for the bonus it was a terrible innings indeed!!!

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Snorky with his usual array of bonuses.

Whats your all time bonanza rtp on videoslots saying these days Snorkmeister?

I’ll be requesting mine from sky Vegas today. Always like to keep tabs.

 

[snorky510238]

Snorky with his usual array of bonuses.

Whats your all time bonanza rtp on videoslots saying these days Snorkmeister?

I’ll be requesting mine from sky Vegas today. Always like to keep tabs.

98.65%

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

I’ve only had 62,262 spins at VS but I am running over slightly at 97.85%

I shall report back with my sky figures later.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Of course my DHV stats are a tad worse.

A huge 83.64%

Terrible game

 

[snorky510238]

I’ve only had 62,262 spins at VS but I am running over slightly at 97.85%

I shall report back with my sky figures later.

Just short of 110,000 spins.