US political crisis

[lockinlove]

I would love to see the two wars end but I suspect that Trump is risking another ass ass ination attempt for even hinting that he would end the war in the Ukraine. Too many are getting rich from it.

Absolutely.

I dont get what people's issue is? Biden has ruined everything. The democrats have ruined everything from world peace, to the economy, to civility. People should be begging for a change. Anyone. Who cares if its Trump who says things that trigger you? You want to continue on this path to total destruction because you cant ignore his comments? Seriousy? Just crazy to me.

The establishment hates Trump. They want him dead and anyone with his values. He doesnt care about these people getting rich.

Millions of Ukrainians are dead. Bloodlines ended. Families destroyed.

Middle east in total chaos.

China closing in on invading Taiwan.

People need to get their head checked.

 

[geordiecolin]

Absolutely.

I dont get what people's issue is? Biden has ruined everything. The democrats have ruined everything from world peace, to the economy, to civility. People should be begging for a change. Anyone. Who cares if its Trump who says things that trigger you? You want to continue on this path to total destruction because you cant ignore his comments? Seriousy? Just crazy to me.

The establishment hates Trump. They want him dead and anyone with his values. He doesnt care about these people getting rich.

Millions of Ukrainians are dead. Bloodlines ended. Families destroyed.

Middle east in total chaos.

China closing in on invading Taiwan.

People need to get their head checked.

On the other hand Trump seems to be just as on continuing to support and fund Israel at a time when that money could be used in his own Country. And Israel have a stack of reserves of cash.

 

[lockinlove]

On the other hand Trump seems to be just as on continuing to support and fund Israel at a time when that money could be used in his own Country. And Israel have a stack of reserves of cash.

Trump is a huge supporter of Israel for sure. He does seem against any type of wars though so hopefully he would be useful in stopping all of them. Althought I think I saw somewhere he is in favor of Israel crushing them all..so who knows.

 

[geordiecolin]

Trump is a huge supporter of Israel for sure. He does seem against any type of wars though so hopefully he would be useful in stopping all of them. Althought I think I saw somewhere he is in favor of Israel crushing them all..so who knows.

His daughter his married to a jewish guy and there are rumours that he has converted too. I watched a clip of him mumbling over his words that may have been something like "Although I am not a Christian vote for me just one time"

 

[geordiecolin]

So what of the retaliation from Iran and the Lebanon to Israel's aggression? A bomb said to be a stray form their own defences that killed non Israelis on a sports field? Killing someone who was tasked in negotiating peace?
Will it kick off tonight and how bad will it be when/if it happens?
Both Iran and Israel have Nukes. Israel imprisoned
this guy

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about their Nuke program. No country has inspected them at all about them.
Who we can not critisize are who control the world

 

[ollygarch]

Putin was Trump's best friend. Look where that got us. He seemed to get along pretty well with Kim Jong Un. I'm hoping that it was all designed to get some headlines, but with Trump you can never tell.

 

[mack341]

His daughter his married to a jewish guy and there are rumours that he has converted too. I watched a clip of him mumbling over his words that may have been something like "Although I am not a Christian vote for me just one time"

I saw that clip, quite a few said it's his new york accent, and in fact was saying he is a Christian.

I think the thing about Trump is you can never be 100% sure of his view.

Hence when asked Putin said he'd prefer biden to stay as president for another term, trump is capable of being more unpredictable, could demand more concessions from Russia when it comes to negotiate an end to the Ukraine war, which will happen in trump's next term.

 

[Kroffe]

I know Trump said he would have it sorted in 24 hours, not sure how he would manage that.
Im guessing peace talks would look something like this.

Ukraine: Leave Ukraine
Russia: No

 

[geordiecolin]

I know Trump said he would have it sorted in 24 hours, not sure how he would manage that.
Im guessing peace talks would look something like this.

Ukraine: Leave Ukraine
Russia: No

I believe as soon as the election is over he would begin talks with both sides then once sworn in it would be sorted within 24 hours

 

[Kroffe]

I believe as soon as the election is over he would begin talks with both sides then once sworn in it would be sorted within 24 hours

How do you think he would accomplish that?
Do you think he would get Putin to back off or would he convince Ukraine to surrender?

 

[geordiecolin]

How do you think he would accomplish that?
Do you think he would get Putin to back off or would he convince Ukraine to surrender?

