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Slots of fortune Casino have stolen more then 1.000 € from me avoid them at all cost !!!

I highly disagree with the way SOF handled things, but there might be more to that story we dont know, thats why a PAB would be great.

Take a look at Bryans final statement in this thread , there is nothing more .....


Places like SlotsNuts or Cleopatras Palace do not have a history of NOT paying players, instead they have NO history of ever PAYING a player.
Does RTG care? No way.

I have only plaid at Cleopatra and they paid me after 3 month . Seems i was lucky there .


@Weplant

You are lucky that you received your winnings , but you have to be careful there is a high risk they will steal you winnings . The higher your win the higher the chance Slots of fortune will steal your money .

Gambling is not safe but you can reduce the risk of not getting paid if you choose safe places . Take a look at the site , the casinos which are advertised here are safe and not rogue .
 
Slots of fortune Casino have stolen more then 1.000 € from me avoid them at all cost !!!

Take a look at Bryans final statement in this thread , there is nothing more .....

Completely agree Heador...and any webmaster or player who advocates playing there, is basically slapping you in the face.

More to the story? The guy played high variance slots at max bet, and got LUCKY. He just as easily could have zeroed out within a very few spins. Since when did playing slots become a form of advantage play? And what about Rival's oh so famous bonus abuser list? Where was this when Heador was depositing and losing? He was welcome to deposit and claim bonuses all he liked as long as he was losing. Soon as he got lucky and won...he's a "known" bonus abuser.

Bullshit. And shame on you KK and Laurie for defending these guys. I like you both, but this is EXACTLY why I don't want to make friends on these forums....I want to be able to call bullshit when I see it, and when I'm friends with people it makes it a whole lot harder to do. It is absolutely nothing personal...but you know this is wrong.

And Weplant...have fun with your "blood money", which is basically what it is when a casino picks and chooses who to pay as they see fit.
 
Completely agree Heador...and any webmaster or player who advocates playing there, is basically slapping you in the face.

More to the story? The guy played high variance slots at max bet, and got LUCKY. He just as easily could have zeroed out within a very few spins. Since when did playing slots become a form of advantage play? And what about Rival's oh so famous bonus abuser list? Where was this when Heador was depositing and losing? He was welcome to deposit and claim bonuses all he liked as long as he was losing. Soon as he got lucky and won...he's a "known" bonus abuser.

Bullshit. And shame on you KK and Laurie for defending these guys. I like you both, but this is EXACTLY why I don't want to make friends on these forums....I want to be able to call bullshit when I see it, and when I'm friends with people it makes it a whole lot harder to do. It is absolutely nothing personal...but you know this is wrong.

And Weplant...have fun with your "blood money", which is basically what it is when a casino picks and chooses who to pay as they see fit.

Enough is enough...I simply made a simple comment that i had played at a casino for the first time and was paid quickly..Thats it...Now for you to call my small winnings "BLOOD MONEY" is totally uncalled for and quite insulting...No one is forcing you to play there or anywhere else..Lighten up!!!!!
 
Wow, what will be said next?
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I have nothing to be ashamed of and with what I have faced this past 3 weeks, your post doesnt phase me one iota about shame, If Bryan wants me to remove my affy sig after being a long time posting member on this forum and promoting this group, so be it.

There are good Rival casinos out there just like other platforms who have some of the worst casinos and I will run my forum as I see fit and fair for the members.

The comment about blood money was uncalled for imho, people are going to play where they want, you can not control that and like KK we have never made a dime on the several Rivals we do promote.Its not about the money, its about players getting paid and so far we have had no complaints.

Laurie
 
Completely agree Heador...and any webmaster or player who advocates playing there, is basically slapping you in the face.

More to the story? The guy played high variance slots at max bet, and got LUCKY. He just as easily could have zeroed out within a very few spins. Since when did playing slots become a form of advantage play? And what about Rival's oh so famous bonus abuser list? Where was this when Heador was depositing and losing? He was welcome to deposit and claim bonuses all he liked as long as he was losing. Soon as he got lucky and won...he's a "known" bonus abuser.

