All horse racing suspended in the UK from tomorrow

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I am an advocate for greyhounds (greylady), hounds that are used as a disposable commodity for entertainment and go through horrendous abuse in the process - wish people would understand what they are supporting by attending greyhound racing!

my comment wasn’t supporting Greyhound Racing. Merely stating it was still running.
 

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My apologies, I misunderstood and thought you were going to the races as such :)

not at all. I have been a couple of times though with work.
My personal thoughts on it? I don’t know if I’m honest I have seen the protestors and such.

I do think jump horse racing is outdated ahead of anything else. Far too dangerous and risky.
 

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Such a shame I just don't get why it couldn't go on, it i betting the fund the sport anyway.

So many jobs and so many unpaid staff. This overreaction is a disgrace and someone needs to pay for this long term for the damage it does to all these industries.
 
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I don't get that either.

Anyway - I'm not sure why the horses can't be raced anyway. Do they really need a stadium full of people to get the race going?

Every track needs an ambulance to race round the track for jockey falls and an ambulance within the stands and I think at least 4 paramedics over 5 meetings a day at least 20 staff and 10 ambulances that could be better put to use I'd say in the circumstances
 

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Every track needs an ambulance to race round the track for jockey falls and an ambulance within the stands and I think at least 4 paramedics over 5 meetings a day at least 20 staff and 10 ambulances that could be better put to use I'd say in the circumstances

they need 2*

most racecourses pay for them privately anyway.
 

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I am an advocate for greyhounds (greylady), hounds that are used as a disposable commodity for entertainment and go through horrendous abuse in the process - wish people would understand what they are supporting by attending greyhound racing!
Back in 1991 I moved to live and work near Lingfield in the sticks. I became mates with a regular customer. After some time I visited their farm which breeded and trained Greyhounds. They where mostly sent to Ireland to be sold back on around the UK for some reason? It was at that farm that I first took interest in how they where treat. Any that where not up to standard where simply shot and disposed of. The rest where not treat with kindness at all. After witnessing that I asked some more questions and it really didn't sit well with me.

But the trouble with the animals in sport issue is quite a complex one. Would you rather there be no animals in sport and 95% of those animals be culled because they are no longer needed or financially viable?
 

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not at all. I have been a couple of times though with work.
My personal thoughts on it? I don’t know if I’m honest I have seen the protestors and such.

I do think jump horse racing is outdated ahead of anything else. Far too dangerous and risky.
Flat racing is just as risky. These horses are trained to the max before they race in earnest for the first time and long before their bones have developed enough to endure the impact. I wonder how many have to be put down before they ever reach a racetrack?
I know and hold my hands up. I may well be a hypocrite. But many of us are in some things in life
 

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Back in 1991 I moved to live and work near Lingfield in the sticks. I became mates with a regular customer. After some time I visited their farm which breeded and trained Greyhounds. They where mostly sent to Ireland to be sold back on around the UK for some reason? It was at that farm that I first took interest in how they where treat. Any that where not up to standard where simply shot and disposed of. The rest where not treat with kindness at all. After witnessing that I asked some more questions and it really didn't sit well with me.

But the trouble with the animals in sport issue is quite a complex one. Would you rather there be no animals in sport and 95% of those animals be culled because they are no longer needed or financially viable?

There are greyhound rescues all over the UK. When the tracks started closing, we all came together and the numbers we placed into rescue was astounding and the condition of them was nothing short of total neglect!

I had one hound who was hit on the head with a hammer and hung with wire but he managed to escape alive. He was eventually rescued by which time one eye was lower than the other and he had deep scarring to his neck - I adopted him, had him six weeks and I had to get him put to sleep after he ripped my mum's face open, she bent down to pick something up and he went for her. The vet thought the signals to his brain were short wired after having his skull beaten!

Greyhounds are one the gentlest and trusting breeds out there and what do we as humans do, abuse them for monetary gain, dispose of them in a despicable manner when they are no longer lucrative - I totally abhor the sport!!
 

