3Dice *Sigh* Stupid friends

[xstud]

So I had a big turn of luck which ended with me +5000 or so at 3dice. Then I had a pending withdrawl and I asked support to just take 200.00 from it and credit back to my account which the support rep said she would look at doing. I was still happy because I would have my withdrawl at +4800.00 which I would be more then happy with.

So after a few hours still awaiting for an e-mail from support telling me this has been done I showed my friend my wins and screenshots and showed him the withdrawl within 3 dice... I didn't see the 200.00 but no big deal, I then went to the cashier and showed my friend the withdrawl was there and everything was cool. I then take a shower and go to the store and come back with some food to find my friend had reversed almost 3000.00 of it after it had been in processing for 2 days

To make matters worse he had lost it all. Then I proceeded to get so upset I just told him to do whatever with the rest and he was determined to win it back and was betting 300.00 a hand at blackjack. I could not even watch.

End of session -5000.00.

BUT on a bright note, Anna at support gave me a 75.00 token to use which I politely declined and she apologized that my withdrawl was reverseable and told me that she had sent me an e-mail informing me thats what they did (ended up in my spam folder. thanks aol)

So moral of the story, just don't touch withdrawls. If support says they will transfer funds, assume that it means making the withdrawl reversable. The awesome thing about 3dice is that she said she would pass my case onto Enzo to see if he will do anything (highly unlikely) and that was at least something.

I will wait and see. If ENZO does anything in regards to my withdrawl he earned a customer for life and forget MG casinos. But like I said... highly unlikely.

We will see.

Just had to type a rant that some people might find funny since this totally ruined my week .

Thanks

 

[I<3Microgaming]

So moral of the story, I am friends with an immense asshole

Fixed your post!

But seriously?!? How could a "friend" do this to you? I would ring his neck!

 

[heatherad]

Fixed your post!

But seriously?!? How could a "friend" do this to you? I would ring his neck!

I was thinking the same thing. What kind of friend would do that to another friends money?!?
Also, did you just leave the casino open with your friend having free reign or did your friend have your password?
Also, Enzo is not responsible for what your friend does, so I wouldn't even hint at the possibility of him doing a favor. Good lesson to be learned for you though

 

[tim5ny]

You're telling us that your "friend" knew this was real money.. and he just started gambling it away?? 3K by the time you caught him?? Something is wrong with you if he doesn't have a bullet through his head by now!

 

[1819]

anna should not apologize. your "friend" should. why would you leave your account open when you left? then you saw he lost 3k and gave him the other 2k to play with? something wrong here. "friend" would be in jail or at least have broken bones in his face. if you were inclined to let him have the money then you have no right to be upset. as far as enzo is concerned...why should he have to do anything? not his fault you let someone else have access to your personal account. wow that is a strange story.

 

[tim5ny]

The part that sounds phony is that you say you just gave him the rest to lose. $1,800.00 . Who the hell would do that?

 

[RobWin]

Name of Post needs To be Changed !

xstud, I could say a lot of things to you right now but I will hold back. Do you even know that someone else is not suppost to have access to your account and that all online casinos frown on you letting someone else play on your account ? How old are you anyway ? To leave someone else access to your gaming account, are you absolutely nuts or what man ?

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with support or Enzo and for you to even think that it does is irrational thinking, if I were Enzo I would close your gaming account immediately for even letting someone else have access to it With your knowledge...jeeze man, what the hell were you thinking or I guess you were not thinking right ?

 

[The Dude]

I hate to be a rainy parade, but I hope Enzo passes on this. The problem is in your abode and not with the casino. Why even admit this?? I'd be busy trying to bail myself out of jail after a serious round of whoop-ass.

I hope that your friend doesn't have the same play pattern as you. That would be awfully suspicious. Believe me, this has happened many times before. There are a number of cases where some teenager cracks a parent's password and plays out the parent's funds (or "steals" a credit card). Yet the "teenager" played the same games as the parent in the same manner....

Not saying this happened here, but it's something most all casinos are wise to.

 

[me_and_ed]

Sounds like the two friends, the white one with the ring atop its head that sits on your left shoulder saying cash out, and the red one on your right shoulder with the three pronged fork that says WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU DOING YOU CAN EASILY PARLAY THIS INTO 10K, I have friends like that too.

 

[xstud]

Let's put it this way, he owes me money.

I never said that this was a smart thing and I know Enzo probably won't do anything I am just giving my hat off to the support team at 3dice for even mentioning this to him.

If they did anything it would be a shocker to me...

I don't expect anything to be done, and Anna did not have to apologize at all. The only thing that is difficult that I feel that 3dice should say sorry for is that I only requested 200.00 be transfered from my withdrawl to my account.

