White Rabbit - what a crock!

[Jono777]

Why do I always see the same streamers when I look for big wins of new slots on Youtube...
I see Kim smashed the slot again...Yeah right... :lolsign:
This dude just has to open a new slot and the huge wins roll in...100% bullcrap.

Isn't it just

Trouble is we call em out and its us who are told blah, blah, blah

 

[slot_zombie]

I don't think the UKGC realise exactly what they've licensed

They are more interested in ensuring that slots featuring characters that could appeal to children don't proliferate...

... oh wait

 

[Jd666]

105000 ways to win....... 1.5 bet

Why should the RTP for a natural drop in bonus be lower than the bought one?
Its not much difference but shouldnt be any at all.

Its funny how the streamers are allowed to buy the bonus while playing with a bonus, us humble normal players cant even buy the £10 bonus unless its a bonus not tied in or we break the fiver max bet rule.

The buy in bonus should be taken off and I mean for every country and not just the UK.
I am surprised as well that the UKGC have passed this with their keenness on responsible gambling.
This slot was purely made for showcasing to get people hooked and can see some people getting out of thier depth on it after watching the streamers.
Luckily I wont be one of those, Tried 4 or 5 buy it ones but only on a tenner and did make a nice little profit out of it, but its not tempted me to go higher, have played it normally since.

 

[brianmon]

Its funny how the streamers are allowed to buy the bonus while playing with a bonus, us humble normal players cant even buy the £10 bonus unless its a bonus not tied in or we break the fiver max bet rule.

A lot of them use fake money anyway. So it doesn't matter one way or the other

But It does make it easier for the casinos to stitch-up the newbies who sign-up while watching the streamers do it.

 

[ReggieMac]

Its funny how the streamers are allowed to buy the bonus while playing with a bonus, us humble normal players cant even buy the £10 bonus unless its a bonus not tied in or we break the fiver max bet rule.

This is a very interesting point! Is this likely to be a great excuse for not paying out huge wins if a player bought the bonus round whilst playing with bonus money as it would undoubtedly exceed the maximum wager allowed as it would certainly be classed as a single bet? If this is the case would it not be a sort of entrapment by just allowing the option to be available whilst playing with a bonus?

 

[Pulver]

Out of the streamers, I have only watched Letsgiveitaspin play it, and he never buys the feature if he would dip into the bonus balance at LeoVegas.

I don't get all the hate towards this slot machine. The RTP is one of the best out there, with a 97.72% RTP if you buy the feature. If you buy it at £10 a pop, you will only lose 23p per feature on average. The variance is of course very high, so you will see big swings. But if you compare it with other slots, this slot is a very good bet. It has a 50% lower house edge than a slot with a 95% RTP, in the long run, that is quite substantial.

Regarding this game being reckless, how is this game any more reckless than let's say roulette? Depending on the table, you can bet anything from a min bet of £1 up to £10 000 (or even higher). Players can lose their entire bankroll in one spin on those tables. White Rabbit has a better house edge than roulette as well.

If you adapt your betsize in accordance with the size of your bankroll, my experience is that you will get a good amount of playtime out of this slot. If you use your entire bankroll to buy one feature, it is like placing all your bankroll on a single number on roulette, it can go south really fast.

 

[jasonuk]

Why should the RTP for a natural drop in bonus be lower than the bought one?
Its not much difference but shouldnt be any at all.

I would be very surprised if the bonus itself was different - you are paying (slightly) more when you don't buy it for full price. The tweak in RTP is suggesting you can buy it for 100 units, or earn it (roll-in or zero cost) for 100.33 units.

Its funny how the streamers are allowed to buy the bonus while playing with a bonus, us humble normal players cant even buy the £10 bonus unless its a bonus not tied in or we break the fiver max bet rule.

I am surprised as well that the UKGC have passed this with their keenness on responsible gambling.

