New Slot Announcement New 3Dice Slot - Twin Spin - Sorry, Gemini......

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On the one hand, I always liked Twin Spin so I like Gemini too.

On the other hand, not exactly an original creation......

NetEnt should be very flattered by this homage though.

 
On the one hand, I always liked Twin Spin so I like Gemini too.

On the other hand, not exactly an original creation......

NetEnt should be very flattered by this homage though.



Your top pay is 27x 5OAK diamonds @ 1080x bet.
Second, 54x 5OAK Bars (3rd. highest symbol) at 864x
Third 16x 5OAK diamonds (this will come in with last 4 reels joined with diamond-10-wild visible and cherry-10-diamond first reel for 651x bet!!
Fourth 27x 7's (2nd highest symbol) 540x
You can't get 18 ways of diamonds but it's possible to get 48 ways cherries 480x bet.
It's possible to get 24x 7's too for 480x bet.
27x Bars 432x
Best full screen is A,K or Q at 388.8x bet.
You can get 8 or 9OAK diamonds at 320 or 360x respectively.

I have had all those wins except the top pay....
 
On the one hand, I always liked Twin Spin so I like Gemini too.

On the other hand, not exactly an original creation......

NetEnt should be very flattered by this homage though.


There are at least a dozen copies out there aside from the latest 3Dice incarnation:

Sync Reels by Booongo
Double Happiness, Lucky Clover by SA Gaming
Double Cash by Fugaso
Fa Fa Twins by Betsoft
Neon Classic by Platea by Platipus Gaming
Cabaret by MGA
Twin Reels by Altea Gaming
Smoking Dogs by Fugaso
Sisters of Luck by Nucleus Gaming
Jazz Spin, Fresh Fortune by BeeFee

Of course, Gnatent themselves cloned it with Fantasini Master of Mystery, but their first model of this mechanic wasn't actually Twin Spin, but VEGAS PARTY!!

As Michael Caine said, "Not a lot of people know that..."
 
I played it with the bonus that followed, but it was dead to me. :confused:

I got only 3 expanding 4 liners and they were all empty. :puke:

They have other much better games. :thumbsup:
 
There are at least a dozen copies out there aside from the latest 3Dice incarnation:

Sync Reels by Booongo
Double Happiness, Lucky Clover by SA Gaming
Double Cash by Fugaso
Fa Fa Twins by Betsoft
Neon Classic by Platea by Platipus Gaming
Cabaret by MGA
Twin Reels by Altea Gaming
Smoking Dogs by Fugaso
Sisters of Luck by Nucleus Gaming
Jazz Spin, Fresh Fortune by BeeFee

Of course, Gnatent themselves cloned it with Fantasini Master of Mystery, but their first model of this mechanic wasn't actually Twin Spin, but VEGAS PARTY!!

As Michael Caine said, "Not a lot of people know that..."

I guess there are no licensing style issues or suchlike then, unlike the MEGAWAYS ENGINE which BTG demand to be paid for.

I wondered if there was a point at which a 'tribute' to an existing slot crossed the line into blatant thievery but obviously not!

Personally speaking I've always rather liked Twin Spin so I'm quite pleased 3Dice have their own version of it now.
 
I guess there are no licensing style issues or suchlike then, unlike the MEGAWAYS ENGINE which BTG demand to be paid for.

I wondered if there was a point at which a 'tribute' to an existing slot crossed the line into blatant thievery but obviously not!

Personally speaking I've always rather liked Twin Spin so I'm quite pleased 3Dice have their own version of it now.
I think it's more down to the mechanic and maths of Megaways being far harder to reverse engineer or copy. As @trancemonkey has said often, you cannot patent the maths of a slot. CasinoR*wards have a dodgy provider now who has copied DHV and also Megaways but of course called it something different. So BTG licensing the trademarked version out to numerous other providers before it was plagiarised was a good move.
 
Unfortunately the video really caught this slot in a foul mood, but of course Twin Spin was notoriously vicious if you played it at the wrong time, despite its modest top prize.

I put some of the best wins from the previous session at the end of the video, but I also deposited another £100 yesterday evening and kicked it off on 25p spins, balance went up and down a bit, peaking at £120, and after an hour's play I was back at £100 so I left it there for the session.

I honestly think 3Dice should change their volatility rating for this game, having it at 1 chilli (same as Payola, Wild Waves and Industria, amongst others) is going lead some of the regulars suffering a nasty kicking or two IMO.
 
