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Harry_BKK said:
Well, wait for the next release from BTG. I just had a first look and you might think soon WWTBAM is a great slot :D :D

Won't say anything further as I might get a legal warning again but it will have more than 117K ways to win.
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Don't you mean more than 117k ways to lose..... :D
 
Harry_BKK said:
No feature buy at least but instead a new mechanic for the FS which will keep you on the reels.
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Let me guess, it has a gamble your house feature at the 8 spin stage? and if you lose the gamble.

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electronictonic said:
Let me guess, it has a gamble your house feature at the 8 spin stage? and if you lose the gamble.

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Well, i made the other post 57 minutes ago and been playing it since then in fun mode. It took until now to trigger the best possible feature and it paid this on a EUR1.00 stake :oops:

So yes, you might lose your house playing it :D

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Harry_BKK said:
Well, i made the other post 57 minutes ago and been playing it in fun mode. It took until now to trigger the best possible feature and it paid this on a EUR1.00 stake :oops:

So yes, you might lose your house play it :D

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Brilliant, should be enough taxi fare to the nearest Bridge.
 
I instantly hate this game! had my first go on it today and finally got the feature. Gave me the chance to gamble from 8 to 10 spins and gave me the ask the audience. Option A was 79% and option C was 3%, yes you guessed it it was option C! WTF?
 
Harry_BKK said:
Well, wait for the next release from BTG. I just had a first look/spin and you might think soon WWTBAM is a great slot :D :D

Won't say anything further as I might get a legal warning again but it will have more than 117K ways to win.
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I'm guessing you think their new one is crap...

Blueprint do the megaways much better IMHO... And BTG seem to struggle outside of the Bonanza formula.
 
Harry_BKK said:
Well, wait for the next release from BTG. I just had a first look/spin and you might think soon WWTBAM is a great slot :D :D

Won't say anything further as I might get a legal warning again but it will have more than 117K ways to win.
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Only in the bonus levels 2 and 3...:thumbsup:
 
trancemonkey said:
I'm guessing you think their new one is crap...

Blueprint do the megaways much better IMHO... And BTG seem to struggle outside of the Bonanza formula.
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Well, they have a new pay and free spin mechanic that we have not seen yet on their slots. Plus, something completely new to award reel modifiers and collect the items to trigger the free spins, which have three levels.

But it is all going again into minimum 400 - 500+ spins territory to trigger the third level free spins, and that only if you didn't take level one and two. So, it's gonna be again a tedious slogging to get to the free spins which then can pay zilch, especially because some of the modifiers activate only if you retrigger the spins.

I scored one 300+ win on my fourth attempt but the other three were all below 25x. To get that much after one hour of toiling is just as disappointing as taking 8 fs on WWTBAM and Extra Chili.

Overall though, an interesting concept that will have punters line up again to play.
 
Harry_BKK said:
Well, they have a new pay and free spin mechanic that we have not seen yet on their slots. Plus, something completely new to award reel modifiers and collect the items to trigger the free spins, which have three levels.

But it is all going again into minimum 400 - 500+ spins territory to trigger the third level free spins, and that only if you didn't take level one and two. So, it's gonna be again a tedious slogging to get to the free spins which then can pay zilch, especially because some of the modifiers activate only if you retrigger the spins.

I scored one 300+ win on my fourth attempt but the other three were all below 25x. To get that much after one hour of toiling is just as disappointing as taking 8 fs on WWTBAM and Extra Chili.

Overall though, an interesting concept that will have punters line up again to play.
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I started making a game years ago where you could collect stuff to use in the free spins - but the problem was that there was no "quick way" to decent free games. If you got free games quickly after the last set, they were crap cos you hadn't collected anything.

I tried multiple solutions but none felt right. Scrapped it in the end.
 
Yup, there's that chasm BTG are striving to perfect in their quest to create the perfect money guzzler.

Make the 'potential' even more desirable, make free spins so sparse with a 500+ spin wait (so 1000 in reality) and create different 'levels' that make getting anything of note near enough impossible!