Sorry Kroffe but I am not party to his thoughts after I shagged his Mrs

 

[geordiecolin]

How do you think he would accomplish that?
Do you think he would get Putin to back off or would he convince Ukraine to surrender?

My guess is that he will Tell Zalenski that there will be no more funding-which is a big ponzi scheme and Russia that he was willing to lift sanctions in return for a negotiated settlement

 

[thr0b]

I saw that clip, quite a few said it's his new york accent, and in fact was saying he is a Christian.

I think the thing about Trump is you can never be 100% sure of his view.

Hence when asked Putin said he'd prefer biden to stay as president for another term, trump is capable of being more unpredictable, could demand more concessions from Russia when it comes to negotiate an end to the Ukraine war, which will happen in trump's next term.

I rather suspect Putin said he’d prefer Biden purely because Biden was quite predictable and relatively unpopular; much easier to use propaganda against that.

(Though Trump was also tanking in the approval toward the end of his term, which is why it’s all the more bizarre that they’re still considering him as a viable president.)

 

[lockinlove]

I find Kamala Harris pick of Tim Waltz to run as her VP to be absolutely wild.

That guy is everything the right/centrists despise.

He is extremely pro gender mutilation of children and puberty blockers.
replaced his own state flag with what looks like a somalian flag
stoked the BLM riots in his state which saw tens of millions of damage, death and despair.
Is a crimal who was charged and convicted of drinking and driving doing 95 mph in a 55 zone

Yet, I bet you democrats will still vote for this guy just because...it's their party.

Wild stuff.

 

[geordiecolin]

I find Kamala Harris pick of Tim Waltz to run as her VP to be absolutely wild.

That guy is everything the right/centrists despise.

He is extremely pro gender mutilation of children and puberty blockers.
replaced his own state flag with what looks like a somalian flag
stoked the BLM riots in his state which saw tens of millions of damage, death and despair.
Is a crimal who was charged and convicted of drinking and driving doing 95 mph in a 55 zone

Yet, I bet you democrats will still vote for this guy just because...it's their party.

Wild stuff.

Was he a pro defund the policer too? This looks like Gaza!

And George Floyd died of fentanyl poisoning,so why is that copper still in jail?

 

[mack341]

I find Kamala Harris pick of Tim Waltz to run as her VP to be absolutely wild.

That guy is everything the right/centrists despise.

He is extremely pro gender mutilation of children and puberty blockers.
replaced his own state flag with what looks like a somalian flag
stoked the BLM riots in his state which saw tens of millions of damage, death and despair.
Is a crimal who was charged and convicted of drinking and driving doing 95 mph in a 55 zone

Yet, I bet you democrats will still vote for this guy just because...it's their party.

Wild stuff.

Maybe he's the only one she asked who said yes, if you're part of a losing team then it might destroy your political future, leaving it stone dead.

I must admit to having never heard of him; unless the vote counters are the same ones as 2019 I can't see Harris winning.

 

[itsme123]

And George Floyd died of fentanyl poisoning,so why is that copper still in jail?

Really? Proof please?

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[geordiecolin]

Really? Proof please?

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[itsme123]

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That's your proof? He had Fentanyl so thats the cause of death? So no proof, one page from the autopsy...

 

[mack341]

Really? Proof please?

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So what did he die of, it certainly wasn't only from that cop's knee. Stress of being arrested, delay of the ambulance, drugs in his system must've all played a part as much or more than the knee. Imo

Edit: In fact it looked no more dangerous than the holds etc they use in fake wrestling.

 

[geordiecolin]

That's your proof? He had Fentanyl so thats the cause of death? So no proof, one page from the autopsy...

If his conviction was dependant on the outcome of that report do you really think he would be convicted ?

 

[itsme123]

So what did he die of, it certainly wasn't only from that cop's knee. Stress of being arrested, delay of the ambulance, drugs in his system must've all played a part as much or more than the knee. Imo

Just a well that your opinion doesnt count as much as a qualified professional coroner or the guilty party would have got off.
Why defend the indefensible? Murder is murder no matter who carries it out.

 

[lockinlove]

I can speak on this since I was a doctor for a decade and now and in admistration in hospitals in Ontario

11 ng/ml is an amount large enough to kill most people. As a matter of fact, we have lower doses than that where it usually takes a persons life.

