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CraiGDaniel said:
Sorry if it offended you, honestly just thought it was quite funny at the time as had been watching those Tyrone videos where he goes around saying he was going to bang somebodies wife long dick style :D

Laughing thinking about it to be honest.

Immature i know.
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Hold my beer..

we have a grey spotted rare steamer here, and he’s posting in person (screenshot this)

kudos for your presence but that’s where the applause ends.

Where you not aware how shite genesis as a brand where? Clearly being a member here would of given you sufficient knowledge to know the wait times for a withdrawal are terrible... the complaints massive?..

All credit now removed from your affy site, but it’s akin to chip promoting aspire global or nektan ffs...
in the real world you would if yourself used your own money would avoid such places like wuhan...

And you frankly couldn’t give a shit who you offend or whom gets ripped off by your business, it’s as grubby as a farmers hands.

Great you made a appearance, yay we got a personality here guys...
 
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Playford7 said:
Hold my beer..

we have a grey spotted rare steamer here, and he’s posting in person (screenshot this)

kudos for your presence but that’s where the applause ends.

Where you not aware how shite genesis as a brand where? Clearly being a member here would of given you sufficient knowledge to know the wait times for a withdrawal are terrible... the complaints massive?..

All credit now removed from your affy site, but it’s akin to chip promoting aspire global or nektan ffs...
in the real world you would if yourself used your own money would avoid such places like wuhan...

And you frankly couldn’t give a shit who you offend or whom gets ripped off by your business, it’s as grubby as a farmers hands.

Great you made a appearance, yay we got a personality here guys...
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I'll be sure to rub my crystal balls and predict the future of every casino's operating license in future just for your satisfaction sir.

Maybe you should get outside more looking at your previous posts on CM

I go way above and beyond any affiliate to look after people and spend countless hours doing it.

I live a happy life and worked hard for what i have.

I guess that's just to much for your little head to comprehend.
 
CraiGDaniel said:
I'll be sure to rub my crystal balls and predict the future of every casino's operating license in future just for your satisfaction sir.

Maybe you should get outside more looking at your previous posts on CM

I go way above and beyond any affiliate to look after people and spend countless hours doing it.

I live a happy life and worked hard for what i have.

I guess that's just to much for your little head to comprehend.
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Ok... but you stream and act lol..
Just imagine being so pathetic...

Best of luck, your conscience must be clear...
parasite...

also any issues PM me, I’m happy to speak to and meet anyone...
 
Playford7 said:
Ok... but you stream and act lol..
Just imagine being so pathetic...

Best of luck, your conscience must be clear...
parasite...

also any issues PM me, I’m happy to speak to and meet anyone...
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You're stupid.. lol....
Just imagine being so sutpid..

BTW the website you spend so much of your precious time on (could be bettering yourself btw) is an affiliation forum.

Oh dear.

Might feature you on my twitter for stupidest comments.

GG, Bye.
 
CraiGDaniel said:
You're stupid.. lol....
Just imagine being so sutpid..

BTW the website you spend so much of your precious time on (could be bettering yourself btw) is an affiliation forum.

Oh dear.

Might feature you on my twitter for stupidest comments.

GG, Bye.
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Imagine replying to me and calling me stupid and making spelling mistakes... ha
 
Something smells bad at the above posters site Gamblers Den. They act so friendly on the videos saying visit our site, we will help you we give away thousands each month and all that crap. Nobody does all that for nothing.

Also Jimbo broke terms of bonus, won ten thousands last month at CasinoEuro. After cashing in and said I expect them to take my winnings away then two minutes later deposited with another free £250 bonus.

I'm with Phil on this one, soonier they ban all these streamers the world will be a better place for the normal folk who gamble.
 
ThomasMT said:
Something smells bad at the above posters site Gamblers Den. They act so friendly on the videos saying visit our site, we will help you we give away thousands each month and all that crap. Nobody does all that for nothing.

Also Jimbo broke terms of bonus, won ten thousands last month at CasinoEuro. After cashing in and said I expect them to take my winnings away then two minutes later deposited with another free £250 bonus.

I'm with Phil on this one, soonier they ban all these streamers the world will be a better place for the normal folk who gamble.
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This was me, not Jimbo.

At least get facts right, none of what you said there even happened and you have no idea about who/what it was????
 
ThomasMT said:
Something smells bad at the above posters site Gamblers Den. They act so friendly on the videos saying visit our site, we will help you we give away thousands each month and all that crap. Nobody does all that for nothing.

Also Jimbo broke terms of bonus, won ten thousands last month at CasinoEuro. After cashing in and said I expect them to take my winnings away then two minutes later deposited with another free £250 bonus.

I'm with Phil on this one, soonier they ban all these streamers the world will be a better place for the normal folk who gamble.
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Totally agree..
I’d like to meet them both and have ‘A coffee’
But they run when questioned like all streamers do.

I’m open for PM’s, I’ll have dialogue with anyone.
I’ve zero to hide.

sadly many have and it’s ignored..
 
CraiGDaniel said:
Imagine being so desperate you're calling someone out for a spelling mistake.