Everything else is my fault. I don't want flames... this was just a rant. I am not begging for money or expecting anything.

 

[xstud]

xstud, I could say a lot of things to you right now but I will hold back. Do you even know that someone else is not suppost to have access to your account and that all online casinos frown on you letting someone else play on your account ? How old are you anyway ? To leave someone else access to your gaming account, are you absolutely nuts or what man ?

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with support or Enzo and for you to even think that it does is irrational thinking, if I were Enzo I would close your gaming account immediately for even letting someone else have access to it With your knowledge...jeeze man, what the hell were you thinking or I guess you were not thinking right ?

I want to assure everyone I am not begging for anything. This was simply a rant. I have a chat log saying they would just transfer 200.00 to my account and e-mail me. IT IS MY FAULT... I left myself logged in. I was simply impressed that Support would even pass something like this to ENZO. You all can hope I am out the money, and hope that nothing is done... which I almost gurantee you nothing will be done. This was a rant and also applauding customer service at 3dice.

I am pissed at my friend. Pissed at myself and pissed that 200.00 was not transfered like the rep said it would. However AOL's spam filters suck and anna's e-mail was kicked to spam.

Just don't flame. please.

Change the topic to I am a dumbass if you want.

 

[tim5ny]

Everything else is my fault. I don't want flames... this was just a rant. I am not begging for money or expecting anything.

I understand! You prolly feel bad enough without us ganging up on you... but damn!!! Does your friend usually stay in your house while you leave to go out?

 

[xstud]

yeah, I am 26. This guy is like a college buddy... or was. I thought he would appreciate it and think a win like this was cool.

I let him hang out there because I have known him for 4 years.... never thought someone would do something like this. Again, the point I really wanted to get across to is just leave withdrawls alone.

I shouldn't have even asked for a dollar.... I should have left it and it probably would have been sent out via check today.

I kicked my friend out because I was so pissed but looking back I don't know who i should be most mad at... probably myself.

 

[tim5ny]

What I do alot of times at 3Dice is tell them to hide my cash-in from me so that I can't reverse it. Enzo always does it instantly when I ask him.

 

[just play]

yeah, I am 26. This guy is like a college buddy... or was. I thought he would appreciate it and think a win like this was cool.

I let him hang out there because I have known him for 4 years.... never thought someone would do something like this. Again, the point I really wanted to get across to is just leave withdrawls alone.

I shouldn't have even asked for a dollar.... I should have left it and it probably would have been sent out via check today.

I kicked my friend out because I was so pissed but looking back I don't know who i should be most mad at... probably myself.

Taking you for your word.......Are you sure your friend KNEW this was real money? And to echo someone else, why would you let him spend the rest $1,800 or so?????? You could have cashed that out.

What did he say when you came back and found out that he lost your money?

Your never getting that back from him.

ALSO.......NO WAY should Enzo do ANYTHING for you. Your mistake not his.

 

[just play]

IT IS MY FAULT... I left myself logged in. I was simply impressed that Support would even pass something like this to ENZO. You all can hope I am out the money, and hope that nothing is done... which I almost gurantee you nothing will be done

It's not almost guarantee....it's GUARANTEE that nothing will be done.

 

[RobWin]

yeah, I am 26. This guy is like a college buddy... or was. I thought he would appreciate it and think a win like this was cool.

I kicked my friend out because I was so pissed but looking back I don't know who i should be most mad at... probably myself.

I thought you may be young xstud, based on your previous comments...I mean no offense by that, hell I wish I had my youth back, I am an old fart now but I also was like you in my youth by being naive and I too have learned a lot of lifes lessons the hard way...but look you definitely do not have anyone to blame but yourself and when you can come to that realization you can grow...good luck in the future...

 

[kakata]

Everybody in here knows how much I do love 3dice........(still waiting for that answer from ENZO)
Dude you lost your money.................and I would have killed that friend.....if "the friend" does exist

 

[xstud]

It's not almost guarantee....it's GUARANTEE that nothing will be done.

Look, I get it. Don't people read what I wrote? I simply said

"Hat's off to the support team at 3dice for even passing this to ENZO"

This was above and beyond what they should do. The only issue Enzo even would have to look at is the chat log that says.... It does not say anything about making my withdrawl reverseable. Maybe common sense would tell you otherwise but then I guess I have none.


[email protected]: would I be able to shorten the withdrawl by 200.00 so I
have some money to play with or will this cause my withdrawl to be further
delayed?

Anna: I am not sure let me check ..

