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32 red the wrost casino in the world....

@bisbis:

What betsizes do you use? What games? Haven't you even once had over your deposit amount?

I don't see 32RED any more tight than other Microgaming casinos.

There are a few things that matters when it comes to be able to make a withdrawal or not.

* Be able to hit the withdrawal button when you are ahead

* Too high betsize

* What games you use

It's not fair to call 32RED the "wrost casino in the world". Because they are not. I can easily give you the name on over 100 worse online casinos..:D
 
@bisbis:

What betsizes do you use? What games? Haven't you even once had over your deposit amount?

I don't see 32RED any more tight than other Microgaming casinos.

There are a few things that matters when it comes to be able to make a withdrawal or not.

* Be able to hit the withdrawal button when you are ahead

* Too high betsize

* What games you use

It's not fair to call 32RED the "wrost casino in the world". Because they are not. I can easily give you the name on over 100 worse online casinos..:D

i play only slot: tally oh, ladies night, loaded, avalon, tomb raider and more. If i am lucky i won at all slot what i want to play and videopoker but if there is a unlucky day....:o
 
I am not happy with my recent communication with 32 red firstly i misread the September bonus and deposited £20 and as it was a minimum £32 i didnt get my 100% (yes my own fault) but I went to live help and asked if there were any other bonuses on offer - there were none. Yesterday Go Wild were throeing free spins and deposit bonuses at me. Also I asked about "flushing" and was told reverse withdraw cannot be removed and I have to ask everytime i want to speed up a withdraw.

Now why are 32red not prepared to offer any bonuses like their competitors,

Very disappointed with the praise this site gets on here I would have thought they would offer something.

One bonus a month is not a good incentive to stay there.
 
I am not happy with my recent communication with 32 red firstly i misread the September bonus and deposited £20 and as it was a minimum £32 i didnt get my 100% (yes my own fault) but I went to live help and asked if there were any other bonuses on offer - there were none. Yesterday Go Wild were throeing free spins and deposit bonuses at me. Also I asked about "flushing" and was told reverse withdraw cannot be removed and I have to ask everytime i want to speed up a withdraw.

Now why are 32red not prepared to offer any bonuses like their competitors,

Very disappointed with the praise this site gets on here I would have thought they would offer something.

One bonus a month is not a good incentive to stay there.


32Reds 100% monthly bonus has always been 32 chips, They do offer more deposit bonuses after you have taken the monthly, you just have to ask live chat, but in saying that you do usually have to deposit $50 or more and you get a 50% match.

I do agree that they don't offer anywhere near the bonuses other casinos do offer or even have a variety of bonuses. But at least they don't have any silly restricted games or max cashouts and you never hear of winnings being confiscated.

I had a great run at 32 red a few weeks ago (by good run I mean some nice hits,and some play time, not withdrawals but thats my own fault) my last 6 or so deposits (with bonuses, I say this because usually I don't take bonuses and wanted more playtime) have not lasted me very long at all. But that is gambling.

Just to edit: My good run was on the mobile casino, which is most likely run from a different server :) I hit 4 wilds twice on Thunderstruck but on the download or flash casino I'am lucky to see 3. think I might have to give it another go.

Cheers Matt
 
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32Red is one of my favourite and is not worst, but i had the same run of bad luck like you from May.Many deposit and none withdrawal, it seems that player from Italy was banned to win something.:mad:
They advertise on daily payout on the site, but we can trust it? I'm not.
If many people complain that from some months tha payout percentage was under the limits, i think that a representative of 32Red may clarified wath's happen.:what:
 
I haven't played at 32 RED for a very long time now. Had a similar run of bad luck .... maybe even longer...so I just hit the uninstall button.

Shame though - as i do love the fact that if I ever did manage win enough to withdraw, I know it would be in my hands 6 hours later....... I miss that :(
 
Yup worst casino because I thought I could get the picture of a win from Playcheck history, instead I can only see total win in free spins.

It was 5 foxes in free spins, if anyone is interested, and I waited for a worthy win today to post in this thread.
Compared to others on the market and previously mentioned GoWild, 32red is what they claim to be. At GoWild I got caught by that "wagering requirements not reset" bug in software, which I never encountered elsewhere, and guess what I got offered for compensation, hold your breath, loyalty points worth $10, it is few bucks less than what I had when playthrough was done. Of course had to wager $10 again, and that kind of treatment 2 days after I received personal VIP manager, dont know if that is just a marketing trick or real thing either becaue you never know with them where you stand. Anyway, look down and tell me how bad 32red is. I had bad runs too, mostly because I was betting bigger than I should or playing stubborn, Isis mostly :D.
 
I'm surprised that someone would call a casino the worst in the world based on a bad run, especially 32Red.

