Playtech Pulls out of Canada, Netherlands and Finland

I got the email from Tropez earlier this week that my account is closed due to them pulling out of Canada. The mass exodus begins lol.:eek:
 
I got the email from Tropez earlier this week that my account is closed due to them pulling out of Canada. The mass exodus begins lol.:eek:

Lol, I've never really found a PT casino I was comfortable playing at, so real loss for me. I'd play the odd few at Bet365, but never made WDs off the games, rather the others, so I can't see it impacting me any.
As long as I've MG, I'm good.
No WMS and IGT sucks, but heck, the B and M is a couple blocks away.
 
Hi Everyone,

On behalf of Peak Interactive which operates Omni Casino and Fly Casino. Allow me to assure all members from Canada, Australia and Finland that you are welcome to enjoy our casinos 24/7 across all platforms. We have NO plans or intentions whatsoever of discontinuing our services in these countries.

Warm Regards,

OC Elliott
 
But didn't BetFred open a new casino for players from OZ? I seem to recall there was an email, but maybe it hasn't happened yet.

i didn´t get an e-mail with that new casino, also is not available on their affiliate site.
i only received the e-mail saying that betfred no longer accepts players from australia at a few months ago
 
It's a pretty weird situation when a giant corporation like Playtech can't solve local problems in countries where online gambling's always been legal... and when New Jersey casinos just launched in-state online... and when the rest of America is gambling off the radar anyway. It's just like prohibition times.

Now we all know America's got that crazy puritanical streak, runs right through it, they'll ban anything looks half fun because half the people shout "Jesus" and the other half are selling it back to 'em, whatever they felt guilty for, for twice the price on the sly. I call that capitalism. But I never figured those pinko Canadians would take to it.
 
It's a pretty weird situation when a giant corporation like Playtech can't solve local problems in countries where online gambling's always been legal... and when New Jersey casinos just launched in-state online... and when the rest of America is gambling off the radar anyway. It's just like prohibition times.

Now we all know America's got that crazy puritanical streak, runs right through it, they'll ban anything looks half fun because half the people shout "Jesus" and the other half are selling it back to 'em, whatever they felt guilty for, for twice the price on the sly. I call that capitalism. But I never figured those pinko Canadians would take to it.



"Pinko Canadians"...really?
 
Hi Everyone,

On behalf of Peak Interactive which operates Omni Casino and Fly Casino. Allow me to assure all members from Canada, Australia and Finland that you are welcome to enjoy our casinos 24/7 across all platforms. We have NO plans or intentions whatsoever of discontinuing our services in these countries.

Warm Regards,

OC Elliott

That is definitely good news. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
That is a terrible word to call someone :axeman: I would also love to see what would happen if
he calls Max one :mad:

to be fair, Canadians DO generally have left-wing and socialist tendencies, but you can't paint a whole nation with one brush
it would be akin to saying all Americans are war-mongering right-wingers - it's just asking for trouble :thumbsup:
 
i didn´t get an e-mail with that new casino, also is not available on their affiliate site.
i only received the e-mail saying that betfred no longer accepts players from australia at a few months ago

Sorry, I was trying to find info about it too - maybe it hasn't happened yet. I did find this article xxxhttp://www.australiangambling.com.au/gambling-news/new-online-bookie-coming-to-australia/22522/ that mentions it, so at least I wasn't just dreaming the whole thing. :oops:
 
to be fair, Canadians DO generally have left-wing and socialist tendencies, but you can't paint a whole nation with one brush
it would be akin to saying all Americans are war-mongering right-wingers - it's just asking for trouble :thumbsup:

Heh. Just to be clear... that was sarcasm!! I was making a parody of a certain American type. (I also don't think banning things and then taxing them to death is "capitalism" -- that was a joke too). You know, there are a lot of people in America who vote for "moral" politicans who ban online poker, and these are often the same people who say America's the freest country on earth and Canada's a socialist nanny state. I guess maybe you have to be from America to get how crazy it is. But I wasn't tryin' to insult any Canadians!
 
Heh. Just to be clear... that was sarcasm!! I was making a parody of a certain American type. (I also don't think banning things and then taxing them to death is "capitalism" -- that was a joke too). You know, there are a lot of people in America who vote for "moral" politicans who ban online poker, and these are often the same people who say America's the freest country on earth and Canada's a socialist nanny state. I guess maybe you have to be from America to get how crazy it is. But I wasn't tryin' to insult any Canadians!

well, good dern thing, eh, me and the boys were gonna hook up the dogs and load up the hockey sticks and give ya a right thrashin' punctuated by apologies. (but then we got drunk on Molson and went ice fishin' anyway).
 
Hi Everyone,

On behalf of Peak Interactive which operates Omni Casino and Fly Casino. Allow me to assure all members from Canada, Australia and Finland that you are welcome to enjoy our casinos 24/7 across all platforms. We have NO plans or intentions whatsoever of discontinuing our services in these countries.

Warm Regards,

OC Elliott

This is all very well, but as we know from earlier situations, you do not necessarily call the shots on this, Playtech do. It will still unsettle players because it is the start of the second wave of the mass pull out from Canada. Even this partial pull out was done in secret and with plenty of misinformation given to players. Firstly, the pull out was rumoured to include Canada, then players were assured this was not the case, and the rumour quashed, yet now we are being officially informed it was true all along.

