Feels so rigged nowadays...
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I've only played money cart 1/2 as 3/4 are rubbish RTP so no point playing them but on those ones its effectively a zero win or a bonus round with the win being 10x less than what you would get in a normal bonus at that stake.
Let's pretend there are only 1000 possible spin results and 250 are wins. You just managed to get 48 of the 750 possibilities are that are duds in a row. The reality is essentially this just scaled up to millions (or more if not ball in a bag design)
I've had periods where my balance absolutely tanked on money cart 2, although it can usually stay quite stable, so you just had a bad streak of dud rounds. The odds aren't that low but its definitely going to be more likely to happen on a slot like this than a normal slot where the spins aren't just 1/10th bonus rounds
In summary, perfectly normal but just a bad run, the 94% RTP won't have helped either.
Why on earth would you spin on a rubbish game like that? Might as well just play on a new RAW game or just get a lighter and burn the notes.
If you find the right games they can pay I just won £200 on Apollo Pays just avoid games like Money Cart, fishing and RAW.
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You might want to revise that opinion when you work out the odds of avoiding a 25% chance for 48 consecutive picks.
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It can bonus 3-4 times in as little as 20-25 spins
However, I agree with others, it is rubbish and don't bother, far better games out there
Mostly all rigged too, but defo better games
However, I agree with others, it is rubbish and don't bother, far better games out there
Mostly all rigged too, but defo better games
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As far as outlandish bad luck posts go, one in a million is smaller than some of the odd I've calculatedYou might want to revise that opinion when you work out the odds of avoiding a 25% chance for 48 consecutive picks.
But back to reality, you are right, I erroneously chose a much higher number than I should have and made my point at odds (ayy) with itself.
I chose 25% as a quick example since alot of slots have a 30% hit rate. But I should have listened to myself as this slot doesn't play like most slots.
According to a bit of googling it's apparently 10% which is a 0.63% chance of happening 48 times in a row or 1 in 157, a chance that would have been congruent with the tone of my reply.
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Slots right now are a ****ing disgrace. Cheating, filthy, dirty providers and the Casinos that harbour them.
It isn’t gambling….it’s been systematically robbed by a bunch of crooks but there’s nothing you can do about it, apart from stop playing.
It isn’t gambling….it’s been systematically robbed by a bunch of crooks but there’s nothing you can do about it, apart from stop playing.
It is shit and unfortunately it is due to slot providers all but binning wins which will keep you playing in favour of larger less frequent wins. Money Cart is just an evolution of getting rid of stupid things like play time in favour of pushing larger bonus or bust level stakes (yes I know you can bet small on them but honestly, what’s the point).
As for that run, I’d imaging the odds of getting a “bonus” are worse than 1 in 10 so 48 straight spins without a bonus is nothing.
For awareness of random outside of slots, I buy scratchcards from time to time and the worst odds on the ones I buy are around 1 in 4.2 or thereabouts, often better. I’m currently on a 25 card losing streak.
As for that run, I’d imaging the odds of getting a “bonus” are worse than 1 in 10 so 48 straight spins without a bonus is nothing.
For awareness of random outside of slots, I buy scratchcards from time to time and the worst odds on the ones I buy are around 1 in 4.2 or thereabouts, often better. I’m currently on a 25 card losing streak.
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It’s always been the same, it’s just that now it’s easier than ever to spot the patterns because of the lower rtp’s. Things that used to happen regularly on slots, now don’t happen at all.
Take Birds on a Wire for example. You could regularly hit 4 scatters, reasonably often 5 and occasionally 6 (never had more). Nowadays 3 is rare, 4 extremely rare, 5 virtually impossible and you never see 6.
The problem with providers and Casinos is they think they can fool all of the people, all of the time.
Dead or Alive is the same. Put £10 through at 9 or 18p and it was rare not to see a bonus and you probably see 2 or 3. Not now! You can put £5 through without even seeing 2 scatters.
The biggest crooks out there, provider wise are Evolution/BTG and the biggest scamming Casino is Mr Vegas.
I have had sessions at Mr Vegas that don’t parallel the same slots, same rtp, same gameplay as other Casinos. This is based on over 2 and a half years of solid play. The shite they are putting out is criminal.
Take Birds on a Wire for example. You could regularly hit 4 scatters, reasonably often 5 and occasionally 6 (never had more). Nowadays 3 is rare, 4 extremely rare, 5 virtually impossible and you never see 6.
The problem with providers and Casinos is they think they can fool all of the people, all of the time.
Dead or Alive is the same. Put £10 through at 9 or 18p and it was rare not to see a bonus and you probably see 2 or 3. Not now! You can put £5 through without even seeing 2 scatters.
The biggest crooks out there, provider wise are Evolution/BTG and the biggest scamming Casino is Mr Vegas.
I have had sessions at Mr Vegas that don’t parallel the same slots, same rtp, same gameplay as other Casinos. This is based on over 2 and a half years of solid play. The shite they are putting out is criminal.
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When this situation occurs, it is better to just take a short break or change the slot. There are so many providers and different slots in the world, that it is not difficult to find something of your own
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I came back to slotting after quiting in 2020 when they started dropping RTPs.
It's so brutal now as a 10p 20p player you can barley get a base game win over 40x and you're lucky if a bonus ever drops in.
Providers and UKGC have changed the Landscape for the worst, it's all about profits and how we can fleece the people.
