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I just got a call from some fool at casino1x2 offering me a 15% bonus; it's 1:15am here.

Needless to say I was not impressed by the call & the cheap bonus offer simply made it worse.
E-mail sent with some choice wording & telling them to close account.

Anyway one else getting sick of this type of harassment?
 
I use anonimous proxy to work with casino as usa citizen and so i need usa bank account to receve money from casino.
And my suggestion for cooperation is still active. You can see that there is no any scam.
 
jpm,

what's your phone number?? lmao
 
First of all, i promote casino and get money for promotion. Sometimes i play. I must do it as usa citisen because i have no way. Many casinos has blacklisted my country. But i still wish to work and get money for my work. My post is not a scam. I say it once again.
There are my friends who also work with casino and need to get money to usa bank accounts. I'll give my phone number for people who wish earn money and is ready to give his bank account for receiveing casino winings from us. There is no risk for you.
And i'll prove that my post is real opoportunity for you to earn 300-900$ a month. Also you can ask me if you have any questions about casino and i'll help you. (technical questions, game strategic and so on).
 
OK, so first of all you are misrepresenting to the casino that you are a US citizen, that is fraud. Secondly you want someone here to let you use their bank account so you can basically launder money through it. That is illegal and would most likely get the real US citizen imprisoned while you are off finding another sucker to play this scam with.

Though I don't believe that online casinos are used to launder money for terrorists, this operation certainly could be used for that.

DON'T HELP THIS GUY AND HIS CADRE OF UNKNOWN BANDITS DO THIS!
 
I am. Just a few days ago one sportsbook (can't recall the name) called and left a message and it's important for me to call and she even gave a file number (don't know what's that suppose to mean). I thought, "What the?". Hate it when they start phone spamming me. I've had enough junk in the mailbox and email from them already.
 
jpm,

Would misrepresenting oneself as a US citizen in a casino based in a third world country be considered a crime in Russia? I doubt it.

Ripping off casinos that profit off the vices of others, will not be a major obstacle to most people.

The problem is two-fold. First legally, for what crimes would the US accomplice be prosecutable?
Second, there is a question of who ruswinner is and who he might be involved with. Getting involved with this enterprise might have serious consequences. Who knows who you would be laundering money for?

b
 
Hi Ruswinner!

And welcome to our forum. What you are doing sounds quite interesting, and I'd like to get involved. Which casinos are you able to play at, and which ones are you having problems with opening an account? Please let me know and I'll try and help you out.
 
Caruso, please take the time to have a look at some of the things you have been saying about those who have adopted a more conservative approach to this issue. Then if the cap fits by all means wear it.

You have certain qualities that I respect, as I have posted before but tolerance and restraint do not appear to be among them and from the moment these stats hit the Internet you have personally tried and convicted Microgaming almost to the exclusion of the other software providers about whom TG has yet to draw conclusions or issue his addendums.

Hip Hop has those of us who want to see more expert opinion pegged right in his/her post above. I continue to have an open mind on the subject and sarcasm, adverse innuendo or bullying will have absolutely no influence on the manner in which I regard this important matter - expert interpretation and opinion will.
 
I should add to the above that I have subsequently discovered that the GM has admitted to being incorrect and has issued the following statement:

"Well, there's nothing quite like admitting you're wrong, but in the case of the MGS 'blackjacks' numbers in the TrueGambler report, I was wrong.
I now see that because of the "ENHC" rule, a Microgaming dealer will draw to a 10 or Ace upcard only if the player has elected to stand. Because players will usually hit more aggressively versus a 10 or A, there will be fewer opportunities for the MGS dealer to try for a natural, thus the observed number will be less than the 4.83% we expect to see.

Naturally, this raises the question about player strategy, which was brought up before. If a player has a tendency to stand with less-than-optimal hands, the "dealer" will have more of an opportunity to draw to its Ace or 10.

I'll continue working on this because I'm still not convinced there isn't a "fatal flaw" in the report. But obviously I haven't found it yet.

