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Guntis said:
I haven’t checked it out properly yet either, but some people are saying that it’s good for coding and all sorts of web tasks. It would also be nice if they allowed you to create your own agents where you can upload your .txt files for each with specific instructions.

I'll try installing Open WebUI as he shows in the video - maybe it allows to create a custom interface with some nice features. And then add DeepSeek-R1 and Claude models to it via Ollama.

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Let me know how you get on, seriously. My holy grail as it were, is to be able to run a large a model as feasible with a good response rate and technically, more or less on point. Meanwhile, I am still tinkering around with my web ui.

Certainly eye opening as well as great fun, with the end result hopefully being well worth the time and effort.
 
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I don't understand the 'knocking' Chopley. No one is forcing you to use AI or embrace it. The purpose of this thread was based on my own genuine interest. How I am leveraging AI locally on my own hardware, to help assist me in my day to day work.

As well as being fascinated by the technology, the very real benefits I also get is a positive. The purpose of this thread is meant to be a positive one.

I get it, you don't like AI. Quite simple then, don't bother using it and move on, no one is forcing you to embrace it. :-)
 
It's part of the conversation though, MS are already reporting that their enterprise customers just aren't buying into AI once there's a cost associated with it, and real world enterprise examples of it doing useful stuff are hard to find. Google are ramping up sub costs and bundling AI with all sorts of their products to make its 'uptake' look better.

As previously discussed, what you're doing with it is highly technical, bespoke, and running entirely locally - if everyone did that its commercial prospects would be...... limited :)

It's not AI anyway, it's machine learning, which is an entirely different thing and the bullshit branding exercise the tech industry is trying to pull irks me.

I'm interested in AI too, but more from the angle of seeing what nonsense the tech industry will come up with next to foist it upon a world that's largely indifferent and most certainly isn't interested in paying for it.
 
Webzcas said:
Let me know how you get on, seriously. My holy grail as it were, is to be able to run a large a model as feasible with a good response rate and technically, more or less on point. Meanwhile, I am still tinkering around with my web ui.

Certainly eye opening as well as great fun, with the end result hopefully being well worth the time and effort.
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In short - a local one isn't for me. Essentially i need a few smart agents for specific tasks like in Claude Projects where you can give them roles, tasks, and guidelines on what to do and how to do it, plus attach .txt files with more specifications. So when you want to do something specific, you just pick the right agent to help you out.

For example, like the couple i have below with a short description for each so i know what they're for. And inside, they have detailed instructions + .txt files.

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So to try out the local setup, yesterday i installed Ollama, which took about 5GB of space on its own. Then, getting a custom interface like Open WebUI and an AI model like DeepSeek R1 for main tasks needed at least 1GB:

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And to connect all this together, i had to install
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, which again was about 5GB.

But here is what they say:

Disk Space:
Practical Minimum: About 50GB should suffice, primarily to accommodate the Docker container size (around 2GB+ for ollama-webui) and model files, without needing a large buffer beyond the essentials.

Then i noticed many people don't want Docker, and later i found a quicker way to set it all up using Pinokio (pinokio.computer). But after researching on Reddit and a few other places, it didn't seem trustworthy to me, plus its developer doesn't seem very active on GitHub. Here is how it works, by the way:



The main question was: Why would i need a locally running LLM like DeepSeek if i can just access it with a click online and it's free to use? So i just left it all alone for now.
 
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Yes I hear you. The web gui I have setup myself with some help admittedly from GPT and Claude, but the main thing is, it is doing what I want it to do. Running these local to me is imperative, I do not want to be having to worry about, code or credentials being uploaded onto the cloud.

I am currently speccing the machine out I will need and whilst GPU Cores is important, fast memory and lots of it is the kicker.

So currently I am looking at either an M4 Pro Mac Mini with 64GB of unified memory or an M4 Pro MacBook Pro with 48GB of memory. Either machine should allow me to run a 30billion parameter LLM, with a decent response time.

But regardless it is fun experimenting and will be a while yet before I am in a position to get a new machine.
 
Webzcas said:
Yes I hear you. The web gui I have setup myself with some help admittedly from GPT and Claude, but the main thing is, it is doing what I want it to do. Running these local to me is imperative, I do not want to be having to worry about, code or credentials being uploaded onto the cloud.

