US political crisis

[mack341]

Edit: Sorry this is a reply to Chop, to save any confusion.

So Trump's all those bad things, Nigel too, but despite all that millions of nice people (the sort that would help a blind person cross the road etc) like them to some degree, and are looking to them to fix some of our problems.

But then you probably don't recognise or admit any of these problems exist!

But if they do, they pale into insignificance compared to mis-gendering or any pc violations.

I would probably prefer Rfk jr over Trump in some areas, but then he's probably also burdened by a load of labels from the left/centre that love bill gates and fauci

 

[Webzcas]

I disagree, Farage may well be many things, but I argue a Sociopath he most certainly is not.

 

[mack341]

I disagree, Farage may well be many things, but I argue a Sociopath he most certainly is not.

Sorry I meant that post as a reply to Chop.

Just on that though, would bojo fit those criteria?

 

[Webzcas]

Boris a Sociopath? Hmm, doesn't strike me as one to be honest. I mean he has got a sense of humour. I wouldn't necessarily class him as being a coercive individual. A habitual liar, yes. But I don't think he ticks all the boxes IMO.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

100% and any reasonable person will realise this is not even up for debate. In fact he fits the MO of a Sociopath.

Does Trump tick these boxes ?

Key characteristics of a Sociopath include:

1. Disregard for right and wrong
2. Persistent lying or deceit to exploit others
3. Lack of empathy for others
4. Using charm or wit to manipulate others
5. Recurring problems with the law
6. Repeatedly violating the rights of others
7. Lack of remorse for actions
8. Impulsiveness or failure to plan ahead
9. Aggressiveness or irritability

I'd say every single one he does.

If you haven't seen it already, I'd really recommend a documentary called 'UNFIT' about Trump. He's a thoroughly dangerous man.

Generally speaking it's not considered appropriate to diagnose people without having spent time with them in one-on-one therapy sessions and suchlike. However when it comes to conditions such as sociopathy and narcissism, it can be a disadvantage because those sorts of people are naturally so good at deception and misdirection in such scenarios, and are capable of being extremely charming.

In Trump's case there's now so much history of him 'on record' as it were, that many mental health professionals feel entirely confident in labelling Trump as a narcissistic sociopath, and specifically the malignant variety - which is extra dangerous.

It's hard to overstate how much we really don't want this guy with his hands on the levers of power again.

 

[lockinlove]

I’ve asked you which of Trump’s specific policies you support and the details on how he will address them. Your response was merely pointing out the issues you perceive need to be addressed, and nothing more than his talking points.

I’ve asked you for specific sources of where you get your news from and you only suggest a broad Google search. I also have no idea who you are talking to on Zoom and phone.

I’m having a hard time separating all this from the brainwashed Trump cultists. Just a general lack of detail on how any of this will be addressed, and any substance behind your claims.

My views are generally right of centre, and I agree with some of what you have posted (although not as aggressively). But I can see that Trump is wrong for the country and world and I could never support someone like that.

Why do I need to provide you with information on how to look things up? I dont need to defend my stance.


If you agree with some of what I have posted, please let me know which stances. Any you disagree with, then refute them and we can go from there.

Close the borders. Self explanatory. Pass laws to stop transitioning children. Self explanatory. Stop insane inflation. Go back to his prior energy policies that Biden erased.

Not as aggressive or more aggressive by calling trump supporters brainwashed cultists?

 

[lockinlove]

Edit: Sorry this is a reply to Chop, to save any confusion.

So Trump's all those bad things, Nigel too, but despite all that millions of nice people (the sort that would help a blind person cross the road etc) like them to some degree, and are looking to them to fix some of our problems.

But then you probably don't recognise or admit any of these problems exist!

But if they do, they pale into insignificance compared to mis-gendering or any pc violations.

I would probably prefer Rfk jr over Trump in some areas, but then he's probably also burdened by a load of labels from the left/centre that love bill gates and fauci

Its mostly just drivel. Trump is a couple of those things on that silly list but its just someone listening to soundbytes and nothing more.

