32red.com stole 2 and blaims my bank

[Pinababy69]

Not lies.


Pinababy69

Whats strange is that this fee has only been charged twice , but I've deposited several times at 32red.com. They only occured after 32red told me they would contact my their bank to verify my card.

That is strange Zoloth. That's why I thought maybe it was something new your bank had introduced. I'm really at a loss then.

If it weren't for the phone charges, I would tell you to get onto your bank and insist they find and verify what these charges are, and where they initiated from.

 

[casplayer]

That is strange Zoloth. That's why I thought maybe it was something new your bank had introduced. I'm really at a loss then.

If it weren't for the phone charges, I would tell you to get onto your bank and insist they find and verify what these charges are, and where they initiated from.

are you sure these amounts have REALLY been deducted from your credit card balance?

As far as I know there are 2 ways of 'charging' a credit card.

1.) directly deduct the money from the card
2.) inquiry on a certain amount which is reserved on the card (i.e. when you want to pump gas and you first have to put in your Visa, 80$ is reserved to validate that there is actually money on your account. the real amount is later deducted from your balance)

this is also the way some casinos verify that your card details are correct(the ones where you also have to enter the CVV upon card registration)
to validate that your details are entered correctly they 'reserve' a small amount from 1-20$ on your card and will actually not debit it.

this may have happened to you as you told that this happened when you were asked for card details...so has the money actually been deducted, or just been 'requested' and may be released in the next billing period?

 

[henryVIII]

I would almost guarantee that 32Red is NOT responsible for this charge.
I agree t_b, I think the thread title is a bit out there. I understand the OP wants an answer, but they stole $2? It's almost comical.

Hmmm ...

... again pinababy is incredulous about a complaint against 32red.

See

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/32-red-very-disappointed.15736/

for pretty much the same.

Yawn.

 

[winbig]

Hmmm ...

... again pinababy is incredulous about a complaint against 32red.

See

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/32-red-very-disappointed.15736/

for pretty much the same.

Yawn.

Enough of this bullshit. Quit it already. If you want to fight with someone, do it in private. Quit turning the forum into your boxing ring.

 

[Pinababy69]

are you sure these amounts have REALLY been deducted from your credit card balance?

As far as I know there are 2 ways of 'charging' a credit card.

1.) directly deduct the money from the card
2.) inquiry on a certain amount which is reserved on the card (i.e. when you want to pump gas and you first have to put in your Visa, 80$ is reserved to validate that there is actually money on your account. the real amount is later deducted from your balance)

this is also the way some casinos verify that your card details are correct(the ones where you also have to enter the CVV upon card registration)
to validate that your details are entered correctly they 'reserve' a small amount from 1-20$ on your card and will actually not debit it.

this may have happened to you as you told that this happened when you were asked for card details...so has the money actually been deducted, or just been 'requested' and may be released in the next billing period?

Never thought of that casplayer, it's a possibility. In my case (see my CC statement above), my charges are definitely deducted, at the time of deposit. And they are CC charges, not originating from the casino(s). Zoloth, could they be a verification charge as casplayer suggested?

 

[vinylweatherman]

Cards

I have used cards in the past at 32Red, which included having to enter the CCV number. At no time was a certain amount "reserved", neither is this necessary where the transaction is authorised on the spot by eBanking websites, as the transaction itself will be validation enough - if there is no money on the card, the Microgaming cashier will reject the transaction and ask you to contact support. I have had a couple of card transactions suffer this, and it has been the case that when the card company declines the transaction, or the card has insufficient funds, the casino will not process the deposit.
This charge must originate from the banks, and it MAY be that when they were contacted to verify the card, they realised that all along 32Red was a casino! - They may have thought it to be some kind of internet retail store with a trendy name
32Red is among the few that do not have the word "casino", in it's name, nor even any reference to gambling, such as "something" CLUB - or "vegas" whatever. It would take someone familiar with Roulette to suspect 32Red might be a casino, the other one, called "Dash" would also slip under the radar if it billed accounts as simply "Dash" rather than "Dash Casino".

 

[Pinababy69]

VWM, it gets billed on my statement (see post on page 3) as Trafalgar Betting. Is it billed differently in Europe/the UK? Just curious.

 

[henryVIII]

Just incredulous.

Just ammended your post to be more truthful.

 

[casplayer]

I have used cards in the past at 32Red, which included having to enter the CCV number. At no time was a certain amount "reserved", neither is this necessary where the transaction is authorised on the spot by eBanking websites, as the transaction itself will be validation enough - if there is no money on the card, the Microgaming cashier will reject the transaction and ask you to contact support.