Bullshit. And shame on you KK and Laurie for defending these guys. I like you both, but this is EXACTLY why I don't want to make friends on these forums....I want to be able to call bullshit when I see it, and when I'm friends with people it makes it a whole lot harder to do. It is absolutely nothing personal...but you know this is wrong.

And Weplant...have fun with your "blood money", which is basically what it is when a casino picks and chooses who to pay as they see fit.


What about when people PAB for an accredited casino and win the PAB? Isn't the casino in question picking and choosing who they will pay? Until they get caught obviously.

If Bryan doesn't have a problem with KK, Laurie or whomever, I don't believe anyone else should, at least not at this forum.

I think that "blood money" comment was quite insulting to Weplant also.
 
I think that "blood money" comment was quite insulting to Weplant also.

And I think that starting a thread telling everyone how quickly you got paid at a rogue casino, especially AFTER you already asked for opinions previously on this same rogue casino (and were given a link to the thread describing Heador's situation)...is more than insulting.

Weplant asks for feedback, gets all the info they need, and then posts this thread anyway. There ya go Heador...I got paid, but you didn't...you dirty old bonus abuser. Wait til Weplant doesn't get paid.

Good Rivals? Very few of the white label variety, considering they all use the same shitty support and same hit or miss payment processing. Maybe you'll get paid today, maybe next week. Mehhh...who knows? Add in the ridiculous bonus banning system (which of course failed them miserably in Heador's case didn't it....how convenient), and the fact that none of them (except for maybe Vegas Regal, when Nicholas was there) pay out progressive wins in one lump sum, but instead dole it out in weekly and monthly payments....which is a sure sign of a casino with cash flow and ethics issues. The white label Rivals are very much like the shitty and cirminal RTG operations. Whereas the Slotocash's and the Box 24's are the Inetbet's and the Clubworld's of the Rival world.

There's more but why bother? Me calling it blood money when someone brags about a fast payout from the same casino that is currently screwing over one of their fellow members...that's insulting to some of you? Ha...some community.

I find it insulting that anyone could say they play at or promote this shit hole...do you have rocks in your heads...for real? No different than Virtual. A casino claiming advantage play on high variance slots...and instead of boycotting them and blacklisting them...you're singing their praises.

But I'm the insulting one? Yeah okay...no wonder I don't post here anymore. Or not very much. Rocks I tell ya... :rolleyes:

I'm curious why Weplant started the other thread at all asking for feedback on Slots of Fortune? Given the link to the thread in question, and completely ignores it. What's the point? I've said it before....casinos should need a license to operate..so should affiliates have to be licensed. And players should be forced to take some kind of casino IQ test before they are allowed to plop their money down.
 
There's more but why bother? Me calling it blood money when someone brags about a fast payout from the same casino that is currently screwing over one of their fellow members...that's insulting to some of you? Ha...some community.

I find it insulting that anyone could say they play at or promote this shit hole...do you have rocks in your heads...for real? No different than Virtual. A casino claiming advantage play on high variance slots...and instead of boycotting them and blacklisting them...you're singing their praises.

But I'm the insulting one? Yeah okay...no wonder I don't post here anymore. Or not very much. Rocks I tell ya


First you say "blood money" to a forum member, now you are saying some forum members have "rocks in their heads", but then use the term "community"? Who treats their community with those comments? That's probably why you don't post here very much anymore.

Doesn't make sense to bring up the words community/fellow members, then give those same members a right hook.

As for the rest of your post, I guess everyone will have to wait for Weplant to respond.
 
And I think that starting a thread telling everyone how quickly you got paid at a rogue casino, especially AFTER you already asked for opinions previously on this same rogue casino (and were given a link to the thread describing Heador's situation)...is more than insulting.
Once again, Slots of Fortune is NOT a rogued casino here at Casinomeister.

If the final outcome of Heador's situation is that Bryan decides that the casino should be rogued I will fully support his decision and will completely remove all links to them from all my sites.
I don't know about other countries, but here in the UK we believe in "innocent until proved guilty".