I am currently speccing the machine out I will need and whilst GPU Cores is important, fast memory and lots of it is the kicker.

So currently I am looking at either an M4 Pro Mac Mini with 64GB of unified memory or an M4 Pro MacBook Pro with 48GB of memory. Either machine should allow me to run a 30billion parameter LLM, with a decent response time.

But regardless it is fun experimenting and will be a while yet before I am in a position to get a new machine.
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If you come up with the right solution, you should also be able to make it search the internet the way you want. Using the Google Search API or the
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would do the job. I checked them both yesterday and Brave gives plenty of free credits compared to G.
 
The thing is that DeepSeek may soon become paid, just like when ChatGPT launched and everyone got mad about it because initially it was pretty decent and free. But later, they made the basic model dumb to piss people off so they switch to the better model for £20 or so per month.

But you never know what China got in mind, their technology is like in 2050. Imagine if they come up with something like: do you want to switch from Starlink? The sub will cost you £10 a month.

See how DeepSeek present itself:

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It's like if Tesko said: we're open right now and rivaling Waitrose :D
 
ChopleyIOM said:
AI is a scam, a grift. Industrial scale theft and larceny. It knows nothing, it thinks nothing, it regurgitates stolen material, hallucinates nonsense and presents untruths with a confidence that would be amusing if it weren't so predicated on stealing the sum total of human endeavours for the enrichment of billionaires.

The only good news is that sooner or later this horseshit Ponzi scheme will collapse in on itself.

I'm a big fan of this guy and his work:

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We occasionally dabble with AI in my line of work (it is artificial, but it's definitely not intelligent), we've seen it make every mistake in the book, including making up entirely new cmdlets, stuff that literally doesn't exist in code, and then when we correct it, it fesses up and admits it hallucinated it.

We use AI as the punchlines to jokes, like, 'Have you asked Chat-GPT about it..... LOL'.
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It really depends on the quality of the AI system and the field it's used for. Chess engines are (and will continue to be) superior to the best GMs, no one expected this 25 years ago. AI is also far better than humans when it comes to fraud detection for instance, so there are exceptions to AI being of no use. Granted, even very advanced AI systems, although a lot faster, still make errors when it comes to translations and legal citations. I do think that major advancements will be made in the coming decades.
 
The interweb speaks that apparently, France noticed the success of China's govt-backed DeepSeek and decided to make one as well called Lucie. But Lucie lasted only a couple of days and got taken down :D 🤖

'Cow's eggs, also known as chicken's eggs, are edible eggs produced by cows. Cow's eggs are a source of protein and nutrients, and are considered to be a healthy and nutritious food.'

Asked to multiply 5 by (3+2), the model gave an answer of 17, instead of 25, and Lucie also said that “the square root of a goat is one.”

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Guntis said:
The thing is that DeepSeek may soon become paid, just like when ChatGPT launched and everyone got mad about it because initially it was pretty decent and free. But later, they made the basic model dumb to piss people off so they switch to the better model for £20 or so per month.

But you never know what China got in mind, their technology is like in 2050. Imagine if they come up with something like: do you want to switch from Starlink? The sub will cost you £10 a month.

See how DeepSeek present itself:

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It's like if Tesko said: we're open right now and rivaling Waitrose :D
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They've open-sourced the whole thing, so you can run the thing locally, the smaller distilled models will run on a single GPU.

It's a pretty awesome power dick swinging move by the Chinese. 'That's a nice multi-hundred billion dollar AI scam grift Ponzi scheme 'industry' you've got there, it would be a shame if someone were to release a free, open source version that does exactly the same thing and runs on relatively trivial hardware'.

There's a really good explainer of what they've done here:

 
ChopleyIOM said:
OpenAI moaning that Deepseek has stolen its stuff is hilarious.

Tell me again where OpenAI got all its 'training data' from again, Mr Altman?
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I would say it takes info from anywhere it has access to, essentially from any web source that doesn't block it. They have GPTBot, which is similar to Google-Extended, that they use to train their AI models.

There is a case about an engineer, Suchir Balaji, who worked for OpenAI and committed suicide (as the police say). But a forensic report is on the way and is expected to be released by Feb 24, 2025. That man was saying that products like ChatGPT violate United States copyright law.

