New RTG casino-Aladdins Palace

THese onlline casinos sure throw the "VIP" word around alot and it really isnt right.

It's basic salesman psychology, and it works! Just like when buying a kebab at the corner the guy behind the desk will welcome you with "hello boss", and our basic brain will love the place because indirectly we believe the guy running the takeaway place accually works for us...

Admit it, it feels so much better playing in a casino where you are a VIP than being another looser... :D

So yes, they throw it around, and with good reason - to make money!

Do all the meister members have to adopt an attitude of deference to the online Casinos?

I to have a big problem grasping this, since the T&C obviously changes from time to time without even notifying the members. This is like running a pretty lame ponzi scheme, altering the rules while the game plays since nobody accually busts you for it! And if they do - who cares - just a loser anyway crying to get his money back!

Here's an idea - why not make the meister take a backup of all T&C and put it into a CVS, so we can see what changes - when it changes - and how many changes they have! I bet me ass some of you would be really shocked to see what's going on with the "trusted" ones!

I didn't loose my money on this one, however I have lost my fair share - and I have no obligations in defending such crooks like this! Altering rules while you play - now that is plain and simple dirty play! Why some of you do not see that really confuses me, almost feels like I want to take a pencil and shove it into my eyeball - to make the pain go away!
 
Yes, and this;

Company Name:
CLUB WORLD CASINOS LIMITED

Company No: 05341509
Registered Office:
Incorporated: 25/01/2005 STEAM PACKET HOUSE
76 CROSS STREET
MANCHESTER M2 4JU
M2 4JU

Company Type: Private Limited
Report Status: Full Data
Accounts Type: Dormant
Latest Accounts to: 31/01/2007
Latest Return to: 25/01/2008
It is an office building with two law firms in it and there are dozens of companies registered there.
 
Hey Kimms

It's funny because I find what you are saying to be true about the "VIP" throw around but in all honesty, I get insulted when someone calls me a vip when Ive never even deposited or I havent deposited enough to earn that title. Those are the places I avoid. But you are right, most people like it but I fear it's only the insecure that feel that way. My dad always said "call me what you want, just dont call me late for dinner":D
 
It is an office building with two law firms in it and there are dozens of companies registered there.

Even I have a Limited company, maby the lawyer companies are the ones "managing" all the companies for all I know, LOL. In Norway we pay say $500 for a LTD company, then we can use that company to get the "tax benefits" of having a company in england, same goes for the other ones.

It's most likely just an address where the mail is forwarded to their "main" activity.

What I have been wondering about sometimes however, is how many people you would need to start such a casino. From swear I got the feeling that some of theese RTG casinoes can be run by 1 dude, it sure doesn't sound like a "business" filled with serious people doing day to day business!

I would love to see some pictures of the people running theese casino companies, maby it's just 1 dude with 1 account into the RTG system where he get's the branding all in the package. All you need is start capital and you get the complete package!

I'm being real nasty against Allading now, I know, but how does theese RTG operations work? Do you need anything at all to start a casino? Or just a lump of money and buy a package - like Windows Vista?
 
and as you have said in the past K.K about reps not wanting to come on here and post, cant say as i blame them now, i would imagine they have alot of things that they have to get in order and everyone and everything is not perfect, i thank tom for coming on here and posting even though it may not have been the answer some had wanted, they have always had a good reputation and i wouldnt expect less from aladdins, infact i wish them the very best:thumbsup:.......................laurie
Yes of course we want then to come here & post - but only if they are telling us the truth, otherwise where is their credibility?

I know what I saw and Tom either knowingly lied ,which is totally not acceptable, or he didn't check with the powers that be to see if the page had been changed, which is more forgivable though still very unsatisfactory in my book.

The max cash-out issue is a very minor one anyway, so I don't see what's the problem with Tom just saying 'sorry, I made a mistake' and moving on.