A lot of politicians have faults.

Trudeau a dictator
Bush War mongrel
Obama race baiter
Pence Weird
Trump Narcissist, semi-shady businessman

Biden liar and racist Can all be found here

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I wouldnt really call being racist a fault though, its pretty dispicable. And you can pretty much put liar beside all their names too.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Meanwhile MAGA is turning on their posterboy Kyle Rittenhouse after he posted a video saying he can only vote for someone completely un-compromisable on the 2nd amendment.

Catturd had a complete implosion.

It's not the bestest of weeks for Trump, is it?

 

[nisosbar]

Meanwhile MAGA is turning on their posterboy Kyle Rittenhouse after he posted a video saying he can only vote for someone completely un-compromisable on the 2nd amendment.

Catturd had a complete implosion.

It's not the bestest of weeks for Trump, is it?

Can you explain what you mean by this? I know who Kyle Rittenhouse is, but I don't understand what you mean that MAGA is turning on him. .... And who is Catturd...? Thanks in advance.

 

[nisosbar]

What's racist about that, he's just saying the guys you've been giving permission to run casinos in the native american areas don't look very indian.

So perhaps you're being had or you're on the take.

In addition to which since that time (in the video), we now have corporate HR departments which are keeping track of numbers/percentages of employees who are minority, discriminating on the basis of race, ethnicity and other kinds of protected class distinctions. It's only a matter of time before the Supreme Court rules that these practices are illegal racist discrimination, just as they have done with university admission practices.

The Establishment has money, power and media to do anything it wants, it can call the Earth "Sky" and the sky "dirt" and actually get ordinary people to start believing it, but people with critical thinking skills and integrity will never concede to a lie.

 

[mack341]

Boris a Sociopath? Hmm, doesn't strike me as one to be honest. I mean he has got a sense of humour. I wouldn't necessarily class him as being a coercive individual. A habitual liar, yes. But I don't think he ticks all the boxes IMO.

I reckon he must tick 6 or 7, but I guess there are still varying degrees of transgression.

 

[lockinlove]

Can you explain what you mean by this? I know who Kyle Rittenhouse is, but I don't understand what you mean that MAGA is turning on him. .... And who is Catturd...? Thanks in advance.

Trump and his base basically saved the kid. He had no money for lawyers or anything and they rallied behind him and donated a tonne of money. Trump and many of his friends help give him a platform. He even brought him to the whitehouse.. so the Trumpers and center rights are furious that he used his 1.2 million followers to basically vote and promote for someone else who will never win (taking votes from Trump) after everything they did for him

 

[lockinlove]

Meanwhile MAGA is turning on their posterboy Kyle Rittenhouse after he posted a video saying he can only vote for someone completely un-compromisable on the 2nd amendment.

Catturd had a complete implosion.

It's not the bestest of weeks for Trump, is it?

All he had to do was remain calm and not be dramatic and I think he would have sailed to a win. But in reality, he is his worst enemy. He cannot help himself.

Black jobs? Why even say that? I get what he means but the people who just catch the soundbyte will be like wtf did he just say. Then starting with race crap (agressively.) with Kamala. He cant just address it and say "well I dunno in 2020 she ran on being an Indian and now she is using races to get their votes and now claiming to be black without mentioning her Indian roots" and move on.

Add to that "ive done more for blacks than anybody. I love the blacks. Ive done more than anyone" Narcissim. No need to prop himself up so aggressive. All it would take is for him to calmy explain all the stuff he did for the black community and move on. Instead, he goes a bit unhinged.

He has his base already. They are loyal. He is trying to appeal to the center and center left. They don't really like the unhinged, aggressive stuff.


Lucky for Trump Kamala shoots herself in the foot too so he may still be able to pull it off.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Ooooooh, a plot-twist!

 

[lockinlove]

Yeah the guy took an insane amount of heat. If he didnt back pedal like that, he would be done. I looked at twitter today and all I saw was tens of thousands of furious righties about it. Not just his base but actually well respected businessmen, celebs, politicians and businesses asking him wtf he is doing.

