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I'm curious to know, if it's not about bonuses and offers (which this thread was essentially started about), why then didn't the majority of you show your support when I started the 'Igor Appreciation Thread'?

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/betats-igor-appreciation-thread.63658/?t=63658

Know that I'm not passing judgement here, but that thread was designed to act much like a petition to show Igor he was appreciated and try to convince him to stay, however the response was very underwhelming, and if I was Igor I'd probably find it quite discouraging, as I myself did.

Like I said, no judgement, but I find it interesting that some of you preaching rep appreciation, weren't involved in the above mentioned thread, when that appreciation was probably more needed than ever at that time. Just makes me think about some of the comments you've made.

And just in case it's mentioned, your dislike of me is no excuse, as that should be set aside for worthy causes, and the thread was about Igor, not me. ;)

I honestly don't know why you need to keep casting up the past. But to use a quote ive posted then make reference to dislike of you is not really fair.

I'm making the guess that you weren't meaning me that dislikes you tho I am not sure. But I have never actually said or did anything that would give the impression that I dislike you.
 
I honestly don't know why you need to keep casting up the past. But to use a quote ive posted then make reference to dislike of you is not really fair.

I'm making the guess that you weren't meaning me that dislikes you tho I am not sure. But I have never actually said or did anything that would give the impression that I dislike you.

Easy there Paul, don't take the comments personally. I have no beef with you, and don't intend to start any.

It was just a general question, as the topic shifted from its original topic into a rep appreciation discussion, and some of the passionate responses confused me, that's all. I'm not sure what you mean by constantly "casting up the past", but I referenced the past, as this thread reminded me of that occasion, and the disappointment I felt for Igor when the response to that thread was slim.

I don't think I'd be wrong in suggesting that was a fairly big instance of a rep appreciation situation. Hence it's not a huge stretch to imagine I might reference it given its recent history. I'm sure you too reference past occasions in your posts, so not sure what's meant by your comments in that regard.

As for liking me, I do not assume you don't like me, and actually think we are all good. However, I'm not oblivious to the fact there are a few out there who don't like me, and at the time of the Igor thread, I received a number of pm's telling me another member had pm'd them all, trying to garner support against me, hence I assumed this may have been the reason responses were minimal in that thread I created.

Like I said, I don't really care who doesn't like me Paul, but my point was, even those who might do, should have put that aside for one moment to show their appreciation for Igor, if they do indeed truly appreciate reps.

Anyway, hope that clarifies my comments. Don't take them personally as they're not directly about you, however I quoted you as you mentioned some points I wished to address.

Can we be friends again now? ;)
 
I'm curious to know, if it's not about bonuses and offers (which this thread was essentially started about), why then didn't the majority of you show your support when I started the 'Igor Appreciation Thread'?

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/betats-igor-appreciation-thread.63658/?t=63658

Know that I'm not passing judgement here, but that thread was designed to act much like a petition to show Igor he was appreciated and try to convince him to stay, however the response was very underwhelming, and if I was Igor I'd probably find it quite discouraging, as I myself did.

Like I said, no judgement, but I find it interesting that some of you preaching rep appreciation, weren't involved in the above mentioned thread, when that appreciation was probably more needed than ever at that time. Just makes me think about some of the comments you've made.

And just in case it's mentioned, your dislike of me is no excuse, as that should be set aside for worthy causes, and the thread was about Igor, not me. ;)



Easy dude, it's because another member had already started an Igor please reconsider section which you read and thanked. Then you started this new "Igor Appreciation thread." IMO it ain't cool to take someone's original idea and paste your name on it by starting a new thread without acknowledging where the idea came from. IMO your thread bombed because people found you kinda funky. And that's just my opinion.
 
Easy dude, it's because another member had already started an Igor please reconsider section which you read and thanked. Then you started this new "Igor Appreciation thread." IMO it ain't cool to take someone's original idea and paste your name on it by starting a new thread without acknowledging where the idea came from. IMO your thread bombed because people found you kinda funky. And that's just my opinion.

You're wrong in so many ways, but you've made your intentions clear.

At first I thought you may have received a pm from someone given the hostility in your comments, and the fact I remembered seeing that you had posted in the thread I started on Igor.

However, on closer inspection, and after reading your comments in that thread again, I now see where your misguided hostility has come from. It's funny, because I now remember when I initially read that post of yours and had no idea what you meant, but now it's been made clear, lol. I quote :

"LOL ........ wonder how someone thought to start this thread?

No matter how it came to be, Igor's many contributions to the forum are utmost in our minds ........... no matter who thought of it first."

You poor thing. To imagine you've been harvesting this resentment towards me all this time over what must have been a terribly traumatic experience for you. I couldn't imagine the shock you must have felt when you discovered someone had so ruthlessly stolen and plagiarized your thread idea.

Anyway, in case you didn't notice, the above contained plenty of sarcasm. If you honestly think I started that thread with the intention to steal your thunder or thread idea, then you my friend are frankly crazy. I'm not sure how old you are, but that kind of thing is beneath me.

However, I apologize if that's how you felt, and I'll also update that thread so it is clear to everyone that such a thread was originally your idea. The purpose of the thread was to make it about one person, and that was Igor, but if individual praise is important to you, whether I think it is inappropriately placed or wanted, then I am happy to concur.

I'm not sure if you've noticed at all, but I don't post with the intention of winning praise or friends. Although I may find your above comments selfish and a little crazy, I can appreciate there are some here that do.

