New Slot Announcement Dragon born 117649 ways at unibet!

[Jd666]

Well.... At least he got it lowered to 20p a spin before he got the boot :nod:

 

[dunover]

Ha! I just saw Bryan's BUUULSHIT! video!
Glad my soundbite and 'Raping Rhino' got a hearing....

 

[nutnut]

Again with that previous win, £200 x 2800 = £560,000 pay off the mortgage and buy a new car

Will never play this game or any of this softwares again, this post always stuck in my head and several this account made on this thread. Dodgy as hell.

 

[gagamel]

By law, GGA, MGA, UKGC, Alderney and other jurisdictions rule we must operate the demo server exactly the same as the real play server, which we do. Spikes in volatility are generally down to the amount of people playing. However, volume is not always the case, as during initial play tests one of our internal testers hit x4500 with "Fleur de Lis" within a couple of spins. It's all really down luck of the draw!

Just as a general update Dragon Born went live on Betsson today and will be live on Bet365 next week.

Big Time Gaming official

If this is true slots are not random. Maybe this guy will die a horrible whistle blower dead, hiding himself in a north corean embassy, killed by NetBent agents.

I hope he told us Bullshit, but I`m in doubt

 

[geordiecolin]

If this is true slots are not random. Maybe this guy will die a horrible whistle blower dead, hiding himself in a north corean embassy, killed by NetBent agents.

I hope he told us Bullshit, but I`m in doubt

My hunch is that gambling authorities are not only in place in order to serve the public but also to assist the casino's. So to that effect they will be duty bound to give some leeway in helping them balance their books in the form of slight manipulation of RTP rules as long as over an extended period of time their slots achieve their payout %.
If I am correct then they are not quite as random as we are led to believe

 

[Blathaon]

magicjohnson posted a story of his big win earlier in the thread https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/dragon-born-117649-ways-at-unibet.71146/, the second screenshot in his post is the same as the leading screenshot ahead of my own submission in their competition Old / Expired Link, there is a 1000£ price to be won. My screenshot is "only" 394xBet, and this being a high variance slot i expect to lose. But i expect to lose to other players, not by the host of the competition cheating...

So assuming that what Casinomeister posted is indeed correct and that magicjohnson and BigTimeGaming is the one and the same, they are not only being dishonest here but also manipulating their own competition.

I have secured video and screenshots of their competition page in case they try to change anything.

 

[ginzink]

It's a mistake to bet high on this game - I've been playing Dragon Born since launch and it has to be said, yes, it sucks like and Electrolux!

I hadn't played it for a few days and I saw Rex playing it on twitch when he got 25 free spins which got me interested again. I went in on the lowest stake (£1) with a £300 balance, which is what I usually do with Rhino (@1.20 which by the way invariably chomps through my roll 9 time out of 10 before something major happens).

Cut a long story short, I'm over 250 down (not sure how many spins, perhaps 400?) with no bonus, in fact nothing more that a 20x for a cluster of Kings and a few other small wins when a heart stopper kicks in and slowly fills up every reel with a diamond giving me 50 free spins!

High point of which:

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Won 76 free spins and completed the Bonus with almost 1500 (not much more came in for the remaining spins)

I continued and played through another few hundred rounds although to be honest I lost count exactly how many as my balance dipped down to 1300. I have to say on Rhino I would have cashed out 90% straight after the feature but I just thought I'd push it down to 1000 and then cash out 700 up.

Then this:

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Time to cash out, yes indeed!

It certainly blows hot and cold but I have to say when it pays it convinces you that it will keep on paying, which is a little dangerous. I think I'll be chasing the Dragon for some time to come, it just feels like a completely different game every time I play it which I guess is down to the ever changing reels.

They should update the RTP though, IMO it would make it one of the best slots out there!

That last part about the rtp, he is a pro about hiding the fact that he is actualy the operator! This post is the one that made me want to play more to experince such a win, it being a concealed operator post is sickening!

 

[lockinlove]

what the hell? So strange.

So this game obviously needs to be audited now to prove its proper.

 

[lockinlove]

That last part about the rtp, he is a pro about hiding the fact that he is actualy the operator! This post is the one that made me want to play more to experince such a win, it being a concealed operator post is sickening!

What I find really strange is the official talks about Rex on twitch. Who, if anyone is familiar, is a streamer who is incredibly lucky. Pretty much wins hundreds to thousands of dollars alot of sessions he plays. But hes not that popular to be brought up here like many of us would know who it is. He has 150-200 viewers most times..so pretty small.

