32Red Slotsmeister Exclusive Tourney

[Pinababy69]

If the format changes to amount wagered, I would probably sit out. No way I can compete with that with my $20 deposits. My bets range from 10 cents to 50 cents a spin, but I never go over that. I sweat at 50 cents per spin, lol.

 

[Pinababy69]

Ok what do you want...the boobies or the box

Cheers
T

LOL....I'll take what's behind door #3 Monty (hoping for a Greek God).

 

[Tengil]

If the format changes to amount wagered, I would probably sit out. No way I can compete with that with my $20 deposits. My bets range from 10 cents to 50 cents a spin, but I never go over that. I sweat at 50 cents per spin, lol.

Not purely on amount wagered. In my simple suggestion the amount of spins would still score twice as much as the amount wagered.

Example:
A. 10000 spins at 2/bet would be 20000 points from spins and 20000 points from the amount wagered. Total score 40000 points.

B. 20000 spins at 0,2/bet would be 40000 points from spins and 4000 points from wagering. Total score 44000 points.

Which weighting would be fair can be discussed.

Edit: and a further example, if 1 spin=3 points and 1 currency wagered=2 points

then the above would be A. 70000 points and B. 68000 points

 

[kmay87]

Not purely on amount wagered. In my simple suggestion the amount of spins would still score twice as much as the amount wagered.

Example:
A. 10000 spins at 2/bet would be 20000 points from spins and 20000 points from the amount wagered. Total score 40000 points.

B. 20000 spins at 0,2/bet would be 40000 points from spins and 4000 points from wagering. Total score 44000 points.

Which weighting would be fair can be discussed.

Edit: and a further example, if 1 spin=3 points and 1 currency wagered=2 points

then the above would be A. 70000 points and B. 68000 points

That potentially confuses what was a simple system though

 

[vinylweatherman]

One problem with the system is that it matters little what you do for most of the month, if you can't hang around till midnight on the last day, you might as well not take that much interest, since it is the last day where all the minor movements between players can make the difference between 250 and 32 in prize money.

One advantage (for us pair at least) of the old system was that it was easy to plan things to work out if you knew that you were likely to be elsewhere at the end of the month - just spin like **** on the days before

What is a disadvantage for us though, is a chance for the first time in a year for a few other members to have an advantage over us, of perhaps being at their PC in the dying hours, and being able to slip in a few hundred well timed spins to upset the order.

It should be allowed to run like this for a while though, to see if there is a more even distribution of prizes among players through the months.

The danger of no-one bothering to play at all seems not to be happening, rather it looks like many may be ignoring their position for now, and just playing the slots as normal. When the end of the month beckons, these players will no longer see us pair 100K spins ahead, they will see a real chance to slip in to 5th, or even 4th & 6th. The 100 peak prizes at several lower points is something I had not considered would happen, but would mean that decent 100 credit bonuses are there to be had by players all along the score trail, meaning there will be much to play for, and by many players, in the closing stages.

 

[Jasminebed]

One thing I do like about the current structure is more playing the bet sizes I enjoy most, not just lowrolling at minimum bets.

I'm hardly a high roller, but I do like to make some larger bets (for me maybe up to $4.50 rarely, and most often 40cents to $1), and rarely play as little as 9cents because for me it is more than just my position in the tourney, I like to win some money and withdraw some of the time.

I would not like to see it become just biggest bankroll wins by incorporating total bets.

The last thing 32Red wants to do is have us stop depositing and playing though, and all of the top spots are decent prizes. Heck, they are all decent prizes IMO.

I for one do not want to see games other than the slots in slotmeister though.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Hi All,

Once again, thanks for the great feedback. Let's have a look at some of the points:

...On the current prize structure:

The last thing 32Red wants to do is have us stop depositing and playing though, and all of the top spots are decent prizes. Heck, they are all decent prizes IMO.

My only concern is that because there will unlikely be 100k + individuals, will 32red be able to afford to keep it running in this way?

It should be allowed to run like this for a while though, to see if there is a more even distribution of prizes among players through the months.

These are all valid points, although the current prize structure is boosted as it's the anniversary of the Slotsmeister. As Kmay pointed out, although the idea of Slotsmeister isn't to make money - I also need to keep an eye on my free chip budget! Currently the lower 100 free chips position has just 221 spins (this could be as low as 22.10 staked) - I'd get castrated if I did this every month

...On adding new games:

I for one do not want to see games other than the slots in slotmeister though.

It wouldn't be a Slotsmeister if blackjack counted!

No BJ or Roulette as it is Slotmeister after all.