I hope you'll be able to sleep easier now.

PS. Where I come from, being funky is kind of a cool thing. Kind of like being phat, or just being plain fat. But I get what you were saying. :thumbsup:

Anyone else need clarification on anything? :D
 
I don't think that is anything to laugh about. Promos and special offers are a way for the casinos to show that they appreciate us, and I can assure you that we appreciate feeling special. Nothing wrong about that :)

A thread is about what we want it to be about.
There is a reason why so many reps have stopped posting, and I think that is important to talk about too.
Also our behaviour towards them, the lack of respect many are showing.

This place is not just for gamblers. It's for everyone in the industry.

Yeah ok Tirilej, nice speech. :rolleyes:

What is funny is your persistent and frankly embarrassing underlying vendetta towards me.

Seriously, grow up and get over yourself. You may have some fooled, but there's enough sensible members here to see exactly what you're trying to do, so just give it up.

In the meantime, I'll start taking you seriously when I stop getting pm's from other members telling me about your last pm to them slagging me off. ;)

I've told you before, you may think your persistent campaign is clever, however I can assure you I'm more persistent, and more clever, and also have age and experience on my side.

You've made it clear repeatedly that you have no intention of reaching a truce, so this will only end once you realize I can't be broken, and you don't have the support of the masses you may think you do.

I can't be manipulated and see through your every move. It would also seem that judging by the pm's I'm receiving, you're slowly losing your manipulative hold of others. Keep goating me in your posts, and you will get the reaction you're digging for.

Build a bridge, and if you have something to say about me, pm me about it and leave other members alone. I'm starting to feel embarrassed for both of us.

I should apologize for going off topic, but waking up to some funny yet interesting pm's needed to be addressed.
 
Ok guys, lets knock it off. A perfectly good thread is being wrecked by a bunch of personal agendas that most of us either don't care about - or don't want to read. Please keep personal items to yourself, or PM them or send them in an email.

Thank you for your obedience.
 
You're wrong in so many ways, but you've made your intentions clear.

At first I thought you may have received a pm from someone given the hostility in your comments, and the fact I remembered seeing that you had posted in the thread I started on Igor.

However, on closer inspection, and after reading your comments in that thread again, I now see where your misguided hostility has come from. It's funny, because I now remember when I initially read that post of yours and had no idea what you meant, but now it's been made clear, lol. I quote :

"LOL ........ wonder how someone thought to start this thread?

No matter how it came to be, Igor's many contributions to the forum are utmost in our minds ........... no matter who thought of it first."

You poor thing. To imagine you've been harvesting this resentment towards me all this time over what must have been a terribly traumatic experience for you. I couldn't imagine the shock you must have felt when you discovered someone had so ruthlessly stolen and plagiarized your thread idea.

Anyway, in case you didn't notice, the above contained plenty of sarcasm. If you honestly think I started that thread with the intention to steal your thunder or thread idea, then you my friend are frankly crazy. I'm not sure how old you are, but that kind of thing is beneath me.

However, I apologize if that's how you felt, and I'll also update that thread so it is clear to everyone that such a thread was originally your idea. The purpose of the thread was to make it about one person, and that was Igor, but if individual praise is important to you, whether I think it is inappropriately placed or wanted, then I am happy to concur.

I'm not sure if you've noticed at all, but I don't post with the intention of winning praise or friends. Although I may find your above comments selfish and a little crazy, I can appreciate there are some here that do.

I hope you'll be able to sleep easier now.

PS. Where I come from, being funky is kind of a cool thing. Kind of like being phat, or just being plain fat. But I get what you were saying. :thumbsup:

Anyone else need clarification on anything? :D



Got some serious hostility issues there?

My post was more about you using proper manners than about me seeking your approval.

In the civilized world and how it is demonstrated many times daily in this forum, when you further another's post or idea, it is just good manners to add "as (user name) previously mentioned" or however you feel comfortable phrasing it. Doesn't have to be a big deal.

BTW I am 59 years old, well educated and sleep very well, thank you for asking.
 
Got some serious hostility issues there?

My post was more about you using proper manners than about me seeking your approval.

In the civilized world and how it is demonstrated many times daily in this forum, when you further another's post or idea, it is just good manners to add "as (user name) previously mentioned" or however you feel comfortable phrasing it. Doesn't have to be a big deal.

BTW I am 59 years old, well educated and sleep very well, thank you for asking.

You missed Bryan's post above? :rolleyes:

Grow up, build a bridge, have a beer, walk your cat, have a nanna nap.

Best advice I can give you. ;)

Sorry Bryan.
 
Good thinking Paul, but you probably should have just had this rubbish deleted rather than inviting any more minions to have a crack. ;)

Probably not a bad idea to have the whole thread deleted if possible? :rolleyes:

Edit: My apologies Paul, just noticed it was Bryan who moved this here, so just swap Bryan's name for yours above.
 
You missed Bryan's post above? :rolleyes:

Grow up, build a bridge, have a beer, walk your cat, have a nanna nap.

Best advice I can give you. ;)

Sorry Bryan.

If you look at the time stamp, Suzecat typed her comment 2 minutes after Bryans warning which means she was probably typing while he posted his.

You on the other hand had seen the warning, continued to post and actually apologized to Bryan knowing you just did wrong. Very disrespectful to ignore the warnings and do whatever you want.
 
If you look at the time stamp, Suzecat typed her comment 2 minutes after Bryans warning which means she was probably typing while he posted his.