In some of our medical information from the CDC where there is direct evidence this exact amount is the cause of death in people:

I would say without question George Floyd died from overdose

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[geordiecolin]

I can speak on this since I was a doctor for a decade and now and in admistration in hospitals in Ontario

11 ng/ml is an amount large enough to kill most people. As a matter of fact, we have lower doses than that where it usually takes a persons life.

In some of our medical information from the CDC where there is direct evidence this exact amount is the cause of death in people:

I would say without question George Floyd died from overdose

Marvelous. And I like the Justin Castro avatar.
BTW the reason why they called him Justin is because of his small wiener so I am told

 

[lockinlove]

Maybe he's the only one she asked who said yes, if you're part of a losing team then it might destroy your political future, leaving it stone dead.

I must admit to having never heard of him; unless the vote counters are the same ones as 2019 I can't see Harris winning.

Only reason why I know this guy is because Im extremely anti-puberty blockers/child tranistioning/mutilation and he is very pro.

Also, he let his city burn in the BLM riots and didnt even care and actually told cops to stand down and let them burn his city.


I remember him doing a live speech where he got up in the middle of it, took down his state flag and put up another countries flag.

He is an extremist of the worst kind.

 

[itsme123]

I can speak on this since I was a doctor for a decade and now and in admistration in hospitals in Ontario

11 ng/ml is an amount large enough to kill most people. As a matter of fact, we have lower doses than that where it usually takes a persons life.

In some of our medical information from the CDC where there is direct evidence this exact amount is the cause of death in people:

I would say without question George Floyd died from overdose

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Just a pity the defence didnt have your superior knowledge to call on or maybe the murderer might have got off.
I prefer to believe the coroner in this one as it was his autopsy and evidence that counted in the case, not the opinion of some ex doctor from Ontario.

 

[mack341]

Just a well that your opinion doesnt count as much as a qualified professional coroner or the guilty party would have got off.
Why defend the indefensible? Murder is murder no matter who carries it out.

You always try to have a personal dig don't you ccncas?

The cops knew they were being filmed by members of the public, hard to believe they'd then knowingly act in a deadly way. That would be murder, the intention to take a life.

 

[geordiecolin]

You always try to have a personal dig don't you ccncas?

The cops knew they were being filmed by members of the public, hard to believe they'd then knowingly act in a deadly way. That would be murder, the intention to take a life.

Ahhh, that's who he is. Still not destressed from the covid days I see

 

[itsme123]

You always try to have a personal dig don't you ccncas?

The cops knew they were being filmed by members of the public, hard to believe they'd then knowingly act in a deadly way. That would be murder, the intention to take a life.

How am I having a personal dig? Merely stating the fact that in the autopsy report Fentanyl isnt a cause of death, and I am pretty sure if its so obvious that it was the cause of death the defence would have had an expert tear the autopsy apart.
Thats why I prefer the opinion of the experts rather than someone who didnt actually carry out the autopsy and who is proferring their own opinion, whether they be an ex Doctor or not.

 

[thr0b]

So what did he die of, it certainly wasn't only from that cop's knee. Stress of being arrested, delay of the ambulance, drugs in his system must've all played a part as much or more than the knee. Imo

Edit: In fact it looked no more dangerous than the holds etc they use in fake wrestling.

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Floyd received two different autopsies after his death. The Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office released its autopsy on June 3, 2020. It found that Floyd died of "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." In more standard English, he died of heart and lung failure caused by the way police restrained and subdued him.

Floyd's family asked experts to conduct an independent autopsy around the same time. While the full report is not available publicly, the summary is. It said he died from "asphyxiation from sustained pressure."

 

[itsme123]

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Can't be right, it doesnt say it was Fentanyl..... Pesky left wing media...

 

[mack341]

How am I having a personal dig? Merely stating the fact that in the autopsy report Fentanyl isnt a cause of death, and I am pretty sure if its so obvious that it was the cause of death the defence would have had an expert tear the autopsy apart.
Thats why I prefer the opinion of the experts rather than someone who didnt actually carry out the autopsy and who is proferring their own opinion, whether they be an ex Doctor or not.

It's a forum, and bleeding obvious I'm giving a layman's opinion not a professionally qualified medical one. (But then when another member is and does, it's ex doctor)

I may as well challenge all your opinions re Trump, well he's the republican party candidate and former president of the united states and you're some bloke from NI, so who knows best on how to govern a huge country etc..

I don't though, knowing it would be a silly dig.