Well, I think thats answered that question - slots only it is

...On factoring in the Stakes

At least I think it should. I personally "cant" play at penny bets and to leave the slot at autoplay for whole days at minimum bet isnt actually that tempting either. The weightings can be discussed tough, like 1 spin= 2 points and 1 currency wagered= 1 point.

If the format changes to amount wagered, I would probably sit out.

Not purely on amount wagered. In my simple suggestion the amount of spins would still score twice as much as the amount wagered.

That potentially confuses what was a simple system though

This is a difficult one! The last thing I want to do is discourage players from taking part (don't go Pina!! ) but also, I agree with Spiderlegz - on the rare occasion when I play slots, I have a stake that I am comfortable with based on the payouts it gives me. I wouldn't get the 'buzz' if I was playing 10p a spin. I also don't want this to divulge peoples' stakes - 'wow, look, Mark_32Red has wagered just 32, he must be skint!' etc, at least the current leaderboard allows players at all stakes to compete without divulging the size of their bankroll.

I'm sure there is a way to solve these problems, I just haven't thought of it yet, lol!

...And this little gem:

Might be fun to play something like this *blind*...you won't know what prizes are where until the end of the tourney.

Now this is interesting - I like the idea. Almost like a 'deal or no deal' addition to Slotsmeister. The only negative I can think of is the announcing of the prizes, I don't want people to think I have favourites and 'randomly' award bigger prizes, lol!

Maybe one idea could be: A player from the previous month (maybe by vote or randomly picked) has the 'boobie prize' (no Pina, not those kind of boobies!) of picking what goes in each mystery position - so only them (and me of course) know what's in each secret box - could be a good advantage.

Some great ideas to think about! Thanks everyone.

Mark

 

[Slotster!]

Loving the "mystery prize" idea!

Mind you, I like the structure you've come up with this month too.

Anything a bit more 'random' and unexpected is good for Slots players I think...

 

[LinkinFart]

Nothing smart from me

Let me just say that whatever final decision may be I am in!!. Lets play some slots! I wanted to give something back to Casinomeister for being our watchdog whole 10 years. Keep it up.

 

[vinylweatherman]

How about awarding free spins on a slot as prizes, instead of a set bonus chip. The value of the free spins could be set to the value of the bonus chip, and each month we would be playing for free spins on a different slot. Still keep the idea of having the top prize set a little way down from the top, to prevent the all out race, and inevitable victory for me

This is a difficult one! The last thing I want to do is discourage players from taking part (don't go Pina!! ) but also, I agree with Spiderlegz - on the rare occasion when I play slots, I have a stake that I am comfortable with based on the payouts it gives me. I wouldn't get the 'buzz' if I was playing 10p a spin. I also don't want this to divulge peoples' stakes - 'wow, look, Mark_32Red has wagered just 32, he must be skint!' etc, at least the current leaderboard allows players at all stakes to compete without divulging the size of their bankroll.

I think the entire forum knows the size of MY bankroll this month

 

[Tengil]

How about awarding free spins on a slot as prizes, instead of a set bonus chip. The value of the free spins could be set to the value of the bonus chip, and each month we would be playing for free spins on a different slot. Still keep the idea of having the top prize set a little way down from the top, to prevent the all out race, and inevitable victory for me



I think the entire forum knows the size of MY bankroll this month

First it sounded like a great idea but after further toughts the value of the free spins should have to be significantly higher than the chips are now. At least I have never won more than 40% of the value of the free spins. But then again I "never" win anything on normal spins either

And make sure you have something left of your roll at the end of the month.

Edit: so maybe after all its best to keep the old system

 

[vinylweatherman]

First it sounded like a great idea but after further toughts the value of the free spins should have to be significantly higher than the chips are now. At least I have never won more than 40% of the value of the free spins. But then again I "never" win anything on normal spins either

And make sure you have something left of your roll at the end of the month.

Edit: so maybe after all its best to keep the old system

The free spins would have to be boosted by 5% at least, to represent the average payback of the games. There would need to be a reasonable number so that most prize winners will get near the average, maybe 1 credit per spin, so that a 100 credit prize could be 105 spins at 1 credit instead.
There could even be a mix, although perhaps the prize fund is too low to make this interesting enough.

Since the aim was not to make a profit from our play in this event, we can see how the current format works out for a few months, during which suggestions and further discussions can be made here. The second anniversary would provide an opportunity for another major change, but Christmas (December) could be a time to run an enhanced prize event as was done last year.

 

[WonderingSpirit]

One quick question. It might have been written before, but Im to lazy to go through 37 pages of replies..


