New Slot Announcement Bonanza by Big Time Gaming

[slotmaster]

STOP POSTING ON THIS THREAD AND FEEDING THE MONSTER THAT IS BTG

What is the u.k. term? BOLLOX. Just because you lost money does not mean the rest of us can not have fun. Hitting thousands of ways is not going to happen on this game, All the spins I have played my biggest is 130ish ways win if I remember right. I agree with all the megaways slots and spins we have only seen like 2 hits but I will have to search on youtube and other sites but I do agree that we should have seen more by now.

I play bonanza for what it is, to try and boost the bankroll via the small hits and try for the diamond hit or something good in the bonus whenever it does land. I got 2 golds tonight for about 80x each but as I thought everything was pretty dead today as everything was paying last night on vs.

 

[Devontheman]

Lost 10 then deposited 30 got to 40ish done 60p spins the amount of teases was disgusting got a bonus pay 58 that got me to 69 lost 9 on bonanza doing 40p spins then took 60 to roulette I was 20 pound and roulette killed me

 

[Devontheman]

See

 

[smart_croatia]

Last night just one spin before rip bullet i got D and 324x nice

 

[lockinlove]

Was going to carry on with it for a bit but its just too boring and senseless and frustrating. The slot doesnt even make sense to me and why people are so addicted to it still after all this time.

had 5 more bonuses today average spins 580 to hit it and all of them paid 22x and under. Heres just a couple examples. So I had one 100x win on this in 15 features and I guess about 10,000 spins.

At the tail end I just raised to 80cent to go busto and go elsewhere and away from this nonsense. Hit two bonuses with 20 spins of each other LOL.

Its nothing but a wager slot to finish off a bonus. There is just no reasoning whatsoever to make people wait 1k-3000 spins on this slot at all. Just none.

bring back nutnut! He is our savior to remind us all why not to play this thing!!

 

[goatwack]

Yeah it's not the same. Commenting here feels like I'm hijacking Nutnut's thread

 

[pinnit2014]

Balance-ish saver. Dear BTG - can you make this happen in the bonus rounds, as opposed to my last 10's average of 25x Ok - no harm in asking. average of 25x

 

[pinnit2014]

Night of no bonus....but basegame balance savers on 2 sites. Phew. Was going to have to slum it on pound bets

 

[Devontheman]

Yup I pretty much gave up with bonanza

 

[BillyGoldblum]

I dont get this slot, every time I get a bonus on it, it pretty much pays this. Why are the bonuses set to hit 1:450? Im sure the btg rep answered already but its a big thread. Im genuinely curious the reasoning behind it?

 

[dionysus]

I dont get this slot, every time I get a bonus on it, it pretty much pays this. Why are the bonuses set to hit 1:450? Im sure the btg rep

Well, they arent set to 1 in 450 - that's an average of what to expect in bonus frequency. Like ice ages....just because they're roughly one in 10,000 years and it's been roughly 10,000, doesnt mean we're due.. It's over large numbers....so one could hit in 9000 years form now...or two in a 10k period 20k yrs from now


note - rough numbers for ice ages - noone need come back with different hisorical accuracies, its an example

 

[BillyGoldblum]

Well, they arent set to 1 in 450 - that's an average of what to expect in bonus frequency. Like ice ages....just because they're roughly one in 10,000 years and it's been roughly 10,000, doesnt mean we're due.. It's over large numbers....so one could hit in 9000 years form now...or two in a 10k period 20k yrs from now


note - rough numbers for ice ages - noone need come back with different hisorical accuracies, its an example

I dont think anyone on here thinks they are set to trigger exactly at that number and was more of a generalization on why this slot is set 1:450 vs MG hv slots which are 1:150

 

[dionysus]

I dont think anyone on here thinks they are set to trigger exactly at that number and was more of a generalization on why this slot is set 1:450 vs MG hv slots which are 1:150

I believe its been explained because there's, unlike other HV games which more hold rtp in the bonus, a spread of rtp is in the base with this game as well.
@dunover is a better one to ask when it comes down to maths, or @trancemonkey
I'm fairly certain is was dunover who had the percentages down

 

[Devontheman]

Because it’s compensated

 

[lockinlove]

Ya I think its because the base game ratio is something like 1/2.54 and then the unlimited multiplier claim

 

[Sonict]

If it was compensated, the game has to say it somewhere according to @trancemonkey . It is a regulation for the UK at least IIRC.

