New Slot Announcement Kingmaker Megaways from Big Time Gaming

[Mr_Slot5]

And this post perfectly sums up the problem with gamblers...

DOA2 may have had many 10,000x wins and above, but the sheer amount of dreadful features it needs to do to get there means that 99.9% of people will have a torrid time.

BTG at least have steadier features, and can still pay big enough.

Games have the same RTP to play with. For every 10,000x win on DOA2, that's probably ten 1,000x wins on most BTG games.

So what do you want - higher losses with a shot at 10k. Or steadier play with reasonable amounts of 1k.

I've made this exact same point before with regards to DOA2 vs BTG.

People either want a reasonable playing experience or a quick bust with a hand full of 5x features (on the very small off chance they hit 10,000x)

 

[johnnymcc1966]

Too much like Holy Diver and not enough like Opal Fruits for me. Not a fan of building up multipliers and that type of thing,a bonus should just pay whatever it pays regardles for me. A step back after a step forward with Opal Fruits in my view.

 

[DreamRJ]

This game is just another gimmick and a money grabber for BTG.

This slot is gonna give you a lot and I mean a lot of bad press. People are going to be crazy mad about it. I reckon features will obviously drop a lot on this slot. Probably around every 50 or so spins I reckon because obviously the slot will never want the player to build up those multipliers!

 

[goatwack]

It will never rival the great Opal Fruits, as that's been proven to pay out 36,000x, according to BTG

IN FANTASY LAND

 

[pinnit2014]

It will never rival the great Opal Fruits, as that's been proven to pay out 36,000x, according to BTG

IN FANTASY LAND

I’ve heard the unlimited multiplier, potential and it are having quite the time there.

 

[bamberfishcake]

another fine review. Thanks @dunover An interesting game that i will try to hit and run a few times before hoping for free spins. I just dont have the funds for these BTG trawlers.

 

[lotusch]

be happy; they (BTG) dont let Canadians play at all

You are truly blessed my friend!

 

[helafast]

Longshot here, but does anyone know if this will load through RELAX platform or the usual SG?

 

[Cardio1979]

It loads through SG.

Just played 200 spins and had a 7% rtp. No fun in losing my balance in 5 minutes.
After watching some streamers I'm pretty sure this game is on par with holy diver.

If this becomes the norm in gambling I am done.

 

[brianmon]

Just tried it at casumo, in demo mode

RTP 28.50% for the first 100 spins - multipliers 1122 - best win 10x
RTP 50.90% after 700 spins - multipliers 1484 - best win 33x
No sign of a bonus
Got bored

You're gonna have to pump a lot of cash into it, and hope for a huge bonus, in order to make any kind of profit.
Even if I'd have landed the bonus on spin 701, I'd still have needed a 350x win, just to get back to my starting balance

 

[Kroffe]

I will probably give this 100 spins from time to time, and hope that it will produce a good bonus when it finally activates.
I cant see myself doing a whole session on this game alone, since it would cost to much to do it in one go (most likely)

I kinda like holy diver, and have had decent luck with that one. So i got to atleast give this one a go before i toss it in the trash =)

 

[Kroffe]

Tried it in demo mode. Made me think maybe i will not bother trying with real money at all.
This was at multiplier 20x, and with a retrigger, so 14 spins.
Just barely made a profit.. And i also had a few good hits between 50-100x in basegame on the red and purple gems.
Not impressed.

There will probably be some monster-wins produced by this slot, but i imagine most will get a very poor return.
Ill stick to holy diver

 

[sufferinsilence]

Was watching Supersmask play this on stream last night and he was doing well on it, it took a while until he got the bonus and his multiplier was up over x40 so most of his basegame hits with the gems were also big wins. The bonus paid just a little over 200x.
Once the multiplier is up it gets interesting but the first couple of hundred spins might be a bit bland

I can't play it until general release anyway but this one also seems to have that trademarked BTG potential...

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Not a bad game this one.

Signed up to Casumo so I guess the exclusivity worked..... Took the full SUB so a £300 deposit with a £300 bonus for a £600 bankroll.

 

[dunover]

At least you get the concept of the mechanic, unlike some! You get an average of 2 winning spins in the bonus, that was my experience. My best in the test video was 31x for the FS, IIRC they yielded over 300x. I did get the purple gems multiplier up to 10x once, so 150x for every way that came in before feature triggered.