I dont want to make accusations but could this person actually be rex? Just throwing it out there. No offense meant if im off

 

[Casinomeister]

magicjohnson posted a story of his big win earlier in the thread https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/dragon-born-117649-ways-at-unibet.71146/, the second screenshot in his post is the same as the leading screenshot ahead of my own submission in their competition Old / Expired Link, there is a 1000£ price to be won. My screenshot is "only" 394xBet, and this being a high variance slot i expect to lose. But i expect to lose to other players, not by the host of the competition cheating...

So assuming that what Casinomeister posted is indeed correct and that magicjohnson and BigTimeGaming is the one and the same, they are not only being dishonest here but also manipulating their own competition.

I have secured video and screenshots of their competition page in case they try to change anything.

Yeah, this contest is total bullshit. Look what it says under the screenshot: "Great win by M.P. from Brighton!"

The Magicjohnson account is in the UK.

And this hammers in the fact that there is something amiss with this software provider. Caveat emptor.

 

[eizei]

I really liked this slot so it's extremely disappointing to see such dishonesty from the operator and this makes me much less likely to play their games. Every company operating online should just embrace this quote from Gabe Newell:

One of the things we learned pretty early on is don't ever, ever try to lie to the internet - because they will catch you. They will de-construct your spin. They will remember everything you ever say for eternity.

 

[Blathaon]

magicjohnson posted a story of his big win earlier in the thread https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/dragon-born-117649-ways-at-unibet.71146/, the second screenshot in his post is the same as the leading screenshot ahead of my own submission in their competition Old / Expired Link, there is a 1000£ price to be won. My screenshot is "only" 394xBet, and this being a high variance slot i expect to lose. But i expect to lose to other players, not by the host of the competition cheating...

So assuming that what Casinomeister posted is indeed correct and that magicjohnson and BigTimeGaming is the one and the same, they are not only being dishonest here but also manipulating their own competition.

I have secured video and screenshots of their competition page in case they try to change anything.

I noticed that they have removed the screenshot from their site Old / Expired Link, but the direct link to the picture still works Old / Expired Link

Here is screenshot and video of their site that i took on Friday evening.

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[Nate]

I noticed that they have removed the screenshot from their site ...
Here is screenshot and video of their site that i took on Friday evening....

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Wow just WOW - I cant believe these guys would stoop to this level. I came out in the Dragon Borne thread to say that it was a money gobbler - Its funny how quickly magic johnson pitched up and added his screenshots.

You guys are tops - Great Spot Blathaon and nice work CM.

Im still amazed that these guys would fabricate a win to rig their own competition, how pathetic and sad from a software provider!

Now some people have alleged this game plays differently in fun... Makes one wonder how far they really stooped? I for one felt that but didn't wanna use my tin foil hat - as yet!

Nate

 

[ginzink]

I have a hard time stopping to play this slot as i really really like it! such a shame it was made by a company like this but i really feel uncertain that this game plays fair, cant the reps from acredited casinos do something to verify it? I trust leovegas/unibet/videoslots, while bigtimegaming got the same trust as the most rogue trash site at the moment

 

[spoton]

It seems like the guys with the shell games on the street have taken it up a notch and went online.

Nice find Blathaon.

I will expect that the casinos that has slots from this supplier in their selection will demand the company to come up with a pretty good explanation here...

 

[dunover]

I played the slot in a video review I did and didn't find or suspect anything amiss with it. I'm sure it's been audited as it's available to UK players.
This seems like a stunt by the provider for publicity, but offering a prize which can't be won by anyone bar their shill is a complete f*cking joke. Has backfired on them big time. And Magic Johnson has AIDS. (All-In Dumb Shill...)

 

[colinsunderland]

I've been watching this develop waiting for BTG to respond.

The fact they haven't speaks volumes, if the allegations were false they would have been straight on the thread denying any wrongdoing.

The fact they haven't responded means, in my eyes, at least one of the following:

1. They are hoping it will blow over and they get away with just not saying anything.
2. They are having to work out what evidence there is against them so they can come up with a story that refutes it all rather than getting caught out on the details later.
3. They know the allegations are true and by responding at all, it will just make things worse.

They are dishonest and I don't think anyone should play their games, I certainly won't be spending another penny on them, and I've lost over £500 on dragon born.

Regarding the games being audited, I'm sure it has, however if they are happy to con people out of winning a measly £1000, and lets be honest, that should be nothing to them, I'm sure its not hard to cheat an audit, look at VW recently

 

[ginzink]

Regarding the games being audited, I'm sure it has, however if they are happy to con people out of winning a measly £1000, and lets be honest, that should be nothing to them, I'm sure its not hard to cheat an audit, look at VW recently

I guess the best casinos can do is look at if some players win alot on the slots. They could have lower rtp and a cheat so they can cash out the wins making the rtp 95%. Dont see another way they could make more money as they are paid per spin (?)