You on the other hand had seen the warning, continued to post and actually apologized to Bryan knowing you just did wrong. Very disrespectful to ignore the warnings and do whatever you want.

Lol, that didn't take long at all. :rolleyes:

Welcome to a totally insignificant and irrelevant discussion BMWSTACK. Your thoughts and opinions are duly noted, and I'm sure Suzecat will appreciate your sentiments.

Good for you buddy.:thumbsup:

Next. :lolup:
 
Lol, that didn't take long at all. :rolleyes:

Welcome to a totally insignificant and irrelevant discussion BMWSTACK. Your thoughts and opinions are duly noted, and I'm sure Suzecat will appreciate your sentiments.

Good for you buddy.:thumbsup:

Next. :lolup:

Yeah the discussion was thrown over to this derail thread so anything is relevant at this point, but my post was a matter of fact to help point out that suzecat might have missed Bryans warning. You on the other hand did not, and its obvious you could careless about following instruction, taking advice or constructive criticism. You cannot help yourself in needing to have the last word.

If you enjoy this forum its probably best to cool it down a bit. I see you have a recent infraction , and I believe a few in the past. If it keeps going your probably likely to see a ban.
 
Is it me or has everyone on CM lost there fricking minds this month. I swear every thread I have read in past 2 weeks has been filled with hostility. More negative post here then I have ever seen. Not a good way to enjoy my first cup of coffee. Can we all just be friends again and stop all the negativity.

I swear its been like 2 cats in an ally fighting over the last can of tuna fish.
 
Is it me or has everyone on CM lost there fricking minds this month. I swear every thread I have read in past 2 weeks has been filled with hostility. More negative post here then I have ever seen. Not a good way to enjoy my first cup of coffee. Can we all just be friends again and stop all the negativity.

I swear its been like 2 cats in an ally fighting over the last can of tuna fish.

Lol can cats open a tin of tuna:D

But I agree with all you say:thumbsup:
 
Can we all just be friends again and stop all the negativity.

I was thinking the same thing, in fact the thread reminded me of a song and I was playing it while I read your comment.

I think Azzurrigate has run it's course and time we all move on.
 

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Yeah the discussion was thrown over to this derail thread so anything is relevant at this point, but my post was a matter of fact to help point out that suzecat might have missed Bryans warning. You on the other hand did not, and its obvious you could careless about following instruction, taking advice or constructive criticism. You cannot help yourself in needing to have the last word.

If you enjoy this forum its probably best to cool it down a bit. I see you have a recent infraction , and I believe a few in the past. If it keeps going your probably likely to see a ban.



I did not know about the infraction(s) :eek2: Maybe I should spend more time with the other CAP "minions" to help keep me up to date. Much thanks for the multiple heads up :notworthy
 
Is it me or has everyone on CM lost there fricking minds this month. I swear every thread I have read in past 2 weeks has been filled with hostility. More negative post here then I have ever seen. Not a good way to enjoy my first cup of coffee. Can we all just be friends again and stop all the negativity.

I think expecting everyone to be friends is a bit much, but I think it should be possible to disagree with someone - or even dislike them - without dragging it through the forum every day. Once a month should be sufficient. :)
 
Too much bitching going on in the world as it is, personally I come here every day in my downtime to chill and read about people's great wins or unfortunate dispute with a casino. Not to see 2 people squabble over petty stuff.

Never mind who said what in which thread, as a kid I was always taught 2 wrongs don't make a right or it takes the bigger person to walk away.

If you can't get on just ignore each other and crack on, you both seem highly intelligent people given the decent posts you make. Yet the squabbling is so infantile.
 
Yeah the discussion was thrown over to this derail thread so anything is relevant at this point, but my post was a matter of fact to help point out that suzecat might have missed Bryans warning. You on the other hand did not, and its obvious you could careless about following instruction, taking advice or constructive criticism. You cannot help yourself in needing to have the last word.

If you enjoy this forum its probably best to cool it down a bit. I see you have a recent infraction , and I believe a few in the past. If it keeps going your probably likely to see a ban.

BMWSTACK you always talk as if you know me so well. You don't mate, so no need to repeat yourself.

Regarding the last word, you're kidding right? Maybe we have something in common after all.

My philosophy is simple mate. If you want to dish it out, be prepared and willing to get it straight back.

Some of you like to preach a lot, however you are oblivious to the fact that what you say may be construed as being offensive. You all like to tell people how to act more like yourselves, but news flash, not everyone is over 50 and can say what ever they like without repercussions because they've been on this forum since the Internet was invented.

The biggest difference between me you and people like suzecat is, I can take what I dish out without having to report someone when I can no longer think of a witty comeback.

And just to clarify, my infraction was due to telling suzecat to grow up after she called me a piece of work and clueless. I received the infraction for abuse?

The only thing I'm sorry for, is for making Bryan have to deal with the added work of processing a reported post and subsequent infraction over such a nothing comment.

Again it's quickest to the report button who survives the longest. I might have to start using it.

Suzecat, you seem perplexed on hearing of my infraction. Let me explain for you dear. See when you start an argument you lose control of, and you then decide your only form of response is to report someone, well then that person gets an infraction.

Hope that explains it.

Next minion please. :thumbsup:

And BMWSTACK, don't go repeating the same post for a third time please. Let someone else have a go. I'm sure the troops will be comin round the corner when they come (age appropriate joke that one). :D
 
Too much bitching going on in the world as it is, personally I come here every day in my downtime to chill and read about people's great wins or unfortunate dispute with a casino. Not to see 2 people squabble over petty stuff.

