Wager Junction

[Zodiac]

Hi Folks,

please can someone tell me that it gives no problems with King Solomons ?

sorry, but i'm a little bit excited and i will explain it to you now:

today i deposited $50 and claim a 60% Bonus (Tuesday Slot Club Offer)

i played a while up and down and then before a few minutes i played with a $2,- bet at Realm of Riches and get Free Spins.

at the last Spin i hit 4 Crowns and it payed $4000.-

so i let all until now and made a Screenshot but before i would show you the Shot
what should i do ? get into Live Chat and asking if there is already ok ?

Thanks for any answers

Zodiac

 

[vinylweatherman]

If you only played slots with the bonus, you are OK.

The WR is around 20x D+B (at least it was last time I got one of these), and there is a term that states you must cash in an amount not less than your initial bankroll, ie. you must have won overall (this term should not bother you in this case ).

One term to be aware of is that you may NOT add another deposit, comps, etc on top of these bonus offers - while this could boost your balance to meet the minimum withdrawal term, it will void all but your own deposits.

The win MAY exceed the single weekly cashout limit, so it is worth checking the banking information to see what this is.

You shoud contact support to be absolutely certain you have cleared WR once the balance shows in the cashier as "withdrawable". You may be asked for documents due to the size of win, unless you have already supplied them.

If you have kept within all the T & C, you have the full backing of Casinomeister, as this one is accredited.

 

[Zodiac]

Thank you for your answer VWM,

in the meantime i contacted support and yes, i play only Slots and sent them the Docs (they confirmed that they got my mail)

the Cashier let me cashout max. $2.500 first and then it was approved i can withdraw the next $1.500

once it has approved (normally 48hours) they say it can takes 7 working days to go to my Neteller Acc.

i can't find any information about the weekly max. Amount on their Website

a very long time waiting until to 11 days to receive the first Amount and waiting for the same to get the second Amount

(this stands at their Website:
Neteller

You may request a withdrawal of your funds via Neteller. There is no fee associated with a Neteller withdrawal. They are normally approved within 48 hours and are soon thereafter transferred to your account. )

Regards

Zodiac

 

[lots0]

Congrats!!! :notworthy

Wager Junction is good for the money. If your win is legit you'll get your cash.

BTW - You can thank the US Banking System (even though your not in America) and the UIGEA (US law) for your long wait to receive your funds.

The new US laws have desiccated the payment processors that most of the European Casinos use.

Disclosure:
I promote some Wager Junction properties.

 

[Zodiac]

thank you too lots0,

update after Chat today: i have deposited with Click2Pay !

Neteller Withdrawal Declined !

Wire Transfer Withdrawal Requested !

Wire Transfer Withdrawal Approved !

perhaps you can explain some details to me that i not really have understand.

asked the Agent why Wire Transfer and not Neteller she say while i have deposited with
C2Pay .confused:

i cant understand why wire transfer, surely i sent them a copy of my front and back side at my debit card, but passes them the information ? dont they need the IBAN Nr. etc.

withdrawal is approved today but it hasn't yet been issued.

and before the end of this week it will be issued.

when it's processed it takes 5 - 6 working days to reflect in your account.

processing is therefore when they pay it out to my account ?

if it is so, it takes 2 or 3 days longer including WE. that would be reflect next Friday into my account.

she also say that my max monthly withdrawal limit is $5000 ?


Regards

Zodiac

 

[vinylweatherman]

thank you too lots0,

update after Chat today: i have deposited with Click2Pay !

Neteller Withdrawal Declined !

Wire Transfer Withdrawal Requested !

Wire Transfer Withdrawal Approved !

perhaps you can explain some details to me that i not really have understand.

asked the Agent why Wire Transfer and not Neteller she say while i have deposited with
C2Pay .confused:

i cant understand why wire transfer, surely i sent them a copy of my front and back side at my debit card, but passes them the information ? dont they need the IBAN Nr. etc.

withdrawal is approved today but it hasn't yet been issued.

and before the end of this week it will be issued.

when it's processed it takes 5 - 6 working days to reflect in your account.

processing is therefore when they pay it out to my account ?

if it is so, it takes 2 or 3 days longer including WE. that would be reflect next Friday into my account.

she also say that my max monthly withdrawal limit is $5000 ?


