Comments Welcome WHAT THE F*CK!!!!!!!

[dunover]

Just received this e-mail.
Jesus, if ever you need confirmation players' data is being stolen and peddled for spamming....

 

[neilw]

I responded as I was interested to see whether the data was clean and opted in.

Got this response

Hey,

you can always run them via redirects and referral spoofing so that your operators won't know you're running a list.

The data I'm offering is from November last year - some of ***************brands. Has over 40k records and includes: First Name, Last Name, Country, Address, City, Email, Phone, Zip Code. Check out the countries spread and sample here (attached). The sample data is in the second tab.

Total: 500 euro.

 

[TradaCasino]

Same guy, different email address:

"Hello fellow casino pros,

This email is intended for your Head of Trada Affiliates or CMO. I
would appreciate it if you could forward it to them or send me their
direct contacts.

I have some quality casino depositors emails and phone numbers data for sale.

The price is just a fraction of what it was going for earlier this
year. Let me know if interested.

Best,

D"

*Delete*

 

[nikantw]

OMG!

I believe future lists will include financial and bank records!

 

[Cody7]

Lol desperate times call gor desperate measures

 

[syntynyt]

long since i stopped combating spam, the battle is futile. 99% of those unopened is casino spam from unknown places that happened to hit the inbox, the spam folder is cleaning itself once per week. trouble is when im getting post spam from those places, that really pisses me off.

 

[syntynyt]

like the pedo hunters in the uk which are setting up situations to catch predators willing to meet children, this could be a good set up to test the casinos from accredited list to see if any is willing to buy the list. despite i disagree with punishing the lack of deed and lack of victims, at least a personal warning may precede further acts

 

[Cody7]

long since i stopped combating spam, the battle is futile. 99% of those unopened is casino spam from unknown places that happened to hit the inbox, the spam folder is cleaning itself once per week. trouble is when im getting post spam from those places, that really pisses me off.

Thats appalling

 

[ed skull murphy]

I purchased a nebuliser, online, from what turned out to be a company owned by an Indian, in East London. This was a breathing aid for my dear old Mum, so it was clearly the sort of thing someone elderley and of frail health would require.

Soon afterwards, the phone calls started, from the boiler rooms of Bangalore, they made my Mum's life a misery. I suggested we change the number and go ex-directory but she wouldn't have it, because of all the aggro of informing everyone of the new number.

Those calls continued for about seven years. They have stopped now, however, probably due to the fact that my Mum no longer answers the phone.

 

[colinsunderland]

I'm tempted to buy this just to see if any of my casino specific emails are on it.

 

[Betreels Casino & Sports]

We received the same mail. Looks like he has a list of casino affiliate programs that he is mailing, like a DB from an affiliate portal or something.

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Williams [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 6:39 AM
To: affiliates (@) betreels.com
Subject: Depositors' contacts on Sale for Betreels Affiliates


Hello fellow casino pros,

This email is intended for your Head of Betreels Affiliates or CMO. I

would appreciate it if you could forward it to them or send me their

direct contacts.

I have some quality casino depositors emails and phone numbers data for sale.

The price is just a fraction of what it was going for earlier this

year. Let me know if interested.

Best,

D

 

[goatwack]

If they're going to sell this before then they'll sell it after. As if GDPR regulations are going to thwart them

Good to know the business is alive and kicking

 

[Biti]

So, a casino have had a data breach. They should inform involved clients. I really wonder if casinos are going to do this. They have the mouth full of GDPR, but I really wonder what they're going to do about employees stealing databases with affiliates or players.

 

[The Dude]

Employees who steal databases can go to jail. It's happened before - it's a pretty serious criminal offense that these douchebags should not take lightly. In most cases, databases are seeded with identifiers so that the casino peeps know who it belongs to or where it was stored. Selling a stolen data base - you've got a hole in your head.

 

[budskap]

So, a casino have had a data breach. They should inform involved clients. I really wonder if casinos are going to do this. They have the mouth full of GDPR, but I really wonder what they're going to do about employees stealing databases with affiliates or players.

I think a more plausible explanation than a data breach at a casino is one of the numerous affiliate sites that offers newsletters and whatnot has been breached (or the affiliate just straight selling the list themselves).

I have myself had a phone call out of the blue from an operator (or an affiliate) I had no connection with because I "was on a list of good players". Yeah.. bye.

 

[dunover]

Affpower will buy it! (If it ain't them selling it in the first place lol...)

 

[colinsunderland]

I think a more plausible explanation than a data breach at a casino is one of the numerous affiliate sites that offers newsletters and whatnot has been breached (or the affiliate just straight selling the list themselves).

I have myself had a phone call out of the blue from an operator (or an affiliate) I had no connection with because I "was on a list of good players". Yeah.. bye.

Why do you think that?

 

[dionysus]

It really is the easiest thing in the world to get ahold of a mailing list, whether you build it yourself or purchase one.
Example:
Open an FB page offering any sort of giveaway whatsoever, and people will happily type 'enter me' and bingo-bango, if theyve a public profile, youve access to their first and last name, dob, country of origin, email and phone number.

Have a box at a trade booth with a zillion slips offering a draw for something for free and bam, youve truckloads of slips with the above info.

Companies will exhaust these lists selling their wares with emails and phone calls, then sell the entire list for pennies per, which then in turn, boxes of them are sold off to the next company, ad nauseum

 

[budskap]

Why do you think that?

Because casinos themselves would probably keep these things more securely stored.

 

[ReggieMac]

With a little bit of time and effort it is quite easy to 'Harvest' contact lists from the Internet, couple of the easiest was to collect info Dionysus already mentions above, but if you want to put even less effort in and reap the rewards of of work done by others then a little bit of computer techie know how, knowledge of the whereabouts of some of the more nefarious sites (none of which will be mentioned or discussed here) means you could garnish literally hundred of thousands of contact details in a very short space of time!

 

[Nicola]

Since joining my first casino (I'm now well over 500) I have used a catch-all email account in the form of [email protected] so any breaches I would be able to point the finger. So far, there has only been one that has passed on my details and that was KingPlayer. This occurred after they closed down so either my details were sold on or something was hacked.

When it comes to SMS spam, hell knows. Today, I have been constantly receiving messages from 'MR JAMES' flogging his Curaçao outfit who thinks its lawful to take UK customers

 

[colinsunderland]

Because casinos themselves would probably keep these things more securely stored.

I can name 2 accredited casinos that my details have been sold/leaked/hacked/whatever from.
I've also been offered lists on more than one occasion, one list being sold by an ex employee of a casino, a couple being sold by ex-affiliate managers.

 

[lotusch]

I think there is way too easy access to obtain this data as an employee from let's say a casino.
Maybe I am wrong but I would say even non senior staff in the call centers would have access to the customers details.
Easy to copy-paste them in a spreadsheet et voila.

I sometimes even wonder same at my own job.
New staff are given immediate access to all the systems once they hit the floor.
As we are a payment processor all staff is thoroughly monitored before getting hired, but still..Anyone can get tempted.

I could obtain 100's of credit card details every day with name, dob, address, CVV no, expiry date and spending limit as we have access to those in the risk and fraud department. It is insane if you think about it but then again most people would not even think of stealing these and sell them on the black market...Unfortunately some do..

 

[budskap]

I can name 2 accredited casinos that my details have been sold/leaked/hacked/whatever from.
I've also been offered lists on more than one occasion, one list being sold by an ex employee of a casino, a couple being sold by ex-affiliate managers.

That sucks, thanks for the info. I have no insight into the business or affiliation at all.