Expired Promo L&L Europe Unlucky Leaderboard Promo

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Thanks again for the comp. and well done all.
When you get round to crediting my £10 please please please will you give my pending withdrawal a push.... (@fun)

Hi dear, withdrawal is on the way and tenner is added!

Kr.
 
1-12 to 31-12 =


CMRTPSPINSNotes
nikantw
22.19%​
424​
£250​
mariafbb
44.88%​
202​
£100​
ESCJAMIE
66.53%​
1399​
£50​
curremon
70.24%​
1785​
chriskay
73.51%​
463​
helenakp
76.74%​
1769​
danofthewibble
82.54%​
2664​
Supababe
86.04%​
3911​
geordiecolin
86.97%​
2734​
dave1888
89.73%​
7849​
colinsunderland
90.74%​
8162​
johnnymcc1966
91.23%​
3889​
irish-ranger
91.80%​
7459​
luckyscouser45
93.28%​
11472​
Scott1baird
94.04%​
11856​
Nate
94.83%​
18544​
bamberfishcake
96.64%​
5840​
jumboshrimp
99.35%​
1528​
Kroffe
99.62%​
49687​
ternur
108.07%​
2919​
lotusch
115.39%​
2549​

@Kroffe - 50k game rounds and still an RTP of 99.62% - wow :)

adding prizes now
@L&L-Jan I thought that the monlthy started when on a monday when the first week begins as theres normally 4 weekly draws then a monthly one from them 4 weeks all added up which is 28 days, not 31 what this is based off, I must be wrong thou haha
 
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Also sorry to snitch but it's 250 spins to be able to win monthly prizes why did Maria win with only 200 xx
Should @curremon be 3rd and me 2nd x?
 
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Congrats to all the winners but I don’t see a point of playing this anymore as regular gameplay with your normal amount of lots of spins doesn’t really get you anywhere as the winners always seem to do the least amount of spins. Not being salty btw :)

I agree. And with that I'm out.

Please opt me back out of everything Jan, thanks for the comp, but its clearly being abused.
 
I agree. And with that I'm out.

Please opt me back out of everything Jan, thanks for the comp, but its clearly being abused.
Think Jan should do a new rule from now like 250 for weekly and atleast 1000 for monthly, 90% of us can easily do that
 
Am i allowed to change my mind? I kind of agree now in amending slightly. Especially if it keeps people from leaving the comp.
I just think that with such small amount of spins of 100 and 250 it CAN be manipulated not saying it has but the RTP isn't very balanced over such small amount of spins, But if you get less than 50% RTP over 1000 spins then you are unlucky, I mean I have won in the past with not many spins but not cause ive tried to cheat but more than I didnt have the funds to play ect but I felt guilty seeing others doing like 10k spins and not winning and me doing like 500 and winning
 
I just think that with such small amount of spins of 100 and 250 it CAN be manipulated not saying it has but the RTP isn't very balanced over such small amount of spins, But if you get less than 50% RTP over 1000 spins then you are unlucky, I mean I have won in the past with not many spins but not cause ive tried to cheat but more than I didnt have the funds to play ect but I felt guilty seeing others doing like 10k spins and not winning and me doing like 500 and winning

It would also make it a tighter comp i think and therefore more random winners.

To quote Luckyscouser, not being salty either.

It will make for a fairer competition.
 
It most definitely is being abused wether anyone likes to admit it or not :) I would also like to opt out jan thanks though for your continued effort and l&l for the comp.
I would love to see what games everyone is playing and HOW they play the game, ect, and if they leave after doing x amount of spins
 
I would love to see what games everyone is playing and HOW they play the game, ect, and if they leave after doing x amount of spins

Mine were deposits of around £50-150 a week (I think - I don't track them)
Playing Novomatics and Amatic, mainly 50p-£1 stakes, full lines unless I was getting rid of the last 7p or something when I would play, for example, 7 x 1p lines. I would play until I either withdrew or lost (lost I think every time except maybe once since the comp started lol).
 
As someone who simply respects fairness I do think that the terms of these promos need revisiting because those that are willing to spend/play/lose more are seriously disadvantaged

Correct. Without mentioning any names at all, December has proven that you can deposit and play £20 for the entire month, spin near minimum, and walk away £110 richer.
 
Correct. Without mentioning any names at all, December has proven that you can deposit and play £20 for the entire month, spin near minimum, and walk away £110 richer.
£230 richer to be honest lol. You still only need to play one week and spin atleast 250 spins. The only rule I would change is that you need to have played all weeks to qualify for the monthly. IE. You need to have made the minimum of 100 spins per week to be able to win the monthly.
 
£230 richer to be honest lol. You still only need to play one week and spin atleast 250 spins. The only rule I would change is that you need to have played all weeks to qualify for the monthly. IE. You need to have made the minimum of 100 spins per week to be able to win the monthly.

£230... is that what you made? As I actually wasn’t referring to you with the £110 comment.
 
£230 richer to be honest lol. You still only need to play one week and spin atleast 250 spins. The only rule I would change is that you need to have played all weeks to qualify for the monthly. IE. You need to have made the minimum of 100 spins per week to be able to win the monthly.
Out of respect for Jan and all exclusive CM promotions I will continue playing regardless.
Casinocasino it is once again for me today. Just depositing :)
 
nikan does pretty well out of the forum comps, I don't know how he does it :laugh:

I know how he does it! Pure skill....which comes from years of practicing and developing his abilities on Cm.... Which I kinda admire in a way. I enter most comps knowing that 2nd place is the highest achievable position if it is at a casino that allows Nikan’s country to take part.
 