Their greed is pitiful, and this is anti-entertainment. Go BTG! :cheerleader:
 
trancemonkey said:
I started making a game years ago where you could collect stuff to use in the free spins - but the problem was that there was no "quick way" to decent free games. If you got free games quickly after the last set, they were crap cos you hadn't collected anything.

I tried multiple solutions but none felt right. Scrapped it in the end.
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I wish someone would hurry up and release another version of Mega Pots :D

Can’t you pull some strings and get someone to do a Must Drop By pot on Centurion? :D

Rob
 
goatwack said:
Yup, there's that chasm BTG are striving to perfect in their quest to create the perfect money guzzler.

Make the 'potential' even more desirable, make free spins so sparse with a 500+ spin wait (so 1000 in reality) and create different 'levels' that make getting anything of note near enough impossible!

Their greed is pitiful, and this is anti-entertainment. Go BTG! :cheerleader:
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Works so well, they made more slots and even more promises but delivered jack shit. This will go on and on as the money keeps on rolling in and they will keep spitting crap out.

Even if someone manages a 50kx hit or a 20kx hit, the sheer magnitude of non paying features and poor play in the games will ensure a rather healthy chunk of cash for them... They will use this cash injection to produce more marketing hype and produce more and more tripe.

Nate
 
goatwack said:
Yup, there's that chasm BTG are striving to perfect in their quest to create the perfect money guzzler.

Make the 'potential' even more desirable, make free spins so sparse with a 500+ spin wait (so 1000 in reality) and create different 'levels' that make getting anything of note near enough impossible!

Their greed is pitiful, and this is anti-entertainment. Go BTG! :cheerleader:
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With all things like this though, players either have to vote with their money. Or the UKGC may eventually ban or limit persistence.

They won't ban withdrawal reversals that are much worse of course....
 
Bonus distribution on this is awful, seems predetermined and it doesn't resemble the base game in any way. A double cascade or more is rare, Red Tiger bonuses pay better.
I'll probably get told each spin of the bonus has RNG call but if it does then it's got to be a limited RNG.

I do know for certain that bonuses on the same Mega-ways engine on Blueprint slots are predetermined.

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Harry_BKK said:
Well, they have a new pay and free spin mechanic that we have not seen yet on their slots. Plus, something completely new to award reel modifiers and collect the items to trigger the free spins, which have three levels.

But it is all going again into minimum 400 - 500+ spins territory to trigger the third level free spins, and that only if you didn't take level one and two. So, it's gonna be again a tedious slogging to get to the free spins which then can pay zilch, especially because some of the modifiers activate only if you retrigger the spins.

I scored one 300+ win on my fourth attempt but the other three were all below 25x. To get that much after one hour of toiling is just as disappointing as taking 8 fs on WWTBAM and Extra Chili.

Overall though, an interesting concept that will have punters line up again to play.
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I think it is a very good game and you in effect choose your own volatility. If you play Level one you'll get very frequent bonuses and a low-med volatility slot which still has big potential in the base game. If you only play level 3 you'll be lucky to get it before 12-1500 spins but the rewards are far higher. Level 1 was around 80-100 spins on average and ironically it gave me my best hit of all the bonuses! although admittedly I didn't have time to try Level 3 out. I think it's a very good game and far better than WWTBAM. Credit where it's due, BTG are light years ahead of other developers, like it or not.

Anyway, the BTG competition winners will have first dibs on CM and I'm sure they'll report back to you all when allowed to. In about 3 weeks all will be revealed when BTG give the go-ahead....
 
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dunover said:
BTG are light years ahead of other developers, like it or not.
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When it comes to ripping the majority of the players off you are right m8. :)
95% of their slots are balance destroyers.
They came with their mega ways slots that actually do not add anything to a slot for me (Got by far bigger wins on MGS 243 liners), they came with a buy a feature option which can demolish a players bankroll and more in minutes, very dangerous and if I would enforce the rules I would ban this crap instantly.