Never mind who said what in which thread, as a kid I was always taught 2 wrongs don't make a right or it takes the bigger person to walk away.

If you can't get on just ignore each other and crack on, you both seem highly intelligent people given the decent posts you make. Yet the squabbling is so infantile.

I agree, however the problem is it's never a 2 person discussion. You may have noticed a little click, and if you say something to one, the other 4 or 5 get a quick pm, and before you know it you're having a disagreement with all of them, thus dragging it out unnecessarily.

It's always the same usual suspects too. Like I've said before, I want to enjoy this forum just like everybody else, but if you come at me, be prepared for a response. Don't then go crying when you don't like the response I give you.

This is all general talk and not directed at you PNEFOREVER2. I'm sure it's obvious who I'm talking to.

There's a lot of members here who like to scream blue murder whilst holding a butchers clever above their heads.

Too many geese and not enough ganders.
 
What the hell wasn't planning posting again but might as well.

Azzurri I understand in a way where you are coming from .

I don't see the point in going In someone reporting a post when they have argued with that person as both would be as bad as the other. Besides no need as Bryan sees whats happening so if he thinks its gone too far its his place to deal with it.

Its a forum here and not everyone likes each other, I personally don't really have any friends here and I know theres one or two who probably dislike me but that doesn't bother me. Point is I will normally state my point whether members like it or not but I don't continuously bring it up. No offence Azzurri but I know you defend yourself as you feel you are getting attacked but sometimes its better to state your point and leave it at that. Ignore members if they annoy you that much.

Way I look at it is everyone seemed glad that Johnny got banned ( I stuck up for the guy even tho I got criticised for it) for being a right pain. Rightly so but are all these arguments between the same people in different threads really not just as bad. As someone pointed out they come here to read posts not see the same fights scattered through forum on a regular basis.

I'm not taking any sides just pointing out maybe its time people either moved on for sake of others or just ignored each other.
 
My philosophy is simple mate. If you want to dish it out, be prepared and willing to get it straight back.

Some of you like to preach a lot, however you are oblivious to the fact that what you say may be construed as being offensive. You all like to tell people how to act more like yourselves, but news flash, not everyone is over 50 and can say what ever they like without repercussions because they've been on this forum since the Internet was invented.

And just to clarify, my infraction was due to telling suzecat to grow up after she called me a piece of work and clueless. I received the infraction for abuse?

Again it's quickest to the report button who survives the longest. I might have to start using it.

Exactly, you constantly think everything is a fight. I think you fail to read any substance and look for a reason to fight back.

We all post in different styles and none of us are exempt from being disciplined. It just so happens you go off the deep end way to often and get way too personal.

I would say your infraction probably has more to do with disrespecting the forum administrator by posting more nonsense after you were warned.

Reporting a post doesn't necessarily mean someone will get an infraction just because you push it. It needs to be reviewed. Your posts that are reported are probably scrutinized even further because you have infractions in the past, basically your on a short leash.

Unfortunately I would say your time is probably limited here.
 
What the hell wasn't planning posting again but might as well.

Azzurri I understand in a way where you are coming from .

I don't see the point in going In someone reporting a post when they have argued with that person as both would be as bad as the other. Besides no need as Bryan sees whats happening so if he thinks its gone too far its his place to deal with it.

Its a forum here and not everyone likes each other, I personally don't really have any friends here and I know theres one or two who probably dislike me but that doesn't bother me. Point is I will normally state my point whether members like it or not but I don't continuously bring it up. No offence Azzurri but I know you defend yourself as you feel you are getting attacked but sometimes its better to state your point and leave it at that. Ignore members if they annoy you that much.

Way I look at it is everyone seemed glad that Johnny got banned ( I stuck up for the guy even tho I got criticised for it) for being a right pain. Rightly so but are all these arguments between the same people in different threads really not just as bad. As someone pointed out they come here to read posts not see the same fights scattered through forum on a regular basis.

I'm not taking any sides just pointing out maybe its time people either moved on for sake of others or just ignored each other.

I get what you're saying Paul, and appreciate your comments.

I agree with a lot you said, however please clarify. What have I continuously brought up? Think long and hard about that one before responding. Are you sure it's I who is continually bringing things up?

Just because I ask a question or seek clarification about a past occurrence which may be relevant to a current conversation, doesn't mean I deserve to be attacked or jumped on. Maybe others are holding on to past hostilities and getting a little trigger happy every time I say something that strikes a nerve.

Problem is it seems like I'm the one continually going on, but it's an illusion caused by all the same minions coming out of the woodwork every time, thus having to then address each one as they each take their turn at you.

By my calculations there's still another 2 or 3 yet to come, so hold onto your hats. It's like clockwork, lol.

And if any coffee was hurt in the making of all this I do apologize.
 
Azzurri, you keep bringing up PMs and minions, so are you asking for a response without actually asking?

FOR THE RECORD, I do not PM anyone.

Minion is an offensive way to refer to CAP members. Please stop.
 
Okay im not getting into this debate Azzurri so my last reply. By bringing up things I mean in a couple of posts you have made today you have referenced you thought people must have had a pm from someone to post that. Now it doesn't take a genius to know who you were meaning would have sent the pms. But in doing that it also looks to people that you are looking for that person to react. Might not be your intention but it comes across like that.