When you play slots, you are paying for the entertainment and thrill of the game and if you get lucky it's a nice bonus. That's why it's called gambling. From now on, if your not willing to lose the money, don't deposit thinking your going to ever see it again.

Ofcourse, if you don't play you cannot win and there are some impressive jackpots waiting to be hit out there. Just recently someone won over 4 million on Mega Moolah! :) I wish you better luck in the future though and I do sympathize with your bad run.
 
I can add a story to this thread: I requested a cashout this morning. At 10am I asked if it could be wired instead of Neteller. By Noon, it was sitting in my UK bank account!!

That is outstanding Muppet Man!! Sorta makes you wonder why ALL casinos can't do that, doesn't it? Well, fact is...they can. Comes down to the processors more than likely, and the fact that they don't delay in any way when it comes to cashouts. They understand the simplicity of "the sooner you get your money, the more likely you are to play again".

Next time I see a casino rep replying to someone who has been waiting weeks for a wire transfer (non US)...I'm going to point them to your post. :laugh:
 
Next time I see a casino rep replying to someone who has been waiting weeks for a wire transfer (non US)...I'm going to point them to your post. :laugh:

LOL. Thats right - blame it on me :p

CHAPS. Thats the key word. But it costs the casino to make a CHAPS transfer and it depends on which bank they use for their account. I *think* it is a UK-specific system so may depend on the casino having a UK bank account and also of course, that the costs aren't prohibitive. But that said, most players would probably pay those costs if the casino agreed to the request. I would.

Edit: Here ya go: Old / Expired Link
 
32Red probably have thousands of players a day, the fact that 3 or 4 from this forum lose is insignificant to their payout percentage. They're licensed by Gib, believe me, their affairs will be completely in order otherwise they would be out of business!
 
Well 32red is one the "few" casinos I totally trust. Never had a payout take more than 24 hours and if I hit the cashout button at the right time its down to a few hours. Sure % can suck somtimes it happens. Not nice. 32red seem to have this biz model down to the last inch. 24/7 support / Fast cashouts and very very few player complaints that do not get fully sorted. None in fact that I know of.
 
32Red probably have thousands of players a day, the fact that 3 or 4 from this forum lose is insignificant to their payout percentage. They're licensed by Gib, believe me, their affairs will be completely in order otherwise they would be out of business!

When you're talking about losing the fact that it's 32Red is irrelevant. If you want to discuss the speed of payouts, the casino bonuses, the friendliness of the staff or anything else related to service then you need to discuss each casino on it's own. If you want to talk about losing you might as well say Microgaming in general because all these games pay the same and that's very little.

I started online gambling with Microgaming. I've been playing for a few years now and it seems like every year I'm able to win less and less. Bonus features rarely seem to come and when they do they usually don't cover what it cost to hit them. I change casinos, roaming around and after 3, 6, 9 sessions the casinos always come back and say "You have a 78%, 80%, 84% payout percentage which we agree is a little low...." Why do I have a payout percentage that's "A little low" no matter which MG casino I play at or how many sessions I play? I really don't think there's anything wrong with 32Red. I'm sure they're about as fair and trustworthy as any online casino and probably more so than most. But gambling with the software they provide seems to have become an exercise in futility.
 
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When you're talking about losing the fact that it's 32Red is irrelevant. If you want to discuss the speed of payouts, the casino bonuses, the friendliness of the staff or anything else related to service then you need to discuss each casino on it's own. If you want to talk about losing you might as well say Microgaming in general because all these games pay the same and that's very little.

I started online gambling with Microgaming. I've been playing for a few years now and it seems like every year I'm able to win less and less. Bonus features rarely seem to come and when they do they usually don't cover what it cost to hit them. I change casinos, roaming around and after 3, 6, 9 sessions the casinos always come back and say "You have a 78%, 80%, 84% payout percentage which we agree is a little low...." Why do I have a payout percentage that's "A little low" no matter which MG casino I play at or how many sessions I play? I really don't think there's anything wrong with 32Red. I'm sure they're about as fair and trustworthy as any online casino and probably more so than most. But gambling with the software they provide seems to have become an exercise in futility.

i begin to play at 4 years ago
i cashed out at vegas software, rival and rtg

in microgaming and in playtech casinos i have never won nothing
so i think its fault of the software not of the casino
 
To be honest I think all softwares in general are harder to hit on these days. In my opinion 32 Red is one of the best (if not the best in terms of service) online casino out there. CS is fantastic, payouts fast, and in general a nice tight run ship.
 