KK
 
If Weplant is actually getting paid when he wins and is having fun, than that is all that matters. It is at his own risk if he wants to play at a site that is not accredited. I have only once bought in on a rival site and they never paid me. I think it was called orangegamez or something like that. I won on a nondeposit bonus and when I tried to cash out they wanted me to deposit first and then make my withdrawal. i took everyones advice on here and chose not to make the deposit and let them keep the money I won. I did not want to take a chance. The thing that makes my weary about Slots of F, and Weplants situation, is that it seems to good to be true. paying you out in a matter of hours seems amazing, but it might a way to try and get you to play there more often and once you win big they won't pay. This happened to me years ago on golden palace. I was winning at golden palace a lot and kept making small withdrawals for around 200.00 and once i finally hit a real jackpot and got up to close to 2k and tried to cashout, they never paid me. But, weplant might have found a good place for him to personally play. After seeing how bad he has been doing on some other sites from his posts, it could be very refreshing to start winning. And as KK noted, it not listed as a rogue casino! If I personally only played at the casinos on the accredited list I would be broke and not be able to play online anymore. I have played at a few sites that are not accredited and done well. But, I guess we will see what happens with weplant and make our decision from there. I don't think it is very polite for people to flame or be mean to Weplant just because he chose to play somewhere that is under criticism. If it was actually in the rogue pit he would not have played there. :eek2: Just to clarify, the sites I have played on that are not accredited are the ones that have not yet been reviewed. i have only once recently played on a rogue site, and that was before seeing it was a rogue, and of they did not pay me LOL Anyways..

I had to edit my post because I wrote about having a bad experience on slots of fortune, but it was actually slots of vegas that had ripped me off.
 
If Weplant is actually getting paid when he wins and is having fun, than that is all that matters. It is at his own risk if he wants to play at a site that is not accredited. I have only once bought in on a rival site and they never paid me. I think it was called orangegamez or something like that. I won on a nondeposit bonus and when I tried to cash out they wanted me to deposit first and then make my withdrawal. i took everyones advice on here and chose not to make the deposit and let them keep the money I won. I did not want to take a chance. The thing that makes my weary about Slots of F, and Weplants situation, is that it seems to good to be true. paying you out in a matter of hours seems amazing, but it might a way to try and get you to play there more often and once you win big they won't pay. This happened to me years ago on golden palace. I was winning at golden palace a lot and kept making small withdrawals for around 200.00 and once i finally hit a real jackpot and got up to close to 2k and tried to cashout, they never paid me. But, weplant might have found a good place for him to personally play. After seeing how bad he has been doing on some other sites from his posts, it could be very refreshing to start winning. And as KK noted, it not listed as a rogue casino! If I personally only played at the casinos on the accredited list I would be broke and not be able to play online anymore. I have played at a few sites that are not accredited and done well. But, I guess we will see what happens with weplant and make our decision from there. I don't think it is very polite for people to flame or be mean to Weplant just because he chose to play somewhere that is under criticism. If it was actually in the rogue pit he would not have played there. :eek2: Just to clarify, the sites I have played on that are not accredited are the ones that have not yet been reviewed. i have only once recently played on a rogue site, and that was before seeing it was a rogue, and of they did not pay me LOL Anyways..

I had to edit my post because I wrote about having a bad experience on slots of fortune, but it was actually slots of vegas that had ripped me off.

WHOOPS! sorry pokerdan, I meant to reply to pinababy's post not yours..

No biggie, but weplant is a gal not a guy....I saw SOF on KK website and that is why I played there..I entered SOF into the search and saw that several people had a good experience there..

I don't know where you get off being so rude and insulting..your are not in my head and do not know what i am thinking..To suggest that I started that post as a way to thumb my nose at fellow player is way over the line..But, maybe that is how you think, maybe that is something you would do..

You are putting way too much thought into this..I was just happy to find a rival casino that I was able to make a payout and got paid quickly..NOTHING ELSE!! There was no hidden agenda behind it....I am sorry for the person that did not get paid..I would hate to see anyone (including yourself) be ripped off by a casino..

I am fairly new this online gambling and I have played at some good places and not so good. I am learning...But one thing I know for sure is that I would never intentionally try to hurt, insult or demean another person...Maybe you need to take a look inside yourself and realize we are not all out to get or hurt someone...