It isn't the first slot that allows you to buy a bonus and it does give you a warning first (compared to the "max bet" trap that some operators still use). I think it says more about the streamers personally - while the honest ones will take the time to explain what it is and what it ultimately means (higher variance, the casino earning their cut quicker and so on), the unscrupulous ones (who would be doing it with play money or non-deposit bonus funds anyway) will take advantage of it because they can find the "big wins" (to pump out on all the social media channels) faster... and conveniently forget the part where they are thousands down.

I would hope that the regulators clamp down on the operators that offer "special bonuses" that encourage completely reckless play - when a streamer has an unlimited supply of 100% deposit matches where they can gamble the whole lot on red/black on live casino (or features like these), that's hardly encouraging responsible gaming! I suspect I may be waiting a while for that...

 

[greylady]

I bought three bonus rounds at the weekend, all rubbish, average win was 28%

I hit a bonus round today on Videoslots and it payed crap as well, 55%

I get bored with it as the base game is as exciting as watching paint dry

 

[interlog]

Which streamer can do £100 bonuses whilst under wagering?

I am a streamer and do get deposit match bonuses but still am under the same rules as an ordinary player getting the same bonus.

So even at minimum bet, I wouldn't even be able to do a £10 bonus buy. I will have to wait till the bonus buy drops below £5 whilst I am wagering.

And yeah streaming gives you lots of riches - I am retired from work and stream 24 / 7 - big win, after big win. The money is literally rolling in

 

[Jd666]

Which streamer can do £100 bonuses whilst under wagering?

I am a streamer and do get deposit match bonuses but still am under the same rules as an ordinary player getting the same bonus.

So even at minimum bet, I wouldn't even be able to do a £10 bonus buy. I will have to wait till the bonus buy drops below £5 whilst I am wagering.

And yeah streaming gives you lots of riches - I am retired from work and stream 24 / 7 - big win, after big win. The money is literally rolling in

Sorry Mark.
I didnt mean to generalise all streamers the same and looking back on my post, it looks like I have done that.
Too late to edit it.
You know I do like to view the odd stream including you and a couple of others

 

[interlog]

Sorry Mark.
I didnt mean to generalise all streamers the same and looking back on my post, it looks like I have done that.
Too late to edit it.
You know I do like to view the odd stream including you and a couple of others

No worries - no offence taken.

You do get used to the criticism when you're a streamer.

Catch you hopefully during my next stream

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

105000 ways to win....... 1.5 bet

Why should the RTP for a natural drop in bonus be lower than the bought one?
Its not much difference but shouldnt be any at all.

Its funny how the streamers are allowed to buy the bonus while playing with a bonus, us humble normal players cant even buy the £10 bonus unless its a bonus not tied in or we break the fiver max bet rule.

The buy in bonus should be taken off and I mean for every country and not just the UK.
I am surprised as well that the UKGC have passed this with their keenness on responsible gambling.
This slot was purely made for showcasing to get people hooked and can see some people getting out of thier depth on it after watching the streamers.
Luckily I wont be one of those, Tried 4 or 5 buy it ones but only on a tenner and did make a nice little profit out of it, but its not tempted me to go higher, have played it normally since.

Its not because Kim is special because he is a streamer, reason is the massive big amounts he puts in.

If you ever manage to reach a high level at LeoVegas, then I can tell you that they will let you bet a higher amount, if they know you as a player as long you ask beforehand. And this is what Kim has also said many times in his streams.

Its not like they allow him to do this every single stream or session.

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

more reckless crap from this company.

They purposely made the base game so bad that it entices people to just buy the bonus.

I watched some streamers buying it for $100 and saying "I never thought Id ever spend this much money on a single spin.

Quite surprised this game got licensed.

I fully agree with you here mate. But then again you have to think about max bet on other slots. So many has like £500 max bet or higher which for me is outrageous. Uk licensed casinos this should not even be possible. Maximum bets should be like £10 if we are talking responsible gaming. And only higher if its a registered high roller.

I don't think this slot is compared to so much else really. So many other slots makes you want to chase or has those build up feature or bonuses.

 

[BrianGhattas]

I have no issues with streamers. I'm somebody who isn't fooled by what I see and many others here aren't, either.