And in your last post to me there you finish it with theres still 2 or 3 more to come and attack you. Maybe there is maybe there isn't but by posting like that it makes it look like you are trying to get a response. Maybe you aren't it might just be the way you talk.

Anyway you asked me to explain so I did, Maybe others have a vendetta against you , I don't know. But I don't have anything against you so like I said this will be my last post as im not getting caught up in the never ending " debate" .
 
Exactly, you constantly think everything is a fight. I think you fail to read any substance and look for a reason to fight back.

We all post in different styles and none of us are exempt from being disciplined. It just so happens you go off the deep end way to often and get way too personal.

I would say your infraction probably has more to do with disrespecting the forum administrator by posting more nonsense after you were warned.

Reporting a post doesn't necessarily mean someone will get an infraction just because you push it. It needs to be reviewed. Your posts that are reported are probably scrutinized even further because you have infractions in the past, basically your on a short leash.

Unfortunately I would say your time is probably limited here.

Which one of us will have the last word here BMWSTACK, lol. Surely you're seeing what I'm seeing, lol.

Again you think you know, but sadly you don't.

I have a very good and respectful existence with Bryan, and he clearly explained the infraction was for abusing another member by telling them to grow up. Your reasons are pure speculation and guesswork.

BMWSTACK, you are a perfect example of someone who thinks all they say is gospel, and matter of fact.

I got news for you. It ain't. You are actually a walking contradiction, as you practice nothing you preach.

You've probably heard the saying about opinions. Now are we done, or you got chapter 3,4 and 5 still to go of your lecture on my numbered days.

Also, quick trivia to keep you on your toes. How many blades of grass in your back yard?

Enjoy Stacky.:thumbsup:
 
People don't have to like people here. In fact it does make for some interesting threads. That being said people need to respect people here. Sometimes you may type things in a moments notice and think OK this sounds good HAA --but in reality when people read it, it sounds mean or like it is hateful. I get everyone has an opinion, I get everyone has the right to speak there mind but can we please remember when doing that to think of others and try to have some respect and courtesy to those that do post.

None of us are saints and all of us have gone off a time or two. Let it end before someone gets banned or feelings get hurt.
 
Which one of us will have the last word here BMWSTACK, lol. Surely you're seeing what I'm seeing, lol.

Again you think you know, but sadly you don't.

I have a very good and respectful existence with Bryan, and he clearly explained the infraction was for abusing another member by telling them to grow up. Your reasons are pure speculation and guesswork.

BMWSTACK, you are a perfect example of someone who thinks all they say is gospel, and matter of fact.

I got news for you. It ain't. You are actually a walking contradiction, as you practice nothing you preach.

You've probably heard the saying about opinions. Now are we done, or you got chapter 3,4 and 5 still to go of your lecture on my numbered days.

Also, quick trivia to keep you on your toes. How many blades of grass in your back yard?

Enjoy Stacky.:thumbsup:

Well I guess your respectful relationship is behind the scenes because ignoring his warning was disrespectful in public. You have explained the infraction so he didn't ding you for being disrespectful to administrator.

I certainly speak my mind, but I try to stay away from name calling. No question I can piss people off, but I honestly try to do it without getting too personal. You definitely can get a reaction out of someone a lot better than I can.
 
Okay im not getting into this debate Azzurri so my last reply. By bringing up things I mean in a couple of posts you have made today you have referenced you thought people must have had a pm from someone to post that. Now it doesn't take a genius to know who you were meaning would have sent the pms. But in doing that it also looks to people that you are looking for that person to react. Might not be your intention but it comes across like that.

And in your last post to me there you finish it with theres still 2 or 3 more to come and attack you. Maybe there is maybe there isn't but by posting like that it makes it look like you are trying to get a response. Maybe you aren't it might just be the way you talk.

Anyway you asked me to explain so I did, Maybe others have a vendetta against you , I don't know. But I don't have anything against you so like I said this will be my last post as im not getting caught up in the never ending " debate" .

Then this will be my last post to you Paul. ;)

Regarding the PM's. I don't 'think' people are receiving certain PM's, I know they are, and have physical evidence. Paul, people may think I'm an arsehole, and I can live with that, but one thing I'm not is a delusional sociopath who needs to make things up or lie to make a point. If you had to see some of the PM's I've been sent, or if I had to report each of them, your mind would be blown, and those people would be banned for some time.

I even received one that claimed I had manipulated Bryan and Max to be on my side. WTF?!! Not only is that offensive to both Bryan and Max, whom both are more then capable of having their own independent thoughts, but it's also clearly delusional and misguided, given the number of infractions and bans I've had. This is what I'm dealing with in private. The private none of you see.

What you don't see, is the timing of certain PM's that correspond to certain posts, and that is why I say I'm not stupid, can't be manipulated, and know what I'm talking about.

You say I am the one looking for a reaction, but remember I was the one that attempted calling a truce with one individual 3 times. Each time it was met with further notice of PM slagging, and subsequently personal PM attacks when I confronted the individual. I can assure you, your search for the villain is misguided, and way off course. One can only take so much.

My intentions are not to get a reaction at all. My intentions are to expose the chicken shit from the chicken salad, and call others out on their bullshit, regardless of what evidence others may see or not see. Like I said, I don't care who agrees with me or not, but I won't sit by silently and be played like a fool by others who are frankly not at my intelligence level. That doesn't mean I arrogantly think I'm smarter than most, but then most don't try to play childish games with me. If that makes me the bad guy, then so be it.