[email protected]: ok

Anna: if the check left than no but if it did not than it would still be
possible

Anna: let me check

[email protected]: thank you

Anna: ok could not get a holf of someone at the finance right now...but I have
left a message

[email protected]: ok

Anna: so if its still possible I wiill do it

[email protected]: excellent

Anna: and let you know by e-mail


It is my fault I stayed logged in. It is my friends fault that he reversed everything. It is my fault that in a moment of frustration just said "go ahead and spend the rest" because i was pissed.

I don't need people to say "Hey I know Enzo won't do anything" or "I hope they don't do anything".

I am 26 years old, I made a mistake. Wishing and hoping that enzo does nothing is your own peragotive. I already feel like crap and I usually come to this forum to feel better... I never thought that some individuals would be flaming me or semi-attacking.

I am not asking for anything and in fact I even refered a friend to 3dice after this event occured.

 

[xstud]

Everybody in here knows how much I do love 3dice........(still waiting for that answer from ENZO)
Dude you lost your money.................and I would have killed that friend.....if "the friend" does exist

If the friend exists? I have been a member here for years and have never posted anything like this. I have no reason to lie and I realize a lot of scammers come on here with 1 or 2 posts and registered a week ago or even the same day and tell sob stories or pitch a bitch. But I have done none of that. In this thread alone I have not asked for anything....

I guess I am just shocked that people jump at the chance to fire away at someone.

 

[me_and_ed]

If the friend exists? I have been a member here for years and have never posted anything like this. I have no reason to lie and I realize a lot of scammers come on here with 1 or 2 posts and registered a week ago or even the same day and tell sob stories or pitch a bitch. But I have done none of that. In this thread alone I have not asked for anything....

I guess I am just shocked that people jump at the chance to fire away at someone.

What did you expect? If it were you reading this post what would you think? Remember you posted this, gambling addiction has a way of making good people do stupid things, I can almost bet (hahaha) that half the people that have read this have reversed a withdrawl and been absolutely pissed after losing it, especially something that substantial, nobody is "burning" you, the story is just really really really really far fetched.

 

[kakata]

I said if............sorry...........if it does ,,,than KILL HIM.....
Im" the friend" of my self........Im goin to kill him....
I apologize.....didnt mean to be rude.

 

[anniemac]

Actually, XSTUD, I read your post and I can't say that you were asking for anything from anybody. You weren't blaming the casino, just yourself. Now for the life of me, I can't figure out why your 'friend' is still alive but, hey, I am a middle aged, PMSing, female. He would have died and at least wished he had. But my sign. other has a friend that would have done the same thing.

Don't feel bad about some of the posts. I have found out from my time here that some people just like to jump on others from time to time. Kinda like "Kick 'em when they are down" syndrome.

Did something like this once myself. Won at a Rival, asked for withdrawal to be flushed. To make a long story short, not flushed quick enough = no withdrawal for me. Reversed it all, lost it all. Still kicking my behind. Not casinos fault.

 

[Rusty]

We are just a cynical grouchy bunch but at least we don't pretend to be your friend.

If that happened to me it would of cost 5000 and the price of a new monitor to replace the one that my "friend" was wearing.

Seriously though If what you say is true then it really is a horrible thing to happen to you and you should let everybody in your social circle know just what an arsehole he is.

 

[kakata]

Kinda like "Kick 'em when they are down" syndrome.


Me too .....went thru the same.Many times

 

[xstud]

We are just a cynical grouchy bunch but at least we don't pretend to be your friend.

If that happened to me it would of cost 5000 and the price of a new monitor to replace the one that my "friend" was wearing.

Seriously though If what you say is true then it really is a horrible thing to happen to you and you should let everybody in your social circle know just what an arsehole he is.

The biggest reason I made him leave is because I was afraid what i would do. Which is scary because money is money. It is an important thing that drives us but I hate to think of a friend of 4 years and me lunging at him over 5000.00 it is a price on someones head which is a bad thing. Like I said there are a lot of things at fault.

I understand that this is a gambling forum and there are a lot of addicts that say or do things or exaggerate stories or even make things up to make themselves feel better. I could go as far as to post the 3dice logs and I am almost positive the betting patterns are extremely different from me playing Medieval moolah at 6.00 per spin than him losing 5k in about 45 mins.

Ultimately If Enzo could or would do something it would be a great thing and I would be more grateful than anyone would know and it is up to him. He could flat out throw away my e-mail or laugh his ass off or even post it up as a joke. I am 26 and this is a lot of money for me to lose especially over stupidity. The fact that someone would even send this case is a true testament to the group at 3dice... especially having a rep apologize and give me a 75.00 chip (which I refuse to play).