 

[itsme123]

It's a forum, and bleeding obvious I'm giving a layman's opinion not a professionally qualified medical one. (But then when another member is and does, it's ex doctor)

I may as well challenge all your opinions re Trump, well he's the republican party candidate and former president of the united states and you're some bloke from NI, so who knows best on how to govern a huge country etc..

I don't though, knowing it would be a silly dig.

Dont fret, I wouldnt consider that a dig....

 

[geordiecolin]

Fact checkers are political spin machines for brainwashing the gullible

 

[itsme123]

Fact checkers are political spin machines for brainwashing the gullible

"My truth is better than your truth". Now where have i seen that before.
Better fact checker than someone who sticks anything they want on the net with no proof, no evidence, no research and nothing to back it up with that the claim is the " real truth"....

 

[lockinlove]

So what did he die of, it certainly wasn't only from that cop's knee. Stress of being arrested, delay of the ambulance, drugs in his system must've all played a part as much or more than the knee. Imo

Edit: In fact it looked no more dangerous than the holds etc they use in fake wrestling.

Here is the full article for people to read as usual the above democrats left out most of the important information. Always so convenient huh?

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from Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office concludes the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." That conclusion, death due to heart failure, differs from the one reached by an independent examiner hired by the Floyd family; that report listed the cause of death as "asphyxiation from sustained pressure."


"In addition to fentanyl and methamphetamine, the toxicology report from the autopsy showed that Floyd also had cannabinoids in his system when he died."

11ng/ml is a deadly dose. Sorry kids, its in all medical journals.

He also had hypertensive heart disease which means the heart is larger than most people which needs more oxygen. George floyd tested positive for covid 19 after his death too.



Deadly dose of fentanyl
marijuana
methamphatimines
severe heart disease
covid 19
Stress of being arrested.

But guys it had nothing to do with the above! It was the cops knee that killed him! He was perfectly healthy!

So take your pick really. Democrats try to say he died because he was restrained improperly. That clearly is not the case as medical reports suggest.

So add it all together, George Floyd died from his own lifestyle and the police officer fell victim to a politically motived agenda. They double downed and convicted him before the above was released. Cant walk that back huh? CNN ended up having to walk it back after all their race baiting. They went from 24 hour coverage nonstop saying a white cop killed an innocent black man. To admitting fetanyl and heart disease were contributors.

 

[lockinlove]

You always try to have a personal dig don't you ccncas?

The cops knew they were being filmed by members of the public, hard to believe they'd then knowingly act in a deadly way. That would be murder, the intention to take a life.

Its what they do when they know they are wrong. They are furious they were duped into believing some trash and lash out at the people who show them they are wrong. Ah well carry on I suppose. What do I know im just some ex-doctor

Look at them in here. There were 6 extreme causes of his death that had nothing to do with a cop putting a knee on him. Guess which one they choose even though he was a very sick, drugged up person? The knee. Just crazy they let the media use them like that to push their propaganda.

Imagine burning down businesses, beating up old white people, burning cars and attacking white people only to find out you were most likely used? And then the heads of BLM stole all the money and bought themselves mansions and cars afterwards

Would be hard for me to admit I was a sucker too

 

[geordiecolin]

"My truth is better than your truth". Now where have i seen that before.
Better fact checker than someone who sticks anything they want on the net with no proof, no evidence, no research and nothing to back it up with that the claim is the " real truth"....

Calm down ccncas, it will not be good for your health.
In a world where websites rely on advertising most fact checkers do very little on non of it. Why is that? because they are funded by persons of interest who like to control what information people receive.
Snopes is funded by Facebook amongst others.
We have been here before years ago so your highly unlikely to change your view on the matter now.

 

[geordiecolin]

Here is the full article for people to read as usual the above democrats left out most of the important information. Always so convenient huh?

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from Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office concludes the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." That conclusion, death due to heart failure, differs from the one reached by an independent examiner hired by the Floyd family; that report listed the cause of death as "asphyxiation from sustained pressure."


"In addition to fentanyl and methamphetamine, the toxicology report from the autopsy showed that Floyd also had cannabinoids in his system when he died."

11ng/ml is a deadly dose. Sorry kids, its in all medical journals.

He also had hypertensive heart disease which means the heart is larger than most people which needs more oxygen. George floyd tested positive for covid 19 after his death too.



Deadly dose of fentanyl
marijuana
methamphatimines
severe heart disease
covid 19
Stress of being arrested.