Typical 20 year old saying/doing dumb shit and tweeting it out there before thinking twice.

 

[Kroffe]

Sounds so sincere.
Turns out the opinion i thought i had was actually not my real opinion, after Trumps team told me what my real opinion was im now 100% sure that Trump is the man to vote for.
Go Trump, yey.

 

[mack341]

It's touching he was going to vote Ron Paul, not surprised as he's a nice old guy.

I remember watching Kyle's trial, I didn't know he had a 1.2 m twitter following.

He's had to grow up quickly in a way, not sure he quite understands how the way things work in the adult world to the degree he's expected to realise - if that makes sense.

Expecting a reaction is perhaps not his strongest developed attribute, as history kind of proved, although he came through that one as well in the end.

 

[Kroffe]

Yeah its pretty clear why he walked it back, but at the same time its pretty clear that his new damage-control opinion is not his actual opinion.
So in that sense the damage is already done.

But on the other hand i assume most of his followers were going to and still are going to vote for Trump.
I know they are called influencers but i doubt many people would change their vote just because of what some guy on twitter said.

 

[lockinlove]

Yup was a huge flip flop and doesnt look to great on him. He might get the benefit of the doubt since he's a "kid"

I feel the same, I dont think many would change their vote because of him especially browsing the comments. It was just a good ol fashion pitch fork party

Not a great week for republicans at all. They should have been building off all the emotions and hype of Trump avoiding assassination and his bad assery of getting up after being shot and yelling fight. But instead, they have acted like a bunch of wild hyenas and have made things seem super toxic.

 

[lockinlove]

Dont sing Merry Christmas around Kamala. She might have a meltdown

 

[ollygarch]

He did attempt to take on Big Tech last time round and didn't make notable headway, so if he were to get elected, I think he'd get next to nowhere with Big Pharma in any realistic sense!

Whereas Big Oil will get their reward for supporting his campaign with state handouts. The entire US political system is corrupt, not just Trump.

 

[geordiecolin]

Whereas Big Oil will get their reward for supporting his campaign with state handouts. The entire US political system is corrupt, not just Trump.

And while they all expect us little people to adjust and pay for the cost of climate change and zero emissions they know that the world is dependant on oil and gas. So much so that they have already negotiated contracts for the trillions of $'s of oil sitting off the coast of Gaza with the likes of the USA and UK.
Both sides in America are fully in support of Israel while if my daughters and their friends are anything to go the young will struggle to support either side because of it.

 

[itsme123]

And while they all expect us little people to adjust and pay for the cost of climate change and zero emissions they know that the world is dependant on oil and gas. So much so that they have already negotiated contracts for the trillions of $'s of oil sitting off the coast of Gaza with the likes of the USA and UK.
Both sides in America are fully in support of Israel while if my daughters and their friends are anything to go the young will struggle to support either side because of it.

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[geordiecolin]

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Of course fact checkers will dispute his words but it is true that there is no evidence that he said them. This guy claims to have witnessed it in Finks Bar in Tel Aviv owned by the Rothschilds.. There was video evidence but it was scrubbed from the internet.
But would anyone really say that publicly about their golden calf? Who knows but it does tie in with how his country dominates America

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Of course fact checkers will dispute his words but it is true that there is no evidence that he said them. This guy claims to have witnessed it in Finks Bar in Tel Aviv owned by the Rothschilds.. There was video evidence but it was scrubbed from the internet.
But would anyone really say that publicly about their golden calf? Who knows but it does tie in with how his country dominates America

So we're literally at 'a bloke in the pub told me that a bloke in his pub had said it'.

I for one am convinced of the veracity of this information.

 

[geordiecolin]

So we're literally at 'a bloke in the pub told me that a bloke in his pub had said it'.

I for one am convinced of the veracity of this information.