So people can continue to say negative things, or whatnot. I am a very positive person and really if you look at older posts (I know I post rarely) you would see this... I even posted about gambling addiction.

Well I will quit babbling. thanks to those that don't fire away at me. Thanks to the few if any that believe my story... and to the rest of you... good luck and god bless.

 

[RobWin]

xstud;210399

The biggest reason I made him leave is because I was afraid what i would do. Which is scary because money is money. It is an important thing that drives us but I hate to think of a friend of 4 years and me lunging at him over 5000.00 it is a price on someones head which is a bad thing. Like I said there are a lot of things at fault.

I think a lot of folks are missing the attributes of the meaning of a true friend here, what True Friend would actually do this to someone they consider a friend and if they did are they really a True Friend ?

I could go as far as to post the 3dice logs and I am almost positive the betting patterns are extremely different from me playing Medieval moolah at 6.00 per spin than him losing 5k in about 45 mins.

What reason would it matter whether or not you posted the gaming logs, you are still missing the point..He Should Not Have Been Playing On Your Gaming Account Anyway ! That is your responsibility to keep it secure.

Ultimately If Enzo could or would do something it would be a great thing and I would be more grateful than anyone would know and it is up to him.

I still can not believe that you would seriously like for Enzo to get involved here and do something. What is it exactly that you want him or expect him to do for you ? I bet you would be grateful, hell I would love for all the casino reps to "Do Something" for me when I have been stupid in the past, don't freak out, I'm not saying that you are stupid, I said when I have been stupid in the past !

I am 26 and this is a lot of money for me to lose especially over stupidity.

Do you know how long it takes most people to actually earn that much money by working hard day to day at a regular job ? Go back and re-read my previous post about lifes lessons...learn from this experience and get on with your life.

The fact that someone would even send this case is a true testament to the group at 3dice... especially having a rep apologize and give me a 75.00 chip (which I refuse to play).

There was no reason for Anna or whomever to apologize either.

Well I will quit babbling. thanks to those that don't fire away at me. Thanks to the few if any that believe my story... and to the rest of you... good luck and god bless.

If you will only stand back for a moment and try to look at all of this as constructive criticism then maybe, just maybe you will be able to learn from this experience and not let yourself get into this kind of predicament again.

 

[heatherad]

Ultimately If Enzo could or would do something it would be a great thing and I would be more grateful than anyone would know and it is up to him. He could flat out throw away my e-mail or laugh his ass off or even post it up as a joke. I am 26 and this is a lot of money for me to lose especially over stupidity. The fact that someone would even send this case is a true testament to the group at 3dice... especially having a rep apologize and give me a 75.00 chip (which I refuse to play).

Maybe had you posted your rant without mentioning the casino it would of come across alittle different to some readers. Just my opinion.
Be that as it may, the only thing that catches my attention is the fact that although you keep saying that Enzo doesn't owe you anything from your own fiascal, you keep wording it accordingly *IF Enzo COULD or WOULD do something it would be a great thing* etc, etc. Knowing it is not Enzo's or the casinos fault perhaps you should just come right out and say this and let Enzo know you DON'T expect anything for something he didn't do.
By wording it the way you do, you're making it look like you're saying you don't want anything but are hoping that you do get something.
That was the only thing about your post that wasn't sitting right with me, the fact that in your wording you were making it look like you had hoped Enzo would compensate you for something you and your friend done.
And remember, this is just my own opinion, its not flaming and its not jumping on you, rather it is a forum readers opinion which we are ALL entitled to.
Good luck in the future.

 

[LOOKAWAY]

Hi your friend must be realy good in bed. Or if he isnt so what pimp his ass out and get your money back. Or as previously said bullet to the head.

Anyway i have some realy dodgy friends probaly wouldnt leave them at my cp full stop. But if i did i dont think they would blow my cash like that $100 and they would leave town in an instant.. But i would give them something to play with.

Ok i have met people who do this kind off thing to people we all have even if you have know them for 20 years or so they only care about number1 full stop have a cheaky smile when the shit hits the fan which alot off people full for and so on.

And xstud your probaly a realy super nice chilled out kind person whos needs to let it all out you have my shoulder dude. And who ever said that bad things dont happen to good people.

But common you got millions right we could be friends i would never blow your cash like that.

PS. I hope you get a super sweet roll to even things out.

 

[Matthew23]

If it was any other casino you would not be posting this here. We all know 3Dice and Enzo are very generous and understanding and I think people try to take advantage of that.

There is no chance of you being compensated for your mistake. If you were, then it would piss off everyone else who has ever reversed a withdrawal and lost it.