But guys it had nothing to do with the above! It was the cops knee that killed him! He was perfectly healthy!

So take your pick really. Democrats try to say he died because he was restrained improperly. That clearly is not the case as medical reports suggest.

So add it all together, George Floyd died from his own lifestyle and the police officer fell victim to a politically motived agenda. They double downed and convicted him before the above was released. Cant walk that back huh? CNN ended up having to walk it back after all their race baiting. They went from 24 hour coverage nonstop saying a white cop killed an innocent black man. To admitting fetanyl and heart disease were contributors.

Don't get me wrong, I was just as appalled as most people about how aggressive they where to him. Once he was down they could have been a lot less so.
But time and facts showed the true picture

 

[lockinlove]

Harris VP is a real special one.

He has ordered that all boy bathrooms be filled with tampons from the ages of 11 and up.

This is some seriously sick and deranged stuff going on in the democratic party.

Also, his wife during the BLM riots stated on video "I could smell the tires burning. I opened my windows to take it in. It was a touchstone moment".

His daughter then leaked national guard plans to BLM rioters so they could escape arrests.

Approves of calling convicted pedophiles "attracted minor people" instead of pedophiles because it's too offensive to child rapists.

This party has totally lost its way. Total insane and crazy and yet some of their base just continues to humm "orangee mannn baddd must vote democrat".


One of the most insane radical families in the USA and Kamala chose him? Absolute insanity.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Trump is losing it. Like, actually losing it.

Those who know him predicted this would happen once the polls started to shift and it looked like he'd be a potential loser come the election, i.e. he'd start to lose the plot and go more and more into crazy mode.

This is what sociopathic narcissists do when their very fragile ideation of their 'self' is threatened, they have no way to cope with it.

 

[ollygarch]

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I'm glad you are no longer a doctor, otherwise you would be over/under prescribing left right and centre. FACT check your maths you dummy. A fatal dose of fentanyl needs to be at least 2mg and the average adult has around 5litres of blood. That's 400ng/ml, way more than 11 you might agree.

 

[ollygarch]

Before I get shot down in flames for assuming all the fentanyl ended in the blood you can refer to

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and scroll down to table 1. The 'natural' causes of death were from mainly other diseases and yet these people were happily going about their daily lives with an average of 11.8ng/ml fentanyl in their blood. So this concentration is what you would expect for someone using patches or low level drug abuse. Even with the 'accidental' group with more than double the concentration at 26.4ng/ml only 3 out of 40 were determined to have definitely died from fentanyl, the majority had died from a cocktail of drugs which included fentanyl.

 

[geordiecolin]

I'm glad you are no longer a doctor, otherwise you would be over/under prescribing left right and centre. FACT check your maths you dummy. A fatal dose of fentanyl needs to be at least 2mg and the average adult has around 5litres of blood. That's 400ng/ml, way more than 11 you might agree.

Oh dear. It feels as if I have been targeted by a cock eyed sniper

 

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[ChopleyIOM]

Scaramucci served in The White House under Trump. He's a lifelong Republican. His opinion is that Trump is a dangerous menace who must not become President of the USA again.

He's been calling this electoral cycle correctly all along, including stating that Biden would step down even when everyone else was insisting he'd stay.

He was already of the opinion that Harris would beat Trump, he thinks Walz will seal the deal.

Moreover, he predicted Trump's slide back into personal abuse and craziness as soon as his poll numbers started to turn.

 

[ollygarch]

Considering the bile on all sides that surrounds US politics at the moment these comments from Scaramucci are pretty mild. What really needs to happen is for at least one well known Republican to stand against Trump as an Independent, bleed off his vote - just a few percent should be enough - , and guarantee that Kamala get elected.

 

[thr0b]

Considering the bile on all sides that surrounds US politics at the moment these comments from Scaramucci are pretty mild. What really needs to happen is for at least one well known Republican to stand against Trump as an Independent, bleed off his vote - just a few percent should be enough - , and guarantee that Kamala get elected.

They won’t do it though. They’re all too self-serving. Even the never-Trumps have fallen in line. It’s a cult that sucks everyone in their orbit in.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Another normal day in Trump World.

Watching him lose in November will be delicious.

Walz is a great choice for VP, gives the Democrats a really broad ticket, a fantastic counter to increasingly unhinged Trump and whatever Vance is supposed to be.