Fair enough. 1 point to you

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Fair enough. 1 point to you

I will spend my point on Bonanza, hit G-O-L-D and then land the mythical 14,000x bonus round, or whatever it was that BTG made up for that competition.

 

[geordiecolin]

I will spend my point on Bonanza, hit G-O-L-D and then land the mythical 14,000x bonus round, or whatever it was that BTG made up for that competition.

Competition? Where?
* Col rushes off to check the threads

 

[satchnz]

Why do I need to provide you with information on how to look things up? I dont need to defend my stance.


If you agree with some of what I have posted, please let me know which stances. Any you disagree with, then refute them and we can go from there.

Close the borders. Self explanatory. Pass laws to stop transitioning children. Self explanatory. Stop insane inflation. Go back to his prior energy policies that Biden erased.

Not as aggressive or more aggressive by calling trump supporters brainwashed cultists?

Yep well this post confirmed what I suspected. Sad.

 

[geordiecolin]

That warmonger Lindsey Graham introduces a resolution to send troop's to war again Iran. How much is he in the pockets of the miltary complex and or what shit do they have on him? He wants WW3

 

[geordiecolin]

I can't help find the weekly offering from this channel quite amusing. I understood that the LGBTQ sect where mostly none religious. And I have no issues with people wanting to live their lives as whatever they want. Its the madness of the extremes of it

 

[lockinlove]

Yep well this post confirmed what I suspected. Sad.

Figured as much. Move along

 

[lockinlove]

Once Biden introduced his energy policy. 27% in food increase. 25% increase in fuel, 20% increase in housing. 30% increase in rent.

50 billion increase in credit card debt in the USA at the end of last year alone. 12 billion increase in auto loans.

record 17.3 trillion in househoold debt



Unemployment rose to 4.3% highest in 3 years.

Orange man says mean things so lets just vote to destroy our economy and finances instead

 

[lockinlove]

That warmonger Lindsey Graham introduces a resolution to send troop's to war again Iran. How much is he in the pockets of the miltary complex and or what shit do they have on him? He wants WW3

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Its absurd. Biden basically gave Iran 50 billion dollars. Which is being used to fund wars and target Israeli's and Americans. Yeah now lets send troops there.

What a bunch of meatballs.

 

[slotmaster]

Once Biden introduced his energy policy. 27% in food increase. 25% increase in fuel, 20% increase in housing. 30% increase in rent.

50 billion increase in credit card debt in the USA at the end of last year alone. 12 billion increase in auto loans.

record 17.3 trillion in househoold debt



Unemployment rose to 4.3% highest in 3 years.

Orange man says mean things so lets just vote to destroy our economy and finances instead

No better here when nobody cared to vote or just voted Trudeau so we got 4 more years of Trudeau even after everyone was warned what was happening and was going to happen.

 

[lockinlove]

No better here when nobody cared to vote or just voted Trudeau so we got 4 more years of Trudeau even after everyone was warned what was happening and was going to happen.

The problem here is Trudeau has bought voters. He brought in so many immigrants and put them in important voting areas that its very hard to get rid of liberals now.

Biden and Trudeau have the same policies. It just goes to show leftist policies are incredibly damaging to countries.

But his policies are so horrific even the immigrants he brought over are even voting against him lol.

We still have 15 months of Trudeau and his policies. And even though they are getting destroyed all over, he refuses to step down. The guy is a lunatic dictator. Think of the damage that will be done in the next 15 months? I dont think it will be reversible for decades.

 

[geordiecolin]

Its absurd. Biden basically gave Iran 50 billion dollars. Which is being used to fund wars and target Israeli's and Americans. Yeah now lets send troops there.

What a bunch of meatballs.

I could add so much but I will come back to this when I am not slotting

 

[geordiecolin]

Its absurd. Biden basically gave Iran 50 billion dollars. Which is being used to fund wars and target Israeli's and Americans. Yeah now lets send troops there.

What a bunch of meatballs.

One thing I have issue with is the Israeli issue. Israel are vile.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Israel are vile.