I can't be persuaded or manipulated by 'poor me' sob stories and the like, because we all have our own story to tell. Problem is there's a select few here, that think their status on this forum gives them free range to say and do what they like, whilst expecting their targets to sit and cop it on the chin without the right of reply. Maybe that was the case in the past, but then I wasn't around then.

Simple fact is, if you want to play mind games with me, or make sly underhanded remarks to me, be prepared to expect the same in return, because I can mix it with the best of them. Conversely, if you want a nice civilized conversation with me, approach it as such, and you will equally receive the same courtesy in return. If I did something you didn't appreciate, don't tell me by including a back handed or sly remark, just say you didn't appreciate it. You may be surprised when all you get in return is an apology.

It seems there's a select few here that constantly need a target, or are threatened by new blood or change. Observe, learn, and adapt, I say. Then maybe this forum can return to the glory days some speak of.

If the usual suspects didn't chime in with their bland and boringly repetitive antidotes within this thread, I can assure you I would have had nothing further to say, and this all would have been a distant memory.

That is as honest and frank a response as you'll get from me. Take it or leave it. ;)
 
Well I guess your respectful relationship is behind the scenes because ignoring his warning was disrespectful in public. You have explained the infraction so he didn't ding you for being disrespectful to administrator.

I certainly speak my mind, but I try to stay away from name calling. No question I can piss people off, but I honestly try to do it without getting too personal. You definitely can get a reaction out of someone a lot better than I can.

Was that the last word yet? :D
 
Minions?? Aren't they those funny little characters my daughter and friends have a craze about?

Azzurri sometimes you have to bite your tongue and walk away from these situations as they go on usually until Bryan snaps and somebody's name ends up going red.

It's tempting to have the last word or feel obliged to reply to every single post but that simply exacerbates the animosity and then the thread gets the 'bedknobs and broomsticks' effect.

Sometimes it takes a better man (or woman) to walk away...
 
Is it me or has everyone on CM lost there fricking minds this month. I swear every thread I have read in past 2 weeks has been filled with hostility. More negative post here then I have ever seen. Not a good way to enjoy my first cup of coffee. Can we all just be friends again and stop all the negativity.

I swear its been like 2 cats in an ally fighting over the last can of tuna fish.

Maybe we are just more or less on a losing streak. I know I am and have not been in the best mood last couple months. Just look at some of the mood swings I have had against couple new member threads. Though i WAS right but of course should had been more nice and maybe been careful in my approach of things. But as seen have been less active lately. But feel with my positive post in casino promos etc I feel that is the way to be here. Try think before you post or start a new thread, take a big breath and think okay maybe not worth it with a new thread or maybe making a silly comment because I feel offended or feel I strongly disagree with a member here. NO better to just let it go and move on fresh a new day.

We don't want all the negativity. I think it's about time everyone "freakin" woke up and realize that playing at Casinos or gambling one way or the other will leave you more or less empty pocket or to make it clear be prepared to see money you invest as gone. It should only be "enjoyed" as some fun time and not be expecting a big win or profit. Only one getting profit will be the casino.

Also this might seem negative and if it does then sorry to whoever works or is rep for the Casinos. But end of day it is a business and their job is to make players happy so they will come back deposit money and "lose". It is their gain to make players happy even give freebies or make nice exclusive promotions.

BUT what I want to point is there are several Rep's for Casinos here at Casinomeister who actually go way above that and actually care about us members here. Even so far as private and personal even helped members here in need and when something tragic had happened.

I feel that is a very nice touch from these guys. I would actually mention you all but think I have to be careful not to make this into a who is nice reps here and who is not. You know who you are and most members know who they are so will leave it at that. Any Rep's who agree with my whole statement here please do thank my post don't be afraid doing that because that would make it looks or seem its you.

I just felt was important to get my statement out here and what was on my mind. We can not all agree can we :thumbsup:
 
This is the only thing I thought was a minion. My fault for watching too many movies with my nieces. :o

If it has any other negative associations, then I apologize to anyone I may have offended. Ignorance on my part.

I think - although I don't know for sure - that the offense was more about the word "minion" - not whether they're cute or not (I love the minions!) But someone could interpret an offhand comment like that to mean that you think they're some mindless drones who do nothing without being under the control of an evil puppetmaster who sits back in their cushy chair watching the whole thing on closed circuit TV while stroking their (likewise evil) cat and chuckling diabolically.

Yes dammit, I like cartoons.

When in truth, for the most part, we're each an evil genius in our own right (some more than others, of course) and more than capable of jumping headfirst into the fray all by ourselves if we want to. :thumbsup:
 
Seems some people forget that when they are trying to inject humour into a situation & no tone of voice or body language can be interpreted, then in all likelihood the intention of what they've typed will not be conveyed correctly. In the absence of a 'sarcasm' font (Bryan, please get one of these(!)), it may be wise to insert the appropriate emoticon (:rolleyes:), or better still, avoid something that could be taken the wrong way.

People aren't always going to agree with one another & that generally sparks some healthy debate... Would be nice to see some of the efforts displayed in this thread turned to something a lot more positive & promoting many of the good things that can be found here.
 
Azzurri, congratulations.

You finally managed to chase your enemy Tirilej off the forum!
Man, you are so.. first class! So smart, I cant believe it!
Now open up a bottle of champaign to celebrate your utter Victory, because this must be YOUR moment of Exstasy!
It has to be because of your Wisdom that comes with your age (5 years old?) that you managed to reach this goal in life.
Again, congrats man, you truly ARE unmatched!