Whats with the prizes up there. Im on the leaderboard, (Guess it wont last), anyway.. Why does it say prize 100 behind my name today, and 32 yesterday?

Im far from the top and still the prize behind my name is higher than some of the players above me`?

 

[sjn]

The rules have changed so the most spins doesn't necessarily win the biggest prize. That is why the leader has 44k spins where before the scores would be over 100k by now.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Hi Guys,

We're almost at the end of our 12 month anniversary month, and it's extremely close for the fifth position! It's going to be exciting at 23:59!

Following several complaints by PM regarding this structure though, I am thinking it would be best to revert to "most spins wins" for July.

I am looking at some additional options, including "random" prizes and also secret prizes. I'd love to hear any more ideas?

I'll have a think overnight, please note that the leaderboard will show June's prizes until I update it tomorrow morning - please remember the prizes may change.

Thanks
Mark

 

[Jasminebed]

...

I am also in the process of arranging for some additional celebrations, thinking of a slots tournament or poker tournament as suggested (or both!). I welcome any suggestions.

Thanks
Mark

Any progress with a little extra fun for us? I would really enjoy another poker tournament. I need to redeem my poor performance in the last one.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Any progress with a little extra fun for us? I would really enjoy another poker tournament. I need to redeem my poor performance in the last one.

Thanks for reminding me - I'll get something sorted in the next week or so, I promise!

Mark

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Just a quick reminder thanks to Jasmine:

The timezone for the Slotsmeister tournament is UK time, so UTC/GMT +1 hour.

Thanks
Mark

 

[Marie2473]

How often is th leaderboard updated? i mean - is it once a day or more or less frequently?

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Hi Marie,

It updates every 15 mins.

Thanks
Mark

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Hi All,

To answer several PM's in one go - if there is a tie for any position, the prize will be divided - e.g:

4th - 100 Chips
5th - 320 Chips

These two players would receive 210 chips each. (420/2).

Thanks
Mark

 

[kmay87]

I think it's quite disappointing that people have complained about this set up. I could understand it if those who are currently at the top do a number of spins outside of the Slotsmeister and feel like they are being penalised because of it, but moreso considering the credit crunch, being able to win a reasonable prize on only a small outlay has surely got to be more appealing for the vast majority of us, than say the 80k spins it took to guarantee third spot. I'd be interested in knowing the reasons against this system. Although, perhaps in hindsight it may have been wise to create a poll before the changes were implemented.

For me, it made it more exciting and challenging, even though I didn't get hugely involved due to a lack of time. I've just always been of the opinion that, no disrespect intended to Vinyl and sjn, fighting for third place is just pointless. This system made it much more equal and fair than the previous.

I think random prizes would be quite a nice addition. They could be randomly given out so it would be a nice surprise for some of us, although I would prefer say free spins or something related to that rather than an actual prize. Unless of course we are talking serious here

Hi Guys,

We're almost at the end of our 12 month anniversary month, and it's extremely close for the fifth position! It's going to be exciting at 23:59!

Following several complaints by PM regarding this structure though, I am thinking it would be best to revert to "most spins wins" for July.

I am looking at some additional options, including "random" prizes and also secret prizes. I'd love to hear any more ideas?

I'll have a think overnight, please note that the leaderboard will show June's prizes until I update it tomorrow morning - please remember the prizes may change.

Thanks
Mark

 

[Marie2473]

when will this be done? I am not sure I am on the same timeline =)

 

[sjn]

in 1 minute and i think 4 people will be on 22236

at 23:57, the last update before the close it was:-

arfa2002 22236 100
suzy1975 22236 250
purpletin 22235 75
sjn 22235 100

I had 1 spin and i imagine purpletin did as well so i would expect we all finish on 22236.

I have had to avoid playing the slots as much at 32red this month as my score would have been way out of touch from the main prizes. I think a balance would be good, a decent, but smalled than 250 1st prize and then another similar prize elsewhere in the leaderboard that is random and only known to 32red management.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Hi All,

The leaderboard doesnt send the report to me until around 4am, but if you are online and want to know your final points, I am around for the next 15 or 20 mins or so. PM me your account no and let me know if you mind if I share your points

Mark

 

[Marie2473]

Someone just passed me wich is GOOD since it doubled. Now lets just keep my fingers crossed that noone else does =)

 

[kmay87]

Tell us now Mark! I wanna know if my trick worked

 

[Marie2473]

unless the other 2 reckoned youd do that and spinned twice =)

 

[Marie2473]

I also wanna know =)

 

[WonderingSpirit]

The prize money thing is still a mystery to me. Earlier today my prize was at 100 now it has dropped to 32. People way up on the leaderboard has less than people almost at the bottom.

