Land based NetEnt @ William Hill shops

[miso]

This is the press release. What do UK guys think about it?

I personally can`t imagine myself standing in the shop somewhere on high street hitting DOA.


June 25, 2014 – Net Entertainment is very proud to announce that it has signed
its very first gaming machine deal with UK bookmaker William Hill. This
agreement complements the existing online partnership with William Hill and Net
Entertainment games will soon be available in William Hill’s licensed betting
offices (LBOs). William Hill has over 2300 LBOs across the UK, which makes them
one of the biggest retail players in UK.

Björn Krantz, Chief of GMO and MD at Net Entertainment Malta Ltd, said: “This
is a big step and a milestone for Net Entertainment. Net Entertainment is one
of Europe’s largest suppliers of online casino games and we are very excited to
have been given the trust, and confidence to extend our delivery commitment to
William Hill now also covering the retail part of their business. The deal will
allow Net Entertainment to maximize its distribution reach through William
Hill’s major channels which includes retail, online and mobile.”

 

[catapultaudio]

If only they would port Dead or Alive that would be great.. instead I bet we'll only get Starburst, Twin Spin, and all that kind of stuff... I'll still be interested to have a look though I haven't been playing those machines much lately, had my wallet emptied too quickly, too many times

 

[Captain Chaos]

Actually I think that NetEnt slots would actually make very good land based slots. Of course much of its success will depend on the variety of slots they put out. While Starburst would no doubt be popular for instance I for one cannot see myself standing there playing it (I don't even play it online, unless it's free!) Twin Spin would be quite good I think. Look forward to seeing them, will have a play when they come out and see what's what.

Wonder if MG will be releasing any land based slots? IR and TS2 would be pretty good I reckon.

 

[paul7388]

Would imagine it would need to be slots like starburst as they are the ones that will fit in with the pay structure since the machines in the bookmakers have a maximum £500 payout.

 

[psmith2020]

Would imagine it would need to be slots like starburst as they are the ones that will fit in with the pay structure since the machines in the bookmakers have a maximum £500 payout.

5p and 10p wins

 

[miso]

Would imagine it would need to be slots like starburst as they are the ones that will fit in with the pay structure since the machines in the bookmakers have a maximum £500 payout.

The more I am thinking about it, the more confusing it gets. Kind of don`t know how the hell are they going to design the terminals,
with what games. If the minimum bet on FOBT is £1 and max payout is £500, full screen of bars in Starburst is exactly 500x.
So if I hit that (I know, dream on) with any star, the respin win is a) voided, b) the slot cannot be offered because theoretical win is higher
than the 500 pounds max win?

Paul, what about the boys that bet the max on roulette? Doesn`t make sense to put fifty on number, when they get paid only 10x instead of 32x.

Edit: I guess the simple solution for NetEnt would be to tweak the payout and/or gameplay on their slots to fit in. After all, they`re their property,
so can probably do whatever they want with them.

 

[catapultaudio]

The more I am thinking about it, the more confusing it gets. Kind of don`t know how the hell are they going to design the terminals,
with what games. If the minimum bet on FOBT is £1 and max payout is £500, full screen of bars in Starburst is exactly 500x.
So if I hit that (I know, dream on) with any star, the respin win is a) voided, b) the slot cannot be offered because theoretical win is higher
than the 500 pounds max win?

Paul, what about the boys that bet the max on roulette? Doesn`t make sense to put fifty on number, when they get paid only 10x instead of 32x.

Edit: I guess the simple solution for NetEnt would be to tweak the payout and/or gameplay on their slots to fit in. After all, they`re their property,
so can probably do whatever they want with them.

The minimum bet is not £1, you normally cannot change the number of lines but for example Luck of the Irish a 20 line game can be played at £0.20 in william hills. Thing is the games are butchered so that they offer much greater RTP for players making max bets, and even more the new trend is to offer better odds if the player agrees more - I saw somebody playing the "fortune spins" - where the lowest paying symbols are removed from the reels, extra wilds added etc - for FIFTY QUID per 4 spins last weekend, and he won a big fat zero twice in a row...