Yes, yes they are. But so are Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda and all those that are attacking Israel/defending themselves from Israel (whichever way you want to see it).

I wish it was as easy as telling one of the parties to "quit it" and the whole mess in the Middle East would be fixed, but alas.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I see Trump was right on form last night in Atlanta, as has already been noted by others in this thread, he has no answers to anything, he's just a greivance-fuelled hate machine.

At one point he got so bad that even Fox News cut away from him - 'The former President there turning to some of his familiar themes'.

He found time to congratulate Vladimir Putin on the hostage/prisoner swap though.

Also, his speech is glitching out quite regularly now, getting words wrong, completely mispronouncing them, skipping past them in sentences. He's the old man in this race now, and he looks it.

Oh yes and there was a big moan about empty seats in the venue, which Harris had managed to fill for her rally. Trump blamed the school authorities and belly-ached about it like the world's biggest toddler having a tantrum.

I await with interest to see what the travelling fascist circus show clown conjures up at his next show, as his polls continue to slip.

 

[geordiecolin]

I see Trump was right on form last night in Atlanta, as has already been noted by others in this thread, he has no answers to anything, he's just a greivance-fuelled hate machine.

At one point he got so bad that even Fox News cut away from him - 'The former President there turning to some of his familiar themes'.

He found time to congratulate Vladimir Putin on the hostage/prisoner swap though.

Also, his speech is glitching out quite regularly now, getting words wrong, completely mispronouncing them, skipping past them in sentences. He's the old man in this race now, and he looks it.

Oh yes and there was a big moan about empty seats in the venue, which Harris had managed to fill for her rally. Trump blamed the school authorities and belly-ached about it like the world's biggest toddler having a tantrum.

I await with interest to see what the travelling fascist circus show clown conjures up at his next show, as his polls continue to slip.

I recall 4 short years ago I was accused of ageism and being deluded when I pointed out Biden's mental abilities and that he would be replaced before the next election.
Funny how age is being used as reason to attack Trump now despite him using a prompter as a reminder of his bullet ( SORRY) points which most sensible people would use during an hour plus address

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I recall 4 short years ago I was accused of ageism and being deluded when I pointed out Biden's mental abilities and that he would be replaced before the next election.
Funny how age is being used as reason to attack Trump now despite him using a prompter as a reminder of his bullet ( SORRY) points which most sensible people would use during an hour plus address

It's a legitimate concern, back in February I was calling Biden a 'doddery old man' who had 'no business running again'.

You only need to look at 2020 Biden versus 2024 Biden to see he's not the same man, he's clearly declined in that time and IMO it was reckless for the Democrats to even countenance him running again, but in the end he's done the right thing and withdrawn, albeit with an awful lot of pushing!

Trump is visibly declining too, which is fine in and of itself, he's 78 years old, shit happens as we age, I'm acutely aware of some of the things my body and mind can't do as well at 50, as they did at 40, or 30

When I watch Trump's speeches, I see a hateful old man who's swirling into a smaller and smaller void of his own manifest character flaws, a man who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the role of being the most powerful man in the world.

I'd still choose Biden over Trump though.

 

[The Dude]

I can't help find the weekly offering from this channel quite amusing. I understood that the LGBTQ sect where mostly none religious. And I have no issues with people wanting to live their lives as whatever they want. Its the madness of the extremes of it

Thank you - that was absolutely hilarious - especially the "Asian" dude - and the aBrain PSA.

But here is a shout-out to all: CAN WE PLEASE USE LANDSCAPE MODE WHEN FILMING WITH A PHONE?!Geezus, how hard is it to turn your phone sideways?? You don't lie on the floor and watch your TV sideways. Quit being so damn lazy, people. Portraits are for portraits - landscape mode is for FILMING.

If the shoe fits, wear it.

/end old man rant

Gonna check my ancestory.com DNA results to see what percentage I am of Chinese.

 

[ollygarch]

The problem here is Trudeau has bought voters. He brought in so many immigrants and put them in important voting areas that its very hard to get rid of liberals now.

