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I dont know, I remember when I won online more that at the landbased casinos. Now I do better at land based. For the last 4 or 5 months I have had one cash out, and just never win much on line anymore. I used to get a cashout on average of 1/4. No joke its about 1 /200 now. I dont get that much play for my money, so I think the odds have been set to much lower. If I played once in a while, Id say bad luck, but I play a lot . I have seen a change. Unfortunley I hate going to land based, can never find parking, and the room is so smokey it kills my eyes. I have now cut back hat I play as a result, because in past, I would win onc and a while and win my money back sometimes. Now its just a donation to have some fun for a while, after months of taking a beating, I decided to cut down.

Ama
 
amatrine said:
I dont know, I remember when I won online more that at the landbased casinos. Now I do better at land based. For the last 4 or 5 months I have had one cash out, and just never win much on line anymore. I used to get a cashout on average of 1/4. No joke its about 1 /200 now. I dont get that much play for my money, so I think the odds have been set to much lower. If I played once in a while, Id say bad luck, but I play a lot . I have seen a change. Unfortunley I hate going to land based, can never find parking, and the room is so smokey it kills my eyes. I have now cut back hat I play as a result, because in past, I would win onc and a while and win my money back sometimes. Now its just a donation to have some fun for a while, after months of taking a beating, I decided to cut down.

Ama
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My win/loss percentages began the big freefall around March of last year. Got even worse by last fall. By the time NETeller shut us out, I had already cut waaay back on deposits, and was only playing every now and then (small deposits). I used to fund my B&M excursions w/online wins -- up untill last year that is...

Even if I had a way to deposit now, I just don't think I could bring myself to deposit and play very much online anymore. I still remember that great sucking sound after my last several times playing for real online.

It wasn't fun anymore.

I only go B&M gambling 3 or 4 times a year (it's a long drive). It's a nice mini-vacation for us. Most times I lose, but at least I get the cashback, rooms, booze, food and such comped so all I'm out is what I set aside for gambling.

Do I think online games are rigged? No, not the major softwares. Do I think payout percentages have been changed? Yes -- and not in our favor. ;)
 
My 2 cents

Im sorry

I thought we were gambling, which means that you are wagering money on a game or betting on something that "could" give back more or you could lose. Isnt that what gambling is?

Im just getting tired of hearing the word "rigged" We are gambling people!
 
sueps said:
And I would love to tell you who it is but I have read you cant name and shame etc...unless you give the casino prior warning...and I did mail him some 2 weeks ago threatening to tell all about the payout percentage etc....but he quickly reinstated said deposits...
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She threatened to tell everyone about their payout percentages. Wow. If any of you go back and read her first two posts on this board, I'd say she's talking about 32Red/Dash. She'd complained about them and it looks like Pat threw her a $500 bonus. There, the big secret's out!! Such high drama.

So now what? Threaten them again for another $500 bonus? If your luck is that bad, then stop playing. Everywhere.
 
Here ya go, this was Sueps first ever post on Casinomeister.

sueps said:
I have had big issues witht he payout and randomness ar 32RED. To the extent that Pat gave me a 500 match bonus.....and it truly has been very boring and atrocious. I have sent another complaint and now I cant even deposit in my account. There must be a reason why MG are like this at the mo. I need Pat to respond he hasnt and I feel really let down.
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I'm not sure what you want Pat or anyone to say for that matter? As someone stated above, if you think it's rigged, then don't play. Pretty simple. What I can't stand is when people come here and use this forum to try and "blackmail" a casino into giving them more free money. Give me this or I'll tell on you? WTF is that all about? Tell what? That you lost? Join the club. Most of us who play slots lose most of the time. If you're not prepared to lose, then don't play.
 
I think Sueps should sign up at more casinos and lose money and then complain to them to see what they'll do to compensate her for it. Nothing! Nadda! Zilch! . Laugh in your face!(maybe not! but behind your back!)

If she finds another casino that throws her $500.00 for whining then I'll match it.
 
last post on here. I have closed All casino accts like I said I didnt do it to get free money, I complained because the payout was below 70 percent 99 percent of the time. Etc Anyway those of you who are wise do heed ...the rest of you addicts sorry for treading on ya tootsies...

I am not in to blackmail I was merely stating my experience and yes the payouts are much lower....

I will say AMEN to you all.....I just became totally bored with throwing money at them all and yes they had it for free most of the time....

I am sorry the select few took offence, was expected....like a non smoker talking to a smoker same kind of reaction....

ITS ALL A CON

Why are there so many complaints on here if it was plain fair.Anyway no debate I was quite diplomatic and still am ...thats my choice not to play anymore.



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You are right Sueps, stated what was your own opinion, and god forbid that you should do that aroung here.
 
fcat said:
You are right Sueps, stated what was your own opinion, and god forbid that you should do that aroung here.
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We can all express our opinions as much as we want fcat, it's just that sometimes we don't all agree with each other.

God knows, I've said many silly things on here and felt like that no-one was listening. (Who said that? :p)

It's really not as cliquey as you think it is.