Pathetic :D

Anyway way to much of my time wasted, i can see why streamers don't come here if they're faced with people like you.

I'll laugh myself out the door
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Well stay.. or agree to meet me...
I’m nice. Really

I’ll even get us lunch before we talk outside Craig... that’s a offer even a parasite can’t refuse...
 
Nothing wrong with a bit of mano-a-mano Greco Roman wrestling to sort out any differences

Playford's even stripped to the waist, the brute

I....it seems my imagination ran away with me there, sorry about that
 
goatwack said:
Nothing wrong with a bit of mano-a-mano Greco Roman wrestling to sort out any differences

Playford's even stripped to the waist, the brute

I....it seems my imagination ran away with me there, sorry about that
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Christ... I won’t sleep now you having that vision of me...

reported for sexual harassment.
 
dionysus said:
Let's nip this in the bud, shall we ?
Gentlemen, to your corners.
Goatie to your room, and let's all say a silent prayer for your socks :D
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Just going to bed, I’ve sox awaiting me oddly enough...
It’s a lot better a sight on my bed than the goat ha!...
 
curremon said:
Cant speak about nick but letsgiveitaspin ive been watching every now and then since he started and i truly believe hes gambling with own money.. Ofc he gets bonuses like everyone.
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I have seen this guy on you tube as well. Did you know he gets 2k bonus with no wagering pure cash every stream off leo vegas. I believe he is streaming at least 5 times a week, Thats 10k a week for FREE every week???

I also believe leo vegas bought more than 50 % of his shared website, Coincidence? Think people will make their own mind up about streamers because i am getting less and less convinced about any of them i see on you tube.
 
wobble33 said:
I have seen this guy on you tube as well. Did you know he gets 2k bonus with no wagering pure cash every stream off leo vegas. I believe he is streaming at least 5 times a week, Thats 10k a week for FREE every week???

I also believe leo vegas bought more than 50 % of his shared website, Coincidence? Think people will make their own mind up about streamers because i am getting less and less convinced about any of them i see on you tube.
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Source?
 
Whether streamers get no deposit / non withdrawable bonuses just as the young chap in the OP did, favourable bonus terms (i.e. a higher max bet than non streamers) or can only cash out a max of their winnings; none of these practices bring this streaming affiliation business in a good light.

There are only a few "real" slot streamers left. The majority of the slots section on Twitch is littered with what I describe as fake slot players because none of them would play in real life as they would on stream.

I said this a number of times before, but in the good old days of yesteryear high rolling was seen as playing at £5 a spin on Twitch with a giveaway for viewers consisting out of some free spins. These days, you don't get noticed any longer if you play at £5 a spin and you are to do a giveaway that consists out of a 4 digit number.
 
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dave1888 said:
Source?
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Just go to his channel. Ask him how does he gets 2k off leo vegas a day to stream, And he freely will tell you its a deposit bonus that has no wagering, No max bet and any game playable. He does tell you he wouldnt recieve it if he cashed it out straight away because thats obviously typical bonus abuse.

This guy seems a nice fella but i just cant get my head around the fact of anyone giving anyone else 2k a day virtual free money. Every day they stream.
 
wobble33 said:
Just go to his channel. Ask him how does he gets 2k off leo vegas a day to stream, And he freely will tell you its a deposit bonus that has no wagering, No max bet and any game playable. He does tell you he wouldnt recieve it if he cashed it out straight away because thats obviously typical bonus abuse.

This guy seems a nice fella but i just cant get my head around the fact of anyone giving anyone else 2k a day virtual free money. Every day they stream.
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What you forgot to mention is that he put his own money in first and that this 2k is a second chance bonus. Ok, very favourable terms but as you mentioned he can't cash it out all that often and is used to extend play time.

I am sure that, as with most gamblers, he is down on slot play at the end of the year (not taken into account any affiliate earning because they sit separate to the gambling funds)
 
interlog said:
What you forgot to mention is that he put his own money in first and that this 2k is a second chance bonus. Ok, very favourable terms but as you mentioned he can't cash it out all that often and is used to extend play time.

I am sure that, as with most gamblers, he is down on slot play at the end of the year (not taken into account any affiliate earning because they sit separate to the gambling funds)
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Come on interlog you know all about streaming. Of course he has to deposit 2k of his own money first, Who doesnt?

All i will say is give me 2k a day for 5 days a week and every week. I will soon be bloody rich, and of course the aff money on top as well..
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There isn't anyone who can genuinely deposit £2000 per week and expect to be taken at face value, it's a load of tripe

Nor is it 'their' money as it is funded through the affiliation side of things, caused in no small part to players' heavy losses. The 'best' streamers are the ones that have that side nailed down as it forms their 'income', which is then recycled as their 'own' money

And I guess to keep those signups a-rollin' they have to put on a bit of a lights and sound show, maybe do a little dance to keep their victims engaged. But please, PLEASE let's not pretend that any of this is by their own design and that depositing £2K a week is a natural or remotely realistic thing :laugh:
 
You know who i quoted interlog, and it was not the OP. But its fine just 1 of many i believe that too.