KK
 
Why do I keep reading the same line "I understand why Reps are reluctant to post"
What does that even mean?
The Rep has posted anyway and because of the feedback from this thread they have already made improvements to their site.
Cashout times being listed.
T&C's clarified.
etc

Do all the meister members have to adopt an attitude of deference to the online Casinos?
Let the members say what they feel and the Mod's moderate.

Rusty,

Like what you said, members may say what they feel but others may also be concerned as to the reluctance of some reps to post and that is understandable.

Nevertheless, I tend to take the comments/criticisms of members here as something of an acid test. While personal insults are definitely not on, the casino reps should not shy away from answering the tougher questions. If they pass with flying colours, they are here to stay. If not 'get out of the kitchen'
 
well I go to the pratical.....
Ive made a deposit of 55 + bonus=110
Sofar Im at 700 spins no feature ...20 cents....my usually High roller style....and Ive been already called to give out my info :confused:, as I could ever rob em......lol.:lolup:and never asked for a cashout...how could I anyway:lolup:
This is just my experience with em ....sofar.
Just to keep you informed.....that's all.
No attack please....Im just trying to be helpfull......using my money......my money:o
 
Interesting Kakata im still playing the 50 they gave me and it seems ive hit bonus rounds in almost all the slots i played. I just got a email from lauren from club world offering me a bonus deposit on my first deposit for Aladdins Palace
 
Even I have a Limited company, maby the lawyer companies are the ones "managing" all the companies for all I know, LOL. In Norway we pay say $500 for a LTD company, then we can use that company to get the "tax benefits" of having a company in england, same goes for the other ones.

It's most likely just an address where the mail is forwarded to their "main" activity.
The whole purpose of the registered office is that legal documents can be served there, the company does not have to carry out any business activity there. For example, in the UK, sending court document to a company's registered office is an valid form of service.
 
Interesting Kakata im still playing the 50 they gave me and it seems ive hit bonus rounds in almost all the slots i played. I just got a email from lauren from club world offering me a bonus deposit on my first deposit for Aladdins Palace




Im happy 4 u.
Ive also played the 50....lol
Lauren from Club world:confused:
I just said what it was happening to me....that's all.
Good luck my etern love....:D
 
Hi Everyone

Im still the newbie on the block here so if I do anything wrong, just give me a shove lol.

Ive just cashed out on the Free50, so will let you know how it goes.

I like clubworld, Ill be pleased if theres a new site with the same reputation as them.

Please dont get me wrong though I completely can see where your all coming from, with your posts, but thought Id let you know I have done a cashout, I havent read the cashout times as yet so not sure how long its likely to take..
 
oops a little hiccup

Thought Id have a quick glance at the cashout times, only to see there was no neteller stated, its there as a withdrawl option, under withdraw, but seems they dont have it, so not sure what will happen there:eek2:
 
Sorry kakata if you took that the wrong way hun. I was just trying to see if there was a difference in the play on the slots from using the free 50 bonus verses real money deposit if the slots play looser. Im going to play off my 50 and make a deposit tonight and will see how it goes. It is strange though how if you get tossed a bonus no matter what type of casino rtg mg playtech rival 3d
the slots and games always seem to hit something to help you get through your playthrough. Soon as your close to finishing it or done and deposit all the bonus games free spins seem to vanish. Keep me posted on how your play is going and when i make my deposit i will post here how my play is. I take it I should send off my info again even though they are part of clubworld.
 
Sorry kakata if you took that the wrong way hun. I was just trying to see if there was a difference in the play on the slots from using the free 50 bonus verses real money deposit if the slots play looser. Im going to play off my 50 and make a deposit tonight and will see how it goes. It is strange though how if you get tossed a bonus no matter what type of casino rtg mg playtech rival 3d
the slots and games always seem to hit something to help you get through your playthrough. Soon as your close to finishing it or done and deposit all the bonus games free spins seem to vanish. Keep me posted on how your play is going and when i make my deposit i will post here how my play is. I take it I should send off my info again even though they are part of clubworld.

