love2winalot's systems

Actually to those who play roulette the method makes alot of sense. It capitalizes on uneven distribution such as 3, 3, 3, you see these in every sitting of roulette EVERY sitting of roulette.

"It'll never work" I know say's love2winalot as he stuffs another wad of bills under his mattress.

I've taken the same stance I believe you could post her 1 million spins thoroughly explain where, how and why you won over the last 10 years and some joe schmuck would say it's all bullshit and just luck.

The wisest advice he posted was to preserve capital through the losing streak
Your own strategy and method of play will work just fine if you manage to do this one simple thing. (unless your strategy is martingale til the table limit)

EVERY successful roulette strategy combines cutting losses and patiently recouping them but why am I doing this? Total waste of time the smart ones are memorizing and adapting the method all this is speaking to is the die hard nay sayer's. The bloke's who'll quote every person who say's it can't work, won't work and if it does it's luck.

Well I guess some of us got horseshoe's up our ass and 4 leaf clovers in every pocket.
 
Frankly, I don't care if you're telling the truth or not. I do care that some people will take what you and your entourage say as gospel, play in real mode, and lose what they can't afford to lose...all because there's been a barrage of threads and posts by 3 or 4 people on a topic that has been debunked time and again.


Amen.

There are NO systems that can "beat the system" at any on line casinos. Yes, you might get lucky. And yes, you might lose your a$$. Anything else is simply wishful thinking, it is random whether you win or lose.

If you need to "pretend" that so-an-so's system will make you win, Cool. The proof will be in your pocketbook, sooner or later.

Good Luck with that. :D
 
Hiya: I bet I drank more beer today, than the last 5 posters combined? hehehe

For the last time, I have a disclaimer, I have posted till my head hurts, "Play in Free mode first". How many here ran as fast as they could when thunderstruct 2 came out? How many tried it in free mode first?

I love Swampy, and agree with others posters that she does not post enough. I am not a Lucky person. A lucky person would Win sometimes when making large bets, and I have never won doing that. A lucky person would win on a football parly card, at least once in a while, and i have lost over 100 times in a row, and Never won. and so on.....................

To nash. My profile says that because it is true. An amatour does things, and does not get paid for it. If you invest in stocks, and have lost money, and are at a net loss, you are not a professional stock trader, are you? I use the word Professional based on doing something, "anything", and making a profit while doing it. This may not be the websters definition, but it is mine.

This is not gospel. This is not my post. I was asked a question, and I answerd that question. Why? Well most post here are negative. I am, like others, tired of it. I even posted in winning screen shots, betvoyager pic's, while i was in the philippines.

I believe that being Positive, does not help you win more, or win faster. I also believe that being Negative does cause you to lose more, and lose faster. So, I choose to be Positive. In Everything.

This is what usually happens. People will try it out. They will win some money. But, at some point, that Streak, "the one that takes your bankroll", will come along, and they will lose. Almost everyone just gives up at this point, and or tries something else. I have lost my bankroll a few times. This is, after all, Gambling.

PS: If you look at the method, and see the first stopping point, you notice, the total lost by the set is a whopping $44. :eek:
 
Thanks for your time and effort love2winalot.:notworthy

As for luck, to find anything on this planet that is 100% foolproof is so far impossible, so to say someone has a system that can guarantee 100% success is foolish, BUT so too is the contrary argument that says it isn't possible for anyone to guarantee themselves success at gambling. As there are always exceptions to the rule that defy the odds - why didn't the man who was stung by over 100 killer bees die????; why is someone successfully making a living from gambling????).

When considering questions such as what are we? why are we here? and what the hell are we supposed to be doing? we cannot be guaranteed answers that are 100% true. And, of course, the more we discover the more things change. What is important is working with what we know NOW to work toward achieving the closest score to 100%.

To me luck is another word for how to live, it is attitude. And I do agree with others that the purpose of luck and mindset in this arena is extremely important. It has been scientifically proven, (to date) that attitude can manipulate one's body and experiences. Placebo therapies can and do cure terminal illnesses. Positive thinking can and does create positive experiences. Why? Who knows, science is still working on it. Without going to the extreme of becoming a cult victim in a "new age group where everybody loves everybody and everything so that all will be well", we are foolish to not use tried and tested information that has proven positive results so far.