I have tried and played all their slots and have terrible terrible RTP figures on most of them.

The only slot that I actually like is DHV.
The rest is all absolute sh*te.

I do not like this company one bit and it is sad to see so many people fall for their fake bling bling I can pay you 114k mega ways slots.

I think many many people are suffering badly when playing these.

Danger Danger.

What is the amusement in playing their slots with 100s of dry spins without a single bonus feature, losing big, finally get a bonus and get paid 12x bet.
 
lotusch said:
When it comes to ripping the majority of the players off you are right m8. :)
95% of their slots are balance destroyers.
They came with their mega ways slots that actually do not add anything to a slot for me (Got by far bigger wins on MGS 243 liners), they came with a buy a feature option which can demolish a players bankroll and more in minutes, very dangerous and if I would enforce the rules I would ban this crap instantly.

I have tried and played all their slots and have terrible terrible RTP figures on most of them.

The only slot that I actually like is DHV.
The rest is all absolute sh*te.

I do not like this company one bit and it is sad to see so many people fall for their fake bling bling I can pay you 114k mega ways slots.

I think many many people are suffering badly when playing these.

Danger Danger.

What is the amusement in playing their slots with 100s of dry spins without a single bonus feature, losing big, finally get a bonus and get paid 12x bet.
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Like them or loathe them.... They are very succesful.
 
lotusch said:
When it comes to ripping the majority of the players off you are right m8. :)
95% of their slots are balance destroyers.
They came with their mega ways slots that actually do not add anything to a slot for me (Got by far bigger wins on MGS 243 liners), they came with a buy a feature option which can demolish a players bankroll and more in minutes, very dangerous and if I would enforce the rules I would ban this crap instantly.

I have tried and played all their slots and have terrible terrible RTP figures on most of them.

The only slot that I actually like is DHV.
The rest is all absolute sh*te.

I do not like this company one bit and it is sad to see so many people fall for their fake bling bling I can pay you 114k mega ways slots.

I think many many people are suffering badly when playing these.

Danger Danger.

What is the amusement in playing their slots with 100s of dry spins without a single bonus feature, losing big, finally get a bonus and get paid 12x bet.
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Ironically DHV is the one I like least! What you've just mentioned above is a pretty good description of HV slots, from all developers. The nature of them in case anyone has forgotten, is that in the short - medium term of say 10-250,000 spins every player will have a different RTP, some dramatically so. Chopley has a very good 110%-ish one, I have a Bonanza one of 100% + but not so good on the others. Some of you have under 80%.

There are HV games, think Novo! that will strip your bankroll far quicker than BTG Megaways games. I still think there's a lot of people around who don't really understand the maths of the games and have unrealistic expectations. Whatever any one of us says, they're a roaring success and I know there are numerous developers out there who are literally telling their guys 'make us a Bonanza'. Thus far, they've all failed. Aside from those who have hired out the Megaways license lol....
 
lotusch said:
I do not like this company one bit and it is sad to see so many people fall for their fake bling bling I can pay you 114k mega ways slots.
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You think people are playing BTG slots in record numbers because they're somehow being conned into playing them by what megaways and potential big wins? That's kind of insulting really. It's fine to say you don't like their style of games but most of what you said applies to any high variance slot capable of huge wins that people clearly want.
 
eizei said:
You think people are playing BTG slots in record numbers because they're somehow being conned into playing them by what megaways and potential big wins? That's kind of insulting really. It's fine to say you don't like their style of games but most of what you said applies to any high variance slot capable of huge wins that people clearly want.
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Okay fair point. :)
 
dunover said:
There are HV games, think Novo! that will strip your bankroll far quicker than BTG Megaways games.
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Oh I know that, you know I love Novo's but they can be harsh too indeed.
That said they have been good to me over the years while BTG slots have demolished a few times a very healthy balance and no they have not paid me back in any way.
DHV I am defo in the + and on the Rabbit themed one with the expanding reels because I was lucky enough to hit a mega win in my 2nd bonus.