What I don't like is seeing people promote irresponsible gambling on YouTube. Many Americans do so and I am suspicious of them. Most high rollers play blackjack, poker or even roulette to gain their riches, not slots. I would like to know where people such as AKIFUJI SLOTS, DianaEvoni, KURI SLOTS, sdguy1234 or TheBigPayback are getting all this money from to throw it all into high limit slots.

 

[Dinahnana]

I have no issues with streamers. I'm somebody who isn't fooled by what I see and many others here aren't, either.

What I don't like is seeing people promote irresponsible gambling on YouTube. Many Americans do so and I am suspicious of them. Most high rollers play blackjack, poker or even roulette to gain their riches, not slots. I would like to know where people such as AKIFUJI SLOTS, DianaEvoni, KURI SLOTS, sdguy1234 or TheBigPayback are getting all this money from to throw it all into high limit slots.

I think both Diana Evoni and SDguy1234 have fairly good jobs. The Big Paycheck is more than one guy I think they have a website dedicated to B&M casinos. Kuri Slots doesn't always high roll well she used not before at any rate. Also when Diana high rolls she usually does it as part of a group. There is no tinkering going on there as they record live play at a casino and both Diana and SD Guy have both stated many times in the past that they lose more than they win overall.

 

[BrianGhattas]

I think both Diana Evoni and SDguy1234 have fairly good jobs. The Big Paycheck is more than one guy I think they have a website dedicated to B&M casinos. Kuri Slots doesn't always high roll well she used not before at any rate. Also when Diana high rolls she usually does it as part of a group. There is no tinkering going on there as they record live play at a casino and both Diana and SD Guy have both stated many times in the past that they lose more than they win overall.

sdguy1234 has some sort of job in Hollywood. He's good friends with the cast of Entourage. He claims to run an amusement shop in South Dakota but that's just a front. He once took a shot at me on a video for calling him by his real first name.
.

 

[lockinlove]

I fully agree with you here mate. But then again you have to think about max bet on other slots. So many has like £500 max bet or higher which for me is outrageous. Uk licensed casinos this should not even be possible. Maximum bets should be like £10 if we are talking responsible gaming. And only higher if its a registered high roller.

I don't think this slot is compared to so much else really. So many other slots makes you want to chase or has those build up feature or bonuses.

yeah but no other slots have a feature where you click a button and buy a bonus for $1000

Also saw the roulette camparison, which I think is really off. First off roulette doesnt offer potential of 20,000x, placing a $1000 bet on red or black gives you almost 50% chance to double your money. If you are betting on numbers your money is spread out on numbers as I highly doubt many slot gamblers will go and place $1000 on one number. If the inclination is to suggest you can lose the same amount of money the same way, thats wrong. Its less exciting to a slots player by far with much less reward and risk.

 

[DreamRJ]

yeah but no other slots have a feature where you click a button and buy a bonus for $1000

Actually your wrong.

There is a few slots in land based casinos in las vegas where you can buy features. I do not remember the name, but it isn't a new thing either. It has been around for years.

I suspect this to be the start of even more slots having this *buy feature button*

Don't forget there is that wonder women slot where you can buy a feature on too. And all the SG slots where u have the big bet buttons.

So I can honestly say this white rabbit slot is not the first and wont be the last.

EDIT: And to note. my experiences of white rabbit too are very poor as well. I have bought about 10 features now. All of them at £20. A few of them was when i managed to get the amount down to about £10.

my best win so far was only 124X bet on one of them. And I concur the base game is total crap. the blow smoke feature is a waste of time. No need for it to be fair. Also I was able to trigger some features in the base game as well. I would say it is a little easier to trigger feature in base game than bonanza. That is my opinion anyway.

 

[goatwack]

I expect many other providers to copy this model. Why bother raking in 96% over hundreds, if not thousands of spins when you can simply offer the 'convenience' of losing quicker!

And of course it won't be for another couple of years before the UKGC gets around to this, by which time a lot of damage would have been done.