Tirilej is one of the nicest persons I have ever had the pleasure to meet.
Thats she leaves the forum because of you I'll never forgive you.

That slandercampaign you are accusing her for only exsists in your own pityful, childish mind.
We PM alot, and she never slandered you.

Your were the first person ever on my ignore list. Congrats again.
Thats why I didn't know what you were doing.


Btw, your back on ignore, so any reply will be a waste of virtual ink, like this whole thread actually is.
 
Azzurri, congratulations.

You finally managed to chase your enemy Tirilej off the forum!
Man, you are so.. first class! So smart, I cant believe it!
Now open up a bottle of champaign to celebrate your utter Victory, because this must be YOUR moment of Exstasy!
It has to be because of your Wisdom that comes with your age (5 years old?) that you managed to reach this goal in life.
Again, congrats man, you truly ARE unmatched!

Tirilej is one of the nicest persons I have ever had the pleasure to meet.
Thats she leaves the forum because of you I'll never forgive you.

That slandercampaign you are accusing her for only exsists in your own pityful, childish mind.
We PM alot, and she never slandered you.

Your were the first person ever on my ignore list. Congrats again.
Thats why I didn't know what you were doing.


Btw, your back on ignore, so any reply will be a waste of virtual ink, like this whole thread actually is.

Just in case curiosity gets the better of you.

Firstly, very nice post, and it's been reported. I thought I'd give that a go.

I won't respond to your insults, as they say more about you than I, however, I will state that you, I and Tirilej, are all capable of making our own decisions, and being accountable for them.

In my opinion, Tirilej just played her ace, and based on your response alone, it was effective.

So congratulations to you my friend.

If you are fishing for sympathy, or you wish to project a feeling of guilt on me by her decision, then you will be left disappointed. You are obviously friends with Tirilej, and think you know her well. That's fair enough, and I can understand you may be upset with me because of the choice she made. I can also appreciate you are a loyal friend, and perhaps foolishly, wanted to defend her by attacking me. However, you are not my friend, and therefore do not know me from a bar of soap, hence you have no idea how nice or nasty I may be.

You simply know her story, and understandably have no interest in knowing mine. But know any pain, hurt, or offense she felt, I also felt. The difference between us, was I was accountable for my actions, apologized for any of my wrongdoings, and attempted to call a truce with her numerous times.

At no stage during our conversations, did she accept any accountability for her actions, nor did she apologize or initiate a truce between us. She did however repeatedly tell me what an arsehole I was, and how much I have hurt her. On hearing the hurt I caused her initially, I apologized, and tried to explain in response that I had also felt the same hurt from her. However, this was continuously ignored, followed by another rant on how evil I was, and the pain I was causing. She was irrational, explosive, and unwilling to compromise. Read into that what you will, but for these reasons I find your attack misguided, and you may appreciate I struggle to take it seriously, or on board.

Tirilej made her bed, laid in it, and ultimately chose her final fate by deciding to leave. The skeptic in me feels like we have not seen the last of her, and a 'Tirilej Appreciation' thread may be just what she needs, or more accurately wants. Of course, this time I won't initiate the idea.

Your claims are unfair, yet I appreciate your passion.

I hope this will be the end of this madness, and any potential copycats rethink their approach, and chose not to take up the baton such as you have here. If so, I'd much rather not, but know I will defend myself with the same vigor and conviction I've displayed previously.

I wish no harm on anyone, and do not seek to offend or upset another person for my own sick pleasure, or simply to get a reaction. I've proven this time again in many of my 'normal' posts, and by what I would describe as valid and beneficial thoughts on any discussion. I'm all for mutual respect and appreciation, yet if you wish to show me two shades, by smiling and nodding politely at me whilst crossing your fingers behind your back, you can expect any trust to be instantly broken, and hence the best you will get from me is a truce to co-exist. If you choose to break that truce repeatedly, then live with the choices you make.

If you really knew me, you'd know that mean or evil, is not my way. Don't confuse what may seem at times like confidently well written and direct responses, with evil or obnoxious evil intent. It's just how I write, and my words and voice have always been my only weapon if called upon. I also graduated with honors from the school of hard knocks, so playing mind games with the intent to manipulate or abuse a relationship will be quickly discovered, and called out.

You say Tirilej is one of the nicest people here. Granted maybe, but I know she has had past run ins with others, including Igor if I'm not mistaken, so even nice people may not like everyone. With this being said, is it possible that a nice person, who just happens to come across someone they don't like, may use that nice reputation in their favor in order to manipulate and discourage others from liking that someone she just can't get along with?

One of Tirilej's biggest hurdles, and one she admitted to me, was she could not understand the fact, of how or why other members liked me or my posts, when she didn't. That was shocking to me, yet explained clearly why she continued this feud long after I got over it. The one thing that may hurt or enrage a nice person, is not being liked by all. Tirilej made it clear she could not cope with this, and a nice person finds it hard to find fault in themselves, hence I was the designated reason and target.

You and others have chosen to focus on my actions alone, and as I am the more outspoken and controversial in the public domain, you assume you know the person I am, and that I must be playing the role of evil villain. That may be your opinion, however that's no reason to get involved, or join in on the attacks of others, purely based on my comments and your assumptions of what may occurred or the person I am. With me, what you see is what you get, and I don't change my approach, feelings or opinions, based on whether my posts can be seen publicly, or privately.