I thought maybe I should not post here anymore but then realized that is ridiculous, I was just trying to share something positive. Certainly not trying to upset anyone...

Thank you pokerdan for your kind words..:thumbsup:
 
Well, I believe this has gone on way past civility.

"Blood money", now come on, Pina. That's pretty out there IMHO. You might want to take a deep breath and think before you post. Words said are like cards laid, you can't take them back.

Just saying.
 
A while back, I decided (just like in this case) that anytime I post anything about a casino doing something right I will post a "disclaimer" that it is my personal experience. Now you know why. IMHO weplant just posted what she experienced. I thought this was a forum where you could post most anything and NOT get "tarred and feathered" . I guess I was wrong...and don't tell me about the good Rivals/Bad Rivals I've heard it ad naseum...we play, we don't play, we share experiences. Mt. Olympus can be a very lonely place. We mortals still have a lot to learn :rolleyes:
 
A while back, I decided (just like in this case) that anytime I post anything about a casino doing something right I will post a "disclaimer" that it is my personal experience. Now you know why. IMHO weplant just posted what she experienced. I thought this was a forum where you could post most anything and NOT get "tarred and feathered" . I guess I was wrong...and don't tell me about the good Rivals/Bad Rivals I've heard it ad naseum...we play, we don't play, we share experiences. Mt. Olympus can be a very lonely place. We mortals still have a lot to learn :rolleyes:

Thank you oldtrvlagt..I was just posting a experience..Maybe I should keep my thoughts to myself..:confused:
 
Well, I believe this has gone on way past civility.

"Blood money", now come on, Pina. That's pretty out there IMHO. You might want to take a deep breath and think before you post. Words said are like cards laid, you can't take them back.

Just saying.

I always think before I post...and I pretty much always mean what I say.

Nice support from everyone here for a fellow member who got screwed out of a tidy sum by a rogue casino. And any casino who takes the line that they have...is rogue, no two ways about it.

If it should happen to one of you in the future, and it very well could if you continue to play at white label Rivals...think about how you would feel if one of your fellow members then proceeded to start a thread highlighting their own positive experience at the very same casino that just cheated you.

Unfortunately, that's the problem with alot of people nowadays...they're don't care about the collective, but only about themselves. Just like Pokerdan said...who cares as long as they're having fun and getting paid, right? :rolleyes:

Nice attitude. I'll take my ignorant and rude self anyday, thanks.
 
I always think before I post...and I pretty much always mean what I say.

Nice support from everyone here for a fellow member who got screwed out of a tidy sum by a rogue casino. And any casino who takes the line that they have...is rogue, no two ways about it.

If it should happen to one of you in the future, and it very well could if you continue to play at white label Rivals...think about how you would feel if one of your fellow members then proceeded to start a thread highlighting their own positive experience at the very same casino that just cheated you.

Unfortunately, that's the problem with alot of people nowadays...they're don't care about the collective, but only about themselves. Just like Pokerdan said...who cares as long as they're having fun and getting paid, right? :rolleyes:

Nice attitude. I'll take my ignorant and rude self anyday, thanks.

I am so done with this...Time to get onto better things..I really don't know what your problem is, but I stand by what I have stated over and over...

I was NOT starting a thread to thumb my nose at another player...Nothing was on my mind or my agenda except, hey , I played at this casino for th e first time and won a little something and I got played quickly..That is it!!!

I am really sick of your comments and acqusations.
Online gambling is something I do for a little fun to help me get through some tough times in my life..Making friends here is just a bonus..

I hope this thread gets closed and everyone moves on...Gamble, win and have fun..most of all, be true to yourself...
 
Nice support from everyone here for a fellow member who got screwed out of a tidy sum by a rogue casino. And any casino who takes the line that they have...is rogue, no two ways about it.
There is more to that "fellow member" than meets the eye. I'm not making judgments or criticizing him, but 3 failed PABs give a bit of an indication that he may not be just a "recreational gambler". There is nothing wrong with that as long as he plays within the rules - in this particular case, he did not. The problem is, the rule he broke was fundamentally unfair and unreasonable.