If you look at my quote prevoius page that i quoted DAVE1888 i DID say it was a deposit bonus.
 
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pinnit2014 said:
Bit late to the Party - seemingly i missed Playford wrestling semi nude, covered only in cheese sauce.

Oh well, always next Saturday.
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Is that sauce made from plain old cheese? Or....gulp....goat's cheese?

Or to put it another way.....

G's sauce instead of cheese sauce?

Well that's the tone lowered a notch or two....time to exit stage left before the ban hammers get brandished

:eek: :eek2: :axeman:
 
mcgameboy said:
Is that sauce made from plain old cheese? Or....gulp....goat's cheese?

Or to put it another way.....

G's sauce instead of cheese sauce?

Well that's the tone lowered a notch or two....time to exit stage left before the ban hammers get brandished

:eek: :eek2: :axeman:
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ALL the cheese.

Yes, let's keep the thread highbrow and lead us not into denigration, like a shower of reprobates.
 
pinnit2014 said:
Bit late to the Party - seemingly i missed Playford wrestling semi nude, covered only in cheese sauce.

Oh well, always next Saturday.
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Lol all the cheese is accounted for, hence my Michelin star corona cooking post..

can do jelly or bbq sauce if your that interested mate?...
 
CraiGDaniel said:
I'll be sure to rub my crystal balls and predict the future of every casino's operating license in future just for your satisfaction sir.
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With respect, Genesis were always on the poor side, and they were always going to get in the shit for the 'reserve bank' they introduced as soon as reverse was banned.
While you might not be able to predict the future, I think anyone involved in promoting casinos and caring about responsible gaming issues, would have stopped promoting them, when they did that, rather than wait for their license to be withdrawn.
Did you honestly think that blatantly doing a work round to get round LCCP changes wouldn't have any comeback on them?
 
And my question is if it does affect the rtp for others playing the same slot, because he is playing with “fake” money on “real” money slots.

I don’t really understand how it works but let’s say he got a full screen top symbol on book of dead, does that mean another player won’t get that one?
 
Wondah said:
And my question is if it does affect the rtp for others playing the same slot, because he is playing with “fake” money on “real” money slots.

I don’t really understand how it works but let’s say he got a full screen top symbol on book of dead, does that mean another player won’t get that one?
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No.
spins are irrelevant to the next spin or next player.

RTP is calculated over vast numbers and each spin is independent
 
It's an old, and tired, and trotted out analogy, but for the purpose of your Q it holds true.

Compare a slot machine to a bag of marbles, containing 9 black and one white (yes, yes, there's all gradients between...hang tight)


You dip in, youve that one in 10 chance grabbing the white marble (a win)
You spin again.
That marble isnt missing from the bag - it's put back one, youve still the 1 in 10 chance.


You get up leave, another player sits down.
Same deal.
That white marble goes back into the bag.
That player has the same 1 in 10 chance and for every subsequent dip (spin)

Overly-simplisitic, but you get the idea :)
 
Well, id still dare to claim its affecting games with jackpots if they win with fake money.

Unless the casinos allow them to cash that out.
 
It is an interesting moral issue if I'm understanding it correctly, via the funding given to the streamer the casino is effectively playing the games which have taken money from the public, but the casino in effect will hardly lose anything [only the cut they have to pay the slot provider 1%? or something like that] all the other losses roll back into their bank account along with the wins?

A bit like if somebody had their own physical casino with slot machines taking the public's money, but they can play the machines and just take their lost coins back out?

It's a bit hot and muggy today, so I could be confused but this scenario sounds a bit dodgy.

edit: if this is the same group that roshtein was affliated to, does it raise questions as to whether he was indeed spinning $50 of his own money at a time.
 
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mack341 said:
It is an interesting moral issue if I'm understanding it correctly, via the funding given to the streamer the casino is effectively playing the games which have taken money from the public, but the casino in effect will hardly lose anything [only the cut they have to pay the slot provider 1%? or something like that] all the other losses roll back into their bank account along with the wins?

A bit like if somebody had their own physical casino with slot machines taking the public's money, but they can play the machines and just take their lost coins back out?

It's a bit hot and muggy today, so I could be confused but this scenario sounds a bit dodgy.

edit: if this is the same group that roshtein was affliated to, does it raise questions as to whether he was indeed spinning $50 of his own money at a time.
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It would be equally a fascinating subject if one streamer on his response video admits openly his partner has to control his finances and he’s a gambling issue with bonus buys...

but this guy openly streams for a accredited casino here, so a openly self admitted problem gambler whom can’t handle bonus buys and uses his partner to manage his finances yet is used to promote a casino and publicly is ok?..

Out of pure respect I’ll not for the minute mention the casino etc...
But it’s very real and that alone to me shows how these streaming folks seem to sail above the law...

If I said on live chat my missus has to control my finances, I can’t handle bonus buys I’d be banned and not allowed to continue affiliation with said casino...never mind have a normal player account...

It shows the utter hypocrisy and disregard and wild Wild West behaviour that’s causing the issues in the first place... sorry this is why I’ve zero sympathy.
 
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