Regards

Zodiac

They may be a little more relaxed once you have played for a while. Most casinos insist you must have deposited with Neteller before you can withdraw that way. They could have withdrawn to Click2Pay, but if they offer a bank wire it should be worth it. They should need IBAN etc, as it seems new EU regulations came in a while ago. They may find they cannot process the wire without these numbers, and may only find out after you have waited a while (over 2 weeks with Neteller in my case before I got someone with half a brain who told me Neteller needed my IBAN before they could process).
You should get yours over 2 weeks, but should you win again later in the month you could hit the monthly limit.
Strange how RTG casinos have this "cashflow problem" that many Microgaming casinos dont, or if they have limits, they are far higher than the average for RTG.

 

[Zodiac]

i've sent them the additional Informations IBAN and SWIFT CODE, now we will see how long time it takes

 

[Nifty29]

I just dont understand these procedures.

Why does it matter how you make a withdrawal? I can understand the whole money-laundering thing, but the player took a bonus for goodness sake and played slots - must be the worst money launderer on god's green earth.

As far as fraud etc is concerned, we have had another casino operator on these forums state that merchants can 'chargeback' fraudulent payouts back from Neteller at any time, so surely that is a safe option?? I mean, good luck retrieving a bank wire after it is credited to a bank account!!

I would also think it was cheaper to use Neteller for the casino, as bankwires can get expensive, but I'm not 100% sure so Im not going to place a weeks' wages on it.

Casino's spruik Neteller/C2P/MBookers as their preferred methods, but then have frustrating rules like the above. I remember once I cashed out from Casino Rewards, after depositing via MBookers, and they sent the original deposit back to MB and the rest by check via snail mail..... .

 

[Zodiac]

Casino's spruik Neteller/C2P/MBookers as their preferred methods, but then have frustrating rules like the above. I remember once I cashed out from Casino Rewards, after depositing via MBookers, and they sent the original deposit back to MB and the rest by check via snail mail.....

for me as a Player from Europe i have had two or three MG Casinos where took the same procedure, what you say.

original deposit back to the prefered deposit method and the other Funds not via snail mail, separate where you wish.

i know that your Options limited are as here.

for me it's equal, if the time to Neteller takes the same as Wire Transfer, it's better for me that they pay me directly but i don't know how long the time takes.

the other one is that they not answer at mails, although i receive always automatically mails that they receive my mail and that i will receive a response shortly, when i send emails.
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update after Chat today:

they are always friendly but every day another statement with a other Agent

it has been processed yesterday and should take up 14 working days to reach u.

puuuuuh :-(

now it is 14 working days (not 5-6) that means it can take up to 18 days.

asking why no response via email:

answer: just to tell u that we recievd your mail and someone is looking into it

you will get one do not worry

you will have an answer sometimes it takes more time but everyone gets a reply

asking how long takes Withdrawals to process and what method is the quickest:

Agent: between 4 to 14 workings
but neteller is the quickest way to get your withdrawal

Player: can i use Neteller although i have deposited with Click2Pay ?

Agent: yes i think you need an accont with neteller

Player: i have an account

Agent: ok so then it is fine just make sure you advise what way you want your withdarwal to be made to

Player: i have also an MB Account

Agent: yes it is fine we accept all those

Player: the other Agent say that i can't use Neteller while i have deposited with C2Pay

Agent: if they only restrict it to there own so u cant
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it seems that their own terms and statements are a little bit in disorder

but ok. Essential matter i will paid

Zodiac

 

[winbig]

Sorry, but lol:

Player: can i use Neteller although i have deposited with Click2Pay ?

Agent: yes i think you need an accont with neteller

I hope you get your money soon.

