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BetFair and Zero house edge? benefits?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by AudiManinBoro, Jul 26, 2007.

    Jul 26, 2007
  1. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

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    Just trying to decipher the ramifications of this and whether its truly a big advantage to the player! Any thoughts?
     
  2. Jul 26, 2007
  3. Christoff

    Christoff Experienced Member

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    It's a great theory in principle but I have never played there.

    If their Casino product is half as good as their betting product, then it will great.
     
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  4. Jul 26, 2007
  5. happygobrokey

    happygobrokey Dormant account

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    student of life
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    methinks you gotsa be vip to play there, so it's kind of just like comps. house edge is nullified provided you have played and afterwards continue to play such and such amount per some unit time.

    wonder how it works though for a card game like blackjack? simply a refund of 0.5% of your wager on each hand? when stated that way it seems kinda lame, actually. but it's still 5x what playtech offers for comps.(right?)

    cool innovative idea though definitely.:thumbsup:
     
  6. Jul 26, 2007
  7. dealer wins

    dealer wins Experienced Member

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    I tried this casino a while back.

    Roulette has no zero.

    Blackjack has favourable rules to make the game 0% edge. (Suited blackjack pays 2-1 and 5 card 21 pays 2-1.)

    You dont need to be a VIP or anything to play just sign up!!!
     
  8. Jul 26, 2007
  9. liquuid_fusion

    liquuid_fusion Meister Member PABnorogue PABnononaccred2 PABaccred

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    It's great for a casual gambler. You won't lose anything in the long run, and while Betfair won't make anything from it, they'll get good publicity.
     
  10. Jul 26, 2007
  11. happygobrokey

    happygobrokey Dormant account

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    that's great. is that five cards sub-21 or making 21 on the nose?
     
  12. Jul 26, 2007
  13. RedArmy

    RedArmy Dormant account

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    Casino Affiliates
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    UK
    Zero Lounge!

    Greetings, I wanted to start discussions about this unique casino product, (and not cos i am just a Rep!) but i guess an opportunity has presented itself!

    Zero lounge - the truth and nothing but the truth! :thumbsup:
    We have reduced the odds for the 4 most popular casino games to take out house edge. We do have a cap on the bet amount, but we are looking at increasing these! :eek2:

    But How can a Casino have 100% PAYOUT you might wonder? Well, you get to play against your optimal strategy! In theory the risk on these bets is 50/50 so play well in the long run and you have a real shot! :thumbsup:

    Betfair.com is a company that leads innovation and delivers gaming solutions to the punter's advantage. Essentially, our main Sports product is an Exchange where you bet against other people - not the HOUSE! This gives on average 20% better odds over time.

    I invite all of you to try the casino on the special bonus i have created for CasinoMeister You must register/login in order to see the link. no deposit required.

    I welcome any suggestions and feedback, both positive and negative, and you have my word that we will continue innovating and improving our Casino to improve your experience

    RedArmy :thumbsup:
     
  14. Jul 26, 2007
  15. RedArmy

    RedArmy Dormant account

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    happygobrokey Blackjack question

    Dear happygobrokey,

    Its on the nose, so u gotta make up 21 with 5 cards.

    :thumbsup:

    Rearmy
     
  16. Jul 26, 2007
  17. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

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    I wouldn't say "advantage" because the player has no advantage in these games and is not expected to win money over time. I suppose it is an advantage in the sense that the player has better odds than standard. The 4 available "zero house edge" games are blackjack, roulette, baccarat, and Jacks or Better.

    Roulette and Jacks or Better indeed have a house edge of 0%. Wizard of Odds estimated the house edge of zero baccarat as 0.03% I believe WoO caclulation was done assuming 6-8 decks. The game would need to be single deck for 0.00%. I'm not sure how many decks the game uses. Blackjack is more complicated because the typical player will not play in such a way to achieve a 0% house edge. However, the house edge will be lower than all but a few single deck games (Boss Media, maybe Crypto) with typical strategy.

    I think offering near-zero games like this is an excellent addition. It would be nice if more game options were available, but I can see the reasons for not wanting to provide zero house edge versions of all games in the main casino.
     
  18. Jul 26, 2007
  19. happygobrokey

    happygobrokey Dormant account

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    so where can we find a strat card that factors in the number of cards and the actions wrt a five card hand totalling 21 exactly?

    another question, what if you have a five card hand of less than 21? if you eventually make 21 with 6+ cards is that also 2:1 or is it strictly five cards?
     
  20. Jul 26, 2007
  21. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    Bahh opened an account for my pops and no free credit :mad:
     
  22. Jul 26, 2007
  23. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

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    Just email th erep and im sure he will sort it out for you. Its certainly a good incentive for table game players.
     
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  24. Jul 26, 2007
  25. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    2 people like this.
  26. Jul 26, 2007
  27. peteyweestro

    peteyweestro Senior Member

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    out in the cold

    :mad:i guess this doesn't apply to usa customers right, meaning the casino won't accept us for now??
     
  28. Jul 26, 2007
  29. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

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    So why $10 and not 10? :confused:
     
  30. Jul 27, 2007
  31. EasyRhino

    EasyRhino Dormant account

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    I assume the blackjack and video poker payouts assume perfect play. Very very few people play perfectly, so the casinos still gets its vig.
     
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  32. Jul 27, 2007
  33. happygobrokey

    happygobrokey Dormant account

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    can you play it in free/fun/"practice" mode? i want to know if six cards making 21 spot on also pays 2:1 or if it must be 5 cards exactly totalling 21 exactly? but moreover, i want a strat card for such a variant. waaaah!:eek:
     
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  34. Jul 27, 2007
  35. RedArmy

    RedArmy Dormant account

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    UK
    zero lounge - questions

    i will get you an answer in a few hours regarding that 21 combinations. Personally i believe that if you manage to get all 6, this should only act as a bonus.:eek2:

    Yeah about the free bonus, takes me 48 hours but i think we already credited some last night. I will chase this today for the weekend action ;)

    RedArmy

    any good suggestions on how the casino product could be improved etc will be rewarded - I am thinking of doing a Zero Black Jack $300 8 player buy-in at $10. The winner keeps the lot. Who wants in?

    Casinomeister has already been graciously entered if it happens (sorry its a compulsory,Vortran007 from the line of Xtran Model Series 5200,should be good for odds calculation :D )
     
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  36. Jul 27, 2007
  37. RedArmy

    RedArmy Dormant account

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    5 cards only

    Sorry but you will need 5 cards max on this one.

    Cheerio,

    RedArmy
     
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  38. Jul 27, 2007
  39. SlotMonster

    SlotMonster SoftSwiss Representative webmeister

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    Question

    1. I want to receive bonus but I registered before I got news about 10$ free. So I didn't enter the bonus code.
    2. I have no CC. Can I receive the bonus? :what:
     

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