I didnt take it the wrong way at all....why should have I?:D
I have had the same results you had, everytime, when the end of wagering approches the slots go dead......:rolleyes:
 
I just noticed twice in a matter of 5 minutes, the RandomJackpot going back from 1063 to 1053 while playing funky monkey slot......:eek:
Same happened on Hot Shot!!!!!!
How would you guys call this kind of slots behavior?
Im speachless....if they can do that they can do anything
.....
I did take 2 screen shot....of course I dont know how to post em....I will as soon as my daughter come back home.
It happens repetedely as soon as the RJ reachs 1087 it goes back to 1073 ....lol
Unspeakable


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Maria: Hi Gianni!
gianni: Hi maria. what Im goin to tell you is unbealivable.You can check your self. I noticed while playing funky monkey and than hot shot slots that the random jackpot goes back to 1074 every time it reaches 1086....this is unacceptable and incredible that you guys have people playing and losing money while your slots behave this way.Ive taken screenshot of this matter of course It was noticed earlyer by another forum member at casinomeister and I couldnt believe it.....still it was true.
Maria: how are you?
Maria: Let me check, one moment please
gianni: by the way I meant big shot
gianni: it just did it again
gianni: ......and again
gianni: I hope you are looking at it the same way as Im looking at.....
Maria: Our software is tested and checked independently for Fairness by a Third Party, we have no control over how the games play out and it really isn't in our interests to have it. We just concentrate on giving our players the best customer service in the hope that you enjoy playing.
Maria: I understand the frustration in losing but we do have plenty of winners on all our games.
Maria: Anyway I,m gonna
Maria: report this
gianni: it does it all the time
Maria: to our management so they can check if there is any mistake in the system causing
Maria: that
gianni: plenty of winners that do receive less money they are suppose to get tho
gianni: thanx bye
 
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I just noticed twice in a matter of 5 minutes, the RandomJackpot going back from 1063 to 1053 while playing funky monkey slot......:eek:
Same happened on Hot Shot!!!!!!
How would you guys call this kind of slots behavior?
Im speachless....if they can do that they can do anything
.....
I did take 2 screen shot....of course I dont know how to post em....I will as soon as my daughter come back home.
It happens repetedely as soon as the RJ reachs 1087 it goes back to 1073 ....lol
Unspeakable


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Chat end time Oct 7, 2008 2:14:59 PM EST
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Maria: Hi Gianni!
gianni: Hi maria. what Im goin to tell you is unbealivable.You can check your self. I noticed while playing funky monkey and than hot shot slots that the random jackpot goes back to 1074 every time it reaches 1086....this is unacceptable and incredible that you guys have people playing and losing money while your slots behave this way.Ive taken screenshot of this matter of course It was noticed earlyer by another forum member at casinomeister and I couldnt believe it.....still it was true.
Maria: how are you?
Maria: Let me check, one moment please
gianni: by the way I meant big shot
gianni: it just did it again
gianni: ......and again
gianni: I hope you are looking at it the same way as Im looking at.....
Maria: Our software is tested and checked independently for Fairness by a Third Party, we have no control over how the games play out and it really isn't in our interests to have it. We just concentrate on giving our players the best customer service in the hope that you enjoy playing.
Maria: I understand the frustration in losing but we do have plenty of winners on all our games.
Maria: Anyway I,m gonna
Maria: report this
gianni: it does it all the time
Maria: to our management so they can check if there is any mistake in the system causing
Maria: that
gianni: plenty of winners that do receive less money they are suppose to get tho
gianni: thanx bye

Yea Kakata, it was me here that posted about this but no one seemed to pay it any attention...LOL Here

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/new-rtg-casino-aladdins-palace.27084/

I figured they would have already caught this by now...doe's none of these casinos ever check on their games to see that they are playing right and fair ...:rolleyes:
 
Hello peeps, gonna take a turn at this:D

I have been a depositing player at CW for 3-4 years and did NOT receive an email from AP nor any free 50 promo. Well, I'm kinda ballsy :D so DL the SW and signed up with same details as my CW account. Had nice live chat where I was offered $10 to try the games. :p Sorry Bryan but I used my CM "clout" to have them consider me for the free 50 and after the rep checked my CW history, she put 50 in my AP account.

