3Dice medium variance slots?
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Coral Clams possibly even Payola but you can always ask Enzo as he knows his own games well. He will even tell you the average number of spins you need to get a feature.
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Most (all, I think, actually) of the slots have a label for if they're high/medium/low variance so you can just mouseover the option to see. If you wanted specific names... "ArcticAdventure", "FortuneFalls", and "Coral Clams" are some of the options listed as medium.
As I recall, there's only one low variance slot though, and it's coupled with a high variance. (It's kind of a two-layer slot, where you're playing for color and symbol of each spot. I ran 10,000 spins on it in free mode and actually ended with a positive balance of 118.8 bets, go figure.)
As I recall, there's only one low variance slot though, and it's coupled with a high variance. (It's kind of a two-layer slot, where you're playing for color and symbol of each spot. I ran 10,000 spins on it in free mode and actually ended with a positive balance of 118.8 bets, go figure.)
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Thank you both for you're suggestionsI was originally under the impression that most of the games were high variance.
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To 3Dice they are not. 3Dice have labels on their slots to say which are low, medium and high and you can see this as soon as you login and put your mouse over a slot game.
The variance is based on 3Dice's assessment of the slots but to the general public and in comparison to other software most of their slots are comparatively high. (if that makes sense lol)
BTW Payola kicks my arse more often the Tut and Payola is meant to be a medium variance slot
It's hard to say what this casino uses as a guideline when they categorize their slot games. Arctic Treasure is labeled as medium and it's the one of highest variance slots in the casino. I usually run about a 30 or 40% RTP in this game until I either hit a big bonus feature or 5 of the highest paying symbols which can pay it all back in one shot. Don't get too excited about the 100 free spins. Usually about 75 of them are dead spins.
I don't play Payola because it takes a big bet to get a big hit. You can get a decent hit if you get 5 of the top paying symbols with a 3x wild unless you're in free spins where the wilds lose their multiplier. It's the only game I know of where lines with a wild pay less in free spins than they do in regular spins.
Wild Waves has a lot of potential as a medium variance slot. The expanding wilds help because you get multiple lines quite often paying back at least your wager or more if you can get one on the second reel. I find the free spins retrigger a lot more often than other games and if you can get multiple expanding wilds you can get some really big combinations. It's definitely one of my favorites.
Fortune falls would be a better medium variance game if the 3 scatter combinations gave more free spins. The line payouts are pretty good in this game but 3 free spins can be disappointing if you've waited a long time for them. The good thing is you don't need a bonus feature to get a decent hit. It's definitely medium variance. The free spins for 3 scatters should really range between 7 and 12 though not 3 and 7.
Coral Clams is a pretty well rounded medium variance game. The only way I really get burnt is the dreaded 2 spin free spin bonus. It comes with a massive multiplier and some day I'll hit something in those 2 spins. 4 scatters in this game has a good potential to give you a decent return.
Kyokos Quest is ok if you like those 243 ways to lose games and don't mind your bonus features having limits to what you can win. I haven't really played it enough to decide if it's medium variance or not. The problem I have is once you lose a certain amount of money an average 3 scatter bonus feature can't pay it back. I prefer to be in a position when I play slots to be able to win my money back with a decent bonus feature regardless of how much I lost and not require 4 or 5 scatters to do it. Also be careful if you're low rolling today and have a big balance tomorrow. If you get the final feature with 5 scatters it's an average of your bet sizes of all 5 features. Low rolling yesterday for the first 3 features will screw up your big hit at the end if you're max betting today. I guess it works both ways though. If you lost all your money yesterday high rolling and got the first 4 features, It'll jack up your final win if you're low rolling today and hit 5 scatters. (theoretically, I've never done it.)
Happy Valley, Stick Shifter and Star Struck all seem to hit just as often as the medium variance games and pay about the same. I'm not sure what the difference is.
Super Suits, Tut, Medieval Moolah, Aztec are definitely high variance in my opinion. Super Suits basically requires a bonus feature to get a big hit. You'll probably lose money pretty steadily until you get one but the feature can pay pretty good on a low bet.
This is all just in my experience. Other players will probably tell you a completely different story and any game will pay you a fortune if it's hitting and break you if it's not so there's no guarantee that playing low, medium or high variance games will keep you playing longer than any other or pay more in a bonus feature. I like to bounce around if games aren't paying. Some people like to sit and try to ride them out until they are. In the end there's no way of knowing which strategy will work on any given day. All you can do is spin and see what happens.
I don't play Payola because it takes a big bet to get a big hit. You can get a decent hit if you get 5 of the top paying symbols with a 3x wild unless you're in free spins where the wilds lose their multiplier. It's the only game I know of where lines with a wild pay less in free spins than they do in regular spins.
Wild Waves has a lot of potential as a medium variance slot. The expanding wilds help because you get multiple lines quite often paying back at least your wager or more if you can get one on the second reel. I find the free spins retrigger a lot more often than other games and if you can get multiple expanding wilds you can get some really big combinations. It's definitely one of my favorites.
Fortune falls would be a better medium variance game if the 3 scatter combinations gave more free spins. The line payouts are pretty good in this game but 3 free spins can be disappointing if you've waited a long time for them. The good thing is you don't need a bonus feature to get a decent hit. It's definitely medium variance. The free spins for 3 scatters should really range between 7 and 12 though not 3 and 7.