 

[xstud]

Maybe had you posted your rant without mentioning the casino it would of come across alittle different to some readers. Just my opinion.
Be that as it may, the only thing that catches my attention is the fact that although you keep saying that Enzo doesn't owe you anything from your own fiascal, you keep wording it accordingly *IF Enzo COULD or WOULD do something it would be a great thing* etc, etc. Knowing it is not Enzo's or the casinos fault perhaps you should just come right out and say this and let Enzo know you DON'T expect anything for something he didn't do.
By wording it the way you do, you're making it look like you're saying you don't want anything but are hoping that you do get something.
That was the only thing about your post that wasn't sitting right with me, the fact that in your wording you were making it look like you had hoped Enzo would compensate you for something you and your friend done.
And remember, this is just my own opinion, its not flaming and its not jumping on you, rather it is a forum readers opinion which we are ALL entitled to.
Good luck in the future.

I fully respect everyone's opinion and I respect the constructive criticism. But if the tables were turned and roles were reversed I would see people hoping that something would get done. In life a lot of what we have is hope.

The only thing that is upsetting that the casino did is I had the understanding my account would be just credited 200.00.

Honestly, I understand and respect peoples opinions. The only reason I brought the gambling logs is because Bryan mentioned betting patterns when he posted.

We can go back and forth all day and people can say this is a hard lesson learned. I am a positive person that believes that there is hope for anything. Everyone can say nothing will happen, it is a true testament to society and people if something does happen, even if nothing happens the fact that a casino would even look at it is a testament to this casino group.

I am listening to everyone else's opinions and criticism and seing people wish that nothing gets done and calling people like my friend a scumbag. Maybe he is not going to ever be my friend again... maybe he is a POS. I never knew this would happen and maybe I am a sucker for letting it happen... And maybe everyone here thinks that I am pathetic for all of this which is fine.

Bottom line, I am a nice guy who is over trusting and it burned me bad. I have hope in so many things and so many never come true... really I am just tired, upset and irritated.

Sitting here having people make me feel bad for having hope is sad and tiring. Because I know if I was a true POS I could just do chargebacks and be a POS that a lot of gamblers are. But I am more impressed that someone would WANT TO apologize without me asking for an apology. Also, WANT TO pass an issue like this onto ENZO.

That's the whole point of my rant... it was 3 things.

1. A way to vent (I don't have a lot of friends)
2. A way to share my experience with the Customer Service at 3dice
3. A way to share a horrible experience that maybe nobody would ever have it happen to them anyways... but the occasional person that comes here may read my thread and be a little more cautious or not be as stupid as I was.

Thanks

 

[markjacob]

Being the cynic that I am, I would venture that you are pissed off that you played back the money, and would "like" some restitution from the casino.

 

[paul02085]

After seeing how various people try to leach on Enzo because he is a good man i can understand why so many of the online casinos are perceived to be so cruel and evil. If i listened to a bunch of sponges begging to be given something for no good reason i would very soon tell them all to go to hell.

If i see another post begging for a gimme from 3 Dice i am going to vomit. Some people have no shame.

 

[xstud]

Being the cynic that I am, I would venture that you are pissed off that you played back the money, and would "like" some restitution from the casino.

That is your opinion which is why I have said numerous times I doubt anything will be done and am not counting on it.

If I wanted restition I would just call my bank and do chargebacks which by the way I do not intend on doing and will not do.

Am I just that sad? I mean do I just project someone who tells nothing but lies?

Just honest questions...

 

[xstud]

After seeing how various people try to leach on Enzo because he is a good man i can understand why so many of the online casinos are perceived to be so cruel and evil. If i listened to a bunch of sponges begging to be given something for no good reason i would very soon tell them all to go to hell.

If i see another post begging for a gimme from 3 Dice i am going to vomit. Some people have no shame.

Please just close and lock thread. I will send off my e-mail to 3dice to request they not even look at this. WHICH THEY OFFERED TO DO WITHOUT ME ASKING

 

[lojo]

I wouldn't sweat it xstud. This thread could get messy. You've made your point: some see your point, others are open minded, others will see the dark side. You know. That's good enough isn't it?

You've been around a while, you've seen the various manipulations that losers use on casinos. Can you blame the cynics? I don't have an opinion either way, it's nunmybidness.

 

[hippo925]

I wouldn't sweat it xstud. This thread could get messy. You've made your point: some see your point, others are open minded, others will see the dark side. You know. That's good enough isn't it?