I already helped pursued the casino to remove that term, and FYI I was on Skype to the SoF rep for an hour last night fighting Heador's case and trying to get a satisfactory resolution, even though he did not sign-up via my site.
They were "making the right noises" and though a final decision was not yet reached, I am cautiously optimistic.

I know for you own reasons you have a total hatred of everything Rival, but please take a step back a bit, take a deep breath and look again. They are no Virtual Group and not the devil incarnate! :p

KK

PS: Sorry again Weplant, for the derail. Please don't let a few negative posters stop you posting your good (or bad) experiences!
 
I always think before I post...and I pretty much always mean what I say.

Nice support from everyone here for a fellow member who got screwed out of a tidy sum by a rogue casino. And any casino who takes the line that they have...is rogue, no two ways about it.

If it should happen to one of you in the future, and it very well could if you continue to play at white label Rivals...think about how you would feel if one of your fellow members then proceeded to start a thread highlighting their own positive experience at the very same casino that just cheated you.

Unfortunately, that's the problem with alot of people nowadays...they're don't care about the collective, but only about themselves. Just like Pokerdan said...who cares as long as they're having fun and getting paid, right? :rolleyes:

Nice attitude. I'll take my ignorant and rude self anyday, thanks.



HAHA how true.. As I said.."As long as they are having AND GETTING PAID" It isn't fun if you don't get paid LMAO
 
There is more to that "fellow member" than meets the eye. I'm not making judgments or criticizing him, but 3 failed PABs give a bit of an indication that he may not be just a "recreational gambler". There is nothing wrong with that as long as he plays within the rules - in this particular case, he did not. The problem is, the rule he broke was fundamentally unfair and unreasonable.

I already helped pursued the casino to remove that term, and FYI I was on Skype to the SoF rep for an hour last night fighting Heador's case and trying to get a satisfactory resolution, even though he did not sign-up via my site.
They were "making the right noises" and though a final decision was not yet reached, I am cautiously optimistic.

I know for you own reasons you have a total hatred of everything Rival, but please take a step back a bit, take a deep breath and look again. They are no Virtual Group and not the devil incarnate! :p

KK

PS: Sorry again Weplant, for the derail. Please don't let a few negative posters stop you posting your good (or bad) experiences!
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I always think before I post...and I pretty much always mean what I say.

Nice support from everyone here for a fellow member who got screwed out of a tidy sum by a rogue casino. And any casino who takes the line that they have...is rogue, no two ways about it.

If it should happen to one of you in the future, and it very well could if you continue to play at white label Rivals...think about how you would feel if one of your fellow members then proceeded to start a thread highlighting their own positive experience at the very same casino that just cheated you.

Unfortunately, that's the problem with alot of people nowadays...they're don't care about the collective, but only about themselves. Just like Pokerdan said...who cares as long as they're having fun and getting paid, right? :rolleyes:

Nice attitude. I'll take my ignorant and rude self anyday, thanks.

I agree with what you're saying. But the bottom line is. People are gonna do what they want to regardless. As you stated the OP came here earlier asking questions about SOF. She did her homework and made the decision to deposit on her own. Even though SOF maybe in the rogue pit here by CM. To someone else SOF may not be. Just like 3dice is accredited here. But to some member they would not dare to deposit there. I do understand that CM will not take up a PAB from rogue casinos. But there are other sites that do. I for one play at Grand Prive casino. I know they are not recommended here and a few other places. But me personally never had an issue. But at the same token Inetbet is recommended here. And I've had issues where i wouldnt deposit with them any more.

You got to remember. To alot of us, It really isn't about the money. Its the thrill and the support of an addiction. If it was about the money. Why do we continue to deposit after losing and losing? Even when a rogue fail to pay us for any reason. We put up a fuss. But in the end we accept it and move on and deposit at another casino. Knowing fully what had happened at the prior casino.
 
Note that there are other complaints about SoF on the net. Just because every single complaint isnt posted here doesnt mean that they dont exist.
The most condemning fact against SoF was this IMO:

While the casino returned the 100 Euros he had deposited to play this time it says it will only return the other 200 Euros in deposits, as it had promised, if David signs a paper stating that he lied.

The form the casino is demanding David sign says he must:

"a. Resign from all claims.