So, combining a good strategy with luck (feel for the game) - which is translated here as a positive, controlled attitude with tinges of fear as opposed to fearful, scary, desperate, wanna get rich quick betting - will definitely bring rewards! And that's a fact! But remember you are responsible for your own luck - you can't blame someone or something else if you do not master the techniques successfully.

Have fun everyone, but if ya wanna get serious, do the homework in all areas not just number crunching! Cheers.
 
Frankly, I don't care if you're telling the truth or not. I do care that some people will take what you and your entourage say as gospel, play in real mode, and lose what they can't afford to lose...all because there's been a barrage of threads and posts by 3 or 4 people on a topic that has been debunked time and again.



Which is precisely why I feel Max or Bryan should lock, or better yet, delete this crap. If systems worked people would keep the info to themselves while getting insanely rich and the casinos would shut down the games where such systems can be used. Think people!
 
That's absolutely right Stacey if they're hell bent on debunking then do just that. I've been giving some thought to this consistent argument "it's random but the numbers level out long term" At Wizard of odd's there's 1 million spins posted all showing 26 thousand somthing for every number (whatever it is all close as per 1 million spins. )

So if you had a million bucks and played a million spins all same color you'd be down 26 grand because of the zero. Somtimes you'd be up somtimes you'd be down.

For argument's sake let's say there's 100 identifiable patterns (just a number)
each pattern should appear 10000 times. (pattern's are R,B,R,B R,R,R, B,B,B,etc.) Let's say you firmly believe in this law of averages (numbers will even out long term as will patterns) So your super winning, to die for sequence WILL appear 10 thousand times. You don't know when and you don't know where but you know it WILL appear.

If you kept track of the random distribution of patterns and saw some were away ahead of others in appearance Then you would know the other patterns have a higher probability of appearing. You have such a hefty bank roll that it's a non issue. A patient and intelligent gambler would capitalize on this.

Now Debunk it The Wizard of odds who is well trusted has shown over the course of 1 million spins the numbers average out within a few hundred of each other therefore the color distribution averages out as well.

A roulette strategy and method player KNOWS beyond a shadow of a doubt their sequence will appear as equally as every other sequence just not when.

Because of the randomness and law of averages we should feel secure in 100 thousand spins of seeing the sequence fairly regularly. in this example 1000 times. roughly every 100 spins maybe (200, 100, 50, 150 so on and so forth)

We win (profit) when it hit's and do our best to stay flat when it does not.
Not a difficult task provided you don't get impatient and can't SLOWLY recoup.

on 1 million spins you want to add 50% to your bank roll you need to make 50 bucks every time your sequence comes up. You need to not lose when it does not. (what is it 1/10 of a percent roughly)

10000 times your sequence will hit 26000 times a zero will hit 90000 times an alternative sequence will hit.

When you put it in huge numbers you see you don't need to make a huge profit each time to come out ahead but you need to keep it.

Now you see with love2winalot his sequence WE KNOW comes up 10 000 times his pay out is large when it does hit his losses are minimal when it doesn't.

DAMAGE CONTROL is the most important aspect not the winning sequence because it's been PROVEN it will show. it's just a matter of time.

We use rational progression to minimize short term loss to compensate for our inability to be correct 100 percent of the time.
 
Hiya: If someone wants to bet more than they can afford to lose, "THEN THATS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO". We have all seen it here. And it was NOT Roulette, or anyone here telling them to do so. How many here have quit gambling because they always lost, and sometimes lost a lot? I have seen a guy in a real casino, "more than once", at the BJ table, yelling at his wife to give him more money. Was this because he had a system, or was it because he had a proablem?:confused:

Takethemoney is incorrect. There are hundreds of Books at gamblers general store on different games/systems/methods of play and so on. Poker as example. Phil helmuth wrote a poker book. 2 years ago, he lost at an early table and said, "Nice Play", to the local unknown guy that beat him. The Guy responed, 'I just did what YOUR BOOK told me to do". this was on ESPN. Why would anyone write a book on Poker, while then having to play AGAINST people who bought the book?:what:

No casino will take Roulette off the floor. No matter how much money someone wins at it, or how often. "It is All Luck". You do not remove a game, because someone got lucky. At worse, you would just remove the player.
if you want this thread deleted, then you have to delete evry thread on this board, starting with Winning Screenshots. I guarentee you, that for every person who tries to play Roulette, based on my post, there are hundreds playing Slots, based on Winning screenshots, Thinking, 'Wow, if they can do it, so can I".

