BetFair and Zero house edge? benefits?

[AudiManinBoro]

Just trying to decipher the ramifications of this and whether its truly a big advantage to the player! Any thoughts?

 

[Christoff]

It's a great theory in principle but I have never played there.

If their Casino product is half as good as their betting product, then it will great.

 

[happygobrokey]

methinks you gotsa be vip to play there, so it's kind of just like comps. house edge is nullified provided you have played and afterwards continue to play such and such amount per some unit time.

wonder how it works though for a card game like blackjack? simply a refund of 0.5% of your wager on each hand? when stated that way it seems kinda lame, actually. but it's still 5x what playtech offers for comps.(right?)

cool innovative idea though definitely.

 

[dealer wins]

I tried this casino a while back.

Roulette has no zero.

Blackjack has favourable rules to make the game 0% edge. (Suited blackjack pays 2-1 and 5 card 21 pays 2-1.)

You dont need to be a VIP or anything to play just sign up!!!

 

[hitobito2005]

It's great for a casual gambler. You won't lose anything in the long run, and while Betfair won't make anything from it, they'll get good publicity.

 

[happygobrokey]

that's great. is that five cards sub-21 or making 21 on the nose?

 

[RedArmy]

Zero Lounge!

Greetings, I wanted to start discussions about this unique casino product, (and not cos i am just a Rep!) but i guess an opportunity has presented itself!

Zero lounge - the truth and nothing but the truth!
We have reduced the odds for the 4 most popular casino games to take out house edge. We do have a cap on the bet amount, but we are looking at increasing these!

But How can a Casino have 100% PAYOUT you might wonder? Well, you get to play against your optimal strategy! In theory the risk on these bets is 50/50 so play well in the long run and you have a real shot!

Betfair.com is a company that leads innovation and delivers gaming solutions to the punter's advantage. Essentially, our main Sports product is an Exchange where you bet against other people - not the HOUSE! This gives on average 20% better odds over time.

I invite all of you to try the casino on the special bonus i have created for CasinoMeister Old / Expired Link no deposit required.

I welcome any suggestions and feedback, both positive and negative, and you have my word that we will continue innovating and improving our Casino to improve your experience

RedArmy

 

[RedArmy]

happygobrokey Blackjack question

Dear happygobrokey,

Its on the nose, so u gotta make up 21 with 5 cards.



Rearmy

 

[aka23]

Just trying to decipher the ramifications of this and whether its truly a big advantage to the player! Any thoughts?

I wouldn't say "advantage" because the player has no advantage in these games and is not expected to win money over time. I suppose it is an advantage in the sense that the player has better odds than standard. The 4 available "zero house edge" games are blackjack, roulette, baccarat, and Jacks or Better.

Roulette and Jacks or Better indeed have a house edge of 0%. Wizard of Odds estimated the house edge of zero baccarat as 0.03% I believe WoO caclulation was done assuming 6-8 decks. The game would need to be single deck for 0.00%. I'm not sure how many decks the game uses. Blackjack is more complicated because the typical player will not play in such a way to achieve a 0% house edge. However, the house edge will be lower than all but a few single deck games (Boss Media, maybe Crypto) with typical strategy.

I think offering near-zero games like this is an excellent addition. It would be nice if more game options were available, but I can see the reasons for not wanting to provide zero house edge versions of all games in the main casino.

 

[happygobrokey]

so where can we find a strat card that factors in the number of cards and the actions wrt a five card hand totalling 21 exactly?

another question, what if you have a five card hand of less than 21? if you eventually make 21 with 6+ cards is that also 2:1 or is it strictly five cards?

 

[Rusty]

Greetings, I wanted to start discussions about this unique casino product, (and not cos i am just a Rep!) but i guess an opportunity has presented itself!

Zero lounge - the truth and nothing but the truth!
We have reduced the odds for the 4 most popular casino games to take out house edge. We do have a cap on the bet amount, but we are looking at increasing these!

But How can a Casino have 100% PAYOUT you might wonder? Well, you get to play against your optimal strategy! In theory the risk on these bets is 50/50 so play well in the long run and you have a real shot!

Betfair.com is a company that leads innovation and delivers gaming solutions to the punter's advantage. Essentially, our main Sports product is an Exchange where you bet against other people - not the HOUSE! This gives on average 20% better odds over time.

I invite all of you to try the casino on the special bonus i have created for CasinoMeister Old / Expired Link no deposit required.

I welcome any suggestions and feedback, both positive and negative, and you have my word that we will continue innovating and improving our Casino to improve your experience

RedArmy

Bahh opened an account for my pops and no free credit

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Just email th erep and im sure he will sort it out for you. Its certainly a good incentive for table game players.

 

[Casinomeister]

The specific information concerning the free $10 is here:
https://www.casinomeister.com/bonus-offers/

It can take up to 72 hours, but if Redarmy is around, he might be able to expedite it.

 

[peteyweestro]

out in the cold

i guess this doesn't apply to usa customers right, meaning the casino won't accept us for now??

 

[Slotster!]

i guess this doesn't apply to usa customers right, meaning the casino won't accept us for now??

So why $10 and not 10?

 

[EasyRhino]

I assume the blackjack and video poker payouts assume perfect play. Very very few people play perfectly, so the casinos still gets its vig.

 

[happygobrokey]

can you play it in free/fun/"practice" mode? i want to know if six cards making 21 spot on also pays 2:1 or if it must be 5 cards exactly totalling 21 exactly? but moreover, i want a strat card for such a variant. waaaah!

 

[RedArmy]

zero lounge - questions

i will get you an answer in a few hours regarding that 21 combinations. Personally i believe that if you manage to get all 6, this should only act as a bonus.

Yeah about the free bonus, takes me 48 hours but i think we already credited some last night. I will chase this today for the weekend action

RedArmy

any good suggestions on how the casino product could be improved etc will be rewarded - I am thinking of doing a Zero Black Jack $300 8 player buy-in at $10. The winner keeps the lot. Who wants in?

Casinomeister has already been graciously entered if it happens (sorry its a compulsory,Vortran007 from the line of Xtran Model Series 5200,should be good for odds calculation )

 

[RedArmy]

5 cards only

Sorry but you will need 5 cards max on this one.

Cheerio,

RedArmy

 

[SlotMonster]

Question

1. I want to receive bonus but I registered before I got news about 10$ free. So I didn't enter the bonus code.
2. I have no CC. Can I receive the bonus?

 

[RedArmy]

SlotMonster

I will envestigate this one. I introduced the bonus for the new members only, but give me a few days to verify that.

I will make a post here thereafter.

RedArmy

 

[SlotMonster]

By the way, I tried to play one of "Zero" games (All Aces VP)
Perfect! This "Zero" game was "2x deposit" game for me

P.S. But minimum 10$ on roulette and BJ is no good

 

[RedArmy]

Zero Lounge

Glad you enjoyed some features. We will be reveiwing our limits on the Zero lounge in the next couple of months. I do want to reduce the minimum and increase the maximum

A grand on RED?

Anyone having any issues with the Free bonus for Casinomeister? Old / Expired Link

yours......RedArmy

 

[RedArmy]

SlotMonster

Hi, sorry give me your account details and i will take a look what i can do.

we are here to pleaseeeeeeeeeeee

RedArmy

 

[Alexandre]

any good suggestions on how the casino product could be improved etc will be rewarded

Leaving the same limits on the no zero roulette as on the normal one would be a good start.
The way you've settled the limits makes it impossible to use a basic strategy.