 

[pinnit2014]

26x going in: 100x with 7 spins, then x9 with 17 spins (12 and retrigger i think): 100x.

70 quid up in starting balance. Not too bad.

My issue with these games is once i do the progression thing 1/2/3 times, unless it gives me a monster early doors, my interest in playing it wanes.

 

[thebigs]

Had a decent return but not sure if i would go out of my way to play this too much.

 

[Kroffe]

Had a decent return but not sure if i would go out of my way to play this too much.

May i ask what you starting balance was?
Maybe i need to make a deposit over at casumo and try it out.

 

[thebigs]

May i ask what you starting balance was?
Maybe i need to make a deposit over at casumo and try it out.

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Sorry for the crap picture that came out but it was a 30 multi on a 60c bet

 

[Kroffe]

Sorry for the crap picture that came out but it was a 30 multi on a 60c bet

Oh, picture is fine.
I was wondering how much money you had when you sat down to play king maker. =)
I wanted to find out how much you had gained compared to when you started.

 

[lotusch]

Must give this a go but I won't hold my breath though...I did like it when Dunover did the review but most of the times I get disappointed when playing it myself...Me and Megaways™ is just not a happy marriage except for the 3200x I won on White Rabbit in the first week of it's release...

Battling with The Final Countdown since 2 weeks on Casumo and it is just brutal for me in the Free Spins, and oh boy I have seen what it can do on Youtube...

 

[deleted_user-20231116]

The music in the bouns seems much louder than the other slot sounds, and louder than other btg slots

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Well this slot isn't making a king out of me up to now, this is what it's done to a £600 balance on 40p spins.

I have recorded every single feature for a follow-on video.

SPOILER ALERT - None of them are very good. From memory it's topped 200x once.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Casumo had an depo offer yesterday with 50 free spins. 50 spins @ 20p = £1.06 return for me.

Stayed in and played down until got bonus after about 100 spins (was just about to come out at £15)- some 80% @ 20p the remainder at 40p which took balance to £17.22 before giving £7.81 back.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

It's so bloody lumpy, constantly feels like two steps forward and three steps backward.

If you get a quick feature it's almost always going to pay shit 'cause you'll have a low multiplier, but if you mange to get a large multiplier the feature will have cost so much that you're doing well to recoup what it cost.

I am now LOCKED ON TARGET, this thing will either take the whole £600 off me on 40p spins, or pay big.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

More likely the earlier!!

 

[bamberfishcake]

I am now LOCKED ON TARGET, this thing will either take the whole £600 off me on 40p spins, or pay big

Good Luck! I hope it comes off but know what you mean about two steps forward and three back....

 

[snorky510238]

Hmmm... being the cynical sod I am I have huge reservations about this kind of mechanic. I played it at Casumo the other night without realising fully what I was getting involved in.

I had a more in depth look the next day and thought okay I will play it until I trigger the bonus and then I will NEVER touch it again. It cost me about £43 and I got £25. back on 40p spins. More a relief than anything else.

The reason for this is simple in my eyes and I know the purists disagree but I will always believe there is more going on behind the scenes than we will ever know.

I am not going to get into that debate but which ever side of the fence you are on, consider this.
How many games are you ahead of rtp after 1,000s of spins?
The answer for me personally is 1 and that is only marginal.
The games I am miles ahead of rtp are games I only played once or twice, hit big but they didn’t really float my boat or I realised I had been exceptionally lucky and never went back.

What I am saying here is that games mostly have around the 96% rtp standard nowadays and if I play the vast majority of these I can make a spin by spin analysis of when I walk away and maybe never return.

With this game you can’t really do that unless you’re prepared to just wave goodbye to a large chunk of rtp. It’s a very smart idea granted but it should come with a health warning.

It’s almost like providers have realised people are game hopping and came up with a clever way of tying you in. Given the fact if you play any slot for any length of time you will lose eventually I can only see that this one has a sneaky way of making you deposit more and lose more quickly than you would normally.

I don’t know whether they realise it or not but it’s also a massive money maker for Casumo. With having the exclusive. players that play it and don’t see through it are fairly likely to only ever play it at Casumo. The reason being why would you start afresh somewhere else when unless you walk away when the multiplier is at 4 you will be disadvantaging yourself theoretically.

