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Non-Bonus Complaint ...Let The Fun Begin - Re: Banned States & MG

Discussion in 'Casino Complaints - Non-Bonus Issues' started by winbig, Oct 31, 2008.

    Oct 31, 2008
  1. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    OMG I am so P**SED RIGHT NOW.

    THIS IS RIDICULOUS! I LIVE IN PENNSYLVANIA, NOT NEW JERSEY.

    I'm an innocent bystander! I think the way MG is going about this is ALL WRONG. They are apparently using IP address information from ARIN (You must register/login in order to see the link.), and going solely by where the company that the IP's are registered to is. That has NOTHING to do with where I am PHYSICALLY located.



     
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  2. Oct 31, 2008
  3. babs7262

    babs7262 Banned User

    Occupation:
    On Disability,p/t online slots reviewer
    Location:
    PA
    I knew this was going to happen. This is just the beginning. RTG will no doubt follow suit in the future. How the heck is your IP a NJ trace anyway?
     
  4. Oct 31, 2008
  5. Westland Bowl

    Westland Bowl Tin Foil Hat Club Member CAG PABnonaccred

    Occupation:
    not applicable
    Location:
    America
    I guess MG doesn't want to be charged on a technicality that gambling bytes are being routed through servers based in a banned state even though the player lives in an allowable state.

    Those living close to the banned states would have to switch to ISPs that have servers within their allowable state. It works the other way too; those who live in any of the banned states can get an ISP with servers in an allowable state- but come the time to withdrawal, they may have a problem with the documentation requirements.
     
  6. Oct 31, 2008
  7. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    I travel frequently, so I use what's basically a 'wireless modem' for my Internet access, through Verizon. I can be online anywhere in the country that I can get a Verizon signal.

    Since it works on any computer that I plug it into, I use it for access at home, too. That way I don't have to pay for two Internet providers.

    You'd be surprised at how many innocent people are going to be affected by this method of blocking users. Especially when it comes to the national ISP's....I could almost guarantee that a lot of Kentuckians or other people in other banned states are going to get around the blocks, simply because whichever address their ISP's IP addresses are registered to point to a different state altogether.

    Local ISP's are going to be affected, but if you use a national ISP, chances are you're either SOL, or very lucky.

    Here's a pic of my modem:

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. Oct 31, 2008
  9. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    You're kidding, right? I'm not switching ISP's simply because Beshear wants to govern the Internet.

    I will fight this tooth and nail, no matter what it takes. It's not about being able to gamble online or where my IP address supposedly is "located," it's all about the principle of the matter now.

    I'm in live chat with the VPL group right now, trying to find out what their stance is on this.
     
  10. Oct 31, 2008
  11. sdaddy

    sdaddy Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Arizona
    For now, I'll withhold final judgment on how disruptive this new policy is until we see how efficiently they review ID docs from players who were mistakenly flagged by their IP identification and want to challenge the blocking of their account.

    Let us know how it goes, winbig.
     
  12. Oct 31, 2008
  13. NASHVEGAS

    NASHVEGAS Banned User - flamming, disrespecting admin,

    Occupation:
    LOL
    Location:
    MERS
    SOL WITH A VZW USB720 MODEM and OUR NEXT GOVERNOR IN 2010:eek::eek:

    Thanks for heads up Winbig:thumbsup:
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2009
    1 person likes this.
  14. Oct 31, 2008
  15. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    :)

    An easy way to see if you're affected by this or not is to head over to:

    You must register/login in order to see the link., grab the IP address it says you have, then visit You must register/login in order to see the link. with that IP and paste it into the box in the upper right corner and click 'search whois.'
     
