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Warning !!! If You Take Photo's With Your Cell Phone !

Awhile back I was reading something about how young women (and sometimes young boys too) around the world are lured by friending men on facebook or other social media sites and then kidnapped off the street or from their own homes by sex traffickers. They were using that same sort of technology to do it, although I think in some cases they were asking for the cell phone numbers of their victims and tracing their location that way.

Pretty screwed up world when you can't post a picture of your children playing without having to worry about some pedophile finding them in their local park.
 
We changed our settings and I have sent this to my friends and family as well as posted it on my timeline and urge others here to do the same on their F/B or other social outlets. It is a scary world we live in with people out there who wish to do our children harm, we should protect our young ones at all costs as they can not defend themselves.

Laurie
 
It looks true, but this has been around for years, just not the handy plugin that makes it simple to visualise the data on a map, and the geo tagging.

I don't think the tip in the video is enough though, it just takes away the geo tagging. It may end up being possible to do something similar with the other image data that cameras (including phones) have always added to the files. These include time and date the photo was taken, and the make and model of camera/phone used. This may be used, along with technology such as "image search", to identify public spaces where a picture was taken, along with date and time. This would still allow patterns to be detected, like always in a particular park at particular times.

Best to educate children about this, rather than trying to clamp down on it behind the scenes.

Before the internet, children were vulnerable if someone knew them by name, and parents were told never to send their children out with their names on their clothing in an easily visible way.

I once turned down a lift home from my Uncle George because I rarely saw him and didn't recognise him or his car at the end of the street. I had been educated about this type of "stranger danger", and used "if in doubt, say no", and made my own way home to verify the claim, which turned out to be true!! I must have been only 5 or 6 at the time. Knowing my name, where I lived, etc, didn't cut any ice with me, I still refused to get in his car.

Kids often have phones from a young age, so it would be worth having geo tagging turned off by default by the parent as the kids may have no idea about it. Facebook may be for 13 and over, but younger kids have sites they can use, and Facebook only acts when someone under 13 is reported to them.

It would be best to give kids a "dumb" phone just to make calls home and take pictures and play music, at least this way they can't fall victim to malware and threats such as this. The problem is getting this past the "smart kid" who knows what phones are "cool" and which are "for losers" from the age of 5.
 
Not sure why they are sold on only warning about cellphones/mobile phones. EXIF data which can be extracted from any photo file has been around for years and most cameras these days can and do store GPS data in that EXIF file. Facebook etc usually remove all EXIF data as far as I am aware though.
 
Not sure why they are sold on only warning about cellphones/mobile phones. EXIF data which can be extracted from any photo file has been around for years and most cameras these days can and do store GPS data in that EXIF file. Facebook etc usually remove all EXIF data as far as I am aware though.

It's the GPS data that seems to be the focus of this warning, rather than the general EXIF data. Phones are probably the most widespread "smart" device that could expose people to this vulnerability, but by concentrating on phones, it could draw attention away from the modern cameras that can also geo-tag pictures.

I expect most users have no idea what EXIF data is, nor where it might be stored. Most probably don't care anyway, they just want a nice photo, and can probably remember where they took it, and roughly when.

I found it by accident on my first digital camera when using a supplied CD containing a simple cut down photo management, and finding the option "view EXIF data" on my imported photos, where I found a timestamp and make and model of the camera.

I also know that downloading someone else's photos from the internet is relatively simple, and this could expose them to local manipulation on the PC, including stripping EXIF data, viewing it, and even falsifying it, before using the photo elsewhere.

Perhaps we need a simple "anonymise my photos" utility that can be used on all photos intended for posting online which would remove such things as geo-tags and EXIF data, and perhaps insert something like a unique code such that the photo could be followed on the web, and anyone who took it for their own use could also be tracked. There probably is one already among the tens of thousands of free or "shared" softwares or apps floating around.
 
How about tracking a baby monitor?:

This story is really creepy:


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That too is very alarming , who would have known 25 years or less ago we would even be talking about these issues, as someone posted before , this is a frightening world we live in !

