Vegas Partner lounge casinos low RTP?

[Rusty]

I have posted before about VP lounge casinos being the tightest MG casinos I have played and have not played there for ages but since they were giving a 100% bonus I thought I would give them a spin.
Now is this a normal result?
I have had nothing like it at other MG casinos.

Game
Thunderstruck 2 (low variance 243 paylines).

Starting balance $40, flat bet 30c a spin.

The beginning.
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I took that after it seemed a while without hitting anything. As you can see over 50 spins in and not 1 winning spin(higher than bet size)
After a few more spins I hit 60c.

The middle.
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After around 180 spins I hit my first feature. I won 50c on the free spins.

After 200 pins I hit the free spins again.
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This time I won 95c.

The end

My last 50 spins returned 41 blank spins (243 lines ) and only 1 winning spin of X4 bet.

Total spins 323 and not a single lightning storm round.

Total return 59%

Thankfully it is just another small sample so we know the slot is in fact set at 97% and if only I had made another deposit...

 

[Rusty]

Just to confirm the bullshit I made another small deposit without a bonus.

I didn't hit the free spins but managed 1 bonus round that paid zero.
So 2 free spin round at x5 multiplier and 1 bonus round accumulated did not manage to return x5 my bet in total!

Second session returned 52%

That is what I call ripped off even if it is only pennies.

 

[slotjunkie]

Just to confirm the bullshit I made another small deposit without a bonus.

I didn't hit the free spins but managed 1 bonus round that paid zero.
So 2 free spin round at x5 multiplier and 1 bonus round accumulated did not manage to return x5 my bet in total!

Second session returned 52%

That is what I call ripped off even if it is only pennies.

This is the only Migrogaming Casino group I am still able to play at and I have made several deposits and only one bonus taken and never, ever, ever get any playtime and very few winning lines or free spins(that pay nothing)! I even sent an email concerning the very poor play and never got a response! I only kept depositing trying to see what all the hype is over Migrogaming Casinos, but I guess I will never know because they will NEVER get another penny!
I had the acct. for years, but never played online until a few months ago. So I have never experienced the "good ol' days" in online gaming! What I have experienced is what seems like scams and trickery! I just don't feel good about online gaming, something isn't right! I can walk in my land casinos with $20 and play forever most of the time and on several occasions I have walked out with $100's of dollars!

Totally agree, VEGAS PARTNER LOUNGE casinos are not a good place to play!

 

[Rusty]

This is the only Migrogaming Casino group I am still able to play at and I have made several deposits and only one bonus taken and never, ever, ever get any playtime and very few winning lines or free spins(that pay nothing)! I even sent an email concerning the very poor play and never got a response! I only kept depositing trying to see what all the hype is over Migrogaming Casinos, but I guess I will never know because they will NEVER get another penny!
I had the acct. for years, but never played online until a few months ago. So I have never experienced the "good ol' days" in online gaming! What I have experienced is what seems like scams and trickery! I just don't feel good about online gaming, something isn't right! I can walk in my land casinos with $20 and play forever most of the time and on several occasions I have walked out with $100's of dollars!

Totally agree, VEGAS PARTNER LOUNGE casinos are not a good place to play!

Yup, it can't be proven but I tried a different MG, same slot, and though I did not win it was much closer to what I would expect on returns.
I was going to try it in free play mode after to see how it played but unlike other MG casinos that option is not available - that should be a warning really.

I have absolutely no doubt that individual MG casinos can change the RTP of the slots and of course that opens up a whole can of worms so it is unlikely to be admitted any time soon.
At least there are still a couple of decent MG groups to choose from where you can get some play time on small deposits.

 

[slotjunkie]

Yup, it can't be proven but I tried a different MG, same slot, and though I did not win it was much closer to what I would expect on returns.
I was going to try it in free play mode after to see how it played but unlike other MG casinos that option is not available - that should be a warning really.

I have absolutely no doubt that individual MG casinos can change the RTP of the slots and of course that opens up a whole can of worms so it is unlikely to be admitted any time soon.
At least there are still a couple of decent MG groups to choose from where you can get some play time on small deposits.

Unfortunately not for me! And ur right the option of freeplay is not available and when I asked them about it they said "you played all your freeplay money and lost it all" !!! I have been giving them my money for free(no chance of winning) so I was still active on freeplay
WARNING for sure!!!!

 

[Nifty29]

I have absolutely no doubt that individual MG casinos can change the RTP of the slots and of course that opens up a whole can of worms so it is unlikely to be admitted any time soon.
At least there are still a couple of decent MG groups to choose from where you can get some play time on small deposits.

Bryan has stated more than once that MG slots RTP cannot be altered in any way once they are live......but Im sure you know that Rusty.

It never ceases to amaze me how you start these threads saying how the casinos are secretly changing payouts behind the scenes........and in the next breath you are saying you deposited again

If you really believe all these things you say - why are you still playing??? You either have more money than sense, or you're looking for someone else to blame for losing your money.

It's getting really old.

 

[slotjunkie]

Bryan has stated more than once that MG slots RTP cannot be altered in any way once they are live......but Im sure you know that Rusty.

It never ceases to amaze me how you start these threads saying how the casinos are secretly changing payouts behind the scenes........and in the next breath you are saying you deposited again

If you really believe all these things you say - why are you still playing??? You either have more money than sense, or you're looking for someone else to blame for losing your money.

It's getting really old.

That was pretty rude!

 

[all4greed]

That was pretty rude!

Oh he's just spreading infinite wisdom. Stay classy.

 

[maxd]

Oy! Don't drag this one down the crapper too! Chill guys, enough with the personal jabs, back on topic.

 

[Tengil]

While MG has deceived Bryan at least on one point before I dont see why the operators would have any need to have a lower RTP than 95%, the HA is still huge at that setting. So no we dont have any evidence that MG couldnt alter the RTP, but I dont see it as plausible either.

And what I have seen of Thunderstruck II I really cant see why anyone would call it low variance.

 

[Nifty29]

You either have more money than sense

It wasnt meant to be rude - I apologise if it came across that way.

I meant that maybe Rusty isnt that concerned about where he loses/spends his money - there is nothing rude about that, but I could have worded it differently I agree.

The main point is that Rusty, by stating the following:

I have absolutely no doubt that individual MG casinos can change the RTP of the slots

.....is inferring that Bryan/MG are deliberately being dishonest, given that it has been explicitly stated by Bryan that it is not possible - not that it isnt done - that it is not possible.

Rusty has absolutely no proof, concrete or otherwise, that the RTP can be changed - except for the fact he is losing.

He is not just stating an opinion, he is implying that Bryan is conspiring with MG to pull the wool over our eyes.

Have an opinion - sure - but dont point the finger without good reason and some factual basis. IMO, just losing isnt a good reason and to this point no hard facts have been produced to support the accusations/insinuations.

Most of the time I just sit back and say nothing, but I dont want newbies to come here and become convinced by some of the wild accusations that are being thrown around here lately....they deserve to hear the rational, evidence-based side of the argument.

 

[slotjunkie]

Oh he's just spreading infinite wisdom. Stay classy.

Call it what you want, but it was unnecessary! And I have been told often that I am a "Class Act!!" And that my dear is something you can't get from living on and through an online gambling forum

And if you do respond, just know that you are responding to air because I will not be revisiting this topic!