If it is OK to ask, "How many lines are betting on that slot machine, and how much money did you deposit to get that Win"? Then it is also OK to ask, "How did you increase your bankroll in Roulette"?

To take it a step further, since all games are negative exception, why are affiliates allowed here? Why is it OK, to send people to a casino, have them Lose, and get 30% of their losses for sending them to the casino in the first place? If someone looses their money at Roulette, I get Nothing. if someone Wins money at Roulette, i also get Nothing.

Good Luck to all of you, in whatever game you are playing. .....:thumbsup:
 
Honestly, I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading here. How many of you believe the world is 5000 years old, or that it's flat, or that dinosaurs lived with humans? C'mon - this is ridiculous!

Roulette is, always has been, always will be - a game of chance. SYSTEMS THAT BEAT ROULETTE DO NOT EXIST. I prefer to call systems "styles" of playing which have no bearing on the outcome.

Which is precisely why I feel Max or Bryan should lock, or better yet, delete this crap. If systems worked people would keep the info to themselves while getting insanely rich and the casinos would shut down the games where such systems can be used. Think people!

Some of you need to reread this:
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Winning systems do not exist.
 
A device, however, can beat the system in land-based casinos. I understand that the device could very accurately locate which sector the ball was going to land after it started spinning on the wheel and the players will bet heavily in that sector. While the exact location/number cannot be known, betting on the sector was good enough and a gang reaped huge winnings using this method several years ago.
 
To be honest, I think it is possible to beat REAL Roulette through "Visual Tracking". But be ready to maka a lot of statistics on "this" particular wheel and do a lot of training and learning.

Here is an example how it works :)

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Hiya: Wheel tracking is actually quite common here in las vegas. So much so, that all Station casino's will alternate between the big/small Roulette ball every spin. I have seen players use this method all the time. I tried to use it, and put a lot of work into it many years ago. It failed.

If the ball is landing by -27-1-10-25-36-13-00, as example, You still end up with 1+27 hitting more than normal, and 00+10 not hitting at all. Now if tyou want to have some fun at a casino expense, "true story", do what this guy did at palace Station a few years ago.

Play a section of the wheel. Just wait for that section to be hitting. make a few bigger bets. Color up your chips. Tip the dealer. "Thanks, you did good". and reply, 'It is easy when you play against a wheel that is out of balance".........:D hehehehe.

The Pit Boss imeadately closed the table, moved all of us to the adjacent table, and 5 minites later, maintenance was at that Wheel with levels, and other such equipment..............It was great.:D
 
Well, looks like I'm one of the few (or many?) unlucky one.

I was one of the few waiting for Love2winalot's method to try and was really excited yesterday when I saw it. Couldn't give it a try until today even though I had some questions about it.

I decided to play it until the end of the progression (12 bets) but played it with a starting bet of 0.5 instead of 1 since my BR was 1800 and I was playing at betvoyager (max bet is 10 per number). U tok this risk because this BR is 100% casino's money since I already made more that I deposited.

After a hour and a half playing, I lost the 12 step bet (a lost of 416) and was so angry that I decided to keep betting one more step to ease the pain of losing this much. I lost that bet also (so lost 586). Next spin was a win, didn't play it. BR now at 1315. Needless to say I am angry at myself right now. Oh yeah this was on their even chances (no zero) roulette.

I need to think about this but not right now (too angry at myself) and I may post some question later.