You've been around a while, you've seen the various manipulations that losers use on casinos. Can you blame the cynics? I don't have an opinion either way, it's nunmybidness.

agree 100% that you should not sweat it and that you made your point.

being cynical is one thing, being outrought mean and rude is another. it's amazing how people can express the same thing in totally different manners. i'm not sure how you deserved some of these posts, but i'm sure you can tell which ones are from people who are trying to be constructive

"Am I just that sad? I mean do I just project someone who tells nothing but lies?"

absolutely not!!! i'm a little suprised too, but i agree with everyone on this matter...that is... everyone who presented their thoughts in a diginifed manner. but who's to say everyone has to be nice? (please don't jump on me now )

 

[xstud]

agree 100% that you should not sweat it and that you made your point.

being cynical is one thing, being outrought mean and rude is another. it's amazing how people can express the same thing in totally different manners. i'm not sure how you deserved some of these posts, but i'm sure you can tell which ones are from people who are trying to be constructive

"Am I just that sad? I mean do I just project someone who tells nothing but lies?"

absolutely not!!! i'm a little suprised too, but i agree with everyone on this matter...that is... everyone who presented their thoughts in a diginifed manner. but who's to say everyone has to be nice? (please don't jump on me now )

I want to apologize to everyone who I may have jumped back at. I guess I am naive to think that everything is great all the time and we all get along perfect and that everyone will always believe everyone else. My biggest problem is when I am betrayed like I am and then I go to a message board full of gamblers, I guess I expect a little sympathy and compassion not people firing back like they have.

I am fully aware of the kinds of posts that have appeared on these boards over the years and even more aware of the different personalities that people have.

I guess the best way to describe myself is someone who has just has hope in every little aspect of life. Luckily I do believe in Karma and what goes around comes around. So with any luck what happened to me will fall back 10 fold on my "friend".

I am 26 live in minnesota, on disability and don't have a lot of friends so I resort to message boards. I unfortunately have to realize that not everyone can be my friend or like me or agree with me etc... if it were like that we would be living in a perfect world.

I really was just surprised by a lot of comments on here because like I said I always came here because it seemed mostly positive... I saw some crazy threads and people get banned for stuff as lame as "threatening violence" but I never in a million years thought I would end up being someone who painted a target of similar comments.

I already hopped back onto support and explained everything to a different rep and told them to e-mail enzo and tell him not to waste his time.. they again said I should just talk to Enzo before I close the issue. Sure the money is important, but it's plain as day for me to even have hope I would fall into the category of "leech" or "pathetic" and I would deserve to be banned.

I guess everyone here is right... I just need to stop being someone who trusts everyone and believes a lot and has faith in a lot more.

 

[babs7262]

What a jerk! My friend did the same thing to me BUT....on a much much smaller scale, but still. She asked me first and I said, "yes, but its real money so dont go past $blah" She was drinking wine and went through way more than she was suppose to. Ooops, sorry, I guess I got carried away.

Lesson Learned....giving someone your PC with a casino on is like giving someone your ATM card with the PIN number

 

[lojo]

I guess the best way to describe myself is someone who has just has hope in every little aspect of life. Luckily I do believe in Karma and what goes around comes around. So with any luck what happened to me will fall back 10 fold on my "friend".

There's a hell of a lot more to karma than that! That's just what we yanks can understand of it Keep your "hope" (and work towards it) in every little aspect, that IS Karma!

But of course Karma is also complete self responsibility, so you know where that line goes...

The rant would have netted different results if you were just blowing off steam at your friend and looking for empathy. You could have kept the casino name out of the information... until after it was settled.

Ya made a mess, oh well. But it's not going to polarize the community here.

 

[Rusty]

Only you know the truth xstud and if that is what you posted then any derogatory posts are irrelevant except in how they reflect on the posters.
Be true to yourself because everyone else is full of shit

I am sure though that you would of got more sympathy if you had not repeatedly stated your hope that Enzo might be able to help in some way.

People are likely to infer from that it is money rather than sympathy you wanted.

Good luck for the future.

Edit: Damn you Lojo stop reading my mind!

 

[lojo]

Edit: Damn you Rusty stop reading my mind!

Fixed yer post

Yours was more clear than mine

 

[hippo925]

Edit: Damn you Lojo stop reading my mind!

Not to derail but..... OMG, do you know how many times i've thought the same thing? Everytime i think i have something to add to a thread, Lojo is there first and usually says it much better than i would have! Plus he's some expert or something at research and finding things in threads 100 years old.:notworthy

 

[chuchu59]

Let's put it this way, he owes me money.

I never said that this was a smart thing and I know Enzo probably won't do anything I am just giving my hat off to the support team at 3dice for even mentioning this to him.

If they did anything it would be a shocker to me...

I don't expect anything to be done, and Anna did not have to apologize at all. The only thing that is difficult that I feel that 3dice should say sorry for is that I only requested 200.00 be transfered from my withdrawl to my account.