I think you got me wrong.
The amount is not 'reserved' when you actually make a deposit, instead this meassure is used by some casinos when you REGISTER your card details (to verify the card actually exists, i.e. to prevent the unlikely case that you mistyped AND the card checksum is valid)

 

[zoloth]

Zoloth, could they be a verification charge as casplayer suggested?

That is possible but then I would think that 32red would have told me of this instead of blaming my bank for almost a month.

 

[Pinababy69]

Well, if you ever get a definitive answer to this, could you come back and post? If charges start popping up on your card when you deposit at other casinos with it, then I'd say you'll know for sure your bank is feeding you a line. If it never happens again, I really don't know what to think.

Have you ever used this particular card at any other casino? Again, just curiousity.

 

[casplayer]

That is possible but then I would think that 32red would have told me of this instead of blaming my bank for almost a month.

perhaps they did not take this into consideration as it has never happened before..

 

[henryVIII]

Again, just cannot believe one of my affiliated casinos is wrong. It must be your bank.

Just clarified your post for non-affiliate readers.

You havent told anyone they are "a moron", "what the fuck is your problem", "this is the worst post ever" or "go fuck yourself", etc etc yet.

That is pinanbabys usual response to any criticism of any of her affiliates.

Banks are so untrustworthy ... if only they had the legal safeguards all your affiliated casinos have, eh?

Bloody banks ... they should be as tightly regulated as 32red and the rest of pinababy's affiliated casinos are.

 

[vickie40]

Just clarified your post for non-affiliate readers.

You havent told anyone they are "a moron", "what the fuck is your problem", "this is the worst post ever" or "go fuck yourself", etc etc yet.

That is pinanbabys usual response to any criticism of any of her affiliates.

Banks are so untrustworthy ... if only they had the legal safeguards all your affiliated casinos have, eh?

Bloody banks ... they should be as tightly regulated as 32red and the rest of pinababy's affiliated casinos are.

HenryVIII,
You really need to lose the attitude..There are plenty of people who come here for information and your comments are nothing but rude.

 

[henryVIII]

HenryVIII,
You really need to lose the attitude..There are plenty of people who come here for information and your comments are nothing but rude.

Hmmm ...

... lets get this straight ..

... you think "go fuck yourself" is not rude

.. but factually accurate comments are rude ...

hmm..

you want information ...

... but you prefer affiliates to give it to you??

Anyone else smell bullshit here??? I thought so.

But, yes, please, elaborate on your comments... bet you cant ... just like pinababy couldnt

Heres the links :

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...g-is-not-quite-right.13568/?highlight=harbour

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/32-red-very-disappointed.15736/

Now, dont you look silly????

There is a reason pinababy goes quiet ... and its not because she is a "fun loving gal" believe me ..

Unless you think "going fucking yourself" is your definition of a fun loving gal.

Sounds too close to masturbation for my money .... but she posts the stuff ... I can only highlight the stupidity ot it ... but, hey, if you live in a town where pinababy is your definition of "a fun lovin' gal" ...

... then MOVE MOVE MOVE

... save yourselves boys

 

[tennis_balls]

lol.....looks like :icon_evil Angry Hank :icon_evil is hitting the sauce again tonight.

cheers Hank

 

[winbig]

There is a reason pinababy goes quiet ... and its not because she is a "fun loving gal" believe me ..

Or maybe she's just being grownup now and ignoring you?

 

[vinylweatherman]

Affiliates

I have spent nearly an hour looking for Pinababys affiliate website. Could someone tell me where it is please?

I seem unable to find the quote from Pinababy referenced by HenryVIII in an earlier post

"Originally Posted by Pinababy69
Again, just cannot believe one of my affiliated casinos is wrong. It must be your bank."

I would like to read this in context of the material under discussion, the second charges of 2x1 that appeared alongside, and seem related to, deposits recently made to 32Red casino.

I have often had this problem with Neteller, with Neteller blaming the casino, and the casino blaming Neteller. The truth was a long time coming, but in the end turned out to be a bit of both, as well as poor communications within the respective organisations.

If there is an online statement facility, it may be possible to interrogate more deeply the statement information for Merchant and country codes relating to these charges. These do not appear on paper statements, but the codes should show from what point in the chain the charge originated.
If these really are phantom charges for verification purposes, then they should clear by Friday.