What the public could see from Tirilej publicly, was not what I saw for myself, or via other sources in private. Simply, one of us was a wolf in sheep's clothing, and I have always proudly been more of a Bear (more Seth MacFarlane's Ted, than wild grizzly).

De Beuker, you seem to know so much, based on knowing so little. I have no idea who you are, or where you've been hiding, but I received an infraction for telling someone to grow up, so on the balance of probability, enjoy your short break. :thumbsup:

I'll say again to those who may have missed it previously.

The best way to move on and end this ridiculous discussion and tom foolery, is to cease posting and stop the attacks directed at me. Don't then cry foul if you then choose to abuse or attack me, only to not appreciate or like the response I give.

It's getting very boring. :(

EDIT: And how lovely to see some of you thank a post containing abuse directed at me. Again, says more about yourselves, than it does I, but also helps clarify some contradictions that puzzled me, and reaffirms my initial thoughts. Nice.
 
The best way to move on and end this ridiculous discussion and tom foolery, is to cease posting and stop the attacks directed at me. Don't then cry foul if you then choose to abuse or attack me, only to not appreciate or like the response I give.

It's getting very boring. :(

As a seemingly intelligent and articulate poster Azzurri, you must realise that there is another way to stop this dreadful thread: for you to just ignore it. What you are saying in your last post is that if you don't have the last word on the matter then you will perpetuate this. Surely you see that that kind of statement is pretty inflammatory???
 
wish i had the necessary knowledge to deal with english in accurate manner and say my pov without multiple senses. this is my weakness, i can't learn to write as good as i understand. but anyway, here is my short point. Tirilej should have never sent private messages with subtle/direct attacks and nobody would have had any problems with her.
is one thing to attack in private and to pose in public in immaculate virgin rabbit and one thing to attack in public for everyone to see destroying innocent virgin rabbit reputation. what Tirilej ended in privacy, Azzuri continued publicly damaging his reputation, people knowing only one or neither side of the story. this flame should have been maintained then extincted in public view in friendly manner, which Azzuri tried in Tirilej birthday thread just to be slapped on face.

i fail to understand her leaving just because of this. she is mature enough to deal with such internet problems. maybe a little emotionally unstable? i understand leaving because of gambling problems, unsatisfactory PABS or administrators/moderators actions in one view, but because of another member there is no point as the forum is large and if one non-stop attack another, will be punished. but there was no heavy hurt through 'unsupportable' words written to make this decision.
just my opinion but this will be yet another drama, members trying to make her comeback while Azzuri will be seen as a monster.
without irony, nobody can deny the quality of her posts and constant help in diverse problems, meaning she is a good member to have here. some wrong pms and here we are.

and as a side note, i wish the members will end hurting each other through reporting PRIVATE messages. in my eyes is unacceptable and privacy invasion when a third party companion read the private message. send me bombs and defaimatory words through pm and i will never report or make public, but i will remember your username and act like a jerk, unfortunately people not knowing why, thinking im a native jerk lmao.
 
WTF? I thought this was a gambling forum and not a fucking playground?

Sheesh will you stop with this petty bullshit. Azzurri, we've talked and you know Tirilej and I are pals, but I've tried to be diplomatic and see both sides and see where you've BOTH made mistakes in the past. But your bloody constant calling her out and belittling her in public either by name or by sly innuendo is just bullshit. Go back and look through your posts and see how many times you've done it. I have never ONCE seen her post anything bad about you except as a response to you.

I know her and she's just a person like the rest of us. She has good days and bad days and she makes mistakes sometimes. She's not this bloody evil manipulating mastermind you seem to think she is. She's been here for quite a long time and she has friends here. She sends tons of PMs to people every day and believe it or not, most of them have nothing to do with YOU.

For what it's worth and you probably won't believe this either - I think she's only once PMed me about anything to do with you and it was because she was upset and wanted to leave the forum. I talked her out of it by telling her that she should just put you on ignore if it was bothering her, that you would just eventually stop, that I'd talked to you and that you seemed reasonable.

I guess I was wrong.
 
EDIT: And how lovely to see some of you thank a post containing abuse directed at me. Again, says more about yourselves, than it does I, but also helps clarify some contradictions that puzzled me, and reaffirms my initial thoughts. Nice.

If you maybe thought about just minimizing your posts a bit then I would be fine. I guess ignore button is only outcome. You just seem to fill bit to much here mate sorry but that is my opinion. I just seem to have your posts pop up my face no matter whenever I log onto here.....I have never been against you here, I actually felt there was lot good in your posts where you openly apologized to Trilej. Though I have never taken any side in this so if I thanked a post from one or the other does not mean I take a stance. It is if someone in a post I agree in or acknowledge.

But now I just feel all this has reached its climax and enough is ENOUGH!

Says more about us that we like someones post oh man grow a life you :rolleyes:
 
Thats alot of words to say .. very little.

Ofcourse you reported my post, I expected you to do that.
I dont regret posting it, I'll take the infraction for granted.
I only regret not posting it 2 months ago.

You can say whatever you want dude, fact is that you've been on her back all the time, coming up with those lame, uncool under the belt responses whenever you feel like.
Any adult person would have turned their back long ago. Ignore, whatever.
Instead, you just kept stirring the pot. And you know you did.
Do what you said is best, turn your back. Leave her alone.

Now, can a mod stick a fork in this please?
 
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