Cool! Played that out for a few hours, had fun and wanted more :D Deposited $200 with no bonus and played a variety of RSVS and VP. Still have money left, actually have doubled my deposit :D. Did notice the RJ were kinda jiggy last night but they seem to have settled down to good behavior today. Ditto on retriggers :D

So what do I see as shocking? Well, a not guilty verdict (when you know the dude is guilty as hell) or the price of gas topping four bucks...........well that is shocking. A new casino, even if it is part of an established group, taking some time to set everything up, is not something I would consider shocking. Maybe I am just too mellow.;)
 
Hello peeps, gonna take a turn at this:D

I have been a depositing player at CW for 3-4 years and did NOT receive an email from AP nor any free 50 promo. Well, I'm kinda ballsy :D so DL the SW and signed up with same details as my CW account. Had nice live chat where I was offered $10 to try the games. :p Sorry Bryan but I used my CM "clout" to have them consider me for the free 50 and after the rep checked my CW history, she put 50 in my AP account.

Cool! Played that out for a few hours, had fun and wanted more :D Deposited $200 with no bonus and played a variety of RSVS and VP. Still have money left, actually have doubled my deposit :D. Did notice the RJ were kinda jiggy last night but they seem to have settled down to good behavior today. Ditto on retriggers :D

So what do I see as shocking? Well, a not guilty verdict (when you know the dude is guilty as hell) or the price of gas topping four bucks...........well that is shocking. A new casino, even if it is part of an established group, taking some time to set everything up, is not something I would consider shocking. Maybe I am just too mellow.;)

Sorry Suze, but they have NOT been fixed...I just made these two screenshots a few minutes ago and the other ones are doing the same thing or not moving at all...they run up to a certain amount and then drop back down, it has been like this since last week that I remember...why do these guys not just check their own games...

Trust me, I like Club World...I still play there about every other day, but this kind of thing is not good at all...

Edit: Just went back and checked it again on Big Shot and it had jumped up to $1,216.00 and then I watched it drop back to $1,075.00....:eek2:
 
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Hey Rob

I paid attention and even responded that I noticed it too. Anyway, I havnt made adeposit yet but I just might try it. I never count on the RJ anyway.

WTG Suzy, I hope you get some nice wins
 
Im glad someone else noticed this also. I thought last nite i was just tired from work i was in club world and i noticed that on green light. My other concern was i had free spins on one of the games added me a few extra spins and i did see i won on one of the spins but i got no credit for it but it all happened so fast i couldnt get a shot of it.
 
I notice the no moves on rj alot. I mean i cant be the only person playing the slot game. I just put money into the casino and i dunno folks really strange.
40 spins in one slot couldnt line first 2 reels up at all payout 0. Tried a few other slots and couldnt even see the scatter so i log out for now will give it another shot later.
 
My latest findings.
The slots , where you can see the RJ going up very fast, those are the ones with the problem and the jackpot goes back to a smaller amount.(honey to the bee or big shot or funky monkey etc etc...):mad::eek::confused:
Those where the RJ doesnt move are okay.....you have to log out and then relogin and you will find that the jackpot is higher....very little but higher tho:o
 
Has anyone been in Live Help regarding the RJ's resetting themselves back to lower amounts? If so, I was wondering what explanation you were given and what did AP say they were doing about it...