i begin to play at 4 years ago
i cashed out at vegas software, rival and rtg

in microgaming and in playtech casinos i have never won nothing
so i think its fault of the software not of the casino

imo thats just personal experience or call it badluck. only because smb looses he cant blame the software for this ( certified/tested software)

best thing to do in this situation is switching the casino or software. if you only loose dont play there anymore, why should you :confused:

as you discribed your 4 year experience for me its the total opposite. as i started gambling online some years ago my first worthy cashouts were on playtech software and microgaming, you see what i mean ;)


for 32red i can say i trust them 100% and still deposit there allthough! i won more on other microgaming casinos than in 32red i always feel safe palying there no matter win or loose, but if i you win there you wont have to worry about a anything at all. for example their livechat is one of the most competent ones i experinced sofar.they dont talk to you in copy/paste sentences which they have on list like some casino supports do imo. if i had any issue with bonusses or cashouts all was understood and handled professional and fast! thats like things should if money is involved imo, as good service and trust isnt the norm in online gaming so far, 32red deserves to be on top!



cheers

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It entirely depends on how the software is configured and how the RNG works. Some RNG's base your payout solely on your own activity (Inter/Crypto I think do this) and then others base it on the Casino as a whole. These are the ones to play at since they have no recollection of your past activity.

If you find it harder to hit on MG that may be because more people are playing, thus the RNG is more accurate. No wild swings because there is a steady number of hands/spins being played.

To claim a company as big as Microgaming are fixing their games or getting tighter is absurd, they earn millions in revenue every year and would never jeopardise that to make an extra 1-2%, they earn more money by improving their product and getting more licensees.

Simple fact is, it's just bad luck.
 
Ok, here is my perspective for what it is worth, based on my experience working for an MGS Operator for five years ( Ladbrokes in Gibraltar - where I was IT Manager by the time I left ), a full time affiliate webmaster for the past five years and most importantly a player for the last ten years.

I can confirm not that it really needs confirming that all MGS casinos whether it be 32Red, Ladbrokes, All Slots, Spin Palace, Roxy, Gaming Club etc are all completely random. The individual MGS operators do not have the ability or facility to change the pay out percentage.

Indeed when I was at Ladbrokes, back in 2004 we flew to Dell's EMEA base in Ireland. For the purpose of testing a DR Solution for the Ladbrokes Casino Servers. The reason we performed the testing onsite at Dell, was primarily because as at the time the hardware Ladbrokes used for the casino and poker sites, was Dell Hardware. We did not have the space or capacity to replicate an offsite DR facility, so we obviously used Dell, who provide this service for their business customers.

A tech from MGS flew out to Ireland to set up the servers with the casino software. MGS are extremely protective of their software, and operators only have the ability to access certain areas. With the player databases and financial information in full control of the operator and MGS have no access to this.

To test the DR setup, the guy from MGS uploaded a script to mimic 1000 players continously playing blackjack on the casino. The purpose of which, we needed to see how the offsite replication worked during a failure.

Anyhow this is going off on a tangent somewhat. My point being. Having seen these 1000 bot accounts playing continously for a week, each loaded with 1million credits. I can confirm that overall the amount lost across all accounts was in line with the percentage payout for that particular game ( Blackjack ).

So software wise there is nothing iffy at all about it.

Now as a player, I must admit I haven't had any great run at 32Red, but that is also the same at several other online casinos. But they are a quality outfit and pay very quickly. Several members of the forum have won big at 32Red and they have never experienced any issues cashing out. There are also not many casinos where the actual directors can and do communicate with their players, regardless of player value.

In September last year I had a particulary bad run at 32Red, which caused me to self exclude. This was dealt with extremely promptly by Pat Harrison. ( As a side note, I also self exclude sometimes when I do well at a casino )

Unlike another MGS Casino which will at this point remain nameless, I subsequently ceased to receive any promotional emails or any communications from them concerning the player activities on their network of casinos.

The other MGS casino on the otherhand, is still sending me promo mails, one of which I received this morning. Even after I closed my account there.

Going back to the self exclusion at 32Red. A couple of months ago I requested it to be removed after I served the mandatory 6 month period. 32Red wrote back and asked me to think about it for 24hrs and then contact them again. Now this is what a responsible operator should do. It is a shame other casinos are not as supportive of responsible gambling as 32Red clearly are. As it happens, my account was reopened yesterday with a deposit limit of £10 a week. A deposit limit is something they insist on putting in place if you have self excluded in the past.

Why is this relevant? Well I think it needs to be detailed, that all aspects of 32Red are fair and furthermore they are a strong supporter of responsible gambling.

Now from an affiliate perspective. I also see that players my sites have referred win regularly and in some cases win big.

In closing, if you are on a bad run at any casino, by all means play elsewhere if that makes you feel happier. But to suggest that a particular casino is bad, because of a bad run you have experienced is a disservice to said casino. Especially as 32Red is up there with the likes of Ladbrokes and other stellar operations in terms of having a well earned quality reputation amongst players.
 

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