...And I know where sueps is coming from. When you are on a losing streak you start to think of lots of things and you are probably thinking that the casinos are just trying to scam you and all that shit - it's only natural. I've been there sooo many times as well!
 
i dont know how i can make this perfectly clear but here goes...you cannot win in the long run on slots. the problem with most online players is they(we) play constantly. in a b&m casino one can hit and go home. online that is not possible. we are home. slots are a casinos biggest income generator. if you play 24/7 you will lose. peroid. the numbers are way against you. think of how much you play online compared to a real casino. you can walk into a real casino for a day, or a week, and hit and call it a trip. online though, even if you hit and cashout, you are playing 10 minutes later. people can come out ahead in their gambling sessions no doubt. but the more sessions played the better off the house is. home = more sessions played therefore more losses. very simple.
 
cheekymonkey said:
...And I know where sueps is coming from. When you are on a losing streak you start to think of lots of things and you are probably thinking that the casinos are just trying to scam you and all that shit - it's only natural. I've been there sooo many times as well!
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Yep, me too.

The very basis of intelligence is taking events and connecting them to make some sort of sense out of it.

Anything random won't fit that thinking, and yet we try to make connections that make sense, I.e. the game must be rigged, someone is flipping a switch on the other side because I lost after x event, I found a great strategy because I won x times doing this, and and and....

Random is just - well - random. If it made any sense at all, it would not be random. But our brains will never cease to try to inject some sense or continuity into it. Just human nature.
 
LOL cheeky, no one ever listens to me most the time here but I still type if I have something to type or add my 2cents worth :)
As for everyone having their own opinions fcat, we indeed all do and no one was jumping on her for stating hers. I believe what was being addressed by alot in her post was her not wanting to share the names of the casino since she took the time to come and post it.
I'm not a big time gambler, unless you call taking $30 or even $40 every other weekend to sit and have some enjoyment, an addict, but I can honestly say that I'd prefer to NOT waste my money at a casino where the name of the game is to rip as many players off as possible(which is alot of places, I know)
And yes, if I so happen to be lucky and win, then you can be dang sure I'm going to kick up a stink if the casino tries to dodge me(Im just going to make sure they are the accredited ones from now on)
I didn't take offense myself sueps of your post, just didn't understand why you wouldn't want to share the names of the casinos that left a bad taste in your mouth.
As the old saying goes "Opinions are like a$$holes....everyone has one" :)
 
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dominique said:
Yep, me too.

The very basis of intelligence is taking events and connecting them to make some sort of sense out of it.

Anything random won't fit that thinking, and yet we try to make connections that make sense, I.e. the game must be rigged, someone is flipping a switch on the other side because I lost after x event, I found a great strategy because I won x times doing this, and and and....

Random is just - well - random. If it made any sense at all, it would not be random. But our brains will never cease to try to inject some sense or continuity into it. Just human nature.
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The most intelligent reply on this forum in awhile!!!!!!!!!
 
heatherad said:
just didn't understand why you wouldn't want to share the names of the casinos that left a bad taste in your mouth.
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Because Heather, she thought she could drag it out, THREATEN to expose their low payout percentages, and try and hit them up for some more "hush" money. Hang around long enough, you'll find out that people like using this board for that. Especially when it comes to 32Red. It's been pretty common knowledge that Pat has been pretty generous with people, and especially if they feel like they've had a really bad session. He looks at it as giving you another kick at the can. I don't know any other casinos that do that.

So now, the in thing to do is to come on here and bitch and moan about low payouts, and get thrown a bonus. Like I said, stick around long enough, you'll see the patterns developing.

Bye sueps. Thanks for your earth shattering revelations. You lost at a casino? Wow, I never would have guessed.
 
Thank you Pinababy69 :)
Your post was very insightful indeed.
This was one post I wasn't grasping the concept of it all, now I do ;)
Truer words were never typed when you typed *such high drama* other than the person who came up with the phrase "you win some, you loose some".

P.S. Sounds like Pat gives players more than a fair chance even though he doesn't have to.
 
WOW PINABABY FROM CANADA YOU GOT PMT OR SUMMAT COS YA SURE HAVE GOT A NASTY TASTE IN YA ASSUMPTIOUS POSTS

LIKE I SAID I HAVE CLOSED ALL MY ACCOUNTS AND AM NOT AFTER A FREE BONUS. IF YA SEE IT LIKE THAT TURN IT ON ITS HEAD AND THE CASINOS HAVE GOTTEN MORE THAN THEIR FREE SHARE OF MONEY OFF OF ME.

YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE ON HERE THAT SEEMS TO BE INDIFFERENT AND INSENSITIVE..NO WONDER YA GOT A SOLITARY 3 YEAR CAREER GOING AT CASINOMEISTER AND PURSUE A SOLITARY ADDICTION...WHATS WRONG WITH YA LIGHTEN UP .........AND READ THE POST IN ITS CORRECT MANNER...I POSTED ON HERE AS IT IS A CASINO FORUM ...

IF PEOPLE CAME INTO MY OFFICE AND I DEALT THEM WITH HALF A HAND AND UNDERCUT THEIR LOYALTY THEN THEY HAVE EVERY RITE TO COMPLAIN..... NOW IF YA SO SHALLOW TO THINK THAT EVERYONE GETS FREE MONEY BY POSTING ON A FORUM THEN THATS YOUR PROBLEM. AND SO BE IT. AND IF YA SUCH A BULLY THAT YA HAVE TO CUT AND PASTE IN ORDER TO GET THE VUNERABLE TO AGREE WITH YOU THEN YA WELL SUITED TO LIVING IN PLACES LIKE THIS WHERE YA CAN HIDE BEHIND A SCREEN DURING MOST YA WAKING ACTIVITY.

END OF RANT
BYE PINABABY
THERES ALWAYS ONE
 

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