Bonanza, Donuts, Extra Chili Megaways and some other titles I have not any decent win and I did my fair share of spins on them.

But yeah, I do not want to tell people not to play them.
It is just my personal opinion that these slots are so HV that the fun actually is gone.
HV is one thing, mega mega HV with a splinter of a chance to hit big is no fun for me anymore.
 
BTG are successful with Bonanza and the clones they spit out. Granted, Bonanza is a fun slot to play. The Megaways mechanic has been a total farce thus far. Promising big wins and delivering nothing. That is my gripe.

Plays like it can spit out 5000x bet every odd session but delivers nothing and demolishes bankrolls.

I think a lot of the seasoned players love HV slots here but also expect that there should be some potential and not just hype.

When Bonanza has been played to death and BTG doesnt even want to tell you it's TRUE potential then you know theres NO Potential.

They are a company that would go to lengths to boast about their games but are silent on that. That tells you what it's all about.

People can play their slots. If you enjoy them... sure go ahead and play. From the millions of spins just purely amongst the members here, it's clear as day that the Megaways is just a non-producing gimmick.

Add in gambles, feature buys and the loss of free spins and you have a little disaster brewing for most players.

Some people love them... some loathe them. Whatever your cuppa tea is, I think it's just a matter of sharing experiences.

At the end of the day apart from a fraction of players, who can tell me they won BIG on BIg Time Gaming???

Nate
 
trancemonkey said:
I started making a game years ago where you could collect stuff to use in the free spins - but the problem was that there was no "quick way" to decent free games. If you got free games quickly after the last set, they were crap cos you hadn't collected anything.

I tried multiple solutions but none felt right. Scrapped it in the end.
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Did you try the reel respin?
 
dunover said:
I think it is a very good game and you in effect choose your own volatility. If you play Level one you'll get very frequent bonuses and a low-med volatility slot which still has big potential in the base game. If you only play level 3 you'll be lucky to get it before 12-1500 spins but the rewards are far higher. Level 1 was around 80-100 spins on average and ironically it gave me my best hit of all the bonuses! although admittedly I didn't have time to try Level 3 out. I think it's a very good game and far better than WWTBAM. Credit where it's due, BTG are light years ahead of other developers, like it or not.

Anyway, the BTG competition winners will have first dibs on CM and I'm sure they'll report back to you all when allowed to. In about 3 weeks all will be revealed when BTG give the go-ahead....
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No doubt Dazza, all BTG game are interesting concepts and often totally unseen mechanics. They've done and do stuff nobody has even thought off so far.

What I meant with my comments is that the new game will be another wallet emptier that comes with promises for good wins if you have the guts and the money to wait, yet they will be again super rare.

To have a player wait 1 , 2, 3 hours with a 50 - 70% RTP base game to get to a bonus round, which seems now more often to pay very little (I remember Bonanza, at the beginning it was indeed around 100x bet on average, nowadays I am happy to get past 50x), is rather disappointing.
 
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Harry_BKK said:
No doubt Dazza, all BTG game are interesting concepts and often totally unseen mechanics. They've done and do stuff nobody has even thought off so far.

What I meant with my comments is that the new game will be another wallet emptier that comes with promises for good wins if you have the guts and the money to wait, yet they will be again super rare.

To have a player wait 1 , 2, 3 hours with a 50 - 70% RTP base game to get to a bonus round, which seems now more often to pay very little (I remember Bonanza, at the beginning it was indeed around 100x bet on average, nowadays I am happy to get past 50x), is rather disappointing.
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Other than Megaways (which also wasn't totally new as Aristocrat did reel grids which could expand any of the 5 reels in any game to make more ways... Superman was one failed game that did it although it changed the number of ways much less often) BTG haven't really done anything totally unique. Maybe with tjr exception of thr feature on White Rabbit.