 

[Zodiac]

Sorry, but lol:



I hope you get your money soon.

you don't must say sorry winbig i also lol (CM needs a smilie for lol)

and thanks

Zodiac

 

[Mike031]

Sorry, but lol:



I hope you get your money soon.

*lol*

That's only a dream and that's why i've now closed my account forever, because they are only time waster!

The Live Support was never available and if i sent them an email, i must always wait a minimum of 10 days to get any answer and that's too bad for me, sorry!

It can't be, that i must wait over 1 week, to get my withdrawal (i would only withdraw 500.- Dollars), because there is even SciFi & Breakaway Casino better, because they pay out at the same day, if you make a withdrawal up to $ 500.-

I hope certainly for you, that you get your money, but you must be evry patient, because i'm sure, that they need a very long time for this transaction!

BTW. you MUST have made only one deposit with Neteller, to withdraw it to them, because otherwise, they won#t send it to your Neteller Account! I tried exactly the same, at the beginning, as i've made a deposit with moneybookers, but then i got an email, that it's not available, only when i make a deposit with Neteller, but Wire Transfer should never be a problem and is normally the fastest, but also the most expensive way.

 

[Farshin]

In a casino I used moneybookers to deposit and I asked them if I can withdraw back to it and they told me I could. Later when i tried to withdraw to moneybookers it was not available, It was my fault that didnt check it before depositing. I contacted them and they apologised , but they told me if I deposit 20 dollar by neteller(minimum deposit by neteller was 20), i can withdraw all the money back to it. You can ask this from them, maybe not ok with them.

 

[Zodiac]

new update:

i like to let you know, that i'm paid yesterday with the first $2500 ( i saw it accidental while i deposit with C2Pay and read i have Funds )

the other $1500 is in pending, so i think i can place also the Shot at Winner Screenshots to you

takes three working days ( i mean, actual fast to C2Pay ) not so as they said on Chat

Regards


Zodiac

 

[vinylweatherman]

new update:

i like to let you know, that i'm paid yesterday with the first $2500 ( i saw it accidental while i deposit with C2Pay and read i have Funds )

the other $1500 is in pending, so i think i can place also the Shot at Winner Screenshots to you

takes three working days ( i mean, actual fast to C2Pay ) not so as they said on Chat

Regards


Zodiac

They should be OK for the money, but their CS really SUCKS!!
I have had the same problems, live chat not working, E-mails ignored for days, if not weeks. Sometimes a reply NEVER comes.
If I want this sort of crap I'll play at BelleRock At least I get a few bonus offers with them.

 

[Mike031]

If I want this sort of crap I'll play at BelleRock At least I get a few bonus offers with them.

For me BelleRock (Lucky Nugget) was always good to me, because their weekend bonsues comes always within 1-3 hours in my account and when i win something and make directly a flushing to withdrawal, i always get my money within 24 hours, so they really much better, as KS, but okay, it's a MG Casino and not a RTG, although nobody can beat InetBet with their fast payouts and also fast supportmail answers

 

[Zodiac]

I have had the same problems, live chat not working, E-mails ignored for days, if not weeks. Sometimes a reply NEVER comes.

if i opening the Talisma Chat first, it comes another small window for shortly
installation.

first time i ignore this but the Chat also not work, as i install this now, Chat works.

i don't know if this the reason or what's happen to you, but it can be that you must unblock the Fire Wall and you must allow all popup's and then it should works.

you can be sure, they look into the mails but until now emails with no response, not one

( everyone gets an answer always, they say )

have you tried to call them ?

 

[Mike031]

it can be that you must unblock the Fire Wall and you must allow all popup's and then it should works.

That's not really the problem, because i don't use any firewall or popupblocker and the chat will work, but you must wait some minutes and then comes only a message with "sorry, but at this time there is no support agent available, please email us to [email protected] (i don't know if this is the exact mailaddres) but this email doesn't exist, so it's a false message, because you must send it to [email protected]
So the chat works fine, but it's never anyone in there and i've tried it really lot of difference times!