I know how he does it! Pure skill....which comes from years of practicing and developing his abilities on Cm.... Which I kinda admire in a way. I enter most comps knowing that 2nd place is the highest achievable position if it is at a casino that allows Nikan’s country to take part.
I really don't resent not winning these comps because I rely on my abilities to know when and where to deposit and when to walk away for my luck.
That is what I have mostly learnt from CM
 
So I made mistake, human error? :)
Prizes should move one position towards Escjamie and Curremon?
 
I really don't resent not winning these comps because I rely on my abilities to know when and where to deposit and when to walk away for my luck.
That is what I have mostly learnt from CM
Totally agree.
I play at L&L now due to the positive vibes on the forum. I would never log in and select slots/bet sizes having considered the impact on my leaderBoard position first.
‘Not bovered’ with the positions lol.

I would even avoid this thread other than when my usual play has given me a terrible session.
Sadly, when I do have a bad session (genuinely bad as I know other players do eg banbetfishcake or Koffe), it annoys the hell out of me that people, in MY OPINION, are willing to take the piss.

Resulting in me harping on about it.
Jan started the thread in good faith to give something to unlucky players. Not to reward the leeches.

If a genuine session leaves a player in 3rd (£10) yet those above are there through ‘deliberate play’ then it doesn’t sit right morally with me sorry.

End of moan. I will try not to read and comment anymore here.
If, per chance I am unlucky enough in the future, please will a SCMC member give me a shout.

many thanks for putting up with me jan x you’re the best.
 
Ok Curremon, ive granted your prize at Hyper ! Gratz mate and sorry for the mistake.

@ESCJAMIE plz PM account and ill credit there the remaining of your winnings.

Kr. Jan
 
If I can win, can I be a leech ;):laugh::laugh:




On second thoughts, my morals wouldn't let me :)

Like me Grey, you have been around long enough to know that this sort of drama is exactly the reason why reps don’t bother with exclusive comps as much as they used to or why there is sometimes a lack of participation from seasoned CM members.
In my opinion, We should simply enter into a CM comp with the same spirit as it was intended. Being fair to the reps, fair to our community of lovely players and not nitpicking At each other or the rules.
Never been a fan of dog eat dog.
 
Well it's clear as day to me that certain individuals are abusing the promo.

I mean what's fair in making as little deposits as possible... and then winning Weekly and Monthly tournaments whilst the others are supporting the L&L brands and get jack shit.

This is exactly what messed it up for players at Videoslots. In the end regulars suffered because of promo abusers.

Then if you look at the forums or even screenshot sections, they dont even play at L&L to begin with

Just there to spoil the fun for everyone else.

@L&L-Jan - Not interested in your prizes - but what are you guys going to do about this to level the playing field for players actually supporting you and not using you as an ATM?

Nate
 
Well it's clear as day to me that certain individuals are abusing the promo.

I mean what's fair in making as little deposits as possible... and then winning Weekly and Monthly tournaments whilst the others are supporting the L&L brands and get jack shit.

This is exactly what messed it up for players at Videoslots. In the end regulars suffered because of promo abusers.

Then if you look at the forums or even screenshot sections, they dont even play at L&L to begin with

Just there to spoil the fun for everyone else.

@L&L-Jan - Not interested in your prizes - but what are you guys going to do about this to level the playing field for players actually supporting you and not using you as an ATM?

Nate

Totally get your frustration.

If members are playing within the boundaries of the rules set then they are not doing anything wrong.

Must say that Jan has already given us the chance to change the rules and we didnt.

I get the impression a minimum spin count will solve the concerns.

If everybody is in agreement we just need to suggest an amount to Jan. Considering the high rollers and low rollers, a minimum spin count of 200 per week or is that too much for the big spenders? OR can anyone suggest a more acceptable amount?

It seems a minimum spin/weekly deposit limit would make a more even playing field.
 
It's supposed to be rewarding people on their normal play style and having a bad run. If people aren't playing as normal then they should be disqualified.
Playing as normal can easily be checked by checking back over activity over the past few months before the comp started, or if they play every week usually, then at the start of one month, do 250 spins with a really low RTP then don't play again for the rest of the month, then that clearly isn't normal play. Or if they play 250 x 10p spins, but have posts in the winners screenshots showing them playing regularly at £1/£2/£5 spins for example, then 10p spins isn't normal play, and is clearly taking advantage of the competition. It's supposed to be a fun way to give back to loyal player by Jan, and seeing it be abused doesn't sit right with me, and anyone doing so should be booted from this and any other comp on here. Thats why I won't be taking part anymore, as I think its pretty shitty behaviour and don't want to be associated with people doing it.

TLDR: People taking the piss out of a reps generosity, are pathetic.
 
I suggest a mimimum amount of spins on any 20p slot as compulsory and no playing on slots that allow us to play one line only. After those spins are taken then no others spins count towards the weekly
That will make it a truley level playing field
Or 'no play on less than maximum lines will count' seeing as many of the popular games have adjustable lines, like Book of Ra etc. :)
 
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