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The UK haulage industry is almost paralised and the UK gov has made no provisions for the working practices of the haulage industry and goods don't deliver themselves. Nearly half are already off the road. The Haulage Associations CE has warned that most companies work on small margines which means they only have 2-3 weeks worth of funds in their coffers which means they are all just about broke.
Even the ones who are working are finding issue with stopping of at services because everything is closed down. Hauliers are what keep the country ticking so I hope that they include them as key workers because everything including farming will be fucked soon

Haulage companies are already classified as key workers. Concessions have been made to the industry such as the lifting of any Council delivery restrictions, non enforcement of the LLCS scheme, delay of MOT and servicing, relaxation of some driving hour rules and regulations and discussion is ongoing regarding driving license renewals.

We, as a supermarket, spent a fortune on sub contractors (hauliers) so there is some work to be picked up. Not enough to fill all of the gaps though.

The furlough scheme is also open to them, and I know of some hauliers that are making use of that.
 

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Haulage companies are already classified as key workers. Concessions have been made to the industry such as the lifting of any Council delivery restrictions, non enforcement of the LLCS scheme, delay of MOT and servicing, relaxation of some driving hour rules and regulations and discussion is ongoing regarding driving license renewals.

We, as a supermarket, spent a fortune on sub contractors (hauliers) so there is some work to be picked up. Not enough to fill all of the gaps though.

The furlough scheme is also open to them, and I know of some hauliers that are making use of that.
Haulage companies are already classified as key workers. Concessions have been made to the industry such as the lifting of any Council delivery restrictions, non enforcement of the LLCS scheme, delay of MOT and servicing, relaxation of some driving hour rules and regulations and discussion is ongoing regarding driving license renewals.

We, as a supermarket, spent a fortune on sub contractors (hauliers) so there is some work to be picked up. Not enough to fill all of the gaps though.

The furlough scheme is also open to them, and I know of some hauliers that are making use of that.
You seem to have posted a quote from the supermarket industry which themselves as well as their hauliers are key workers. The Supermarket industry will have picked up some of the drivers who had lost work. My guess is that many of those are self employed,as are many long haul drivers.
However that does not account for almost 50% of drivers and vehicles being at a stand still.
The Haulage Association's C E has been crying out for intervention from the government because the governments messures are not helping them
 

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You seem to have posted a quote from the supermarket industry which themselves as well as their hauliers are key workers. The Supermarket industry will have picked up some drivers had lost work. My guess is that many of those are self employed,as are many long haul drivers.
However that does not account for almost 50% of drivers and vehicles being at a stand still.
The Haulage Association's C E has been crying out for intervention from the government because the governments messures are not helping them

The whole industry is classified as key workers

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Those who will keep air, water, road and rail passenger and freight transport modes operating during the Covid-19 response.

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When I said that we use hauliers, it is exactly that. A vehicle and driver owned by a 3rd party operator that otherwise would have done other haulier work.

The Haulage Association is just doing its job, that is make a case for their members and get them as much as needed help from the Government.
 

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The whole industry is classified as key workers

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Those who will keep air, water, road and rail passenger and freight transport modes operating during the Covid-19 response.

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When I said that we use hauliers, it is exactly that. A vehicle and driver owned by a 3rd party operator that otherwise would have done other haulier work.

The Haulage Association is just doing its job, that is make a case for their members and get them as much as needed help from the Government.
Yes they are classed as keyworkers but they are unable to do their job.
 

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Yes they are classed as keyworkers but they are unable to do their job.

And neither are all teachers and nursery workers..... they are in a similar position to the drivers.

As said, the furlough system is available for the drivers so they get 80% of their wage if their bosses decide to select this option. I know that quite a few have.

Compared to say the leisure industry, the haulage industry is not as bad off because some work is available.

I am sure that the Haulage Association will do what they get paid to do, and that is lobby Government.
 

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And neither are all teachers and nursery workers..... they are in a similar position to the drivers.

As said, the furlough system is available for the drivers so they get 80% of their wage if their bosses decide to select this option. I know that quite a few have.

Compared to say the leisure industry, the haulage industry is not as bad off because some work is available.

I am sure that the Haulage Association will do what they get paid to do, and that is lobby Government.
There is a huge difference between key workers such as Teachers and nursery workers who can simply walk into a fully functioning School and an industry that relies on keeping in business so that they are able to get back to it asap.
Most Haulage drivers are self employed.
 

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No movement of things like bricks, furniture,cloths,ect.ect. No stocking up of pubs and restaunts.No aircraft containing things needing transported on. Container traffic into seaports. No concerts moving from town to town. The list is endless.
My point is that many of these businesses will cease to exist if they do not get the intervention that they are asking for. The haulage industry state that they usually work on 2% which in real terms gives them 2-3 weeks before they go into the red.
 