Whatever, my account is now finally closed, after 1 month telling them to do this, so i'll never have any problem with their

 

[Zodiac]

i was paid completely thank you Wager Junction

the second withdrawal of $1.500 requested on 6/22/2007, approved and paid on 6/25/2007 surprised to Neteller but ok.

i mean it was fast and i'm satisfied

 

[Mike031]

3 days is fast?

it's okay, but not nearly so fast as InetBet or CWC

 

[Zodiac]

3 days is fast?

it's okay, but not nearly so fast as InetBet or CWC

surely is InetBet the fast and CWC, i mean for the other RTG's it's fast and 3 days are normally i think, i must also wait between 2 to 4 days at a MG Casino (incl. pending)

it goes always faster if one will there

 

[Mike031]

i must also wait between 2 to 4 days at a MG Casino

Then you play in the false MG Casinos, because i must never wasit longer, than 24 hours and at most even under 12 hours!
Pending Phase, whats this?
I'll never play in any MG Casino, on which i can't flush my withdrawal directly

 

[Zodiac]

Then you play in the false MG Casinos, because i must never wasit longer, than 24 hours and at most even under 12 hours!
Pending Phase, whats this?
I'll never play in any MG Casino, on which i can't flush my withdrawal directly

i don't think that i play in the false MG Casinos

all MG Casinos have a min.24 hour pending phase (for reversing) and it takes between 1 to 2 days reflecting in your account, or i'm wrong ?

Do you mean your are requesting always for a flushing withdrawal ?

and in which MG Groups do you do it ?

In the entire time, one became accustomed also to these "2-3" days and is for me no problem.

But it would be naturally also right to me if it happens into a couple of hours.

 

[Mike031]

all MG Casinos have a min.24 hour pending phase (for reversing) and it takes between 1 to 2 days reflecting in your account, or i'm wrong ?

Do you mean your are requesting always for a flushing withdrawal ?

Ok, it's your ownn thing, when you want to wait so long, but as i said, i'll never play at any MG Casino, on which i can#t flush my withdrawals, because that's only time wasting!

Certainly i flush every withdrawal and i think, that this is normal and every other player do this also, if he knew this option, but somebody don't know this, even you

So why should i wait 2-3 days for my money, which i've deposited directly in my account, when i can get it within under 24 hours?

I play at BelleRock Group (Lucky Nugget) and Jackpotfactory Group (Allslots) and i always got my money at most within 12 hours, so why should i play in another casinos, on which i must wait some days to get my wins?

Probably you can also flush your withdrawals, but maybe you haven't tried this before?

 

[lots0]

So you got your FIRST withdrawal from any belle rock casino in under 12 hours... Ya right

I love Belle Rock, been doing business with them for years, but I have yet to see a large first time withdrawal go out in under 3 days.

Now after your FIRST withdrawal the rest should go fast and smooth, depending on your withdrawal method. But not the first withdrawal, never the first large withdrawal with any online casino.

 

[Mike031]

So you got your FIRST withdrawal in under 12 hours... Ya right

and where is now your problem?

 

[lots0]

I got no problem.

I just think getting a large FIRST time withdrawal (from any online casino) in under 12 hours is a bullshit story.

 

[Mike031]

a large FIRST time withdrawal (from any online casino) in under 12 hours is a bullshit story.

And where have i written this exactly please?

I've only written, that i always get my withdrawals under 24 hours and not any FIRST "BIG Wins" under 12 hours!

Although i think, that this is also possible, because i know, that it's also possible at InetBet, so why should there be any problem?

You must only send your ID and Faxbackform, but this should not be any problem, because i send to all casinos automatically all my documents after making my first withdrawal, so they must not ask me extra for this and so you can save also time

 

[lots0]

Zodiac was talking about a FIRST TIME withdrawal, that took three days to complete.

That time frame is not unrealistic or out of line with any other online casino, including InetBet or Belle Rock.