However they have taken existing concepts and modified them well.
 
nikantw said:
Kind of what Dragon Dance has. Give the option to respin any reel (for a price) to complete a desired combination. One could collect all and get the feature just by respinning.
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That's not a short cut... a short cut is where I can get the feature within one spin. For one credit. Not where I have to save up over 1500 spins...

I'm told there is staring to be a lot of dislike towards Yggdrasil games because of this ... And I think it's something the UKGC will look at. Problem is, they will blanket ban persistence rather than stopping companies taking the piss....
 
As it stands the base game pays way better than any bonus.
Last bonus today 14 spins paid £5, whats the point in playing this.

My BTG play last night 4 slots minimum bets, £120 loss, 50% RTP and only one bonus paid 20xbet on Bonanza.

Struggling to find a decent new slot to play these days, tried Push Gaming and never won more than 5xbet in 200 spins.
 
Is it possible to get a bonus on this game where at least half the spins aren’t dead?

Given the fact that 90% of the bonuses on this will be only 10 spins if you go by BTG’s ‘best strategy’ it’s a bloody miracle to get past about 8X multiplier.

Also imo way to much is made of this more common 117649 ways. The vast majority of them produce nothing. 5% of them produce a few 3 of a kind wins before the strategically random placed ‘blocker’ reel halts any progression. The odd few % give 50 to 100x the remaining 0.01 % may throw in a Dunover style bonanza win. In relation to the amount of times these 117649 show up its by far BTG’s most common LOSING spin. It’s just another way of sticking a middle finger up at the player putting these types of spins into the game. BTG’s classic niche of promising so much but delivering so little.
 
PMKFRUITPRO said:
Is it possible to get a bonus on this game where at least half the spins aren’t dead?

Given the fact that 90% of the bonuses on this will be only 10 spins if you go by BTG’s ‘best strategy’ it’s a bloody miracle to get past about 8X multiplier.

Also imo way to much is made of this more common 117649 ways. The vast majority of them produce nothing. 5% of them produce a few 3 of a kind wins before the strategically random placed ‘blocker’ reel halts any progression. The odd few % give 50 to 100x the remaining 0.01 % may throw in a Dunover style bonanza win. In relation to the amount of times these 117649 show up its by far BTG’s most common LOSING spin. It’s just another way of sticking a middle finger up at the player putting these types of spins into the game. BTG’s classic niche of promising so much but delivering so little.
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I think conceptually you have to see the 19457346546843263574674 ways to win as being similar to the first wave of 243-way slots, whereby all of a sudden we had to get used to 5OAKs paying a lot less than had previously been the case, and 3OAKs being mere pennies. The increase from 20-25 winlines to 243 ways had to be compensated for somehow.

In the case of WWTBAM we've got to account for all the ways to win, the multiplier, and the fact that the game can trigger the round with 50 free spins - so god knows what shenanigans it's up to with the maths behind the scenes to make sure it doesn't lob out ridiculous wins all the time and run to 400% RTP.

At the end of the day this thing is running to the same RTP as everything else, maybe the feature frequency is lower and the average pay is a bit higher, but fundamentally it's the same sort of maths distribution as online slots have had for ever.
 
PMKFRUITPRO said:
Is it possible to get a bonus on this game where at least half the spins aren’t dead?

Given the fact that 90% of the bonuses on this will be only 10 spins if you go by BTG’s ‘best strategy’ it’s a bloody miracle to get past about 8X multiplier.

Also imo way to much is made of this more common 117649 ways. The vast majority of them produce nothing. 5% of them produce a few 3 of a kind wins before the strategically random placed ‘blocker’ reel halts any progression. The odd few % give 50 to 100x the remaining 0.01 % may throw in a Dunover style bonanza win. In relation to the amount of times these 117649 show up its by far BTG’s most common LOSING spin. It’s just another way of sticking a middle finger up at the player putting these types of spins into the game. BTG’s classic niche of promising so much but delivering so little.
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By rights if it's reflecting the base game average win frequency of about 2.67 spins, a 10-spin bonus should only yield just under 4 winning spins on average. :thumbsup:
Which is around what you said. :)
 

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