But limit those autospins to 100, that'll help. Said no one ever

 

[BrianGhattas]

@DreamRJ

The slots you are referring to are Acorn Pixie and Butterfly Fairy from Bally. They are at my local. I also know you can buy a bonus in Wonder Woman Gold over in the U.K.

 

[Dinahnana]

sdguy1234 has some sort of job in Hollywood. He's good friends with the cast of Entourage. He claims to run an amusement shop in South Dakota but that's just a front. He once took a shot at me on a video for calling him by his real first name.
.

That was you? lol I remember that video. I think he works in marketing. I enjoy his videos and find him very funny.

 

[cnichas]

Time Waster

I personally despise this slot and find it a time waster , Bonanza and High voltage are balance killers in thier own right but nothing like this blood sucking leech

 

[Dinahnana]

I remember not too long ago I was very excited about this slot's release. I have played it a few times. Bought one bonus at €40 and it returned around €30 bought another one at €10 and I think it paid something around the €6 mark. Triggered one naturally and it paid around 60x.

I know it can go bonkers in the bonus but I can't quite put my finger on why but this slot doesn't have the same excitement for me as Bonanza (which routinely screws me over in the bonus) or even Danger High Voltage. My personal review of White Rabbit is meh! I think I would still feel the same way about it even if I got one of those bonkers bonus rounds.

I don't think I will be buying anymore bonuses on it in the future but I will give it more chances and eventually the coin drop will give me a free bonus sometime around Christmas 2018 I think with some of the BTG games you either love them or are indifferent to them from the start. They don't grow on you and the ones you love you don't get bored of if that makes any sense. For example I am not a fan of Dragon Born or Queen of Riches and detest Starquest even though I know they have great potential. They bore me to tears and I can just about handle 50 spins or so on them.

 

[lockinlove]

Actually your wrong.

There is a few slots in land based casinos in las vegas where you can buy features. I do not remember the name, but it isn't a new thing either. It has been around for years.

I suspect this to be the start of even more slots having this *buy feature button*

Don't forget there is that wonder women slot where you can buy a feature on too. And all the SG slots where u have the big bet buttons.

So I can honestly say this white rabbit slot is not the first and wont be the last.

EDIT: And to note. my experiences of white rabbit too are very poor as well. I have bought about 10 features now. All of them at £20. A few of them was when i managed to get the amount down to about £10.

my best win so far was only 124X bet on one of them. And I concur the base game is total crap. the blow smoke feature is a waste of time. No need for it to be fair. Also I was able to trigger some features in the base game as well. I would say it is a little easier to trigger feature in base game than bonanza. That is my opinion anyway.

Not really wrong as I dont see any slots offering a buy a bonus for $1000. We all know about the pixie slots. There are none really online that im aware of aside from big bets. But again it is no where close to $1000 I believe they are 30 euro.

Will it be the first and last? Maybe. If it catches on and the results are good, other providers might wade into these waters.

 

[lockinlove]

I remember not too long ago I was very excited about this slot's release. I have played it a few times. Bought one bonus at €40 and it returned around €30 bought another one at €10 and I think it paid something around the €6 mark. Triggered one naturally and it paid around 60x.

I know it can go bonkers in the bonus but I can't quite put my finger on why but this slot doesn't have the same excitement for me as Bonanza (which routinely screws me over in the bonus) or even Danger High Voltage. My personal review of White Rabbit is meh! I think I would still feel the same way about it even if I got one of those bonkers bonus rounds.

I don't think I will be buying anymore bonuses on it in the future but I will give it more chances and eventually the coin drop will give me a free bonus sometime around Christmas 2018 I think with some of the BTG games you either love them or are indifferent to them from the start. They don't grow on you and the ones you love you don't get bored of if that makes any sense. For example I am not a fan of Dragon Born or Queen of Riches and detest Starquest even though I know they have great potential. They bore me to tears and I can just about handle 50 spins or so on them.

I dont think its a big mystery. The base game is absolute shit where the other two slots you mention arent.