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There is a huge difference between key workers such as Teachers and nursery workers who can simply walk into a fully functioning School and an industry that relies on keeping in business so that they are able to get back to it asap.
Most Haulage drivers are self employed.

But schools and nurseries are not fully functioning though are they. They are all but closed apart from key workers children so they won't need the same amount of teachers so the majority will be sitting at home wondering when things will go back to normal and return back to work.

You will find that most drivers are employed. The number of "owner drivers" is reducing year on year because it simply is not an easy business to make profit on, even when times are good.
 

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No movement of things like bricks, furniture,cloths,ect.ect. No stocking up of pubs and restaunts.No aircraft containing things needing transported on. Container traffic into seaports. No concerts moving from town to town. The list is endless.
My point is that many of these businesses will cease to exist if they do not get the intervention that they are asking for. The haulage industry state that they usually work on 2% which in real terms gives them 2-3 weeks before they go into the red.

I agree that margins are slim, hence that even the likes of Eddie Stobart are struggling to keep afloat.

They need help, I never said any different.
 

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But schools and nurseries are not fully functioning though are they. They are all but closed apart from key workers children so they won't need the same amount of teachers so the majority will be sitting at home wondering when things will go back to normal and return back to work.

You will find that most drivers are employed. The number of "owner drivers" is reducing year on year because it simply is not an easy business to make profit on, even when times are good.
You did not fully understand the distiction that I was attempting to make. A school and its infrastructior is going to be there tomorrow. Once a large % of an industry is out of business is a lot harder to mobilise.
 

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I agree that margins are slim, hence that even the likes of Eddie Stobart are struggling to keep afloat.

They need help, I never said any different.
Here is an article that gives both sides of the coin. I personally don't care too much about cloths,bricks, cuddly toys and the like although it is all a huge part of what makes our economy. What I care about is the break down of the ability to provide food and essencials.

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You did not fully understand the distiction that I was attempting to make. A school and its infrastructior is going to be there tomorrow. Once a large % of an industry is out of business is a lot harder to mobilise.

There are, without a doubt, going to casualties but once all of this over the freight will continue to be moved. Somebody will pick up the work.

No different to the airline industry who, too, has been screaming for Government help, to no avail so far.

Government will have to decide who they are going to bail out.... airlines, haulage companies, pubs, cinemas etc.

There is additional stuff that can be done for the haulage industry, such as abolishment of VED for a period of time, reduction of duty on diesel etc.
 

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There are, without a doubt, going to casualties but once all of this over the freight will continue to be moved. Somebody will pick up the work.

No different to the airline industry who, too, has been screaming for Government help, to no avail so far.

Government will have to decide who they are going to bail out.... airlines, haulage companies, pubs, cinemas etc.

There is additional stuff that can be done for the haulage industry, such as abolishment of VED for a period of time, reduction of duty on diesel etc.
I'll leave you to read the above because we posted at almost the same time
 

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Here is an article that gives both sides of the coin. I personally don't care too much about cloths,bricks, cuddly toys and the like although it is all a huge part of what makes our economy. What I care about is the break down of the ability to provide food and essencials.

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I can only speak from experience, and what I am seeing right now (once the initial panic was over) is goods coming in as expected and going to the shops in a timely manner.

What we're struggling with is getting the manufacturers to keep up with certain lines that people have been hoarding, but that is not a haulage problem more a manufacturing one.

The RHA is doing its job it gets paid to do and that is getting the best for their members. They don't want to see haulage companies go bust partially because it will mean less money for them coming in.....
 

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I can only speak from experience, and what I am seeing right now (once the initial panic was over) is goods coming in as expected and going to the shops in a timely manner.

What we're struggling with is getting the manufacturers to keep up with certain lines that people have been hoarding, but that is not a haulage problem more a manufacturing one.

The RHA is doing its job it gets paid to do and that is getting the best for their members. They don't want to see haulage companies go bust partially because it will mean less money for them coming in.....
Lets see how things pan out over the next week or two and I hope that your optimism proves to be correct

* Col rushes off to stick bets on tonights geegees in America before its too late :)
 

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It's really brave to say that gambling industry will die with this situation. While there is somehting to bet on, casinos and sportsbooks will do the rest.
 

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From a UK perspective, short term I think there will be gains, a lot of people sitting round with nothing to do. If the lockdown continues much longer though, I think we will see smaller casinos fail. A LOT of people are on 80% wages, no money or Universal Credit, and while short terms they might have cash in the bank to tide them over, I think after a month of not working they will tighten belts and cut back on stuff like gambling. Plus there is already a loss of revenue from no sports betting.
 

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Once the powers at be reshape the economy and go to digital currency like they have been planning, online casinos will continue to strive. It may just take a few more months to implement.
 

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