Non-Bonus Complaint ...Let The Fun Begin - Re: Banned States & MG

winbig

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thanks win for looking up my ip addy:thumbsup: im now a resident of st. louis, mo:D and nash is in new jersey:eek: lol, we only live 30 minutes away from each other, so how can this be, im still lost on this ip stuff?................pewter dummy , laurie

Ok, let's say Verizon owns a block of IP's that are given to people all over the country. ARIN is in charge of documenting all of this information.

MG pulls up that information when it sees your IP address.

Then they compare physical address the company used (the information that ARIN has) to register the IP addresses, and goes by that. 9 times out of 10, that registered physical address isn't going to be in the same state that you live in.

I kinda think that Kentucky knew this going in (or at least had a consultant tell them this,) and it makes a great case for them to go into court and say "hey, Kentuckians can still access these sites. These companies have to forfeit their domains."
 

anniemac

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Just for grins and giggles, I ran my IP. There is something to be said for living in the country. I have DSL through my local phone provider. It has Texas plastered all over it.

But the knowledge about the mobile modems was good to know. I have used my mobile phone with wireless modem on my laptop. Don't guess that will be an option any more. :mad:
 

zebedy

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:)

An easy way to see if you're affected by this or not is to head over to:

www.whatismyip.com, grab the IP address it says you have, then visit www.arin.net with that IP and paste it into the box in the upper right corner and click 'search whois.'


hmm i just tried that and it says im in amsterdam , i know the uk is part of the EU but as im not seeing hash cafes and ladies in there underware all over the place, i think it may be wrong
:D
 

Mousey

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Hmmmm... did the Whois thingy and even though I live in Alabama, the IP came up as Wisconsin my ISP's 'home'. :rolleyes:
 

winbig

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Hmmmm... did the Whois thingy and even though I live in Alabama, the IP came up as Wisconsin my ISP's 'home'. :rolleyes:

UPDATE:

Villento LOCKED ME OUT OF MY ACCOUNT. They sent me a bonus offer YESTERDAY, but yet I'm locked out today? I can't even get to the login screen of the casino anymore. As soon as it loads, it closes automatically.

:rolleyes:

ok. I'm talking with them in live chat, and they didn't block my account, but I can't even get to the login screen. It's like it sees my IP and shuts down.
 

Pinababy69

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What a complete and total clusterf**k. I can't see how MG is going to make this work.....not the way it's intended anyway.
 

RobWin

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UPDATE:

Villento LOCKED ME OUT OF MY ACCOUNT. They sent me a bonus offer YESTERDAY, but yet I'm locked out today? I can't even get to the login screen of the casino anymore. As soon as it loads, it closes automatically.

:rolleyes:

ok. I'm talking with them in live chat, and they didn't block my account, but I can't even get to the login screen. It's like it sees my IP and shuts down.

Try that proxy IP I gave you in a previous post here and see if it will let you...it should considering it's out of Cali
 

GGW Laurie

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UPDATE:

Villento LOCKED ME OUT OF MY ACCOUNT. They sent me a bonus offer YESTERDAY, but yet I'm locked out today? I can't even get to the login screen of the casino anymore. As soon as it loads, it closes automatically.

:rolleyes:

ok. I'm talking with them in live chat, and they didn't block my account, but I can't even get to the login screen. It's like it sees my IP and shuts down.
this just really sucks winbig, isnt there something the casino's can do, if i live in tn. and have a ip addy from one of the excluded states, then i would be booted too? it seems like some one would be all over this as almost all of us have ip addys in different parts of the country, this isnt right at all:mad:alot of casino's stand to lose alot of players and money, you think they would be getting concerned over this imo.............
 

lots0

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The proxys wont work at least for MG casinos, they are using a proxy detector.

As I pointed out in another thread, IP addresses were never intended to define geographical borders

The big problem comes from people that live in the FREE states who's ISP has an IP address in one of the "excluded' states. Those folks are going to have problems. IP addresses were never set up to determine geographic borders like state lines.

Until MG comes to it senses, people in FREE States that are being blocked because their IP is in Repressive non-free State are going to have to start sending in their Identity documents to prove what state they live in.

If MG wants to keep American players they NEED to rethink this IP blocking.
 

winbig

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this just really sucks winbig, isnt there something the casino's can do, if i live in tn. and have a ip addy from one of the excluded states, then i would be booted too? it seems like some one would be all over this as almost all of us have ip addys in different parts of the country, this isnt right at all:mad:alot of casino's stand to lose alot of players and money, you think they would be getting concerned over this imo.............

That is correct.

I sent my drivers license to Jackpot Factory. I received a reply that they forwarded it to wherever, and am still awaiting the verdict.
 

GGW Laurie

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That is correct.

I sent my drivers license to Jackpot Factory. I received a reply that they forwarded it to wherever, and am still awaiting the verdict.
this is strange win, i just logged in to wild jack, they have all my docs and im showing a mo. ip addy but am a resident of a non excluded state, tried 3 different m/g casino's, didnt deposit but was able to get in, could this be affecting just some?........laurie
 

lots0

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Look in your local phone book, I'll bet there are several local ISP providers, that have local IP's.

You can also contact your current mega ISP and tell them you are being blocked because you don't have a local IP address, tell them you want a local IP address.
 

lots0

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this is strange win, i just logged in to wild jack, they have all my docs and im showing a mo. ip addy but am a resident of a non excluded state, tried 3 different m/g casino's, didnt deposit but was able to get in, could this be affecting just some?........laurie

They are just working thru the process, I imagine it is just a matter of time until they get to you LJ...
 

winbig

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Look in your local phone book, I'll bet there are several local ISP providers, that have local IP's.

You can also contact your current mega ISP and tell them you are being blocked because you don't have a local IP address, tell them you want a local IP address.


lots0, it's not that simple, and if you asked your ISP (if they're not a small localized one) for such a thing, they'd laugh at you (or not know wtf you're talking about, if you're talking to level 1 support.)

I could go on and on about the reasons behind why they'd laugh at you, but I really don't have the time right now and it'd be about 3 pages worth of reading.

Besides, why should we roll over and play dead?

How about all of us innocent bystanders that are affected by this, and living in a non-excluded state, get together and find a lawyer that is up for taking on Beshear with a class-action lawsuit?
 

lots0

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Believe me I understand your frustration.

This ill advised decision by MG is hurting me far more than just not being able to gamble online... It is effecting my business in a very big way already and it's just getting started.

And never talk to lvl 1 support... always ask for the tech support.

If you tell the mega ISP your leaving them for a local ISP, because of the IP address they provide you, they will pay attention, money talks.
 

spearmaster

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Slow down everyone...

First of all, it is hard to blame MGS or any operator for doing what they need to do, based on the shoddy information they are getting. They sure as heck don't want to lose you as customers - it's not exactly their fault.

Secondly, all of you are proving the case quite convincingly - that it is impossible to block IP by physical location - all of you should get this data and send it to the media, and to Kentucky governor Steve Beshear, and his minions.

Oh yes - and especially to the judge.

Now if someone can dig up the email addresses...
 

jetset

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I suspect the Kentucky issue has a way to run yet, and that there is a good chance that Beshear's misguided and commercially motivated moves via the county court will be thrown out by a more knowledgable judiciary.

In the meantime you can't blame some of the companies for taking precautionary measures whilst they readjust their infrastructures and await the return of sanity - they're just as much victims of this nonsense as everyone else.

For one, in an operator/software firm's shoes I believe I would be looking at which registrars I was using.....
 
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