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My understanding is that all the BAGS tracks have pretty strict checking in place to ensure the well-being of the greyhounds, both during and after their career. Is that the case or just something that SIS etc push to justify it?
Having said that, I'm fully aware of the treatment some dogs get at the smaller tracks, and the owners should be shot for allowing it.
 

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Racing and animal sports are steeped in obscene amounts of money and so with it comes the corrupt element.

In an ideal world I'd have no qualms about all horses, dogs etc being raised and treated equally well, I don't think that will ever happen however.

I don't draw that connection that racing is inherently bad because there's a nasty element in the industry, because in its base form, dog or horse racing is just a spectacle like any other. Bet on _____, watch ______ win, nothing wrong with that.

So whilst animal abuse is abhorrent in all its forms, it annoys me equally seeing local beer-swigging chavs shout their dogs into submission, stories of ASBO-parading residents abandoning their animals to perish in their houses, or any number of TV ad tragedies that befall every ad break. Not to mention what practices go on in 'developing' countries
 

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My understanding is that all the BAGS tracks have pretty strict checking in place to ensure the well-being of the greyhounds, both during and after their career. Is that the case or just something that SIS etc push to justify it?
Having said that, I'm fully aware of the treatment some dogs get at the smaller tracks, and the owners should be shot for allowing it.


There is so much overlooked or turn a blind eye to what goes on, it's shocking!

I admit there are some good trainers out there who actually care for their hounds and will wait for a rescue place to become available but there are plenty out there who don't give a damn!
 

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Currently around 1/2 that racing will resume in the UK by June 1st, so looking at that, we might get some soon.
 

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It's being pretty widely reported that horse racing will resume in France on May 11. The sports minister has stated that all sporting events will be cancelled until September, but horse racing isn't classed as sport in France, it comes under agriculture
 

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It's being pretty widely reported that horse racing will resume in France on May 11. The sports minister has stated that all sporting events will be cancelled until September, but horse racing isn't classed as sport in France, it comes under agriculture

So should their rugby.
 

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It's being pretty widely reported that horse racing will resume in France on May 11. The sports minister has stated that all sporting events will be cancelled until September, but horse racing isn't classed as sport in France, it comes under agriculture
I've quite enjoyed the racing from America and now we have French racing from tomorrow. I'm quite pleased about getting introduced to American racing. Bring on racing in the UK soon :)
 

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I've quite enjoyed the racing from America and now we have French racing from tomorrow. I'm quite pleased about getting introduced to American racing. Bring on racing in the UK soon :)

Shouldn't be too much longer, was talking to my brother earlier who works for an on course bookie, and he reckons it will be starting behind closed doors within a month or so, or at least thats what the current plans are.
 

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Shouldn't be too much longer, was talking to my brother earlier who works for an on course bookie, and he reckons it will be starting behind closed doors within a month or so, or at least thats what the current plans are.
As long as there are races in my time zone while I am off to keep me occupied then I am happy.But UK racing is my livelyhood in part,or should have been this year :(
 

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As long as there are races in my time zone while I am off to keep me occupied then I am happy.But UK racing is my livelyhood in part,or should have been this year :(
Same for my brother, he had already gone part time as the bookie had cut the tracks he worked at, people think they make a fortune, but places like Pontefract on a wet Wednesday evening rarely covered costs let alone made anything, so they cut them down to the main meetings, & obviously hasn't worked since Cheltenham really. Obviously they don't have the casino side to fall back on either.
 

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I got this info from bet365 today:


Horse Racing:

France has been given the green light to resume horse racing and it opened today with a wonderful card at Paris Longchamp, it continues throughout the week with a number of meetings also taking place at the weekend. Some of the highlight races are shown below:



- Saint-Léger des Trotteurs @ Caen on Wednesday

- Prix de La Force et Vanteaux @ Paris Longchamp on Thursday

- Murat Prize and Great Spring Hurdles Race @ Auteuil on Saturday

- Amadou Prize, Léon Rambaud, Jean Stern and President of the Republic @ Auteuil on Sunday – two of these are Group races and will prove very popular with UK fans.

If this means anything to you :oops:
 
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