Everything else is my fault. I don't want flames... this was just a rant. I am not begging for money or expecting anything.

Hi,

It's a bit baffling. Does your friend owe you money now because he lost on your account? Anyway, this reverse withdrawal thing is very harmful and I have been a victim to it on numerous occasions and the total tally should have exceeded $3K by now. Your friend seems to be quite addicted but I am also wondering what your response would be if he had won big instead. Try to forget the whole issue and it is imperative you stay away from online gambling for some time because you simply lost the remaining $1800 on the spur of the moment which is not a good sign under any circumstances. This is akin to chasing losses and could end you up in a deep hole.

 

[Slotster!]

You played it back through, no doubt about it...

I'm not having a go by any means -- I feel your pain and have absolute sympathy! The amount of times I've reversed and dumped back in four figure amounts... well it's a lot; and I feel stupider each and every time.

Weird thing this gambling malarkey... You need some sort of symbol at your desk/in your pocket wherever... Something like a photo of the family or something important... Attribute a specific thought and value to it, so that just as you're about to pour that 2k withdrawal down the drain -- look at the photo/object and remember what you could be doing with it instead.

It's a lot easier to log off and switch the computer off that way!

Getting to a point where recreational gambling is a genuinely enjoyable pastime and in no way destructive is a very nice place to be. Compulsive behaviour in any activity is always bad news.

Best of luck with everything!

 

[GrandMaster]

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

 

[happygobrokey]

invite the friend over again, slip him some roofies, and steal one of his kidneys

 

[xstud]

invite the friend over again, slip him some roofies, and steal one of his kidneys

The saddest thing about this is that I don't have a lot of "friends" and needless to say I am in the toughest situation... do you continue talking to a "friend" like this just to have hope of getting money back? or do you just say "screw it" regardless I am so mad I am better off not talking to him for a while because I don't want to do anything stupid.

I have cooled down and I am done defending myself... for those of you that said only I know the truth... you are totally right! convincing a bunch of people on a message board is ridiculous and the fact that people thought this was a begging thread was my fault. I should have waited like one of the posters said and then if by some miracle 3dice did anything it would have been a more positive vibe on them.

If they did nothing... well nothing is lost and nothing changed.

Sorry for those of you that thought I was begging or putting 3dice down.

As a side note. Frankly reversing entire withdrawls is something i have never really done because when I hit that button I realize it is "my money" I think that there are cases where it simply doesn't make sense for the processing time to take as long as it does but this is the new world of online gaming.

 

[Aldebaran]

Hi xstud,
It does not matter what I, or any other stranger on a forum believe happened to you. Having money stolen by a friend is very unpleasant and losing winnings through reverse withdrawls is not pleasant either.

I'm not sure you will find a handful of people in this forum who have not withdrawn winnings. I have, regretted it, exercised self control for a few withdrawls and then been tempted again. Most of us can empathise with this. Its a gambler's dilemma.

What does does jar, and what has possibly provoked some of the "flaming posts" is the sense, from your posts, that you are entitled to something.

You mention you are 26, like that should excuse things. Friend, 26 is not young.
The average age of soldiers fighting in WW2 was 26 (Vietnam-22y)

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You are an adult, remember that.

Take a look at article 2 (link below) and think about the courage that 13 year old must have to even wake up in the morning and face the day. Think about how grateful she is to have a loaf of bread because she has learnt that despite all politicians great words in great laws she is entitled to nothing. She is half your age.

The $75 that you are petulantly refusing from 3Dice would amount to 10 days work for the 17 year old in Article2. It would have supplied the family with about 50 loaves of bread and 50 litres of milk. If you don't want it, perhaps you could ask 3Dice to donate it to someone who will see it as a blessing.

And of the $5000 that disappeared, well that could have radically changed someone's llife. You could have supported this young man and paid for his education for 8 months.

The $1800 that you gave away? What could that have achieved?

The second wish granted came from the Tomorrow Trust for one of their students, Linda.
Both Lindas parents had died as a result of Aids his mother in 1999 and his father in early 2000. Linda and his older brother were left to take care of their three other siblings. He was only 15 at the time.
He and his brother sold drinks and apples on the roadside to keep a roof over their heads and to enable the younger siblings to go to school. The pressure got to much for Linda and he dropped out of school and ended up living on the streets.
In 2004 Lindas brother died of a HIV-related illness. Linda decided to go back to school and passed grade 11 and matric.
In 2006 he learnt of Tomorrow Trust and was given the opportunity to continue studying. He excelled at college and passed all his subjects. His sister, Thokozane also enrolled and is doing well.
The Tomorrow Trusts wish was for the sibling to get funding for their studies.
1Life Direct offered to sponsor Linda and Thokozanes studies to the value of R50 000.​

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What I am trying to say, in the clumsiest way, is the world owes you nothing and casinos owe you nothing more than the terms of agreement.