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  16. Oct 31, 2008
  17. NASHVEGAS

    NASHVEGAS Banned User - flamming, disrespecting admin,

    Occupation:
    LOL
    Location:
    MERS
    Thanks and had already done as I saw your posts in the MG/PRIMA thread. I now reside in Jersey:D

    OrgName: Cellco Partnership DBA Verizon Wireless
    OrgID: CLLC
    Address: 180 Washington Valley Road
    City: Bedminster
    StateProv: NJ
    PostalCode: 07039
    Country: US
     
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  18. Oct 31, 2008
  19. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
    Location:
    A Vault!
    Hell, it looks as though I live in the Cheese State...LOL !!:p

    OrgName: TDS TELECOM
    OrgID: TDST
    Address: 525 Junction Rd.
    City: Madison
    StateProv: WI
    PostalCode: 53717
    Country: US

    Even though my bills tell me I live here in Georgia...:rolleyes:

    Well here's a couple of quick fixes until MG come to their senses and start going by your actual physical addresses...

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Code:
    [B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="5"]Proxy For Free List[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
    IP  Port         Type       Country     Last     Test 
     
    
    60.169.11.188 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
    222.35.73.93 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
    123.111.230.136 8080 anonymous South Korea 2008-10-29 Whois 
    67.69.254.243 80 anonymous Canada 2008-10-29 Whois 
    85.185.100.2 3128 anonymous Iran 2008-10-31 Whois 
    80.80.12.123 80 anonymous Denmark 2008-10-29 Whois 
    212.100.132.146 3128 anonymous Russian Federation 2008-10-30 Whois 
    218.5.18.131 3128 anonymous China 2008-10-30 Whois 
    220.241.79.178 3128 anonymous Hong Kong 2008-10-30 Whois 
    210.51.14.197 80 anonymous China 2008-10-30 Whois 
    213.180.131.135 80 anonymous Poland 2008-10-29 Whois 
    200.174.85.195 3128 transparent Brazil 2008-10-29 Whois 
    210.51.33.43 80 transparent China 2008-10-30 Whois 
    58.222.254.10 3128 anonymous China 2008-10-31 Whois 
    200.181.55.100 3128 anonymous Brazil 2008-10-31 Whois 
    61.166.68.72 80 high anonymity China 2008-10-30 Whois 
    200.209.212.2 3128 anonymous Brazil 2008-10-31 Whois 
    211.24.226.8 80 anonymous Malaysia 2008-10-29 Whois 
    200.206.46.178 3128 anonymous Brazil 2008-10-29 Whois 
    61.166.68.71 80 high anonymity China 2008-10-29 Whois 
    89.208.32.109 3128 anonymous Russian Federation 2008-10-30 Whois 
    67.69.254.251 80 anonymous Canada 2008-10-29 Whois 
    58.211.78.143 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
    210.51.4.173 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
    202.162.209.78 8080 anonymous Indonesia 2008-10-30 Whois 
    200.174.85.193 3128 transparent Brazil 2008-10-29 Whois 
    61.120.148.32 8080 anonymous Japan 2008-10-29 Whois 
    203.162.183.222 80 transparent Vietnam 2008-10-29 Whois 
    213.4.106.85 8080 anonymous Spain 2008-10-29 Whois 
    67.69.254.254 80 anonymous Canada 2008-10-29 Whois 
    222.35.73.92 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
    202.98.23.116 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
    86.105.181.238 3128 anonymous Romania 2008-10-31 Whois 
    61.55.135.1 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
    200.64.191.50 3128 anonymous Mexico 2008-10-29 Whois 
    195.250.175.139 80 anonymous Estonia 2008-10-31 Whois 
    [B][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"]64.66.192.61 80 anonymous United States 2008-10-29 Whois [/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]
    87.86.13.29 80 anonymous Great Britain (UK) 2008-10-31 Whois 
    66.198.41.11 3128 anonymous Syria 2008-10-29 Whois 
    213.41.71.164 80 high anonymity France 2008-10-29 Whois 
    222.35.73.84 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
    217.147.30.24 8080 anonymous Russian Federation 2008-10-30 Whois 
    202.98.23.114 80 anonymous China 2008-10-29 Whois 
    67.69.254.245 80 anonymous Canada 2008-10-29 Whois 
     