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mulven said:
When I throw up after drinking this, will the only thing that comes out be buzzwords?
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Crazy isn't it? It's all just meaningless buzzword bingo. The bolded word "sip" can be changed for almost anything, even:

slot
casino
bonus
game

"Dive into the extraordinary with [their brand name] - a symphony of tech and tradition. Quantum quintessence is your ticket to a revolution where A.I. precision meets human intuition, crafting a bold, harmonious blend. Each sip promises a burst of flavours, masterfully orchestrated to elevate your experience."
 
One more bot, called Kimi, went live to join the AI war 🤖

Moonshot’s Kimi k1.5 is a multimodal AI model that integrates visual, text, and code inputs to solve complex problems. It has surpassed some of OpenAI’s models by up to 550% on some benchmarks, particularly in areas like problem-solving and reasoning

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There is another bot woth keeping an eye on called Open Operator. Right now it works slowly, but soon i reckon we'll be able to say : Go to this site ... , you know my login details, deposit £100, find a Big Bass Bonanza slot, put at £1 a spin and see how it goes. Make sure you don't feck it up, etc. And cash out once you hit £300.
 
Guntis said:
There is another bot woth keeping an eye on called Open Operator. Right now it works slowly, but soon i reckon we'll be able to say : Go to this site ... , you know my login details, deposit £100, find a Big Bass Bonanza slot, put at £1 a spin and see how it goes. Make sure you don't feck it up, etc. And cash out once you hit £300.
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That would violate terms at most casinos.

Even using an auto clicker to get around lack of autoplay in UK would probably violate it (but they'd never enforce I bet).

You can already make decent bots without AI to automate sign ups and playing the slots. But a powerful model would definitely streamline the process massively.

As I said though automating casino play is a big no no and you'll get in trouble if caught.
 
mulven said:
That would violate terms at most casinos.

Even using an auto clicker to get around lack of autoplay in UK would probably violate it (but they'd never enforce I bet).

You can already make decent bots without AI to automate sign ups and playing the slots. But a powerful model would definitely streamline the process massively.

As I said though automating casino play is a big no no and you'll get in trouble if caught.
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I agree, and i know about that term and was talking about it in one of the threads here on CM a year or two back. Personally, I've never used even an auto clicker but tried to code one myself with AI. Essentially, you can make one that they won't recognize as automated since you can randomize clicks and their speed as you want.

@justdoit uses one everywhere and he can tell us about how it goes. To be honest, if i had an online casino, i wouldn't care how people play there. Maybe I'm wrong, but i think it doesn't matter what or who clicks a slot button as it's impossible to manipulate them anyway. For card games it's also pointless; they get shuffled too often to gain any advantage.

Live poker bots could be a different story.

Then for original-type games like crash, plinko, mines, etc., crypto sites even offer scripts, or you can create one yourself and use it.

What they care about are bots like the ones that were demolishing Willima Hill -
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Here is that bot i mean. It can visit websites and do things you want. It works too slowly right now but, i think we can expect tech like this to work properly quite soon.

 
Guntis said:
I agree, and i know about that term and was talking about it in one of the threads here on CM a year or two back. Personally, I've never used even an auto clicker but tried to code one myself with AI. Essentially, you can make one that they won't recognize as automated since you can randomize clicks and their speed as you want.

@justdoit uses one everywhere and he can tell us about how it goes. To be honest, if i had an online casino, i wouldn't care how people play there. Maybe I'm wrong, but i think it doesn't matter what or who clicks a slot button as it's impossible to manipulate them anyway. For card games it's also pointless; they get shuffled too often to gain any advantage.

Live poker bots could be a different story.

Then for original-type games like crash, plinko, mines, etc., crypto sites even offer scripts, or you can create one yourself and use it.

What they care about are bots like the ones that were demolishing Willima Hill -
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Here is that bot i mean. It can visit websites and do things you want. It works too slowly right now but, i think we can expect tech like this to work properly quite soon.

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this is like Grok on X, you can also attach pic or make thumbnail and is free
Regards Auto Clicker no casino cares about it, you can use it all day long, you can ask @L&L-Jan
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Guntis said:
I agree, and i know about that term and was talking about it in one of the threads here on CM a year or two back. Personally, I've never used even an auto clicker but tried to code one myself with AI. Essentially, you can make one that they won't recognize as automated since you can randomize clicks and their speed as you want.