I signed up with a new account about 45 mins ago, went to Live Help, waited about 30 secs and was greeted nicely and given the Free 50 bonus to try things out. I went to the Prince of Sherwood slot, ran a few spins and noticed the "reset issue" was happening. I stopped playing and just watched the RJP climb at a high rate of speed only to see it reset again at a lower value. It reaches $1142 and resets back to $1129 continuously, I watched the cycle go on about 6 times and went back to Live Help. This time instead of 30 secs and a friendly greeting I got :

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Yeah, maybe their CS is overloaded and they can't get to me or perhaps when I went to Live Help I shouldn't have put in the comment box (before pressing send to iniate the chat) that the slot game I was playing keeps resetting it's RJP to a lower value... :eek:

BTW, I'm still in the same Live Help chat box and still haven't been helped :eek2:

Yeah yeah... I know I know, I'm beyond help :D
 
50 dollar free chip at Aladdin's Palace

Well I got a free 50 dollars at Aladdin's , played for about 30 minutes and didnt get one bonus spin. Played .40 per spin i think my biggest win was 2.40.:mad:
 
At least you got 30 minutes play time. Mine amounted to about 10 minutes. No bonus spins on the slots, and never more than 5x my bet.

So after losing almost half went to BJ and lost 7 of 8 hands to bust out.
But then thats pretty typical these days with RTG BJ.:mad:
 
Sorry Suze, but they have NOT been fixed...I just made these two screenshots a few minutes ago and the other ones are doing the same thing or not moving at all...they run up to a certain amount and then drop back down, it has been like this since last week that I remember...why do these guys not just check their own games...

Trust me, I like Club World...I still play there about every other day, but this kind of thing is not good at all...

Edit: Just went back and checked it again on Big Shot and it had jumped up to $1,216.00 and then I watched it drop back to $1,075.00....:eek2:


Gee Rob, don't know what to say that I haven't already said. A guess would be that the RJs work differently in fun mode vs. real mode?
 
Jackpot Tickers

Hi All,

The value of the Jackpot shown in the ticker at the top of the game is not an exact figure, it is an estimation based on the aggregate contributions made over the past few minutes. It would overload the game server to present the actual figures in real time.

For example, if there is a big player pulling $100 the jackpot ticker will start to increase rapidly however when the player moves on to another game it may take the ticker a few minutes to realise this and slow down accordingly. This can cause a difference between the actual jackpot amount and the value shown in the ticker.

The ticker compensates for this by ticking slower than the jackpot contributions to bring the value back to where it should be. Regardless, the ticker value is refreshed to the actual jackpot amount every few minutes to prevent these small fluctuations from persisting for any length of time. These are the reasons why some of you are noticing the jackpot ticker resetting to a lower amount or not increasing.

The more players who are playing the game the less pronounced this effect is, and please dont forget that at this stage we have only soft launched Aladdins Palace so action on each individual game can be sporadic.

If any of you have any further comments or questions please get in touch,

Kind Regards
Tom
 
Hi All,

The value of the Jackpot shown in the ticker at the top of the game is not an exact figure, it is an estimation based on the aggregate contributions made over the past few minutes. It would overload the game server to present the actual figures in real time.

For example, if there is a big player pulling $100 the jackpot ticker will start to increase rapidly however when the player moves on to another game it may take the ticker a few minutes to realise this and slow down accordingly. This can cause a difference between the actual jackpot amount and the value shown in the ticker.

The ticker compensates for this by ticking slower than the jackpot contributions to bring the value back to where it should be. Regardless, the ticker value is refreshed to the actual jackpot amount every few minutes to prevent these small fluctuations from persisting for any length of time. These are the reasons why some of you are noticing the jackpot ticker resetting to a lower amount or not increasing.

The more players who are playing the game the less pronounced this effect is, and please dont forget that at this stage we have only soft launched Aladdins Palace so action on each individual game can be sporadic.