Unfortunately the video really caught this slot in a foul mood, but of course Twin Spin was notoriously vicious if you played it at the wrong time, despite its modest top prize.

I put some of the best wins from the previous session at the end of the video, but I also deposited another £100 yesterday evening and kicked it off on 25p spins, balance went up and down a bit, peaking at £120, and after an hour's play I was back at £100 so I left it there for the session.

I honestly think 3Dice should change their volatility rating for this game, having it at 1 chilli (same as Payola, Wild Waves and Industria, amongst others) is going lead some of the regulars suffering a nasty kicking or two IMO.
Netent have it as a medium-variance game, so why 3Dice say it's low, I do not know.
 
Come on 3Dice, surely you can do better than this..

An almost identical clone from a different provider? The least you could of done is
change up some of the mechanics and pay structure.

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There's nothing "unique" about this release other than the graphics.. and even that (gems) have been
played out by nearly all providers.

I hope you step your game up with the next release :)
 
Yes it is a little bit disappointing in that regard, especially when you look at games such as Berrini's Fortune, Tesla and Enchanted Spins, which really are unique creations. (Well, as far as I'm aware, anyway!)

And yet they still haven't remade Kyoko's Quest for the new platform! (I've got emails going back two years asking them about that one..... and it was on the 'to do' list back then apparently :D )
 
Hi Chopley,

Thank you for giving Gemini a try and for the review as well ( you know I appreciate those video's ).
What can I say about Pon Pon?! You're not the only one requesting Kyoko back. Some of our players actually started a petition a while back (
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) :).

So I promise that I will do my best lobbying for it :).

Kind regards,
Anna
 
Thanks Anna :D

Why has Kyoko's Quest not come back already? It was such a good game and seemed to be fairly popular with your player base from what I could tell.

I appreciate there's a development cost to everything and that it's choosing where to spend those resources, but Kyoko's Quest always seemed to be a very strange omission to me.

Ahhh well, maybe I will get to rescue Pon Pon again one day.
 
Wouldn't bloody well do this for the video would it?......

259x stake so not incredible, but best so far. Also not a full screen as I'm missing a King on reel 5.

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Although I tend not to trust slots without a free spins feature, and wasn't exactly bowled over by Twit Spit's splendour, it is gratifying to see good old-fashioned slots without airs and graces, and that are more old-school in their approach.

One forgets it's the 100 & 200xs that would build a session and bankroll, back in the days when it was an artform, as opposed to today's boom-or-bust (bust) planet destroyers.

Even if in Gemini's case it erm takes losing 'a bit' before it reciprocates :eek2:
 
Although I tend not to trust slots without a free spins feature, and wasn't exactly bowled over by Twit Spit's splendour, it is gratifying to see good old-fashioned slots without airs and graces, and that are more old-school in their approach.

One forgets it's the 100 & 200xs that would build a session and bankroll, back in the days when it was an artform, as opposed to today's boom-or-bust (bust) planet destroyers.

Even if in Gemini's case it erm takes losing 'a bit' before it reciprocates :eek2:

Absolutely, and this is why I honestly have very little interest in 'lottery style' HV monsters. I want fun, I want features, I want a decent chance of hitting respectable wins on a fairly regular basis.

By all means have the crazy HV stuff for folks who like it, but those games just aren't for me. (Although I think there's a reason 3Dice don't make any games with anything like a DOA2 style maths model.)

And you're quite right about the 'building' too, I started again on Gemini this evening with £100, and it's more than doubled that to over £200, all on 25p spins, with that 259x being the single biggest win.

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Yes it is a little bit disappointing in that regard, especially when you look at games such as Berrini's Fortune, Tesla and Enchanted Spins, which really are unique creations. (Well, as far as I'm aware, anyway!)

And yet they still haven't remade Kyoko's Quest for the new platform! (I've got emails going back two years asking them about that one..... and it was on the 'to do' list back then apparently :D )
One huge feather in 3Dice's cap is the fact they haven't sunk to the level of most other developers, ripping off Novomatics Book of Ra Deluxe formula. The day they bring us that nonsense, I think it's all over.
 
243x stake for a full screen of 10s.

I'm not really 'playing' the game as such, I'm actually sat on the couch playing Ghost Of Tsushima on my PS4 Pro, but 3Dice's autoplayer is so configurable I can comfortably have it going as well and I just cast my eye over when it does something interesting.

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View from the couch.

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243x stake for a full screen of 10s.