Laurie
 
It was an internet enabled monitor, which like a PC or phone, is vulnerable to attack. Sounds like this was a case of a "power trip" rather than any intent to burgle the house or kidnap the child. If someone had serious intent, they would not announce that they had hacked the device, but stayed below the radar till the time was right.

It's more of a worry for those that have NOT yet found out. There has been a recent warning about laptop cameras getting hijacked, with the advice being that to be 100% sure, physically cover it if not in use rather than rely on settings and software.

This is the kind of knowledge that few know about, but that is a critical vulnerability for the many. Even those who know about such worrisome things probably have little idea as to how to protect themselves effectively. We rely on Microsoft and security software providers to be on the ball and protect the average user from such things, but this is not enough. There are many who spend almost every waking hour probing for such exploits, and significant sums of money can be made by discovering and selling on the best of them. Maybe big companies like Microsoft should offer even bigger cash rewards for those who discover such bugs and pass them to the company, rather than sell them to hackers and criminals. In many cases, it's about the money, and if Microsoft offer $1 million for a major security exploit, I bet many more will end up being reported rather than exploited in the wild. For the purist hacker, as well as the large bounty there would be the kudos of recognition, whereas the criminal underworld will not offer any public kudos, just the money that will have to be kept quiet lest it be confiscated as the "proceeds of crime".
 
The link I posted is not working anymore , here or on F/B:confused:


Laurie

It's half working. I can read the story, but the video doesn't work. Firstly, it was a "technical problem", and now I am banned by Yahoo news from viewing it because of my location. This is bad form, putting commercial interests ahead of a critical safety issue that affects everyone, not just parents in the USA.

No doubt a UK friendly story of a similar nature will arise, but companies need to put their greed to one side when this type of issue arises, where it is important that as many people as possible hear about it as soon as possible so that action can be taken.

We can't rely on the companies who's product has been found lacking to tell us, they would rather keep such things under wraps in case customers avoid the risk by avoiding the product.

The problem with hearing something like this via a Facebook share is that many may dismiss it as another hoax, as it stretches the imagination that a baby monitor can be hacked into without knowing the details, and having an understanding of the technical issues involved.
 
It's half working. I can read the story, but the video doesn't work. Firstly, it was a "technical problem", and now I am banned by Yahoo news from viewing it because of my location. This is bad form, putting commercial interests ahead of a critical safety issue that affects everyone, not just parents in the USA.

No doubt a UK friendly story of a similar nature will arise, but companies need to put their greed to one side when this type of issue arises, where it is important that as many people as possible hear about it as soon as possible so that action can be taken.

We can't rely on the companies who's product has been found lacking to tell us, they would rather keep such things under wraps in case customers avoid the risk by avoiding the product.

The problem with hearing something like this via a Facebook share is that many may dismiss it as another hoax, as it stretches the imagination that a baby monitor can be hacked into without knowing the details, and having an understanding of the technical issues involved.


The baby monitor issue was on the news this morning so I hope some who did see it will take action to protect their families , if anyone runs across a better link on the cell phone hacking , will you please post it as this is not a hoax and people need to know about this, everywhere !!

Laurie
 
The baby monitor issue was on the news this morning so I hope some who did see it will take action to protect their families , if anyone runs across a better link on the cell phone hacking , will you please post it as this is not a hoax and people need to know about this, everywhere !!

Laurie


Found it, the Daily Telegraph in the UK.

It's not an actual "baby monitor" though, but rather a "wireless IP camera" that can be connected to via a browser from anywhere on the internet provided the password is known. The problem seems to be that users don't bother setting their own password, and as with routers, everybody knows the defaults. The hack seems to have come over the internet via an insecure router to an unsecured Foscam IP camera. Because they can stream video and audio to any internet device, they are "suitable for baby monitoring" among other things. I am not sure why it had a SPEAKER though, as most recording/security cameras just record to a storage device.

It may also be possible to hack into security cameras too, just as webcams can be hacked. It would just take some scanning software to trawl the internet for live feed video. The UK is full of CCTV, so probably a prime target for such hacking.
 
The baby monitor issue was on the news this morning so I hope some who did see it will take action to protect their families , if anyone runs across a better link on the cell phone hacking , will you please post it as this is not a hoax and people need to know about this, everywhere !!

Laurie

Sure here you go.

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