In other words, Wager Junction is just as fast (in some cases faster) to do a FIRST TIME payout as Inetbet or Belle Rock...

 

[Mike031]

Ok, but we've spoken at the end about MG Casinos and not about first withdrawals and there is a 3 day withdrawal time too long.

Maybe you should read at first all postings, before you reply here, thanks!

The End.

Back to Topic please, thanks!

 

[lots0]

Maybe you should read at first all postings, before you reply here, thanks!

Right Back at ya...

 

[Mike031]

Are you bored, or what's your problem?

Go out for a walk or anything else, but don't piss me off here, because you go now on my nerves!

So stop this spamming, because you haven't post any sinful here!

 

[lots0]

Don't threaten me Mike, cus I'll get real scared and cry.

Look Mike, you stated you had a problem with Wager Junction and closed your account there. So obviously you have an axe to grind with Wager Junction and are all about bad talking Wager Junction.

Wager Junction is a good outfit and they pay as fast as any other casino out there, including your favorites that you mentioned in almost every post...

If you'll notice Wager Junction casinos are accredited by CasinoMeister, if they did not pay winners in a timely manner I doubt Bryan would continue to list them as accredited.

I also think you have a problem with understanding the English Language (or at least I have a problem understanding some of what you have written).

BTW - How could I be possibly be 'spamming'? I have not sent an email all day...

 

[Mike031]

Wager Junction is a good outfit and they pay as fast as any other casino out there, including your favorites that you mentioned in almost every post...

*lol*

Sorry, but this is the greates joke ever!

They need always a minimum of 3 days to pay out and they didn't pay out on weekends, so how can they be as fast as another Casinos?

Now you shpuld wake up from your own Dreamland, because this is not the truth

But i think, that you get money from them, or you're an afflitate from KS?

You must only read some posts in difference KS Threads, then you know, how bad this casino is and how much (ex)users never play there, because of their crappy suppoert, which takes always a minimum of 10 days to answer you of your emails and this is really bullshit!

I'm not the only one, who have this experience, so maybe you're only be a very lucky man, because you get yourt withdrawal from KS always very fast, even faster as on another RTGs, but when you say this here, i think that you lie to yourself, because this can't be the truth now!

Btw. you steal my time only for this sucking casino and this is also very bad!

I've not closed my account, that i must make some discussions with you here, but i closed my account there, because i want never hear anything from their, so please stop this god damned shit, thanks!

 

[lots0]

you're an afflitate from KS?

If you would have read this entire thread (like you so politely asked me to do) you would have noticed that in my first post in this thread I put up a disclaimer, I am not hiding anything.

Again, you have an axe to grind with Wager Junction. It is rather obvious.

Since you closed your account at Wager Junction how do you know how they pay?

Again, Wager Junction is accredited by CasinoMeister as a TRUSTED Casino.

If they are so bad, why are the Wager Junction Casinos on the CasinoMeister ACCREDITED LIST?

Again, I am sure that Bryan would not have them on the accredited list if there were ANY substantiated wrong doing or funny business going on.

If you think Wager Junction is so bad maybe you (and all your invisible friends) should PAB (Pitch a Bitch) with Bryan to see if you can get them removed from the CasinoMeister ACCREDITED LIST.

Wager Junction is a good group of casinos, that do pay on time, every time.

 

[Mike031]

Since you closed your account at Wager Junction how do you know how they pay?

When you have a brain, which works, you should know, that i've played there before and this was now the fact, why i've closed my account there, because they needed always more days to pay and so you must not ask me this silly question!

I am sure that Bryan would not have them on the accredited list

I've never posted here anywhere, that they'll not paying players, but they waste your time with their long pending period!
Even a accreddited Casino must not be the best one and can also have some troubles, so it's not a guarantee that all is okay!

But you can play where you want, but i only want to play in casinos, which can answer me within some hours and not in 10 days and when i make a withdrawal, i want my money within 1 day and not in 3 days or maybe even later!