I'm not really 'playing' the game as such, I'm actually sat on the couch playing Ghost Of Tsushima on my PS4 Pro, but 3Dice's autoplayer is so configurable I can comfortably have it going as well and I just cast my eye over when it does something interesting.

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View from the couch.

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Care to kindly show some snippets of your PS4 GOT exploits on your other thread? I'd quite like to see that, if you're doing requests

Hey, you mentioned it. Don't shoot the messenger!
 
Care to kindly show some snippets of your PS4 GOT exploits on your other thread? I'd quite like to see that, if you're doing requests

Hey, you mentioned it. Don't shoot the messenger!

The videos I make about videogames for my channel go down about as well as 'a wet fart in a spacesuit', to steal from Billy Connolly.

However, I am intending to make a video as a three way review/comparison for three PS4 exclusives - Death Stranding, The Last Of Us 2, and Ghost of Tsushima once I've finished it.

(SPOILER ALERT - Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsushima are the best games out of the three.)

Also I know Death Stranding is now on PC as well :)

But yes, that video will be along in due course, and it'll get several dislikes within the first half an hour of it being online, i.e. before those folks have even watched it :D
 
The videos I make about videogames for my channel go down about as well as 'a wet fart in a spacesuit', to steal from Billy Connolly.

However, I am intending to make a video as a three way review/comparison for three PS4 exclusives - Death Stranding, The Last Of Us 2, and Ghost of Tsushima once I've finished it.

(SPOILER ALERT - Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsushima are the best games out of the three.)

Also I know Death Stranding is now on PC as well :)

But yes, that video will be along in due course, and it'll get several dislikes within the first half an hour of it being online, i.e. before those folks have even watched it :D
Just post the video game content here. I'm sure the YT gambling contingent wouldn't want to see games vids, as they clearly on the whole care only about gambling. But it's worth doing here at least, if you like/ have the time :thumbsup:
 
The videos I make about videogames for my channel go down about as well as 'a wet fart in a spacesuit', to steal from Billy Connolly.

However, I am intending to make a video as a three way review/comparison for three PS4 exclusives - Death Stranding, The Last Of Us 2, and Ghost of Tsushima once I've finished it.

(SPOILER ALERT - Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsushima are the best games out of the three.)

Also I know Death Stranding is now on PC as well :)

But yes, that video will be along in due course, and it'll get several dislikes within the first half an hour of it being online, i.e. before those folks have even watched it :D

It wouldn't even cross my mind to dislike a video of content I don't even watch... Some people :rolleyes:
 
@3Dice

3Dice have made a couple changes to this game, although one of them is (I think?) temporary for the Halloween period.

As you can see, it's linked into the promotional sitewide progressive which as I understand it is funded from outside the slot's actual RTP. (i.e. There's no progressive contribution taken from the slot's RTP, and is funded by 3Dice themselves as an 'extra'.)

I'd definitely like clarity on where the RTP is coming from for the sitewide progressive though.

The other change is a little bit more interesting, in that they've rejigged the reels to increase the maximum payout by over 300%, to give the game a top prize of over 3000x stake. (In fairness this information is conveyed via a popup that you have to click through the first time you load the game on any device after the change was made.)

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However, at the same time they've also slightly REDUCED the game's RTP.

Here's a capture from the video I made when the slot was released.

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And here's the RTP now.

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Now obviously there's only one way to increase the top prize without changing the RTP, and that's to increase the volatility, although the game's 'chilli rating' remains at two chillies.

To increase the volatility whilst also reducing the RTP (albeit only very slightly) doesn't exactly delight me, as I felt the volatility of Gemini (ahem..... Twin Spin.....) was already at about the outer edges of what I enjoy in a slot.

I'd like to know how much the pay profile of the slot has changed overall (it could be tiny, and that 3000x stake win could be a billion to one shot), and also why the change couldn't have been made without negatively affecting the RTP. It's possible that the new reel configuration to allow for the 3000x win simply introduced the RTP reduction as a side effect.

I've chucked a decent number of spins through it in demo play and it feels the same, but I'm always slightly wary of a slot being changed that I'm very familiar with, although I appreciate that 3Dice have at least been open and upfront with the changes.

(They've changed Berrini's Fortune too, I'll cover that separately.)
 
I should note here that Anna from 3Dice has emailed me to let me know she's read the above post but is currently out hiking so will reply tomorrow when she's back in the office :)

Thanks Anna :)
 

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