I am very surprised this type of game is permissible. Just goes to show governing bodies can’t see the bigger picture and quite frankly don’t seem to know what they are looking for so as Peter Jones would say FOR THOSE REASONS I’M OUT.

 

[SteveBr]

I just took advantage of Casumo’s deposit for 50 free spins on this. I got the bonus after 19 spins which paid £7.56 then 5 spins later got the bonus again for £2. Altogether the 50 spins paid £17. Maybe I should now leave it alone forever...?

 

[unknownxx]

I just took advantage of Casumo’s deposit for 50 free spins on this. I got the bonus after 19 spins which paid £7.56 then 5 spins later got the bonus again for £2. Altogether the 50 spins paid £17. Maybe I should now leave it alone forever...?

Consider that a good result - did take the 50 spins too, got 4 €. Added up another 30€ on top, still no bonus.

 

[Louis]

For the curious souls, as far as I know it wont be exclusive for us forever, it will at some point be released to other casinos as well

 

[brianmon]

For the curious souls, as far as I know it wont be exclusive for us forever, it will at some point be released to other casinos as well

It's released everywhere else in 11 days, on the 28th.
Let's hope the 14 exclusive release was worth what BTG probably charged you for it

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I am very surprised this type of game is permissible. Just goes to show governing bodies can’t see the bigger picture and quite frankly don’t seem to know what they are looking for so as Peter Jones would say FOR THOSE REASONS I’M OUT.

Good post snorky, and it's something I cover in my video. If it were up to me this sort of mechanic would be outlawed, as it's a clear inducement and incentive to carry on gambling, potentially past the point where a player wants to walk away.

Put simply, once the multipliers start building you pretty much have to see it out to a bonus round, as this game effectively channels RTP from the base game on a constant basis into a future feature, it's like a feature buy but over hundreds of spins, and it's effectively mandatory.

Maybe the UKGC just aren't aware of stuff like this yet, or perhaps it is on their radar for action in the future.

Either way it's a clever, but nasty little hook, and players beware, you can easily be talking 200-300x your stake to get a feature, so make sure you've got the bankroll to see it out, or steer clear IMO!

 

[snorky510238]

For the curious souls, as far as I know it wont be exclusive for us forever, it will at some point be released to other casinos as well

No but the people who have played it or even signed up just so they can play it earlier are likely to stay loyal for the reasons I mentioned.

I watched the video @ChopleyIOM made on this slot and it was so noticeable how many dead spins the bonuses produced. Controlled to a fine degree is the most generous way I can describe it.

@dunover remarked that you seem to average 2 winning spins in the bonus round. How? ChopleyIOM kept asking “is it finding so many dead spins”. Good question when your guaranteed megaways every time.

The only answer is if you saw the reel strips they are weighted heavily against you. Well that’s the only legal answer I can think of.

 

[pinnit2014]

Have gave it a good go over the last few days - seems to give more 100x on low stakes than Bonanza but not much more: take 20 off, give 20 has been my experience. Overall had about 10 bonus's and been around even, so won't complain that much.

Think that's me done with it tbh as, for whatever reason, i find it a tad dull. Not a fan of these progressive games, which doesn't help - I'd rather bust out on a 100 depo on Bonanza but have a punt.

Better than Holy Diver but that wouldn't have been hard.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

This was £600.....

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I watched the video @ChopleyIOM made on this slot and it was so noticeable how many dead spins the bonuses produced. Controlled to a fine degree is the most generous way I can describe it.

@dunover remarked that you seem to average 2 winning spins in the bonus round. How? ChopleyIOM kept asking “is it finding so many dead spins”. Good question when your guaranteed megaways every time.

The only answer is if you saw the reel strips they are weighted heavily against you. Well that’s the only legal answer I can think of.

The reel strips in the bonus round are fucking bollocks, there are stacks of some symbols on certain reels, but hardly any of them on other reels, in tens and tens of bonus rounds I've yet to hit anything like a properly decent megaways win in the bonus round.

Also. Retriggers are far too rare, four scatters triggers are far too rare, five scatters triggers seem to be non-existent. You basically buy a feature over however many spins it takes to trigger, and then get some of the money that it cost to trigger it back.