I'm pretty sure next poster will use this icon :lolup:
 
Hiya: Sorry you lost some money. But, the table did say what happens if make the 11th or 12th bet, "max table bet", and lose that bet. It also said this will happen sometimes. It also said, it could happen in the very first 12 spins. It took 90 minites to happen to you. It might take 5 minites to happen to the next guy, or it might take 3 weeks? I did say, "It will happen".

You still have over 1300e left, and you lost how many bets in a row? Playing any differntly, and losing that many bets in a row, what would have left? If it was, 'I would be broke, then keep playing this way. If it is, I would have lost a hell of a lot less, then go back to what you were doing before.

Goodluck, no matter what you do,
 
OOP"S you should have played practice and asked the clarity questions before. And then when you got pissy you should have logged out. Oh well we're all guilty of getting mad and betting and losing even more. It is more of a high roller system in my opinion. for low rollers I'd suggest basic such as an alternating colors progression and when martingale get's to the point your uncomfortable betting more bet 25% of last wager on another outside bet for a progression. Helps you avoid the streak that'll wipe you out.

one that's stupid simple is to bet all outside bet's alternating after each win when progression get's too high for your risk level go on to the next one and start over. if you stay exclusive to one outside bet eventually a sequence will hit and hurt. By constantly changing you lower your chances of getting stuck in a run that will damage you.

I use about 8 different strategies in a session of roulette never committing to one indefinitely and faithfully. This overall reduces my chances of getting stuck in a losing bet.

This is what I've been trying to emphasize is to use love2winalot's method ADAPTED to your style of play. A betting style only comes after playing for awhile so if you've never or rarely play roulette use it in practice mode and get a method going.
 
I happy with love2winalots "style" :) of playing. Used it in practice mode and played seven separate games. Total profit was $2,768.00. This amount is only because I was in play mode and I decided to experiment and keep going in games when normally I would stop when I reached my target, (being somewhere between $80-$150 with this "style" of play).

1 game saw me up $445, (I would have stopped but decided to run it through for the exercise) and was down $105.

1 game I was up $368 on spin 12 with #26 hit and a win. I was curious about last 16 numbers so plugged in spin 12 again and #26 hit again. Play money, so curiosity got the cat and plugged in spin 12 again, don't ya love it #26 hit again. Did three more spin 12's and won two of them. This of course accounts for well over a grand of the overall profit.

However, regardless of the "lady luck" entertainment above, during all seven games I always reached a profit of around $100 somewhere throughout the sets. This is when I would have stopped with real play, turned off computer and said cheers love2winalot - great day at the office! :thumbsup:

Will put it to the test for a month now instead of my combination style of play (which saw me pulling out after reaching $30 target). I'm looking forward to the exercise to determine the net profit overall - as I am confident there will be one.
 
Hiya: Sorry you lost some money. But, the table did say what happens if make the 11th or 12th bet, "max table bet", and lose that bet. It also said this will happen sometimes. It also said, it could happen in the very first 12 spins. It took 90 minites to happen to you. It might take 5 minites to happen to the next guy, or it might take 3 weeks? I did say, "It will happen".

You still have over 1300e left, and you lost how many bets in a row? Playing any differntly, and losing that many bets in a row, what would have left? If it was, 'I would be broke, then keep playing this way. If it is, I would have lost a hell of a lot less, then go back to what you were doing before.

Goodluck, no matter what you do,

Ok my madness has passed (must be the incredible heat wave that slowed my mind!) so here comes the question, even though your original post about the method seem to be deleted, good thing I saved it :thumbsup:

Oh Yeah, first, I've taken the decision to only play 5 steps, may be slower but I'm not risking $450 again anytime soon.


Question 1 : Before posting your method, you teased us by saying this :

To plan ahead, you need a $400 Total bare bones bankroll to play this method. You will play in sets. The most money you can lose in a set is $145.
Initial results from wizardofodds spins, "first 2 lines' is 95 Wins, and 7 losses.
Using $1 bets as the starting point, net gain after losses is $757. This comes out to around 3 hours of continual play.

Was that about the 5 steps only? Because 400 is not a lot but with 5 steps you only lose $44 at a time so I guess it was. But then 95 wins and 7 losses is a lot for the 5 steps! I didn't check the numbers yet!