If any of you have any further comments or questions please get in touch,

Kind Regards
Tom

Thanks for the response Tom, but it still does not make any sense...as I've been at other RTG casinos when they were first launched and never noticed this happening and for that matter I never see this happening now at Clubworld or INetBet or even Rushmore for that matter...

I still think this is something that you guys need to have the RTG techs look into if you have not already done so...

Also the statement below that you made...can you elaborate on that statement...Thanks

so action on each individual game can be sporadic
 
Those jackpots i.e.honey to the bee, big shot, are still doing the same and the jackpot is still at the same amount....the EXACT same amount it was 24 hours ago.
and still every 10/20 dollars it goes back to the same lower amount........!!!!????:eek:
So its not at all like Tom said....sorry Tom but this is the reality.:o
Go check for yourself....cause I have the impression you didnt yet.
BTW for members info.
There is no withdrawal by check nor wire or ach available for us in USA. Quick tender or ewallett are the only options.
I assume for low roller like me its not the best option due the hi cost of QT withrawal fees ($30)unless of course a RJ hit.....what will be the amount though we would eventually win in one of those RJ its still a mistery. Anybody can login right now and see that the problem is still there, right now. Up to 1095/99 back to 1074......:eek:
 
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I played last night and RJ's are all over the place, either not moving or going up rapidly and resetting.
As RobWin says I have never seen this at any other RTG before so what is diferent here?
Also I have not seen One RJ that has gone up by $200+ since the soft launch.
Surely some should be over $2000 by now?

As for gameplay, I hit nothing at all for a few hundred spins then finally hit a decent feespin feature.
Everything was middle of the Road after that with a steady general decline.
All the usual RTG indiosyncrasies were in place along with the new and wonderful "Guess the Jackpot game"
 
Ive been personally rewarded by TOM.....he closed my account cause Ive reversed my withdraw and lost it and because I had the stone face to complain about being robbed with a 50% RTP.
He was right....I deserved it.:rolleyes::thumbsup:
Who lost at the end? who knows....!!!!


Dear Gianni,

I have read through your recent emails and live chats with our customer services team and it is clear that you are not happy with me and my staff.

Despite our best efforts you are obviously dissatisfied, and from the tone of your communications I think it is best that we part company and avoid any further conflicts. As such I have closed your account with Aladdins Palace.

I sincerely wish you all the best for the future,

Kind Regards
Tom
 
Ive been personally rewarded by TOM.....he closed my account cause Ive reversed my withdraw and lost it and because I had the stone face to complain about being robbed with a 50% RTP.
He was right....I deserved it.:rolleyes::thumbsup:
Who lost at the end? who knows....!!!!

:lolup::lolup::lolup:

Oh Man, you have been barred from more places than I have ever been a member, Kudos :thumbsup:
 
Aladdins Palace

Hi everyone,

Just thought I'd post my 2 cents worth.

Last week (Oct. 11ish), I received via snail mail a software cd and a letter from Aladdins Palace Casino offering me a free gift of $90.00 with "Zero Strings Attatched" (aside from the regular playthrough). I think the playthrough was 1500 or1800, I can't remember, but after a week I've cleared the playthrough and have a balance of $300.

I haven't tried to make a withdrawl yet. To be honest, I expected to have some fun, lose the free $90 and be on my merry way. I never look forward to trying a withdrawl from a new casino and I'll let you know what happens.
BTW, I still have the letter they sent to me and can post it if needed.

In conclusion, I've had alot of fun playing this casino, had pretty good luck hitting bonuses on several games, in fact I hit one playing Goldbeard for $160 betting $.40/line.
It all comes down to what happens at withdrawl time.

Take care all,
-Ironjaw-
 
Update - Withdrawl Attempt

Hi again friends,

I was going to post and update you about my cashout experience so far, but I thought I'd better contact their customer support and give them a chance at explaining a few things. What I was led to believe and what I am now being told just doesn't jibe. I'll post an update as soon as possible.

Bye for now,
-Ironjaw-
 

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