Guess ill be going back to retro gaming as any and every entertainment has been tainted by Greed.
It's so brutal now as a 10p 20p player you can barley get a base game win over 40x and you're lucky if a bonus ever drops in.
Providers and UKGC have changed the Landscape for the worst, it's all about profits and how we can fleece the people.
Guess ill be going back to retro gaming as any and every entertainment has been tainted by Greed.
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Just to give some substance to my claims that Mr Vegas are running slots that are bent to shite, look at these stats.
I know it’s a relatively low sample but it’s not a highly volatile game (well, unless you play at Me Vegas). It’s complete and utter bullshit, cheating disgusting filth.
A play through of £575 and the highest win is £12.80, what a ****ing pisstake and as you can tell from the rtp most of that £575 wasn’t recycled.
I know it’s a relatively low sample but it’s not a highly volatile game (well, unless you play at Me Vegas). It’s complete and utter bullshit, cheating disgusting filth.
A play through of £575 and the highest win is £12.80, what a ****ing pisstake and as you can tell from the rtp most of that £575 wasn’t recycled.
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Had a look at the upcoming slots list on another place-that-shall-not-be-named. Apart from a couple of Red Tigers and 3 reelers, most slots on the way for May 2025 are 5000-10000-20000x max win, in some cases even more.
And we wonder why we're losing.
And we wonder why we're losing.
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With everything around us being shrinkflationed to within an inch of its life, it's no real surprise to see slots follow suit, much like other forms of entertainment.
Whilst the older titles get bastardized, to many casinos it matters little, as the games are viewed as old hat, finite, and their loyal player base easy pickings based on sentimentality. Casino overheads go up, and a smaller user base gets to foot the bill by paying more for less, to keep things ticking along.
As for the 'newer' titles, they're less slots and more streamer-adjacent scratchcard wankathons, where the variance is so absurdly lopsided and Bonus Buy-oriented that it's not even remotely entertaining anymore, as the win ceilings launch into the stratosphere.
One hopes for a return to wholesome, joy-filled medium- varianced slotting simplicity of days gone by, why not. Let's hope this current trend meets an untimely demise, sooner rather than later
Whilst the older titles get bastardized, to many casinos it matters little, as the games are viewed as old hat, finite, and their loyal player base easy pickings based on sentimentality. Casino overheads go up, and a smaller user base gets to foot the bill by paying more for less, to keep things ticking along.
As for the 'newer' titles, they're less slots and more streamer-adjacent scratchcard wankathons, where the variance is so absurdly lopsided and Bonus Buy-oriented that it's not even remotely entertaining anymore, as the win ceilings launch into the stratosphere.
One hopes for a return to wholesome, joy-filled medium- varianced slotting simplicity of days gone by, why not. Let's hope this current trend meets an untimely demise, sooner rather than later
One hopes for a return to wholesome, joy-filled medium- varianced slotting simplicity of days gone by, why not. Let's hope this current trend meets an untimely demise, sooner rather than later
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Well after reopening my account with ABC and spending a few weeks playing, I can finally say it was no fun seeing the predictability of what slots do these days.
So I'm going to delete my account and move on from slotting all together.
All the best CM community hope the future bodes well for you.
So I'm going to delete my account and move on from slotting all together.
All the best CM community hope the future bodes well for you.
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Well done that man!
I’m in the process of closing my remaining accounts too. Just closed one, where they have endless functions, literally hundreds. Can you find the “close account” option? Not without a lot of searching you can’t. Devious *******!
I think the biggest crime is how inevitable the BS put on screen in no way reflects what you believe should or can happen.
To give you an idea of how this changed, take Bruce Lee as a good slot for an example of how things should work.
You have three features; one is mostly gash, one can be gash but also decent every so often and one, which is genuinely difficult to land, hits pay dirt most of the time.
So the slot accurately sets up and reflects what is generally happening on screen. You will rarely get the four matching symbols, three chest combo for 20 spins but when you do, chunky pay is coming your way.
Nowadays, you hit these pseudo monster features with incredible mulipliers or persistent payers or all such bollox, and the slot subsequently, and very obviously, immediately ends the bonus or completes with multiple dead spins.
When you first witnessed this you thought you were unlucky, when you next witnessed this you smelt a rat, now it is almost so comical to the point you can actually call it quite easily as it is so often badly programmed. It’s stopped being even slightly thrilling for the most part and turning a bit boring, which, to be honest, may not be a bad thing for most of us. Sad though.
To give you an idea of how this changed, take Bruce Lee as a good slot for an example of how things should work.
You have three features; one is mostly gash, one can be gash but also decent every so often and one, which is genuinely difficult to land, hits pay dirt most of the time.
So the slot accurately sets up and reflects what is generally happening on screen. You will rarely get the four matching symbols, three chest combo for 20 spins but when you do, chunky pay is coming your way.
Nowadays, you hit these pseudo monster features with incredible mulipliers or persistent payers or all such bollox, and the slot subsequently, and very obviously, immediately ends the bonus or completes with multiple dead spins.
When you first witnessed this you thought you were unlucky, when you next witnessed this you smelt a rat, now it is almost so comical to the point you can actually call it quite easily as it is so often badly programmed. It’s stopped being even slightly thrilling for the most part and turning a bit boring, which, to be honest, may not be a bad thing for most of us. Sad though.
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