I don't know if NetEnt will also go down this route with their games, I hope not to be honest though... I reckon we might get a bit of TFTUT and if so I'll definitely be up for giving that a try in my local hills

The £500 maximum is per spin, so I imagine the respin would indeed be useless if you hit £500 in the initial spin, and as you say the maximum roulette bet on a single number is something like £14, to ensure that one bet doesnt return more than £500. I'm actually not sure what happens if you were to put for example, £14 on a few numbers, then £100 on red, £100 on even etc and it all comes in, not sure if the return is capped per spin or for each individual wager but knowing the bookies its probably the former.

 

[paul7388]

You cant put £50 on a single number on roulette either miiisooo they are capped to a certain payout same as the slots. one of reasons I wouldn't play them in shop.

 

[miso]

Thanks for the replies Catapult and Paul, I got the £1 min spin info from Wikipedia

Now if the bets are adjusted so the payout doesn`t exceed £500, that sounds ok. But I am afraid that`s not the thing they are after.
They don`t want anyone standing there half a day spinning on 20p. They want to fleece as many people as possible and as quickly as possible.
TBH it boggles my mind how can somebody put £50 on a spin hoping to win £500. That`s hardcore.

 

[spoton]

Wonder if MG will be releasing any land based slots? IR and TS2 would be pretty good I reckon.

Actually here in Norway we had TS2 available for a time on the slot machines operated by the government owned gambling company. It had a Norwegian name though, and maybey some adjustments to the RTP or variance.

That being said those machines aint much else than a computer screen with game options + a card reader.

Edit: The only thing left from the original was the symbols. It had 20 paylines and the only feature was the multiplier feature with 3x wins.

 

[Nicola]

Can see this leading to problematic gambling for some players if they launch big games on the high street.

Isn't RTP like 76% at William Hill shops?

 

[dizze]

Can see this leading to problematic gambling for some players if they launch big games on the high street.

Isn't RTP like 76% at William Hill shops?

its more like 88-94%

 

[67Mustang]

Wonder if MG will be releasing any land based slots? IR and TS2 would be pretty good I reckon.

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[psmith2020]

its more like 88-94%

the 70 pound games are 72% on 25p 50p 76% 78% £1

 

[Richas]

the 70 pound games are 72% on 25p 50p 76% 78% £1

Those are the pub games, recently raised to a £100 max not the bookmaker games which are either B3 Max stake £2 Max win £500 or B2 which are max stake £100 and max win £500.

In the B3 slot style games in bookies the RTP varies a bit but it is a licence condition that it is declared for each game. It will be in the help somewhere. As an interesting aside that same RTP rule should apply to online slots for UK licenced remote operators soon, to target the UK market they will need a UK licence by 1st October and a licence requirement is to declare the RTP clearly.

This deal may be linked to the budget announcement that B2 capable machines will pay 25% tax whereas B1(casino) or Bingo Hall/Adult Gaming Centre B3 only machines will pay 20% Already about 30% of the revenues from these mnachines comes from the B3 games - about £450m of £1,500m

They don`t want anyone standing there half a day spinning on 20p. They want to fleece as many people as possible and as quickly as possible.

There is some truth to this as they are capped at 4 machines so they will want a high stakes big spender to get on the moment they step in the door but they also want the machines used as much as possible. The higher stake B2 games tend to have a higher RTP and they also spin once every 20s so the yield per minute compared to a £2 spin every 2.5s with a worse RTP is not quite as clear cut as it seems to some. After all 30% of the money is B3 already. With the tax change bookies may have some of the 4 only capable of B3 games - that way they pay lower tax and they can manage those who want to play B3 games on to them. This deal may be about that - getting popular slots on a B3 only machine and letting the punters sort themselves - higher stakes on the other B2 machines and B3 made more attractive on the dedicated B3 machines.