 

[dunover]

I've been watching this develop waiting for BTG to respond.

The fact they haven't speaks volumes, if the allegations were false they would have been straight on the thread denying any wrongdoing.

The fact they haven't responded means, in my eyes, at least one of the following:

1. They are hoping it will blow over and they get away with just not saying anything.
2. They are having to work out what evidence there is against them so they can come up with a story that refutes it all rather than getting caught out on the details later.
3. They know the allegations are true and by responding at all, it will just make things worse.

They are dishonest and I don't think anyone should play their games, I certainly won't be spending another penny on them, and I've lost over £500 on dragon born.

Regarding the games being audited, I'm sure it has, however if they are happy to con people out of winning a measly £1000, and lets be honest, that should be nothing to them, I'm sure its not hard to cheat an audit, look at VW recently

Yes, but the VW audit is not fully independent unlike the GC audits. I trust the game, not the manufacturers.

 

[Nate]

I've been watching this develop waiting for BTG to respond.

The fact they haven't speaks volumes, if the allegations were false they would have been straight on the thread denying any wrongdoing.

I think it would be fair to say they have not responded because their rep was banned for shilling.

Maybe a new rep will come on board and try to clean up the mess they made, maybe they wont and will let it lie as is.

Makes you wonder why the other Major providers like NetEnt and MG never have reps on the forum. I suppose it would be a never ending battle answering questions all day long

I for one am still in disbelief over the screenshot debacle - Were they really that desperate that they would risk their reputation over 1000 Pounds? Another thing - I'm certain that slot doesn't show the difference between real and fun play (Maybe someone can point it out to me?). The screenies might be fake or BTG could be playing their own slot at some casinos - Can of worms....

This is what you get when you are unethical - speculation wont end.

Nate

 

[dunover]

I think it would be fair to say they have not responded because their rep was banned for shilling.

Maybe a new rep will come on board and try to clean up the mess they made, maybe they wont and will let it lie as is.

Makes you wonder why the other Major providers like NetEnt and MG never have reps on the forum. I suppose it would be a never ending battle answering questions all day long

I for one am still in disbelief over the screenshot debacle - Were they really that desperate that they would risk their reputation over 1000 Pounds? Another thing - I'm certain that slot doesn't show the difference between real and fun play (Maybe someone can point it out to me?). The screenies might be fake or BTG could be playing their own slot at some casinos - Can of worms....

This is what you get when you are unethical - speculation wont end.

Nate

No, when I reviewed it on YT it doesn't say 'fun' or 'real' but in most casinos you would see a valid currency displayed if in real mode.

 

[colinsunderland]

I think it would be fair to say they have not responded because their rep was banned for shilling.

they could have quite easily created another account to respond, even if it was banned straight away the response would be shown.
They could pm or email Brian directly to put their concerns across.

I am sure if I owned a company and was accused of being dishonest when I wasn't I would make damn sure my message would be heard!

 

[ProbabilityZero]

I have a hard time stopping to play this slot as i really really like it! such a shame it was made by a company like this but i really feel uncertain that this game plays fair, cant the reps from acredited casinos do something to verify it? I trust leovegas/unibet/videoslots, while bigtimegaming got the same trust as the most rogue trash site at the moment

I was punished so badly on this even on 20p bets. I then chased losses with £1 and had a 10% RTP

I love the slot but am now very wary. Lack of integrity makes it a no go.

 

[dionysus]

I see Big Time Gaming has their colours back

 

[Big Time Gaming]

From Nik Robinson CEO Big Time Gaming:2/3/16

Dear Forum Members,

Bryan has kindly allowed Big Time Gaming back into the forum.

Firstly, I would like to apologise for the creation of the shill account. This was done from within our HQ here in Sydney and was created by an over excited junior member of staff that took it on himself "to show the games potential". This individual has been reprimanded severely. I have now taken charge of this account and will personally be the only individual posting on behalf of Big Time Gaming official.

We are deeply sorry for any ill feeling caused by the shill and the competition post (that would not have seen the light of day as we need to put an operators name against the final draw) needless to say, this entry has been removed.

Feel free to keep on bashing us if you wish and I will take it on the chin, as CEO of the business I take full responsibility.

I would like to say that Big Time Gaming is an independent business and integrity and honesty are our core values. We hope that one bad apple is not going to create long term bad feeling, so, give us a chance to listen to you on games feedback and we hope to gain back your trust.

Sincerely

Nik Robinson

Big Time Gaming official