    Places Where You Can Find More Proxy Lists 
    Site 01 Site 02 Site 03 Site 04 Site 05 Site 06 Site 07 Site 08 Site 09 Site 10 
     
     
    The one listed there from the US (Highlighted in Red) is located out of :64.66.192.61

    OrgName: Pac-West Telecomm, INC.
    OrgID: PWTI
    Address: 1776 W. March Lane
    Address: Suite 250
    City: Stockton
    StateProv: CA
    PostalCode: 95207
    Country: US

    This may be the only way around this BS until MG gets their head out of their A** :p
     
  20. Oct 31, 2008
  21. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Well this really sucks. It should be where the "player" is located NOT the IP since players from banned jurisdictions can use proxy servers to fake their whereabouts. This IP banning is probably being implemented via paranoia - Westland Bowl is probably right, they may fear being hauled in over a technicality.

    Hopefully the casinos can come up with a better solution for this.
     
  22. Oct 31, 2008
  23. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
    Location:
    A Vault!
    Yea, you right about that...it does suck, but on the flip side if that is how MG really wants to play that game then you can use one of those sites I listed to actually bounce your IP around so much and so fast that no one can really pin it down to any particular location !! I'm not going to say which site though as that may jeopardize some but it's easily figured out by the user...;)
     
  24. Oct 31, 2008
  25. zebedy

    zebedy No!!!! Im Spartacus MM webmeister

    Occupation:
    brain stergeon
    Location:
    Up a Tree
    shouldnt this be another reason why casinos should ask for ID verification before a player plays at a casino, it would not only prove where your from but (if your in a banned state or not)also there shouldnt be any problems about with holding payment re.dodgy documents, (if they have been cleared)
    i know a points been made about players wanting to play at a casino instantly and going else where if they cant but with all these problems happening something has to change,
    maybe if all casinos asked for verification before hand then if you play at a casino that doesnt ask and you get burned then its your own fault for playing there,
    couldnt ecogra put it in there terms that a casino has to do this, just like they have it in there terms that a casino must ask a player to provide id when requesting a cashout
     
  26. Oct 31, 2008
  27. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
    Location:
    A Vault!
    Maybe we can get David Brickman on here to comment on this too since this has been two or more letters now received by members on here regarding this issue but I have still not seen any from the other casinos so this looks like it is only JPF Group that are sending these out and not MG !!
     
  28. Oct 31, 2008
  29. babs7262

    babs7262 Banned User

    Occupation:
    On Disability,p/t online slots reviewer
    Location:
    PA
    Another way:

    1. Download Firefox (mozilla)
    2. Go To Tools on Top
    3. Click on Options
    4.Go to Network Tab
    5.Click on Settings under connection
    6. Click on the manual proxy configuration button (notice below its just on No proxy))
    7. In proxy box type: 202.106.16.36
    8. Port box type: 3128
    9. Click oK

    This will take much longer but it will show you coming from Asia. This is what alot of US people do to watch movies that arnt available to US players.

    The other good thing is when you go back to normal proxy, the tab remembers these numbers so you dont have to remember them again
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 31, 2008
  30. Oct 31, 2008
  31. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    [derail]
    Hmmm...out of interest, do any of those proxy servers allow you access to Wagerworks casinos by any chance?
    [/derail]
     
  32. Oct 31, 2008
  33. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
    Location:
    A Vault!
    :lolup: Now Simmo, you know we can't answer that in open forum here...:p
     
  34. Oct 31, 2008
  35. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    That's good and all, but if a person is in fact in a banned state, they're going to have a hard time cashing out....
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 31, 2008
  36. Oct 31, 2008
  37. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Update

    Received this morning:

     
  38. Oct 31, 2008
  39. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    thanks win for looking up my ip addy:thumbsup: im now a resident of st. louis, mo:D and nash is in new jersey:eek: lol, we only live 30 minutes away from each other, so how can this be, im still lost on this ip stuff?................pewter dummy , laurie
     
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