 

[kmay87]

unless the other 2 reckoned youd do that and spinned twice =)

Possibly but the problem did actually exist. I just didn't make it known when it cleared up

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Tell us now Mark! I wanna know if my trick worked

The board will wipe on it's next refresh and I will get the stats in the morning, which will include all spins until midnight.

I can give you an idea of your spin count now, but please remember, due to database refeshes etc, I have to caveat that these will be unofficial - the report tomorrow morning will determine the winners.

Cheers
Mark

 

[Marie2473]

Think that was the point this time, to shake up the prices and make it top price at place 5..

 

[Marie2473]

Well, i will go to bed and hopefully I will win something and have a nice surprise when I get back from the gym tomorrow =)
I never win in tournaments and competitions so this would/could be nice =)
anyways - good night all!

 

[vinylweatherman]

I think it's quite disappointing that people have complained about this set up. I could understand it if those who are currently at the top do a number of spins outside of the Slotsmeister and feel like they are being penalised because of it, but moreso considering the credit crunch, being able to win a reasonable prize on only a small outlay has surely got to be more appealing for the vast majority of us, than say the 80k spins it took to guarantee third spot. I'd be interested in knowing the reasons against this system. Although, perhaps in hindsight it may have been wise to create a poll before the changes were implemented.

For me, it made it more exciting and challenging, even though I didn't get hugely involved due to a lack of time. I've just always been of the opinion that, no disrespect intended to Vinyl and sjn, fighting for third place is just pointless. This system made it much more equal and fair than the previous.

I think random prizes would be quite a nice addition. They could be randomly given out so it would be a nice surprise for some of us, although I would prefer say free spins or something related to that rather than an actual prize. Unless of course we are talking serious here

Not guilty

I could be seen as one of the two most likely suspects to have complained though

I can see a problem unfolding though, with it being easy(ish) to have several players on joint 5th place. It might be better to have a system where the prize goes to either the FIRST or LAST player to hit that number of spins.

Reverting back to the old format brings with it the danger that it will become a two horse race again

I may be less available, or even unavailable, between July ??th and a date 2 weeks or so later - that's the ONLY clue you are getting

 

[sjn]

You dont really need to spend the time chasing these prizes if your recent screenshots are anything to go by VWM. If i knew treasure island as well as you do that would be the only game i played. Certainly a nice earner.

I think the main issue with the revised prize levels is once you are 5th there is no incentive to keep spinning. I have not complained about the change and i must say it is quite exciting to see what the four of us did in the last three minutes.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Hi VWM,

Another problem with the current format is, the final leaderboard was calculated at around 23:55, so there is 5 minutes of gameplay which won't appear until the final leaderboard.

The script which runs the database takes around 15-20 mins to refresh (even longer on the final day) so the leaderboard you see at 23:59:59 could be up to 20 mins old.

It will be interesting to see the results in the morning, I am tempted to set my alarm, lol!

Mark

 

[vinylweatherman]

You dont really need to spend the time chasing these prizes if your recent screenshots are anything to go by VWM. If i knew treasure island as well as you do that would be the only game i played. Certainly a nice earner.

I think the main issue with the revised prize levels is once you are 5th there is no incentive to keep spinning. I have not complained about the change and i must say it is quite exciting to see what the four of us did in the last three minutes.

"Look after the pennies, and the pounds will look after themselves." Older folk would tell us this as kids

Hi VWM,

Another problem with the current format is, the final leaderboard was calculated at around 23:55, so there is 5 minutes of gameplay which won't appear until the final leaderboard.

The script which runs the database takes around 15-20 mins to refresh (even longer on the final day) so the leaderboard you see at 23:59:59 could be up to 20 mins old.

It will be interesting to see the results in the morning, I am tempted to set my alarm, lol!

Mark

This timing issue is probably the biggest problem, since it seems several players have lined themselves up so that they can use just one or two spins to steal 5th place (or share the prize).

The problem with the old format was that it was six of one & half a dozen of the other - could turn out to be a baker's dozen after the June results are in

 

[LinkinFart]

Wondering

My last spin missed though

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Right guys, I have took down the leaderboard for now until the prizes and new rules are put in place tomorrow. I'll get the technical guys onto it as early as possible.

Off to get some beauty sleep - I certainly need it!

Mark

 

[Jasminebed]

Well, however the dust settles, I won a prize and I am happy. I was hoping to be back from the hospital to get a few more spins in today, but it did not work out that way.