Question 2 : You talk about set (111 spins) at the beginning but never mention if you play all 111 spins everytime or if you stop when you reach a goal (say $100)


Question 3 : You say that if you lose the 5 steps ($44 lost), you wait for a # to repeat anywhere on the scoreboard. But what if the number that come up hasn't came up for 50+ spins? That seems risky, especially if you play all 111 spins and your are at spin 90, you will almost always hit a number that had already hit. Is that how you play?


Question 4 : What do you do if you start a game and get a repeat in the first 5 spins, do you spin a 6th time to get 5 different numbers or do you quit?

Final Question : Is there anything that can make you feel that a set is not going to be good and make you quit early, like a lot of lost in the beginning of a set? I'm asking because when I lost the 12 steps, I had a difficult run a couple of spin before (won on step 10) and got a feeling that the game would end badly, and it did!


So if you could find the time to answer at least a couple of my questions (#3 would be the most important :p) that would be great!
 
I used the strategy today and made an easy 400. A slight variation though I might add bet 5 on the last 5 then 6-7-8-9 consecutively then 2-3-4- dollars consecutively on the numbers employed as per the method then cleared and went 10 dollars on the last 5 then 6-7-8-9 going through the method with the higher bet. Almost every time I got paid before the 3-4 dollar per number mark.

The modification was based on ignorance only as I didn't memorize the method and only bet to stay in a consistent profit.

I'll add it to my bag of tricks and use it along with my other strategies.
Thank's love2winalot.
 
:eek: UNBELIEVABLE :eek:

Yesterday night, before going to bed, I decided to play one game on an european roulette to see if my luck was better than with no zero. First one there was a repeat in the first five spins and was a little anxious so decided not to play. Quit the game and start a new one. Then comes what you see in the picture.

Yep, another 12 step lost (17 different numbers in a row). I must be the unluckiest person on earth :mad:

BUT, fortunately, I was playing 5 steps, so only lost $44 :D

I was able to regain this lost (and another) with unbelievable streak of win inside the 5 steps, it just keep hitting and hitting, made 60$ in the end (although didn't play all 111 spins)

So my advice : forget about the 12 steps, way to risky! Imagine I could have lost $2000+ if I had played with the indicated bet size. It would take forever to regain. So play 5 steps, 7 steps or maybe 9 if you like risks, but not more.
 
Well, either I am unluckiest person in the universe, or I didn`t understande exactly how to play (see my questions) and that`s why I'm losing. Today I played a full set (108 spins) at betvoyager no zero (to improve my chances) with 5 steps only. Here's my results (L mean lost the 5 steps, 1-2-3-4-5 means I won at this steps) :

L2L131444L1LL1L22LLLL51L

That's 11 lost and 13 win. Playing with the indicated money ($1 four times and $2 last step), I would have lost $178. I didn't play it like that. After the third lost in a row, since I remembered Love2winalot wrote that he has never seen more than 3 lost in a row with 5 steps, I decided to bet $5 each number and 10 final steps. I lost that ($220). I played like that next bet and won at step 5 (I was sweating, and no it wasn't the heat wave!).

Overall, I came up -246. The highest I went was +47 I'm now at $1268 and I don't know if I should continue to play 5 steps just to see if this was a bad session, or if I stop and continue to play like I was playing even though it is more of a hassle because I have to write down numbers but hey, at least I won money like this!

I need advices please, was this a typical bad session? How many bad sessions like this can I expect in 100 sessions? Is everybody else but me are making profit with this method?
 
@han

This is a strategy, not a sure fire money maker. Strategy's in war win and loose..

Did it mean it was good or bad? Nope, just use the word "Style" instead.

Is called Gambling, not winning...
 
Han_solo, you appear to have ignored the warnings from the more mathematically sound among us and have learnt the hard way that there is no such thing as a winning roulette system.

Are you gonna listen now?

I suggest write off that loss as gone forever and only carry on gambling if you are actually doing it for fun. Gambling to win back losses is a very dangerous game and only leads one way...
 
I'd tone it down Hans solo, Do what works and track the winalot method on paper to see how it would fair in another session. It's obvious the varience is against you right now.
 

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