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silly meKK was just having fun with him and his play on words
i think i am a bit confused by his(?) avatar that looks like reda's.
silly meKK was just having fun with him and his play on words
Heya,
The RTG random jackpots actually work slightly diifferently to what you've indicated.
The system you describe is used when there is a range-based jackpot (similar to many used in Australian clubs), where the jackpot must go off within certain boundaries (e.g.: Between $1000 and $10000).
In those sorts of jackpots the next trigger level is randomly determined at the time that the jackpot resets (e.g.: next trigger will be at $5673.28)
As you describe, in range-based jackpots the bet that contributes the 1c that would take the jackpot to its pre-determined trigger amount will win the jackpot.
RTG random jackpots, however, are not range-based jackpots.
They are truly random, in that there is simply a chance of 1 in (n) of triggering the jackpot, checked at the end of a given paid game (i.e.: It does not check for a trigger at the end of each game during a free game series, but rather at the end of all events that have triggered from the original bet).
The chance is proportionately modified according to the size of the player's bet, so a player betting $10, for instance, will have 10 times the chance of triggering the random jackpot in comparison to a player betting $1, and 1000 times the chance of triggering versus a player betting 1c.
Hope it helps
Woooof
KasinoKing: Is that a new casino?
Only I've never heard of Lucy Red before...
I think you may have mis-understood what Dogboy said...Just sent you a PM... Inetbet CSR support told me that "Dogboy" has already stated that bet size has no influence on odds of hitting RJ. So someone betting 1c has SAME chance as someone betting $10. So I sent you Private Msg to clarify. thanks!
I think you may have mis-understood what Dogboy said...
He definitely said the case is that someone playing a single $10 spin has 10 x more chance of hitting the RJ than someone playing a single $1 spin.
Anything else would not be fair.
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You are right KK. Only, its NOT ME that's confused. I got that straight from Inetbet CSR Rep "James". He told me that there is no reason to bet more, you have the same chance and odds of hitting an RJ no matter what your bet size. Here's his followup again.. and notice the funny part when he says basically why do I want a mgr to review all of this... lol ; if you re-read the chain mail starting from the bottom.. you will see first he says "chances" are the same. The he later says "odds" are the same but chances increase. Then he says the chances are the same again. Now he says "odds" are the same. hahahaha ; blimey, this seemed like an easy *ss question. I just wanted to know if it makes sense IF YOU ARE CHASING THE RJ, to bet more $ per spin. And I agree with you KK, it does make sense. A guy betting 1cent per spin should have far less chance than someone betting $1/spin. But that's not what James at Inetbet told me.
From Inetbet:
<<Quoting me (JIMB): There seems to be some debate on CasinoMeister about whether bet size affects PROBABILITY of hitting a Random Jackpot at RTG casinos.
But does someone betting Max Lines and $1 or $10 total bet size have a greater chance of hitting the Random Jackpot?
Inetbet Reply:
This was actually what you asked, when anyone asks this question they are talking about individual bets and does it change their odds of winning and no i am not changing what I said. The odds remain the same no matter what the individual bet size.
I am unsure what you mean by have a manager review the situation, please explain.
If this is the kind of service I'm gonna get from Inetbet.. back and forth and back and forth with different and confusing answers, I can't wait until I have a real dispute with them.
I'm 90% sure I now want to close my acct and instead use Lock or CherryRed. Anyone want to recommend a good RTG casino where they dont question WHY you want a mgr to review an impasse in communication?
J~
====Doesn't surprise me. I emailed a couple days ago asking them if I bet $1 for one spin on a random jackpot slot, how much gets put into the random jackpot.
No response. I don't think they know...
...I guess I stand corrected.
I know it isnt exactly how it works, but RTG reps have explained it to me in that form before to demonstrate how bigger bets give more chances, with the exception in reality being that the software doesnt pre-determine at what point the jackpot will go off (or so we are told).
Just trying to simplify for those who are new etc.
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All i need is someone to tell me WHICH GAME AND WHEN so I can win the biggest RJ ever and have my name splattered all over CasinoMeister so everyone can start asking me the same questions all day long. And I can tell them what my 'secret' is. And then I'm going on a long vacation -- somewhere with a beach. So please, someone, anyone.. i need a casino name, game name and exact bet size and time to spin. I'm happy to share 20% as a Finders Fee lol
As the girl in Aliens (2) said, "Look man. I just need to know one thing. Where they are!!"
I think you may have mis-understood what Dogboy said...
He definitely said the case is that someone playing a single $10 spin has 10 x more chance of hitting the RJ than someone playing a single $1 spin.
Anything else would not be fair.
KK[/QUOTE
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You are right KK. Only, its NOT ME that's confused. I got that straight from Inetbet CSR Rep "James". He told me that there is no reason to bet more, you have the same chance and odds of hitting an RJ no matter what your bet size. Here's his followup again.. and notice the funny part when he says basically why do I want a mgr to review all of this... lol ; if you re-read the chain mail starting from the bottom.. you will see first he says "chances" are the same. The he later says "odds" are the same but chances increase. Then he says the chances are the same again. Now he says "odds" are the same. hahahaha ; blimey, this seemed like an easy *ss question. I just wanted to know if it makes sense IF YOU ARE CHASING THE RJ, to bet more $ per spin. And I agree with you KK, it does make sense. A guy betting 1cent per spin should have far less chance than someone betting $1/spin. But that's not what James at Inetbet told me.
From Inetbet:
<<Quoting me (JIMB): There seems to be some debate on CasinoMeister about whether bet size affects PROBABILITY of hitting a Random Jackpot at RTG casinos.
But does someone betting Max Lines and $1 or $10 total bet size have a greater chance of hitting the Random Jackpot?
Inetbet Reply:
This was actually what you asked, when anyone asks this question they are talking about individual bets and does it change their odds of winning and no i am not changing what I said. The odds remain the same no matter what the individual bet size.
I am unsure what you mean by have a manager review the situation, please explain.
Inetbet is quite good at this ie not answering customers' questions directly with statements that are factually correct. You were asking whether the size of your bet had any effect on your chances of hitting the RJ. They answered that the size of the bet does not change the odds of winning and they are correct. Why? Because they are talking about 2 different things. Regardless of how much one bets, the intrinsic odds eg 1 in 1 million for every $1 bet remains constant throughout. So you can bet all you like but the odds remain constant at 1 in 1 million for each $1 wagered.
Talk about poor customer service. Someone asks a simple question and they answer indirectly with statements of their choice.