Biden and Trudeau have the same policies. It just goes to show leftist policies are incredibly damaging to countries.

But his policies are so horrific even the immigrants he brought over are even voting against him lol.

We still have 15 months of Trudeau and his policies. And even though they are getting destroyed all over, he refuses to step down. The guy is a lunatic dictator. Think of the damage that will be done in the next 15 months? I dont think it will be reversible for decades.

'Lunatic Dictator' sounds like a clone of Trump. Americans would do well to look North, see what is happening there, and vote Harris. Sadly my view on the intellectual capability of the average American is pretty low, along with Brits might I say before being accused of racial bias. After all we voted for Brexit, but that is another story.

 

[geordiecolin]

'Lunatic Dictator' sounds like a clone of Trump. Americans would do well to look North, see what is happening there, and vote Harris. Sadly my view on the intellectual capability of the average American is pretty low, along with Brits might I say before being accused of racial bias. After all we voted for Brexit, but that is another story.

Europe acting like a very bitter divorcee and aggrieved politicians and bureaucrats made it as hard as possible for the UK to transition. The UK should have declared our pronouns as Cis/her to get an easier ride

 

[mack341]

Times cartoon yesterday

 

[lockinlove]

'Lunatic Dictator' sounds like a clone of Trump. Americans would do well to look North, see what is happening there, and vote Harris. Sadly my view on the intellectual capability of the average American is pretty low, along with Brits might I say before being accused of racial bias. After all we voted for Brexit, but that is another story.

Nah thats just media talking points. He was in office already for 4 years. No signs of dictatorism. Trudeau however, closed Canadian bank accounts, shut down peaceful protests, blocks us from reading news, pays the news outlets here. Full on dictator

 

[geordiecolin]

Nah thats just media talking points. He was in office already for 4 years. No signs of dictatorism. Trudeau however, closed Canadian bank accounts, shut down peaceful protests, blocks us from reading news, pays the news outlets here. Full on dictator

Learned a lot from his father Fidel

 

[lockinlove]

I recall 4 short years ago I was accused of ageism and being deluded when I pointed out Biden's mental abilities and that he would be replaced before the next election.
Funny how age is being used as reason to attack Trump now despite him using a prompter as a reminder of his bullet ( SORRY) points which most sensible people would use during an hour plus address

This is what the democrats do. They are the biggest hypocrites I have ever witnessed. Trump and his family are criminals! Trump is too old!

Just 2 weeks ago democrats paraded around saying Joe Biden was still young and able to run and they would support him. Bidens son is literally a druggie criminal...Biden himself is a criminal but case was dismissed because he's too incompetent to go to trial LOL.

Jan 6th all should be hung!

But then supported the black lives matter riots which caused 10x the deaths and destruction.

They trash Trumps aggressive rhetoric but a few weeks ago told their base to do everything necesssary to stop Trump. A few actually suggested physical violence "its time to punch them in the face"

And what do you know, someone tried to shoot him.

Democrats are good at one thing. Convincing the uneducated to follow their lead.

 

[geordiecolin]

This is what the democrats do. They are the biggest hypocrites I have ever witnessed. Trump and his family are criminals! Trump is too old!

Just 2 weeks ago democrats paraded around saying Joe Biden was still young and able to run and they would support him. Bidens son is literally a druggie criminal...Biden himself is a criminal but case was dismissed because he's too incompetent to go to trial LOL.

Jan 6th all should be hung!

But then supported the black lives matter riots which caused 10x the deaths and destruction.

They trash Trumps aggressive rhetoric but a few weeks ago told their base to do everything necesssary to stop Trump. A few actually suggested physical violence "its time to punch them in the face"

And what do you know, someone tried to shoot him.

Democrats are good at one thing. Convincing the uneducated to follow their lead.

I would love to see the two wars end but I suspect that Trump is risking another ass ass ination attempt for even hinting that he would end the war in the Ukraine. Too many are getting rich from it.