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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by sueps, Jun 23, 2007.

    Jun 23, 2007
  1. sueps

    sueps Dormant account

    Occupation:
    manageress
    Location:
    uk
    I have enjoyed playing online for a couple of years however I have decided to call it a day. I really dont want to dishearten any of you. The reason why....I have had a "relationship" with 2 casinos from an accredited well known company whom a lot of you rave about. Since January this year the payout has been appalling, on 2 occasions that I have complained harshly to them they or he has reinstated my deposit.....on the last occasion ...2days ago I managed to hit lines on slots that would have been obviously impossible otherwise,....a 3.60 bet wins 650 0n ladies nite the other occasion I complained I hit all the bonus rounds that would have also been a certain impossibility...I am just bringing up a point for you to ponder on. I do not at all bear a grudge or am going to mention any casino and they matched every 500 a month etc ...but there was no way i stayed for ,long without loss after loss. Also I noticed I only ever triggered significant wins on depositing .......Anyway it has happened too often and with other casinos that I only used this company in the end...only for them to go the same way... I will be saving my 1000 a month now and investing it in less precarious companies... please I beg you not to be offended.... I had fun but not since January....

    Thx ...
     
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  2. Jun 23, 2007
  3. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Good luck in your ventures!

    And if anyone else thinks there's a "win switch" (read: rigged), I would advise you to quit as well :)
     
  4. Jun 23, 2007
  5. sueps

    sueps Dormant account

    Occupation:
    manageress
    Location:
    uk
    I never heard of win switch....haha .... If your only big wins had been on 2 reinstated bonuses SINCE January then I would be advising anyone to tread cautiously.... Like I state I do not hold grudges... For me it was becoming a stressful addiction.... and thats not what I call value for money.

    Good Luck to all of you too......
     
  6. Jun 23, 2007
  7. sueps

    sueps Dormant account

    Occupation:
    manageress
    Location:
    uk
    And I also stated I did not want to offend anyone...
     
  8. Jun 23, 2007
  9. silkprint

    silkprint Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Yup ...I work
    Location:
    Mass
    Good luck
     
    1 person likes this.
  10. Jun 23, 2007
  11. NZmumof4

    NZmumof4 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    slacker NOT!!!!!
    Location:
    SNOWY vt
    I too only play at a few selective casinos and my problem is I win but cannot ever find the cashout button when I should, so I have the opposite problem to you in as much as the slots I have played have payed ... bet these casinos just love me LOL...anyway good luck in your future ventures & I wish you all the best.
     
  12. Jun 24, 2007
  13. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    2 people like this.
  14. Jun 24, 2007
  15. patrina

    patrina Senior Member

    Occupation:
    injured do to mva/self employed
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
    Hey there, I was becoming concerned with the way the games were played out due to the fact that I would deposit quite a bit, lose it all, then my mom would come over deposit and win! (she doesn't have a computer) I thought I would email the casino and ask them if there is a memory when someone wins; for example; if my mom wins, then would the game reset or change in any way? Here is a portion of the email they sent me. I didn't feel it was necessary to copy the whole email but this is what they told me. And as soon as I received the email and went back to play, I ended up winning! I was curious if the casino could change or reset the games. Here's the quote:

    With regards to your query insofar memory is concerned, there is
    a
    limited amount of history which is kept for purposes of
    financial
    accounting and play history. The software does not discriminate
    against
    certain players. Everyone simply plays into the same platform
    and its
    pure luck insofar slots wins or losses are concerned. Other
    games,
    example the tables, will require a certain level of skill.



    p.s. I dont know if this info is any use to you but it kinda set me straight.
    Patrina:)
     
  16. Jun 24, 2007
  17. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    It's just a long winded way of saying the games are completely random.

    I am a little suspicious of how this "randomness" is implemented, as I often see far too much "streakiness" in the games, even though long term payouts match the theoretical expectations.
    Well, UK Fruit Machines pay the expected long term percentage, but they are rigged as hell, and play according to recent history.
     
