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150$ at 40 and 80 cents bets. No feature. Nothing.

I’d rather go buy lottery tickets.

The megaways has become overdone.

I was never a fan of megaways or blueprint. This just sealed it for me.

Blueprint has gone overboard. Every game release is now megaways.
 
150$ at 40 and 80 cents bets. No feature. Nothing.

I’d rather go buy lottery tickets.

The megaways has become overdone.

I was never a fan of megaways or blueprint. This just sealed it for me.

Blueprint has gone overboard. Every game release is now megaways.


As I said in the video, the base will suck you dry long before Bonanza's will......bad luck there.
 
Reminds me of FOBTs capping your win at 500 & keeping the rest.

Think the game should be designed to only pay out a max of what the player can win.

the Max win is, of course, factored into the RTP. This is the same for FOBTs. You can still achieve RTP and %age with fixed payouts no drama
 
the Max win is, of course, factored into the RTP. This is the same for FOBTs. You can still achieve RTP and %age with fixed payouts no drama

But what is it though? The 50,000x bet or the 1m + xbet? Now for the RTP to be kosher it wold have to be the 50,000 that's factored in which is what I think you're getting at. In which case it's stooooopid having the pay tables that infer wins 22x greater.

Or is it a case of if somebody won 1.1m x bet and was only paid 50,000x, the game factors the limit in and adds the unpaid amount back into the RTP which sounds farcical when typing it.

Or is it simply not possible to get those kind of results? In which case the game should say so, specifically.

I think it must work like those RTG slots like Raindance which will automatically stop the bonus when 2500x bet is reached or whatever it is, so the RTP is based around that as a maximum result irrespective of what stupidity is shown on the reels. This means that effectively ALL the thousands of reel combinations in FS that COULD pay >50,000x MUST be in the 'pool of balls' as @ChopleyIOM puts it, at the same 50,000x result MINUS preceding pays in the bonus until that point. It's the only way I can see it be both fair and to make the right RTP over time.

So some sort of code which says "any@50,000> = 50,000" or something. @trancemonkey would know and then could stop me going on with this ballcocks...:laugh:
 
I don't like how it looks (the animals are stupid childish cartoons) and I hate Blueprint's fun play. Not fan of the cap either.

Basically, as Dunover said, how is the RTP and the game the same for every bet size if bigger wins than the cap are possible?
They can't be possible, not really. Or it is rigged :p
 
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All the fun of the original but instead of 9 lines there's up to 117k! Cascading wins! A wildline awards 59 extra free games with increasing multiplier!

*Maximum win 250,000x bet or $100, whichever comes first.
 
This higher volatility than queen of riches?

Tried 400 spins on it on .80 and I lost $277..whats that like 14% rtp?

Wont be playing this beast again
 
Everyone playing this is basically funding the slot's "potential" :D

Keep going!!
People must hate me for putting up these new slots....my Blueprint Tariff will be good this month!
 
Actually I am ok with this game, base play was not too tight and got quite a few features, none of
which were spectacular.ended up a few hundred after a few hours plays,better than the recent BTG
incarnations.
Sure my view will change after it resorts to normal shite mode but at the moment I am enjoying it.
Withdrew £500 last night and will only be playing with piss around money this weekend.
 
They messed up on this slot. They have made it so its near impossible to play because the base game just destroys you. I tried it today and out of 100 spins on $1.2 I lost $90. Not a big sample obv but along with others posts it looks like all the rtp must be in the bonus game.

The math distributed in this one is just terrible because most bonuses pay zero too. So its completely loaded to give someone one big hit and everyone else demolished.
 
Amazing how different it can play for 2 people, found the base play kind enough to play
at £2 which I rarely do.Not doubting that it played crap for you, probably will for me next time
 
unlucky on reel 6 :(
Primal megaways maingame.PNG
 
got two bonuses for x14 ±
i guess it's kinda common for this greedy slot
it eats your balance like crazy and doesn't give anything in return to keep your balance during main game.

it's like bonanza with 90% of dead useless spins and tons of mystical symbols which can cover all reels 2-6 without any match on reel 1

upd: so today i decided to play bonanza and deposited 50$ in casumo. i played 0.2$ bets for 1 hour 40 minutes. had ups and downs, 3 bonuses x20, x50 and final x250. so after almost two hours of gameplay and with 56$ on my balance i decided to try primal for 0.2$ bets too)))))))
well, i had 20 minutes of gameplay for these money) not a single win above 10x. that's kinda it. lol. this slot is not about entertainment at all.
 
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Ya this game is not on the top of my list but I am a sucker for revealing symbols so they got me there. I FINALLY hit 2 bonuses and the one was o.k. and the other crap and I think the base game is crap so it's just going to be a just try it here and there for something different.
 
But what is it though? The 50,000x bet or the 1m + xbet? Now for the RTP to be kosher it wold have to be the 50,000 that's factored in which is what I think you're getting at. In which case it's stooooopid having the pay tables that infer wins 22x greater.

Or is it a case of if somebody won 1.1m x bet and was only paid 50,000x, the game factors the limit in and adds the unpaid amount back into the RTP which sounds farcical when typing it.

Or is it simply not possible to get those kind of results? In which case the game should say so, specifically.

I think it must work like those RTG slots like Raindance which will automatically stop the bonus when 2500x bet is reached or whatever it is, so the RTP is based around that as a maximum result irrespective of what stupidity is shown on the reels. This means that effectively ALL the thousands of reel combinations in FS that COULD pay >50,000x MUST be in the 'pool of balls' as @ChopleyIOM puts it, at the same 50,000x result MINUS preceding pays in the bonus until that point. It's the only way I can see it be both fair and to make the right RTP over time.

So some sort of code which says "any@50,000> = 50,000" or something. @trancemonkey would know and then could stop me going on with this ballcocks...:laugh:

Did we ever get confirmation on how exactly RTG's win caps are accounted for - whether or not the player is compensated for losing out due to those caps?

The closest I ever found was here, but from almost a decade ago from someone who worked for the company that designed the real series slots: Feature Guarantees - RTG -- How long do you spin?

But it still sounds kind of ambiguous to me - the perspective of that person seems to be that most slots are .1% or less so it doesn't really matter, and on the two biggest slots "but even then it was slightly over 1%". So from that post, it sounds like one game was compensated for the chance of breaking the cap - guessing it was triple twister since that game is now a forced 50 line game. But it's unclear whether or not rain dance was compensated for the loss. They also stated in another post that RTP calculations were based on a "cycle" of the reels, no mention of factoring in the caps. But who knows what has or hasn't changed since then.

Regarding the slot at hand, I'm guessing it's pretty likely that the RTP loss is compensated elsewhere since they actually have to deal with real regulators (unlike RTG most of the time), but it would be nice to get actual confirmation. I always feels a bit uncomfortable when I don't know for sure that a game pays out how I expect it to or not. Also curious what happens if you bet over $5, since the cap is even lower? (Unless $5 is just the maximum, I can't test from here.)
 

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