Anyway I hope that makes some sense to someone.

 

[whodatrec]

Actually here in Norway we had TS2 available for a time on the slot machines operated by the government owned gambling company. It had a Norwegian name though, and maybey some adjustments to the RTP or variance.

That being said those machines aint much else than a computer screen with game options + a card reader.

Edit: The only thing left from the original was the symbols. It had 20 paylines and the only feature was the multiplier feature with 3x wins.

Haha yeah those Multix machines are a total joke... I never play them. My girlfriend works at a bingo and the "Belago" machines also from Norsk Tipping are even worse. I was sitting there waiting for my girlfriend to finish her shift and i was checking out the people playing them. It boggles my mind why they would play these "slots".. Payouts are horrible bet 20NOK and max win is 1500 NOK WTF????

The so called bingo machines they have there are even worse again (if thats even possible) Max bet 200 NOK a spin and capped wins at 12 000 NOK. Total joke and designed to rob people blind.
Norsk Tippings online casino aswell max win pr spin 5000 NOK... What are they thinking.......... Atleast now all wins form online casinos in the EU are tax free here.

 

[citizenx]

Was in WH today. They now have Twin Spin and Koi Princess in store.

Played a bit on twin spin but it still hates me when though it didn't know who I was in store.

 

[fun4all]

Was in WH today. They now have Twin Spin and Koi Princess in store.

Played a bit on twin spin but it still hates me when though it didn't know who I was in store.

Twin spin a very good fit for fobts I think, good choice from net ent.

Koi Princess is in my opinion an awful slot no matter where it is.

I suspect twin spin will do ok in the long run on those machines.

 

[Steviedoo]

Koi Princess is in my opinion an awful slot no matter where it is.

Should have read this thread before I put my money in koi princess. I am just starting to play netent games....needless to say it took all my money..sigh....

 

[fun4all]

Should have read this thread before I put my money in koi princess. I am just starting to play netent games....needless to say it took all my money..sigh....

They will all take all your money in the end bud, thats what slots do. Just some give you a chance to have nights where you win decent along the way. Koi Princess is designed to basically never give you a chance of winning big (nicknamed net ent variance on here)

However they do have some good slots, dont get me wrong.

From Netents newer range try Creature from the black lagoon and SteamTower

Or from their back catalogue the all time greatest slot ever, Dead or Alive

Cheers.

 

[Steviedoo]

They will all take all your money in the end bud, thats what slots do. Just some give you a chance to have nights where you win decent along the way. Koi Princess is designed to basically never give you a chance of winning big (nicknamed net ent variance on here)

However they do have some good slots, dont get me wrong.

From Netents newer range try Creature from the black lagoon and SteamTower

Or from their back catalogue the all time greatest slot ever, Dead or Alive

Cheers.

What I should have said was it took all my money very quickly even at 40 cents a spin. I'm not a fan of dead or alive. But I do see all the big winner screenshots. I will try black lagoon. Steamtower I like. I haven't won big on any netent games yet. So.....

 

[citizenx]

Twin spin a very good fit for fobts I think, good choice from net ent.

Koi Princess is in my opinion an awful slot no matter where it is.

I suspect twin spin will do ok in the long run on those machines.

I wouldn't ordinarily play Koi but occasionally I'll play out the last few quid in my account on it. Surprising how often that boosts the balance to an amount to withdraw.

Happened last night at Guts. £5 became £38 within a few mins. Deposit back + small profit. All goes back in the pot for another session.

 

[Vicky]

I wouldn't ordinarily play Koi but occasionally I'll play out the last few quid in my account on it. Surprising how often that boosts the balance to an amount to withdraw.

Happened last night at Guts. £5 became £38 within a few mins. Deposit back + small profit. All goes back in the pot for another session.

Why do you say Koi is awful?

 

[ricky]

i definitely want jack hammmer or a comicy slot , but then again that could be said to be appealing to kids

 

[AlyLauren]

William Hill is a highly credible casino sites I guess that will be fine.