GM"
 
Dear sirs, do you know that casinos have no rights in USA??? Do you know that online casinos have no official or legal status in USA??? Do you know that usa laws restrict online casinos to base in the territory of USA???
Why paypal do not accept casino transactions anymore? Because of usa laws that tryes to stop online gambling in usa.
You do not know usa laws and say abount crime and fraud.
Dear, jpm, you are jelous and aggressive. You say real bullshit. May be you are terrorist, aren't you?

To my regret, some people post here stupid messages and even do not know how casinos work and what is usa laws.
 
Braskin, as you post your message on Russian i answer you in our language.

Zachem govorit' takuyu tupust'? Ia s takim zhe uspehom mogu sprosit' u tebia: a kto ty takoy? i kuda tratish den'gi?
Ia vedu normal'niy buisness i ves'ma uspeshno reklamiruyu casino. Edinstvennaya problema v poluchenii deneg. A vsiakie tupiyzy nachinayut nesti bred, chto mol on terorist i tak dalee.
 
to ruswinner, also in russian.

Ti prav, ya ne znayu kto ti, i ti ne znaesh kto ya. Esli ti bi mog privesti primer tvoei uspeshnoi reklami ili tvoei stranichki mne bilo bi legche tebe poverit.

A pro riski dlya grazhdanina ameriki. Ti prav, kazino ne imeet ligalnogo statusa v amerike. No kak ya ponimayu, v amerike tak nazivaemoe "stiranie deneg" ne legalno.
ne obyavlenie dohoda pravitelstvu tozhe schitaetsa pristupleniem.

Obyasni kakaya problema s polucheniem deneg? Esli otkrivaesh schet v filiale zapadnogo banka v rosii, u nego chto drugoi "routing number" chem v tom zhe samom banke na zapade?

Ya ne zhivu v rosii i davno tam ne bil, i esli voprosi glupie, izvini.

br
 
Just a note here - I tried to edit the GM's article out but unfortunately the 30 minute rule at this board prevented me from doing so. My apologies.
 
Braskin,

Whether its a crime in russia or not, it is still defrauding the casino through misrepresentation. They will find out, and then the player and the scammer will both be banned from that casino and all the others in the group (e.g. microgaming, playtech, rtg, etc).

The US accomplice would raise the attention of the homeland security department with all the money being transferred in & out of the country. This person would then be interrogated and probably charged with money laundering under US laws.

And ruswinner,

I'm well aware of the laws regarding casinos in the US, don't need any update from you. Why don't you just open an account in a swiss bank if you need to pretend you are in another country? This is easy enough to do and wouldn't cost you 10% of your winnings. Why are you preying on US citizens?

I have nothing to be jealous of you for. I win often and can actually claim my winnings without defrauding the casino and using others for my nefarious purposes.

And for everyone who doesn't read russian, I'll have a friend of mine translate these postings for us tomorrow or the next day.
 
Dear, jpm you've already shown that your knowlege of casino industry is very poor. And now your statement is stupid as previous one. You tries to discuss on things that you do not know and you have a great fantasy. You should be a cryminal story writer. :-)
 
I've been gambling online & offline for probably alot longer than you have and consider myself quite knowledgable of the online casino industry. And I'm sure I have alot more knowledge of US laws than you do. You just don't like having this obvious scam exposed.

And you haven't answered why you can't use a Swiss bank account for your gambling activity.
 
(For braskin and for jpm)
There is no possibility for Russian people to open account in usa bank. Local branches in Russia of usa banks (for example Citibank) are considered as separate banks and could not be used as usa based banks.

Braskin, ia ne dumal chto moy post vyzovet takuyu negativnuyu reactiu. Soglasis', chto govorit' url moih stranic eto krayne opasno, uchitivaya chto luboy pridurok mozhet nastuchat' i v takom sluchae moy buisness prosto nakroetsia. Est' ludi v usa s kotorimi ia uspeshno rabotayu i nikakih problem, no, mne nuzhny eshe ludy kak raz po tomu chto ne hochu chto by voznikli problemy esli provodit' slichkom bolshie summy cherez ih scheta. A tak poluchenie deneg ot casino, naskol'ko ia znayu, schitaetsia kak (personal to personal) i nalogami ne oblagaetsia.

(For casinomeister)
Thank you for your post. I think we should discuss it in private section. Ok?
 
Another sign of a scam, you don't answer the question that was asked.