If you continue to use a format where the prizes are not just from top to bottom, perhaps there could be a way to implement play outside of the slotmeister? Maybe having to opt in for your spins to count in a session? I don't know how feasible that would be, but would allow players in a high prize spot to play without affecting their position.

What every way you choose the run the Slotmeister if fine by me Mark, as long as it remains slot play only.

 

[Nifty29]

I think its great that 32Red even do any of this for us - fantastic :notworthy

Some other casinos should take note!!

One idea I had was to setup a multiplayer tourney, and everyone receives a free entry with their first deposit of the month. As players reach a certain spin count e.g. 1000, they get a free re-buy...therefore the bigger players will have more chances but the smaller players still have some chance to snag a nice prize. It also removes the need to have a live leaderboard, and nobody knows how many re-buys anyone else has earned. We could have a different game each month! Of course , the ONLY way to earn a rebuy is to spin spin spin!! (i.e. you cant just buy in again with your own $$$)

I guess it might be logistically a bit of work, but it would certainly give everyone a shot

Thanks again Mark

 

[AussieDave]

Not guilty

I could be seen as one of the two most likely suspects to have complained though

Just for the record it wasn't me either...Even though I made it to 1'st place

Reverting back to the old format brings with it the danger that it will become a two horse race again

My interpretation of the SlotMeister Tourney is it's a bit of fun for CM members who play at 32Red. With that said, I don't view the prizes as being a make or break deal. Besides I'm sure the mid to high rollers get looked after anyway so the tourney prizes are just a bit of extra icing on the monthly cake!

But I do like the idea of a mystery prize(s) on certain leader board positions. Something like this makes it a little more interesting

Still I agree with others...Thanks to Mark and 32Red for even holding the SlotMeister Tourney. Not many casinos would do this least of all offer the excellent ongoing prize pool.

Big Kudos to 32Red for pushing the envelope again


Cheers
T

 

[AussieDave]

Off to get some beauty sleep - I certainly need it!

Arhhh this is where you've been hiding


Cheers
T

 

[Marie2473]

now I am officially curious to see if I was lucky enough to win something or not 0)

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Sorry it took so long, the tied places confused the machine slightly :S

Here goes - drumroll please...

Position - Alias - Points - Prize
1 - Trezz - 72233 - 100
2 - paulcr - 35772 - 75
3 - Pinababy69 - 25479 - 50
4 - suzy1975 - 22435 - 100
=5 - sjn - 22236 - 141.67
=5 - purpletin - 22236 - 141.67
=5 - arfa2002 - 22236 - 141.67
8 - Cesar - 19597 - 32
9 - mippsaublue - 18763 - 50
10 - Warnja - 17715 - 100
11 - samarie - 14802 - 50
12 - Zack - 14771 - 32
13 - RUSTYROO - 12385 - 32
14 - sjonnny - 12215 - 50
15 - baabaa006 - 8870 - 100
16 - Slotster! - 8697 - 50
17 - vinylweatherman - 7075 - 32
18 - KaoZ - 6727 - 32
19 - thebizb - 5808 - 50
=20 - retlaw - 5807 - 75
=20 - maaster - 5807 - 75
22 - Jasminebed - 5579 - 32
23 - patrina - 4775 - 32
24 - ternur - 4684 - 50
25 - Marie2473 - 4585 - 100
26 - Balky - 4462 - 50
27 - wonderingspirit - 4346 - 32
28 - andi - 4212 - 32
29 - Shocked - 3943 - 50
30 - LinkinFart - 3941 - 100
31 - KMAY87 - 3932 - 50
32 - klara1968 - 3841 - 32

Payments getting uploaded now, cheers for taking part guys and congrats to all 3, yes 3, Slotsmeisters in the magic 5th place.

Mark

 

[Marie2473]

wohooo. I am really happy since I just played away like I usually do and didnt really think about this much. Deven get confirmed that I was in until yesterday when Mark pointed out that I was on the leaderbord. at that time on 32, played some, ended up on 50 and just last minute last night someone passed me -. pushed me down one spot giving me 100 instead!

Thanks alot for doing things like this. These are the extra stuff that keeps you coming back =) Well done!

 

[Slotster!]

Ha! Brilliant!!!

Can't believe three people managed to snag 5th - fantastic!

This is definitely the best format, I don't care what anybody says... Some serious thought and strategy in some parts, and some nice surprises for the casual spinners.

Cheers Mark, cheers 32!

 

[Warnja]

Thanks Mark

 

[maaster]

thanks 32red

i like the new structure more, requires more strategy and is nice to see that you don't have to spin a gazilion spins to snag 6th place or something

was late up night and tied with retlaw to split 20th place...