 

[lockinlove]

Doubt its compensated lol. its just a slot that will tilt the most sane people in the world. Ive seen streamers lose their mind on this thing. Look at this thread its riddled in insanity!

 

[lockinlove]

Went to do 100 spins on it. 83rd spin hit the bonus. But yeah I think average bonus on this pays about 10-30x. Its just the same thing over and over. try to get difficult bonus finally hit it, pays nothing and the frustration mounts.

Nutnut is lurking this thread I am certain of that. Hope you are enjoying my return entertainment in your absence

 

[dionysus]

Went to do 100 spins on it. 83rd spin hit the bonus. But yeah I think average bonus on this pays about 10-30x. Its just the same thing over and over. try to get difficult bonus finally hit it, pays nothing and the frustration mounts.

I suppose this is why I'm surpirsed there's still people that think the game is rigged - after 300 pages the game still behaves the way in which everyone has to come to know it behaves - a hard to achieve bonus round with many low returns and rare high returns, FS at random intervals and a base game that while doesnt offer large returns doesnt generally quickly suck you dry and allows for, usually, a decent playtime......and SOMEtimes, , throws a wrench in, has back to back bonuses (or within fairly quick succession), a beautiful fs hit, and converesely, 0 fs in a huge amount of spins, entirely behaving in a random manner...all within what people have come to expect....and repeatedly told, explained and shared.

 

[lockinlove]

I suppose this is why I'm surpirsed there's still people that think the game is rigged - after 300 pages the game still behaves the way in which everyone has to come to know it behaves - a hard to achieve bonus round with many low returns and rare high returns, FS at random intervals and a base game that while doesnt offer large returns doesnt generally quickly suck you dry and allows for, usually, a decent playtime......and SOMEtimes, , throws a wrench in, has back to back bonuses (or within fairly quick succession), a beautiful fs hit, and converesely, 0 fs in a huge amount of spins, entirely behaving in a random manner...all within what people have come to expect....and repeatedly told, explained and shared.

I dont know if its good advice or bad or right thinking or wrong but out of all the slots ive played over the years, I can say anything I chased long enough to get a hit im happy with, I have succeeded. Bonanza is a slot designed that chasing it will get you nowhere forever. And I mean playing it every day for 10 years you could very well never get a good hit. I know some people that have done 1 million spins on it and never got over 500x. There was even a streamer who chased a big win on every slot and eventually it gave it to him. This one he did 600k spins on it and never got 1000x and he just got tired of it and gave up. Its the only slot that defeated him and many other people too.

First of all you have to beat the odds to even get the bonus on this thing. Then you have to beat the super rare odds for that bonus to do something. Which is ultra rare. Its a slot designed for you not to bother chasing.

Id say this is the best slot in the industry to wager on. Because you can usually do pretty good with an outside chance at a monster too. But looking for a big win? Probably the worst out there.

 

[trancemonkey]

If it was compensated, the game has to say it somewhere according to @trancemonkey . It is a regulation for the UK at least IIRC.

You can't compensate online games. It's illegal

 

[trancemonkey]

As designers we can make the bonus as frequent or as infrequent as we want. It's down to things like how much RTP you want in the base game, how much you want the feature to pay, etc...

 

[Devontheman]

Yeah you get the same old teases same patterns same kind of wins but it’s not compensated... righttttt

 

[dionysus]

Yeah you get the same old teases same patterns same kind of wins but it’s not compensated... righttttt

if youre convinced it's compensated, then why on god's green earth would you play it?
clearly, the staff and outside professionals and seasoned players cant tell you otherwise

 

[dunover]

I believe its been explained because there's, unlike other HV games which more hold rtp in the bonus, a spread of rtp is in the base with this game as well.
@dunover is a better one to ask when it comes down to maths, or @trancemonkey
I'm fairly certain is was dunover who had the percentages down

Yes, Bonanza is around 71-25% base-bonus RTP.
As Trancemonkey will tell you, it depends on how you set the maths up, what you want to achieve. So in Bonanza's case at 71-25 you could raise the bonus frequency to 1/230 at the cost of reducing average feature returns to 50-ish x bet. Or you could have it remaining at 100x -ish, increase the feature frequency to 1/230 but reduce base game to 46% to get a 46-50 spread. In that case it would become nearly unplayable for most as it would become even worse then BoRe Deluxe which has a low base game RTP, decent average feature return and frequency too. It's all a trade-off, because whatever you do the pie is only so big, limited by the RTP therefore however you cut the slices they will always add up to the same.