I hope we've cleared this now, because i've another things to do and don't want to waste my time with these unimportant things!

Thanks for your understanding!

 

[lots0]

Well I think you've been proven wrong, in this instance Wager Junction did pay just as fast as any other casino out there.

Three days for a first large withdrawal is not out of line for any Online Casino and as you can plainly see Zodiac was paid in full, in a timely manner.

You just want to bad mouth a casino you don't like with no proof and no back up.

If there are all these threads about Wager Junction not paying on time, where are they? Post a few links so I can see what your talking about.

In other words, if your going to bad mouth a casino, please provide PROOF or at least something to back up what your saying.

If you can show me some proof, maybe I'll side with you, but if all you got are baseless accusations you really should just stfu.

 

[Mike031]

About yourself:"I am a bit of an ass hole"

That's correct, but not only a BIT!

 

[The Dude]

Boys, boys, let's chill.

To ease the stress, perhaps we should watch some of Mike031's videos

 

[The Dude]

Fuck yourself you god damned son of a bitch and shut up!

Well that's a hokey pokey no no.

Strafarbeit!

I'll open the thread back up when you guys have a beer and chill out

 

[Zodiac]

Wager Junction 2

Hi Guys,

i'm really , at the afternoon i must working , now i came home in the evening and was shocked that i must read so many posts in the Thread.

keep cool guys, my regarding was not that you get itself both into your hairs.

God beware what have i done ?

i think it's better to write no more above Wager Junction, breaks the Hell lot

sorry, that i open a new Thread but Bryan closed this Thread and i had no chance to reply.

Bryan, if you insert this post in the old Thread you can delete this one, or you can close also this.

 

[The Dude]

Me thinks everyone is cool now.

 

[Wagerjunction]

Payment times and other Issues

Guys my apologies for being totally absent while this thread was going on . I have been on my annual holiday in turkey trekking through some hot and wild country and avoiding the floods in England .

Zodiac congratulations on the win and i am glad that you have received most of your cash . What you can be gaurenteed is that you will be paid out in full .

I am not going to make excuses - our CS at the moment does suck and there are reasons for that .Mike has had issues with getting funds that he has purchased credited to his account . I have asked him how he has made the purchases so that we can take a look at this . Even though we have lost Mike as a player we can ensure that in future others will not have to go through this issue.

UIGEA has hit us especially hard as we have had to move whole departments to different countries including the finance and accounts guys and therefore a backlog and delays have built up as there is loss of staff and training time to be factored in.

In any event the comparison between different Casinos is not apt as we choose what we want to do and do not base our business model on any other Casino . They have thier model and we have ours

Mike whilst you have pointed out a few issues with our Casinos i do think that you are a bit over the top with your commentary and your postings could also be a bit more diplomatic. Lots0 is a very experienced member of the gaming community and could undoubtedly provide you with both hours of knowledge re the gaming community. If you choose not to want it - so be it.

In addition being an affiliate of a place does not disqualify anybody from making comments re sites.

In your last post to me i stated that i could not get your account closed as i am here to assist players with issues - if you want to close your account please email the Casino and they will oblige your request - that is something that has been done now i can gather from your posts.

I take solace in the fact that we have been around since 1998 and have recently sold our Bingo business for a massive amount - that is one of the strains that have been placed on our CS guys and one that will disappear in due course allowing them to provide more time and attention to our Casino brands. We can and will get better going forward.

Best of Luck with your gaming in the future.

Regards
Greg

 

[Zodiac]

Hi Greg,

thank you for your kindly words what concerns me.

I was paid full and for me in a acceptable time.

But i wonder, why Windows Casino or Aqua Pay needs my docs again.

These was send in June to KS in regarding my withdrawal.

And now i'm waiting 8 days for a $250 Withdrawal and today Aqua Pay asked for the docs, what i sent today.

Are there different payment systems at your group ?

Cyber Financial Investments and Aqua Pay ?

Another thing is, Windows is powered by Playtech ? since when ?

Regards

Zodiac