I'm going to let it finish off this £600, and then I will never play it again.

 

[sufferinsilence]

The reel strips in the bonus round are fucking bollocks, there are stacks of some symbols on certain reels, but hardly any of them on other reels, in tens and tens of bonus rounds I've yet to hit anything like a properly decent megaways win in the bonus round.

Sounds exactly like the Dragon Born bonus round where you're also guaranteed the full megaways but a big hit is very rare!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I could have spent this £300 at 3Dice and:

a) Actually been entertained

and

b) Stood some fucking chance of actually winning anything

I'm only seeing it out to a bust now through a sense of grim determination.

 

[dunover]

I could have spent this £300 at 3Dice and:

a) Actually been entertained

and

b) Stood some fucking chance of actually winning anything

I'm only seeing it out to a bust now through a sense of grim determination.

No 5,600x feature then??

 

[ChopleyIOM]

No 5,600x feature then??

I think I need to raise a PAB

 

[goatwack]

Alrighty then. So we're all agreed BTG have finally perfected the ultimate soul-sucking perfect slot in their eyes, that toes the line of ethical boundaries whilst keeping within the confines of 'legal'?

Unless we dub their slots' gameplay as 'BTG Variance', which could well be a thing and usurp even Netent Variance

 

[asidea]

I do not know if its me or what, but i've played Kong Megaways, and wondered why, whenever the bonus round feature appears ..every spin becomes dreadfully slow, it took me 20-30 minutes for the feature to complete. Question is why is BTG designing slots like this?Wondered if they are making playing the bonus round a drag, so players will not want a bonus feature, or is there other subtle reasons i'm not aware off?.
Anybody else played Kong megaways and has the same problem??

 

[pinnit2014]

Get the feeling that they sat round and went: hey guys, they yapped on about the bonanza bonus so lets make a game where they don't want it; that'll really screw with their minds.

If this was made by Netent the reviews would be panning it

 

[ChopleyIOM]

This game is basically the slots version of a Terminator.

It doesn't feel pity, it doesn't feel remorse, and it absolutely will not stop until your balance is dead.

This was SIX HUNDRED FUCKING QUID on 40p spins.

 

[lotusch]

BTG at it's best!

 

[lotusch]

This game is basically the slots version of a Terminator.

It doesn't feel pity, it doesn't feel remorse, and it absolutely will not stop until your balance is dead.

This was SIX HUNDRED FUCKING QUID on 40p spins.

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I have the same "issue" as you but I play The Final Countdown..
Have been playing this slot each and every session on Casumo in the last 2 weeks and it is just a pure vile money sucking hoover.
Despite the videos I have seen on Youtube with massive wins and max retriggers on that Countdown Feature.
I can't even get past stage 1 FFS.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I'd feel more hopeful of something good happening if I were submerged at the bottom of a lake, with two concrete blocks chained to my ankles, having been injected with enough heroin to kill a herd of cows, and just for good measure I'd been shot through the heart as well.

In that scenario, at least God could potentially save me.

Nothing can save you from BTG.

Yes of course there's a MONSTER HIT in there somewhere no doubt, it's all about the potential isn't it...... This is the reason I never played one single penny of real money through The Final Countdown after my big hit, it really is chasing rainbows.

 

[dunover]

This game is basically the slots version of a Terminator.

It doesn't feel pity, it doesn't feel remorse, and it absolutely will not stop until your balance is dead.

This was SIX HUNDRED FUCKING QUID on 40p spins.

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Egg-timer variance it's called. Death by 10,000 cuts.

 

[unknownxx]

This game is basically the slots version of a Terminator.

It doesn't feel pity, it doesn't feel remorse, and it absolutely will not stop until your balance is dead.

This was SIX HUNDRED FUCKING QUID on 40p spins.

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Great, now put in another 300/600 and do the same with Bonanza so we can compare the results!

Jokes aside, although it was 600 on 40p bets - thats nothing exclusive to this slot. At least you had multiple bonus rounds. Took me more than once 1000+ spins to get ONE bonus on another quality game made by BTG - Final Countdown, don´t even need to talk about Bonanza (which feels great and on fire compared to a lot of other BTG games, Danger High Voltage would be the only one I´d exclude, that one tends to at least spit a few okayish/decent bonus rounds in a session)