Incidentally, I have noticed something similar very recently on my Barclaycard, and it seems related to the new VISA verification scheme. I found a small charge of around 1 in "pending" after a purchase at Maplins online website, and again after a deposit at Casino Action. These charges just vanished, they never made it onto the statement. These appear to be something new, and this could well turn out to be related to the current heatedly debated issue. If this is the case, it is the BANK that is wrong, or more strictly, VISA INTERNATIONAL, perhaps failing to tell banks that customers might see these charges and think them bogus.

IF this turns out to be correct, then Pinababy deserves an apology from HenryVIII. Equally, if 32Red are found to have lied (and made the charges), Pinababy will apologise for being offended by HenryVIII rude and personal attacks, although Henry will still have to apologise to the forum if it is found that some of the quotes have been doctored for dramatic effect.

If I recall, the original HenryVIII beheaded one of his wives for being too ugly and unable to bear a son - yet who would not grant a divorce.

 

[Pinababy69]

I have spent nearly an hour looking for Pinababys affiliate website. Could someone tell me where it is please?

I seem unable to find the quote from Pinababy referenced by HenryVIII in an earlier post

"Originally Posted by Pinababy69
Again, just cannot believe one of my affiliated casinos is wrong. It must be your bank."

although Henry will still have to apologise to the forum if it is found that some of the quotes have been doctored for dramatic effect.

There is no website VWM, not for a long time now. There are no affiliate payments anymore (the last one was a whopping $50, and that was months ago). And each and every one of the "quotes" that Henry posted as being posted by me, were indeed doctored. And I haven't been an affiliate of 32Red for 8-10 months.

And Winbig, you're right.

 

[tennis_balls]

I have spent nearly an hour looking for Pinababys affiliate website. Could someone tell me where it is please

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[henryVIII]

There is no website VWM, not for a long time now. There are no affiliate payments anymore (the last one was a whopping $50, and that was months ago). And each and every one of the "quotes" that Henry posted as being posted by me, were indeed doctored. And I haven't been an affiliate of 32Red for 8-10 months.

And Winbig, you're right.

Incorrect.

The only "doctored" quotes were CLEARLY labelled as such. Only a complete "moron" could misundestand that. As a clue I even stated each time that I had "doctored" them.

BIG CLUE HERE :

"Just ammended your post ..."

"Just clarified your post ..."

BIG CLUE NUMBER TWO :

The above comments are clearly stating I have "ammended" the posts for effect

BIG CLUE NUMBER THREE :

Its freaking obvious !!!!

BIG CLUE NUMBER FOUR :

Nothing to do with the post, but dont stick your fingers in eletricity sockets (sorry ... they may not have huge big signs saying this on them)

Doctored them??? Heck ... read these in there pure form ..

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...-is-cheating.12185/?highlight=english+harbour

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/32-red-very-disappointed.15736/

But, sure, the usual "elite poster" happy-clappys are limping in now ... avoiding the facts but getting personal.

Heck, even tennis balls is trying to articulate something or other now. Didnt read all his post but this is the man who recommends playing slots after all!!

lol ... that the calibre of the "elite posters".

 

[winbig]

But, sure, the usual "elite poster" happy-clappys are limping in now ... avoiding the facts but getting personal.

Heck, even tennis balls is trying to articulate something or other now. Didnt read all his post but this is the man who recommends playing slots after all!!

lol ... that the calibre of the "elite posters".

I don't think anybody but you and Pina (only you now) are concerned about this subject at all, let alone the facts. It got old a long time ago, and only got brought up again with you replying to a month old post.

 

[henryVIII]

I have spent nearly an hour looking for Pinababys affiliate website. Could someone tell me where it is please?

I seem unable to find the quote from Pinababy referenced by HenryVIII in an earlier post

"Originally Posted by Pinababy69
Again, just cannot believe one of my affiliated casinos is wrong. It must be your bank."

Are you able to cross the road alone or do you need an adult at all times?

 

[henryVIII]

I don't think anybody but you and Pina (only you now) are concerned about this subject at all, let alone the facts. It got old a long time ago, and only got brought up again with you replying to a month old post.

INCORRECT

Once again ... look at the post preceeding mine ... now look at the top of it ... see a number and a word??

That is called a date? its a number and a word .. so 14 and january means ... well, 14 January ...

so, go have a look ...

... if you are still confused ask one of the elite posters to help you understand what is going on ..

... there again maybe dont .. ask someone independent

Thanks again for the thanks for the support I am getting from non "elite posters"

"Only they believe that anyone actually gives a toss what they think" is very true.

 

[winbig]

Whatever dude. The quote you put in your message was from a MONTH PRIOR. Get over it.


vvvvv I suggest to whoever is tired of hearing his shit to do the same. I'll even save you a few clicks: Link Outdated / Removed