The problem for players is that by not acting on the rumour, they now face themselves being locked out of their accounts unable to "tidy their affairs" beforehand, such as completing any remaining WR and withdrawing any balance they have in the account. Now this all has to be negotiated via CS, and past experience shows us this can be a far from straight forward state of affairs, especially where there are unfinished WR.

It's similar to the mess that was the intercasino pull out from Canada, which also left players with unfinished WR after sincere assurances from CS the day before that there was absolutely no intention of Canadians being banned altogether. It began with Canadians having problems claiming the monthly bonus, and having to get CS to add it manually. It was clear that the decision had already been made, but was deliberately kept from players before the actual lock out of their accounts.

How can Canadian players now be expected to believe that there is no plan to lock them out of Omni when there is always "no plan to lock them out" when it happens anywhere. It's not just Playtech either, it was a mess when players from Spain found themselves locked out from Microgaming overnight, and for a few days the CS of the casinos sent them on a wild goose chase starting with it being their end or ISP, through to a technical problem that was being addresses, and only being revealed as a lockout after a few days. It turns out the operators DID have no plans to do this, it was the software supplier that pulled the plug. We know that Playtech also unilaterally act to pull the plug, overruling their licensees in some cases.

Europa seem to have been pushed into doing this, hence the "running around like headless chickens" effect when it comes to getting a straight answer as to why accounts are locked in Canada. It rather looks like Playtech have ordered their "white label" operators to ditch Canada, but the independents are currently unaware of any plans from Playtech related to a general pull out at the software level. This doesn't mean that Playtech have no plans to make this into a software wide limitation, just that they have not released any.
 
Could you please give us a list of all the casinos which are owned by Playtech?

Thanks,
KK

Playtech bought Euro partners in 2011, quoting myself from other thread for the list of Euro Partner Licensee casinos, not sure if that counts as ownership per se, at least they seem to be very careful not to be classified as operator for tax reasons.

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/playtech-casinos-with-predatory-progessive-terms.57604/

Playtech bought Euro Partners in 2011. All 5 Euro Partner licensee casinos are on Not Recommended list because of predatory progressive terms, 9.9k euro withdrawal limit kinda sucks if you hit progressive worth of millions. So it seems that Playtech allows this kind of behavior even with the casinos most closely associated with them...

Playtech Acquires Euro Partners Affiliate Program (2011)
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Not Recommended Casinos has all the 5 Euro Partner licensee casinos listed.

Casino Bellini
Vegas Red
Titan Casino
Europa Casino
Casino Tropez

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Euro Partners has more than 50,000 affiliates on its network, making it one of the most powerful marketing, acquisition and retention businesses in the online gaming industry. Therefore this acquisition will strengthen Playtech's position as a single source supplier of online gaming solutions to new entrants in regulated and soon-to-be-regulated markets. The current Euro Partners licensees include some big operators in the online casino industry, such as Casino Tropez, Europa Casino, Titan Casino and Vegas Red Casino. It is in advanced discussions with a number of additional potential licensees.

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After the presentation of the annual results Playtech chief executive Mor Weizer said the acquisition of Euro Partners would give Playtech direct contact with operators and also direct communication between the operators and their customers. He however clarified that this deal would not classify Playtech as a fully fledged operator. Hence there was no danger of it becoming eligible for additional taxation in various markets.
 
At which point in time did the Playtech "owned" operators actually lock out Canadian players? If there was an official statement made, anyone have a link?

Hopefully if there is 100% pull out from Canada, we'll have a week or so to wrap things up first, but who knows.
 
No they don't. In this case, it is down to the casinos. The ones that pulled out were Playtech-owned.

So, why were no Playtech operators permitted to remain in the US? Some certainly wanted to stay, as with Microgaming, but they couldn't. If it was truly up to the operators, we would still see a few Playtech casinos willing to take the risk by remaining in the US.

If it IS completely up to the casinos elsewhere, then we can heap 100% of the blame on the operators if they make a sudden overnight pull out of a country without showing due consideration to the players affected by giving them a reasonable notice period in which to tidy up their affairs (complete WR, claim loyalty points, submit withdrawal via the lobby).

We also should have a means to determine with considerable certainty which casinos are effectively owned and operated by Playtech, and which are true independents just licensing the software.
 
It's similar to the mess that was the intercasino pull out from Canada, which also left players with unfinished WR after sincere assurances from CS the day before that there was absolutely no intention of Canadians being banned altogether. It began with Canadians having problems claiming the monthly bonus, and having to get CS to add it manually. It was clear that the decision had already been made, but was deliberately kept from players before the actual lock out of their accounts..

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When did this take place? Dec 4th the Intercasino rep announced a hamper contest for new members signing up through CM. It's been quite a while since I've played, and I haven't received any notification.

I did try to log into my account (which I've not used in some time) after reading VWM statement, and I get a message "We are upgrading your casino to a newer version. We hope to see you soon in our new and exciting casino product".

It's been months since I've played Intercasino, so I have no idea how long it's been like that.
 
//DERAIL//

When did this take place? Dec 4th the Intercasino rep announced a hamper contest for new members signing up through CM. It's been quite a while since I've played, and I haven't received any notification.

I did try to log into my account (which I've not used in some time) after reading VWM statement, and I get a message "We are upgrading your casino to a newer version. We hope to see you soon in our new and exciting casino product".

It's been months since I've played Intercasino, so I have no idea how long it's been like that.

Intercasino have not locked out CDN players, nor have our bonuses been affected, it was purely the upgrade/changeover that created issues with bonuses.
 

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