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  18. Jun 24, 2007
  19. patrina

    patrina Senior Member

    Occupation:
    injured do to mva/self employed
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada


    Sometimes when I'm on a "roll" the games start to slow at the last few reels and sort of jump? I think I know what you mean by "streakiness" I'm sure everyone has wondered whether the games can be controlled or not. One time before I asked a casino about this and she said "no, and if we could we wouldn't have the time to do it anyhow" with a little bit of a chuckle. Where I play (mostly) TPG, I have won 5 times in the last 3 weeks. Not huge, but pretty good amounts. The fruit machines are rigged? And do they get away with it? I haven't heard of any casinos getting in trouble for this, only in the rogue section where it says a few have funky software, I would like to find out more about this. Tell me more Vinyl (if you have time) Thanks
    Patrina
     
  20. Jun 24, 2007
  21. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    UK Fruit Machines are controlled so that they pay out the percentage in a particular pattern. This can be a cycle in the simpler games, to a full blown "pot" system in the complicated feature games.
    They are designed to play at around 50% for a while, and then pay the additional 20% from a so called "streak pot" to the lucky (or skillful:D) player who happens to be on it at the time.
    The streak patterns range from the subtle to the "bleedin' obvious". The payout control software gives rise to problems as players can manipulate some features and take advantage of the games. Some errors lead to so called "emptiers", where a specific sequence of play leads to an unrecorded win (paid, but not recorded against overall paid percentage due to bad coding).
    Some casinos now have these "Fruit Machines", and the belief is that these too share some of the non-random aspects of the real thing.

    It is possible to play on a simulator on the PC, that you can load with older UK fruit machines and see pretty much how they behave. The simulations use original ROM chips from the machines, and use the test rig software that the companies probably use to test the games prior to release. Enthusiasts have coded this with virtual layouts, so that you can play what looks like the actual machine on your PC, similar to how slots are portrayed and played at online casinos.
    Although the simulations are widely sold on Ebay as CD packages, they are actually FREE, and the packages are an attempt to rip people off - you are just paying for someone to make up the CD, not for the actual games.
     
    2 people like this.
  22. Jun 24, 2007
  23. Rettahs

    Rettahs Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Saint Louis

    Not to sound rude here but after I read your post my first thought was "why even post this thread if you aren't going to name the casino('s)." You say you are done playing so throw out the name, it isn't like it can affect you in any way and others who play there may benefit from your post or send an email like you did to get the win switch turned on lol.
     
    3 people like this.
  24. Jun 24, 2007
  25. patrina

    patrina Senior Member

    Occupation:
    injured do to mva/self employed
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2007
  26. Jun 24, 2007
  27. Let_It_Ride

    Let_It_Ride Quit Gambling

    Occupation:
    none
    Location:
    europe
    never heard of a casino to do this, makes you wonder if there is more to their software then they let on, maybe there is a win/lose switch!
     
  28. Jun 24, 2007
  29. Rettahs

    Rettahs Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Saint Louis
     
  30. Jun 24, 2007
  31. cheekymonkey

    cheekymonkey Ueber Meister

    Occupation:
    Loser
    Location:
    Back at my mums
    That's what I say to myself all the time. :rolleyes:
     
  32. Jun 24, 2007
  33. NZmumof4

    NZmumof4 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    slacker NOT!!!!!
    Location:
    SNOWY vt
    I have been playing online slots long enough to know that when I am about to get better payouts sometimes my game will start to slow right down & become jittery...actually I also get logged off free spin modes a lot to if I am playing thunderstruck...usually I can get back to my game, but I have noticed how my PC behaves if things start to go my way....so maybe there is something there in regards to memory etc.
     
  34. Jun 24, 2007
  35. Let_It_Ride

    Let_It_Ride Quit Gambling

    Occupation:
    none
    Location:
    europe
     
  36. Jun 24, 2007
  37. cheekymonkey

    cheekymonkey Ueber Meister

    Occupation:
    Loser
    Location:
    Back at my mums
    Well I cashed out 1k, blew about 500 of it on Thunderstruck @ 9 a spin :eek2: and still got about 300 sitting there.

    Went out Friday night and got wrecked in a Spanish bar with my work mates and had a STINKING headache all day yesterday so didn't really play the casino that much.

    Will be playing today, but I'm not feeling that lucky actually.

    Que sera sera....

    Hope you doing ok mate. :thumbsup:
     
  38. Jun 24, 2007
  39. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Dobry den z Ceske Republiky!

    So are you going to tell us where we can get these free copies?
    I would love to have a go at some proper rigged fruities on my PC!

    Diky, ahoj.
    KK
     

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