"b. Inform any third parties that were contacted by him in regards with information provided by him was not valid and truthful.

"c. Shall not disclose any details of this agreement and settlement."

In short, in order to get back his own 200 Euros, David would have to write to Gambling Grumbles and tell us that he lied about Slots of Fortune and then never let anyone know that the casino demanded it.
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That is IMO even more roguish than just confiscating winnings with bogus reasoning. Shows the lack of ethics by the operator.

Plus any Rival white label that has been around for more than one year isnt to be taken seriously. I can somehow understand that at the beginning you choose to operate as a WL (E or if the CS and cashier is good which isnt the case with Rival) but if you arent able to make it as a standalone casino after one year I at least cant take you seriously.

And you cant compare Rival with lets say RTG. RTG doesnt run a white label farm. Its completely different to simply license the software than to basically run the whole show.
 
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Note that there are other complaints about SoF on the net. Just because every single complaint isnt posted here doesnt mean that they dont exist.
The most condemning fact against SoF was this IMO:

While the casino returned the 100 Euros he had deposited to play this time it says it will only return the other 200 Euros in deposits, as it had promised, if David signs a paper stating that he lied.

The form the casino is demanding David sign says he must:

"a. Resign from all claims.

"b. Inform any third parties that were contacted by him in regards with information provided by him was not valid and truthful.

"c. Shall not disclose any details of this agreement and settlement."

In short, in order to get back his own 200 Euros, David would have to write to Gambling Grumbles and tell us that he lied about Slots of Fortune and then never let anyone know that the casino demanded it.
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That is IMO even more roguish than just confiscating winnings with bogus reasoning. Shows the lack of ethics by the operator.

Plus any Rival white label that has been around for more than one year isnt to be taken seriously. I can somehow understand that at the beginning you choose to operate as a WL (E or if the CS and cashier is good which isnt the case with Rival) but if you arent able to make it as a standalone casino after one year I at least cant take you seriously.

And you cant compare Rival with lets say RTG. RTG doesnt run a white label farm. Its completely different to simply license the software than to basically run the whole show.

Absolutely agree Spider. The only way they would return the other 200 Euros is if he went and posted on all the forums that he had lied. When in fact, by the casino's own posts...he hadn't lied at all. He was offered bonuses, allowed to deposit, claim them and lose...even though the casino insisted he is a "known bonus abuser". Where WAS that famous Rival bonus banning system? And then to top it all off, he made large bets on SLOTS!! The cheek of him...imagine.

Yes, everyone should be in a huge hurry to send players to these crooks.

KK, maybe the guy is an advantage player...so what? He was offered the bonuses....repeatedly. And there was no problem while he was losing, only once he won. Same old, same old. If you accept his money, and his bets....pay him. The man played slots with a slot bonus. Jeezus!! Once he's paid, lock his account, do whatever you like with him. But the casino's response? Ask him to sign an NDA, and tell everyone he lied...when it's obvious he didn't. Ethics just ooze from these guys.

Spider is also right about the RTG/Rival thing. Like comparing apples and oranges. Recommending that anyone play at the Rival white labels is like recommending they play at one of the rogue RTG operations. I have no problem with the stand alone Rivals that actually treat their players properly, and don't share the Rival support and payment processing ie. owned by Rival. So direct players to Slotocash, or Box 24 or the other one. The RTG casinos/groups are stand alone operations as far as we know...and thus, have to be judged individually. The Rival white labels are merely different arms of the same octopus.
 
Tought of elaborating a bit on my view on white labels. Would Rival actually provide CS and processing of good quality then Ill could understand why someone would choose the WL solution in the long run. Edit: actually it could be good for many starting casinos to firstly go the WL route, maybe less failed "young" casinos? Assuming the WL solution is of good quality.

But currently both are far from even decent. At least to me it shows that the white labels arent in it for the long run. Just trying to get some easy bucks with minor efforts. The complete lack of ambition usually doesnt bode well in a highly competitive industry.
Are those the kind of casinos that you want to have your ultimate hot run at?

And whats with some that have opened a bunch of white labels? Trying to act like a real casino group?
 

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