I said SWISS account. Anyone can open a Swiss account. Why don't you?? I never asked about you opening a US account. Last I checked, Switzerland is not part of the US.
 
Sorry, jpm, i an tired of your questions and stupid statements. I say you last time that i can't open bank account in offshore territory because i am in Russia and have russian citizenship.

And again for the others. My post is not scam. It's really work. There are people in usa who cooperate with me and there are no problems. I wish to have more persons to have buisness with because i have several promotional sites and so i need different persons to help me in receiveing money.

This is absolutely legal. In that case you considered as owner of the account in casino and as webmaster, but all work for you do i.

And this is not casino abuse because casino get good profit from my work and a lot of money.
The main problem is that casinos have rules and they do not change it i even they wish to cooperate with me.

That's all.
 
Explain me please how can i open swiss account???
And how can i get swiss address to be considered as swidserland citizen?

Have you bank account in Swiss? and did you play in casino that do not accept usa people using that account?

I think that casino will check address of the person i do not send money.

Dear, jpm, all your attempts to prove that my post is scam is fall, because i'm not a scammer.
 
Its very easy to open a swiss account. Its very simple. You just go to Old / Expired Link and open one.

You ask how can you get a swiss address??? How are you using a US address to be considered as a US citizen?? Or are you using the person's address that you are scamming as your own? Another case of fraud.

And, yes, I did open an account there. But no, I don't SCAM casinos by telling them I live in a different country when they don't accept players from my country.

You are so obviously scamming the casinos and the people who are dumb enough to get involved with you. Why do you need to pretend you are someone else living in another country if it is all legal and above reproach. Simple, IT'S NOT. You are obviously either claiming multiple signup bonuses using different people's identities, or something similar to this. Otherwise there's really no need for this false identity that you need to establish.

Do you really want this guy to have access to your bank account and by association your credit record and identity?? I'm sure he's got some way to get this info once you give him your bank account information, and then your life will be completely screwed up. Or he could just print up a check(s) with Quicken with your bank account info on it, cash it, and leave you holding the bag for the bad check(s). Don't be stupid, keep your bank account info to yourself.

I'm bored with you and this thread now, so I'm just going to say that anyone who gets involved with this guy deserves whatever happens to them.
 
Thanks Jet, I appreciate it. I noticed one other flaw in GM's article though. Hopefully he's reading this and can comment.

As I understand it, there's a little known, rarely used rule in the MG blackjack that will cause it to stand on a hand total of LESS than 17. Someone had mentioned it here a few months back that they thought it was a bug, but MG confirmed it was not. I think it went something like this, if the dealer has less than 17 after 6 cards, he stands. So theoretically you could lose if you stood on 15 and he drew a 6 card 16.

The GM in his article says " Of course, the dealer will never end with a total of less than 17, because she, he, it, is required to hit on 16. " when calculating probabilities. I don't know for sure, but I'd think that this would change the theoretical probabilities.
 
You lose on a 6 card 16? Thats crap. I play at a harrahs near my house, its all video. It doesnt have that stupid let you double split then tell you it has BJ, if you hit 6 cards and dont bust you win, if the dealer draws 6 cards and doesnt bust you win no matter if he made 21 or not. where on this earth have you ever seen a house not hit before they had 17? MG i guess. It's BS and im glad it got exposed.
 
This is old news - but if you look at it more closely, it also means that you could lose on a 6 card 8 (if you were silly enough to stand on 7 or less) - or win on a 6 card 8 (if you had more than 8 and less than 22).

The reason is probably because of display issues.
 
Having followed these exchanges with interest and at times amusement I would have to agree with JPM here - this guy really looks like a scammer to me...
 
Croup...or anyone else here. Appreciate some help with a comment I was sure had been made here or at WOL but I cannot find it again.

What would be the impact of two sorts of BJ decks in use on the MGS tests ie a single deck on the old software and a double on the Viper stuff? I'm sure I saw a reference to this in one of the many debates on this issue but I can't remember what the conclusions were on that?
 
Oops, well that's what I meant, you got the gist. 6 or soft 16 I should have said. Still a stupid rule but probably is based on display limitations. A more friendly version would have been to say the player automatically wins on a dealer 6 card and less than 17 hand.
 
