Irresponsible streamers & affiliates?

Slotplayer83

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60$ "bet" on Lil devil. From all the (legitimate) casino's ive seen none of them had a bet higher then 20 a spin or some even 10. This tool promotes vague and rogue casino's (again) in curacao with 60$ spins. How is this even possible and supported on youtube really? Talking about irresponsible reckless streamers.
 
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60$ "bet" on Lil devil. From all the (legitimate) casino's ive seen none of them had a bet higher then 20 a spin or some even 10. This tool promotes vague and rogue casino's (again) in curacao with 60$ spins. How is this even possible and supported on youtube really? Talking about irresponsible reckless streamers.
Its Gamdom that's why
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Gamdom, Stake and Roobet are all the fake money streamers as already explained countless times on this forum.
 

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60$ "bet" on Lil devil. From all the (legitimate) casino's ive seen none of them had a bet higher then 20 a spin or some even 10. This tool promotes vague and rogue casino's (again) in curacao with 60$ spins. How is this even possible and supported on youtube really? Talking about irresponsible reckless streamers.
If you are in any doubt of the ethics behind this company (Smein) read the article below - they even approached kids to promote them on YT:
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What about the providers providing these sites with slots.
They are also making money from this, no?

Or are these sites using pirated versions of PP&Btg slots?
 

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60$ "bet" on Lil devil. From all the (legitimate) casino's ive seen none of them had a bet higher then 20 a spin or some even 10. This tool promotes vague and rogue casino's (again) in curacao with 60$ spins. How is this even possible and supported on youtube really? Talking about irresponsible reckless streamers.
I was looking into YouTube's terms and conditions, apparently you can only stream from casinos approved by YouTube...something tells me that this casino isn't :) and I bet they'd do nothing about it if you reported him...shocking.!
 

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Twat with the hat €2.5million euro win in the base game on pragmatic fruit party now doing €1000 a spin on slots, on stake casino? Surely be a billionaire soon that bloke in Monopoly money
 

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They are disgusting cretins. And pragmatic are scum too in my oppinion for even entertaining a joke like him. Btg are tarts as well for letting chip promote there games lower than a snakes belly and the shits gonna hit the fan soon and the gravy will be over
 

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surely the slot providers will say something soon about the fake affiliates and bogus wins? it has got to have an effect on their bottom line!
2.5million is a hell of a discrepancy to justify either as a slot provider or casino
 

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surely the slot providers will say something soon about the fake affiliates and bogus wins? it has got to have an effect on their bottom line!
2.5million is a hell of a discrepancy to justify either as a slot provider or casino
I also thought Prag had a max win on most of there slots
 

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surely the slot providers will say something soon about the fake affiliates and bogus wins? it has got to have an effect on their bottom line!
2.5million is a hell of a discrepancy to justify either as a slot provider or casino
They made it clear on here, before they ran away, that they don't care.
 

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What’s actually the score at the moment regarding gambling content on YouTube?

This morning without logging in (was using work pc) I could watch Nickslots live stream and the awful Chipmonkz live? Yet if I click on any of rolla’s vids they’re all age gated. I can also watch Dazzas latest without signing in either. Bandits latest vid and hideous slots are all available to watch with no age verification either???

Is it one rule for some and different for others?!!

Obv Hideous and chip have fucked off to Ireland but chip still has advertisements for casinos plastered all over his content?
 

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Dunno who really take these streamers really seriously, for me it just somehow feels that if i see Spiderman or Superman in telly, i right away think that i can do same i saw they did in movie.

Are people these days really incompetent to use their brains and understand that you don't really win from slots and playing them is one of the most stupid thing financially and just come problem gamblers after seeing some stream and started to think this way i can get rich? If yes, i start to lose my hope in the human population.

If i ever hear my daughter playing slots, she can forget her inheritance right away, can figure out around million better ways to spend money than donating it to online casinos..
 

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If you are marketing in your videos, i.e. offering specific named casino review links to your 3rd. party site with the casino featured in the video, sponsored by the casino/displaying their brand or talking about their offers etc. then if aimed at UK players you should age gate content. So in other words the videos are involved in the promotion of gaming of UKGC-licensed operators to UK viewers.

Personal gambling activity including none of the above has no requirement to age-gate which is why you get millions of videos of people say in US land-based casinos, UK pubs/bookies or online casinos without it. It's difficult to police for YT as numerous news articles for example will feature gambling and also YT do NOT classify gambling as 'Harmful Content' like weapons, political extremism, false health messages etc. YT do not allow direct casino marketing links in videos or comments either, only your own third-party site. As you will see, the streamers are careful to avoid this because of strikes.

As for streamers moving to Ireland, this is a grey area as IF in their activities they can recruit or advertise to UK players and then get paid by UKGC casinos/affiliate programmes for doing so then they should age-gate. It seems that they think by moving out of the UK (unless for lower taxes) they are exempt from UKGC LCCP etc. guidelines and although UK players are only maybe a fraction of their recruits it still results in them being able to not age gate AND recruit UK players in breach of these guidelines and rules. This is what I mean by a grey area. So they are operating according to the rules of more 'lenient' or less regulated markets but then recruiting UK under that criteria, so what is the solution? The only way I can see is that their affiliate programmes do not allow or pay for any UK players if they are advertising from a less-regulated jurisdiction.

I think old coffeegrounds is a classic example - a big channel, part-owned by a UKGC licensed casino Leo Vegas that promote a lot of UK-licensed sites and therefore recruit UK players whilst not age gating promotional content because the majority of their markets don't require them to do so. So they are getting players in other markets but NOT distinguishing those players from UK which leads me back to my point at the end of the above paragraph. And therein lies the issue - it would be a terrible business decision for them to age-gate everything as judging by their views and video quantity they are getting thousands per month in YT ads revenue which would decrease 95% if they acted according to UK rules. So would they sacrifice substantial ad revenues just for one out tens of their markets?

Ultimately it's down to the affiliate programmes to decipher the permutations of locations, licensing jurisdictions and geo-separation because clearly there is a conflict arising from different rules in various markets and the fact the gambling businesses are multinational. Remember YT has no requirement to age-gate and we have to distinguish between gambling as an activity and the marketing of gambling brands.
 

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Seems some interpret the rules different to others then. Either that or the rules are not strict and straight forward enough.

Some are just quite happy to crack on regardless with little care whilst the others who tow the line (normally the better ones with better morals) suffer the most.
 

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Seems some interpret the rules different to others then. Either that or the rules are not strict and straight forward enough.

Some are just quite happy to crack on regardless with little care whilst the others who tow the line (normally the better ones with better morals) suffer the most.
The rules couldn't be simpler.
If you promote to the UK then you must age gate. That is it.
Certain casinos seem to think it doesn't apply to them, and will be the first to cry when they get a penalty, for example, Playgrand & Videoslots two from here for example.
 
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