Coral Clams is a pretty well rounded medium variance game. The only way I really get burnt is the dreaded 2 spin free spin bonus. It comes with a massive multiplier and some day I'll hit something in those 2 spins. 4 scatters in this game has a good potential to give you a decent return.
Kyokos Quest is ok if you like those 243 ways to lose games and don't mind your bonus features having limits to what you can win. I haven't really played it enough to decide if it's medium variance or not. The problem I have is once you lose a certain amount of money an average 3 scatter bonus feature can't pay it back. I prefer to be in a position when I play slots to be able to win my money back with a decent bonus feature regardless of how much I lost and not require 4 or 5 scatters to do it. Also be careful if you're low rolling today and have a big balance tomorrow. If you get the final feature with 5 scatters it's an average of your bet sizes of all 5 features. Low rolling yesterday for the first 3 features will screw up your big hit at the end if you're max betting today. I guess it works both ways though. If you lost all your money yesterday high rolling and got the first 4 features, It'll jack up your final win if you're low rolling today and hit 5 scatters. (theoretically, I've never done it.)
Happy Valley, Stick Shifter and Star Struck all seem to hit just as often as the medium variance games and pay about the same. I'm not sure what the difference is.
Super Suits, Tut, Medieval Moolah, Aztec are definitely high variance in my opinion. Super Suits basically requires a bonus feature to get a big hit. You'll probably lose money pretty steadily until you get one but the feature can pay pretty good on a low bet.
This is all just in my experience. Other players will probably tell you a completely different story and any game will pay you a fortune if it's hitting and break you if it's not so there's no guarantee that playing low, medium or high variance games will keep you playing longer than any other or pay more in a bonus feature. I like to bounce around if games aren't paying. Some people like to sit and try to ride them out until they are. In the end there's no way of knowing which strategy will work on any given day. All you can do is spin and see what happens.
the wild on stick shifter also pays less in free spins than in normal mode
in normal mode wild= 2x, in free spins no
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@ Skiny;
You forgot to mention Slotronomicon!
This is one of my favourite slots at 3Dice, and possibly their lowest variance one...? (Though they very strangely label it as high)
The thing with this slot that many people might not realise (I didn't until I met Enzo and he told me himself) is that because the reel strips don't change and the free-spins are started and ended by getting the same 3 scatters, half of all the spins you play on this slot are free ones!
Your free-spins can potentially go into the 100's, and you can also get them all at x2 or x4 with the right trigger.
KK
You forgot to mention Slotronomicon!
This is one of my favourite slots at 3Dice, and possibly their lowest variance one...? (Though they very strangely label it as high)
The thing with this slot that many people might not realise (I didn't until I met Enzo and he told me himself) is that because the reel strips don't change and the free-spins are started and ended by getting the same 3 scatters, half of all the spins you play on this slot are free ones!
Your free-spins can potentially go into the 100's, and you can also get them all at x2 or x4 with the right trigger.
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The game is "Industria". The idea is you set how many coins you want to play on symbols and how many on colours. The more you skew towards colours, the lower the variance and vice-versa. Good game IMO.
I forgot about the lack of a multiplier on the wilds in that game. So these are the only two of that I know of anywhere.
@ Skiny;
You forgot to mention Slotronomicon!
This is one of my favourite slots at 3Dice, and possibly their lowest variance one...? (Though they very strangely label it as high)
The thing with this slot that many people might not realise (I didn't until I met Enzo and he told me himself) is that because the reel strips don't change and the free-spins are started and ended by getting the same 3 scatters, half of all the spins you play on this slot are free ones!
Your free-spins can potentially go into the 100's, and you can also get them all at x2 or x4 with the right trigger.
KK
That would be great if half your spins were actually free spins. I've played hundreds of hours in this game in tournament mode and I seriously doubt anywhere near half my spins are free spins. It also seems extremely rare that a bonus feature with a 4x multiplier ever lasts more than a few spins.
That's actually a good idea. Maybe double on the low variance and single on the high and see if that keeps you spinning long enough to get a bonus feature. The one thing I like about that game is the 20 free spins with a 4x multiplier. It's not so ridiculous that you're just going to sit through dozens of dead spins but high enough to get a decent return out of it.
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Signed up today for 3dice to see what the fuss was about ... deposited 10 and took 110%bonus. Tried almost all the slots... went up to 80+$ but not completed WR..... then lost it all but managed to have 3 hours playtime. Best game IMO was coral clams.
but managed to have 3 hours playtime. Best game IMO was coral clams.
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I don't care how they describe their slots... I wasn't able to find a low/medium one. I still want to win the fight though. 3Dice is the only casino software i played more then 10+ times without having one tiny cashout.
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Actually, from my limited experience Payola and Coral Clams are of lower variance than others at 3Dice. Of course you cannot compare them with MG where there are slots of very low variance.
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I think you can't compare them to ANY other slots.
Medium veriance at NetEnt, MG, IGT, WMS.... That is what i call medium. For me every single slot at 3Dice is at least MEDIUM-HIGH (leaning into high). You can go hundreds of spins on their medium slot without any OK line win.
Of course the slots are fair, nothing wrong with that, but i think they're all pretty high variance.
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