Dear jpm, thirst of all thank you for your link, i'll check it and if it's really possible to open bank account in swiss for russian it will be great.
By the way, i'd like to note that all you said about me and my buisnees is based only on your fantasy. You've said a lot of bad things about me without knowing me and my buisness.
JPM is ready to say every shit about me (that i'm terrorist, that i'll stole money from bank account and etc. nonsens).
The fact is that i explain everything and can explain more but only for those people who wish to work and not for such mud slingers as jpm. He do not wish to hear me but only wish to prove that i'm a scammer.

The fact is that people receive money regullary and get 10%. (As bank wire of as check) There are no problems. They can always check the source of money, you always call me if they have any questions.

Dear, jpm. When you give another person (for example for payment if you sell something) your bank account info, do you afraid of steeling money? you say nonsens writing that i'll steel money and so on. I need bank account info not for steeling but for payment. And i explain why. I also wish to note that check is also possible as payment. (So if someone do not wish to give me his bank account details he can receive checks).

JPM, you are completely uninformed about casino buisness and casino promotion. I'am afraid that you do not know how it works. You are evil and unpleasant person, and have desires for mud slinging and shitmaking. Use for that other places but not this great forum. You can fullfill all your shit making dreams visiting sites specially created for shitlovers like you. Go to
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and be glad with it, and do not use for your desires this forum.

I think that discussion is over and thanks to all for attention.
 
Bryan: I don't know if this is what you mean?

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YOU ARE RECRUITING OTHER PEOPLE TO USE AS AN ALTERNATE IDENTITY FOR YOURSELF AND GIVING THEM 10% FOR THE USE OF THEIR IDENTITY. YOU ARE A SCAMMER AND YOU WILL BE CAUGHT.

THE FACT IS, YOU ARE REPRESENTING YOURSELF TO CASINOS AS A U.S. CITIZEN WHICH YOU ARE NOT. BASED ON THAT ALONE YOU ARE A LIAR AND A THIEF.
 
rus,

Prishli mne address stranichki po "private message"...

Ya obeschayu chto ne raskazhu. (A komu mne razkazivat? Ya voobsche ne grazhdanin rossii...)

br
 
Ruswinner:
I have not involved myself with this thread since I know it and you are totally full of shit.
However, since you chose to drag JPM's ass across the coals....now you can try dragging mine.

For starters, I absolutely love the way your posts consist of someone who is not fluent with our language to someone who is fluent. Look at the last paragraph of your last post. I don't even think you live in Russia, I think you are a complete liar and trying to scam this forum. By the way, JPM is a regular here, YOU ARE NOT...therefore, do not tell him where and where not to post his thoughts. Additionally, for a supposedly Russian citizen, you seem to know about "mud slinging" and "shit making". Is it possible that you know about this simply because that is what YOU ARE?

Stop poisoning OUR forum with your lies, scams and money making opportunities. I would not give you access to my son's piggy bank account, nevermind his actual bank account, and he is only 11. Take your crap elsewhere.

Now, you can stop badmouthing JPM and try attacking me. I will warn you though, I just might be the last person you want to irritate.

Just in case you want to make believe that you do not understand what I posted, let me spell it out for you.....GO TO HELL!!!!!
 
Dear, Linda. Your post is not so bad as jpm's one. And i was glad to read that my post "consists of someone... who is fluent" in English. I do not have English lessons since school and now i do not use dictinary or special grammatic books, so, sorry for mistakes and mistypes.
It is really interesting to me what country do you think i am from? :-)

Jpm has made absolutely fantactic dirty statements about me. So i was not pleased to read it. And what would be your reaction in case that someone said that you are terrorist or thief?

And please, "do not ever forget... that LOVE CONQUERS ALL" :-).

I think that there is no reason continiue discussion. If you have any questions or suggestion please e-mail me.

Braskin, napishi mne, esli konechno ty deystvitel'no gotov rabotat' a ne iz pradnogo lubopytstva hochesh uvidet' site. Ne dumayu chto stoit ispol'zovat privat foruma dlia perepiski, luchshe po pochte. Pravda posle togo kak menia zdes' vse obrugali, prosto hochetsia udalit' temu i vse. V drugom meste naydu ludey.
 

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