Put things in prespective. Lessons learnt.

"There but by the grace of God go I." John Bradford

 

[xstud]

Hi xstud,
It does not matter what I, or any other stranger on a forum believe happened to you. Having money stolen by a friend is very unpleasant and losing winnings through reverse withdrawls is not pleasant either.

I'm not sure you will find a handful of people in this forum who have not withdrawn winnings. I have, regretted it, exercised self control for a few withdrawls and then been tempted again. Most of us can empathise with this. Its a gambler's dilemma.

What does does jar, and what has possibly provoked some of the "flaming posts" is the sense, from your posts, that you are entitled to something.

You mention you are 26, like that should excuse things. Friend, 26 is not young.
The average age of soldiers fighting in WW2 was 26 (Vietnam-22y)

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

You are an adult, remember that.

Take a look at article 2 (link below) and think about the courage that 13 year old must have to even wake up in the morning and face the day. Think about how grateful she is to have a loaf of bread because she has learnt that despite all politicians great words in great laws she is entitled to nothing. She is half your age.

The $75 that you are petulantly refusing from 3Dice would amount to 10 days work for the 17 year old in Article2. It would have supplied the family with about 50 loaves of bread and 50 litres of milk. If you don't want it, perhaps you could ask 3Dice to donate it to someone who will see it as a blessing.

And of the $5000 that disappeared, well that could have radically changed someone's llife. You could have supported this young man and paid for his education for 8 months.

The $1800 that you gave away? What could that have achieved?

The second wish granted came from the Tomorrow Trust for one of their students, Linda.
Both Lindas parents had died as a result of Aids his mother in 1999 and his father in early 2000. Linda and his older brother were left to take care of their three other siblings. He was only 15 at the time.
He and his brother sold drinks and apples on the roadside to keep a roof over their heads and to enable the younger siblings to go to school. The pressure got to much for Linda and he dropped out of school and ended up living on the streets.
In 2004 Lindas brother died of a HIV-related illness. Linda decided to go back to school and passed grade 11 and matric.
In 2006 he learnt of Tomorrow Trust and was given the opportunity to continue studying. He excelled at college and passed all his subjects. His sister, Thokozane also enrolled and is doing well.
The Tomorrow Trusts wish was for the sibling to get funding for their studies.
1Life Direct offered to sponsor Linda and Thokozanes studies to the value of R50 000.​

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What I am trying to say, in the clumsiest way, is the world owes you nothing and casinos owe you nothing more than the terms of agreement.

Put things in prespective. Lessons learnt.

"There but by the grace of God go I." John Bradford

I don't want my posts to come across as anyone owes me anything. I am just stating where I am coming from thats all. If I was owed anything I would sit plain as day and beg. I realize how much money that is for people in other countries and I realize that I am in fact an adult.

That money could have changed my life or many other lives. But fact of the matter is the money is gone. I know this and am well aware. Right now any hope I have is the same hope that a person sitting at home watching the lotto on TV has hoping they are holding a winning ticket. And it's not hope with Enzo or any of his staff. It is hope within myself. Am I entitled to anything? No. Only entitled to what I can control in my daily life.

They don't have to do a damn thing, and frankly I have asked numerous times to just have them e-mail enzo and say forget it. I have asked for them to block and ban my IP. I hear the same thing

"Enzo is a really great guy and you really need to have him reveiw this first"

I don't ask that Enzo or any casino does anything because this is like walking into a brick and mortar casino and asking for a refund because you lost on the way out. I realize this is not how it works. The worst part is I was a victim and since online gambling is not regulated or policed in the US... there is nothing I can do. I wish I could call the cops... I wish I could file a police report or take him to small claims court. I wish I could do anything but about the only thing I can do is keep my chin up...

Thank you for your post and I want to assure you that the reason I said I am 26 a few times and said i don't have friends and all that jazz is because I am 26 and I don't have a lot of friends. It is fact and sad for me to admit. People can make fun of me, or critisize me or whatever, I am not asking for people to say "I am so sorry for you" or anything. If I was these posts would have been worded EXTREMELY different.

Thanks to those that have read and kept things on track without flaming. You really have helped me. I am sorry I get defensive but the worst things that some of us can feel or read is when you had something horrible happen and not one person believes you. It's like "the boy who cried wolf" syndrome except I have never cried wolf before.... i hope that made some kind of sense.