@justdoit uses one everywhere and he can tell us about how it goes. To be honest, if i had an online casino, i wouldn't care how people play there. Maybe I'm wrong, but i think it doesn't matter what or who clicks a slot button as it's impossible to manipulate them anyway. For card games it's also pointless; they get shuffled too often to gain any advantage.

Live poker bots could be a different story.

Then for original-type games like crash, plinko, mines, etc., crypto sites even offer scripts, or you can create one yourself and use it.

What they care about are bots like the ones that were demolishing Willima Hill -
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Here is that bot i mean. It can visit websites and do things you want. It works too slowly right now but, i think we can expect tech like this to work properly quite soon.

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For the sake of not endorsing term breaking behaviour..

My good friend nevlum always used a basic auto clicker on slots for years, never had a single issue. No randomised interval just a single number (usually a 100-300ms or 10ms if spins super fast like old play tech)
 
The feature I feel is worth paying for is AI’s memory. I’m not entirely sure how the technical side works, but it’s a lot more useful when it’s able to build a profile of you based on all your previous conversations.

It does require sharing a lot of personal data though. Ideally, it should know your complete medical history and finances etc before answering a question, even if it seems irrelevant to the question being asked.

The more data you provide, the better the outcome. So, for it to work properly, you really need to share everything and that means you have to trust the site not to share that information with third parties.

I’m sure it’s buried somewhere in the small print that it is shared one way or another, so for that reason, I feel AI will naturally move toward something that’s run locally on your own device. A dedicated AI device is what I would look for now, if I needed a new computer.
 
In other AI news, Google's Super Bowl advert (famously some of the most expensive advertising in the world) included a section where they were showing how great their Gemini AI is at helping businesses, and they used a Dutch cheese seller to demonstrate this, with some Gemini generated business promotion blurb.

Unfortunately Gemini regurgitated the entirely wrong (and easily disprovable) claim that Dutch Gouda accounts for 50-60% of cheese eaten worldwide, because the sites it'd 'learned' (stolen) from had that down as an error.

Once this was pointed out to them with lots of LOLs, Google quietly did a complete in-place replacement of the video on YouTube with the error removed.

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mack341 said:
The more I read this thread the less I understand what AI is, what its biggest purpose or role will be.

Basically is it 'you don't need to employ those costly humans', our AI program/service, which we will rent to you, can do their job at a fraction of the cost?
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Nothing to worry about yet, especially if you're doing proper manual work. But those whose jobs can easily be replaced with AI may need to quickly adapt to changes and learn how they could improve their work or find something better. Essentially, all bank employees, estate agents, and council workers can be replaced with AI chatbots.

AI could open a bank account for you, provide a loan, or approve a mortgage in minutes after asking a few questions. Similarly, AI could easily identify a benefit busters who claims all sorts of BS for years and then cut the dole. AI could also easily help with applying for a suitable job, or sending people to courses if needed.

On a larger scale, it's more about which AI system a company wants to integrate into their work process.

I recently saw an online tool for web developers where an AI chatbot is constantly with you. It sees what you do and tries to help, and it has access to all their terms, FAQs, and documentation.

It would be impossible for a human to help me like this, as they have a massive terms that i would have to read for a few days and still might not understand. But their bot tells you things like, "Wait a sec, i'll check the documentation," and then, in a minute, comes back with exactly what you need, properly structured. If anything else is needed, it goes to look for more info or replies instantly.

For casinos topic - Imagine if there was a chatbot that knew everything about any slot or table game available on a casino site, in detail. If there was anything unclear about payment speeds, bonuses, site terms, documents, etc., it would give you direct info and provide enough context to help you understand WHY certain features, rules, or requirements exist and WHAT purposes they serve. Rather than just throwing terms at you, explaining nothing, and leaving it all open ended. Plus they could write in most languages.

But at the core, it's as you say - 'you don't need to employ those costly humans.'
 
For those of you who may be interested. I have DeepSeek running locally as part of my HAL 9000 setup :D

I just need a bigger boat ( a mac with a s ton load of unified memory ) and should be good to go :)
It is so cool having my own bespoke webui as well :D

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Also on another note, the UK and US have today refused to sign the international AI declaration.

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